Sympathetic Visage Killed My Guild Wars

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

umm wouldnt a warrior suck at farming these though? They have the crit defenses right?

Glad to know someone else is having puter problems >_>

sykoone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mystical Chaos

E/

My guild is trying to replicate this, and we've yet to crash, but we have gotten a crapload of numbers.

And his comp stats aren't as good as the OPs
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...erlc/gw012.jpg

CyberMesh0

CyberMesh0

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Charter Vanguard [CV]

N/Me

Hmm, are you running TexMod? I think I see the spirit circle on your screenshot. Try it without, and see what happens- you never know.

sykoone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mystical Chaos

E/

I think there's only one or two people in my guild that don't run it. As much work as we put into mods, none of it start guild wars without it. It shouldn't make a difference anyways, but if it does, then that would be one heck of a bonus.

placebo overdose

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberMesh0
Hmm, are you running TexMod? I think I see the spirit circle on your screenshot. Try it without, and see what happens- you never know.
the op has that tho so i dont think so

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem
umm wouldnt a warrior suck at farming these though? They have the crit defenses right?

Glad to know someone else is having puter problems >_>
Are you aware of what those -3's are?

Crit defenses cost energy. You put up your armor, you hit your visage, and after a second when their energy is drained you hit up with the mass attacks and they drop pretty quick.

Of course, that is, if they didn't crash the game.

TheGuildWarsPenguin

TheGuildWarsPenguin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Los Angeles, California

Picnic Pioneers

E/

lol, have someone cast Famine and then try.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Yeah... still think a tera tank with SV/AV (like the UW set up) would work just as well.

undeadgun

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

N/

need reverse the energy bar and health bar on those little buggers lol

TechnoSword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

International SuperStars

W/Mo

I tried making the size of the damamge icon or whatever smaller. I could see a ton of -3's pop up, it got a little laggy but didnt crash, however I was hit with a ton of litt -1 all the way to -5 and eventually died by the onslaught, werent sure how you were planning to take them out. I even used my armor the with -3 insignias and -3 absportion

EDIT: Dont know if the OP did it in normal mode, probably did, I tried in normal mode many 0's, but hardmode is another story,

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Posting to say holy SHIT it happened to me too. Verly strlange...

xDusT II

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Melbourne

It could have to do with the insane amounts of particles being produced from the visages....

Fear the purple haze of doom.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

this can't be exploited in pvp to overload someone elses client, or can it?

Amadei

Amadei

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Blinkie Ponie Armie

R/Me

Got nothing constructive to add, but those are some epic screenies.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Cool...going to give it a try too ^^

Yeah..... it crashed

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
this can't be exploited in pvp to overload someone elses client, or can it?
Only if you are able to bring 30+ fast hitting enemies to PvP...

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Sweet!
Kinda shows the state of GW if the thing to do is to crash GW!

But seriously - looking good!

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

When I first started playing Guild Wars, I wondered why I couldn't see everyone's damage and healing numbers.
In other games I've played it shows all that in grey.
I think now I know why.
I bet the devs know about this limitation and had to design around it.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Visages were used for farming Shiro'ken LONG ago. They didn't kill the skills then, they won't now.

Guildmaster Cain

Guildmaster Cain

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D]

Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]

Its possible that the problem isnt in the numbers at all, but rather in the trigger effect of SV. Try disabling every fancy screen effect in the graphics screen.

I wonder how my old Ettin Harvester build would work on them.

R/Me with Famine, Visages, Illusion of Weakness, Troll, Physical Resistence

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Pentium M 1.73 Ghz
Radeon X700

Did NOT crash.

This could be the reason for the OP's crash: AMD Athlon + Motherboard.
I think we can rule out ATI graphics cards as the reason, as it works with my mobile Radeon.
I just wonder why it happened to a Core 2 Duo, too. But at least it only froze and did not crash the system.


P.S.: Why do you kill baby raptors around xmas? Do they drop good stuff or just for Asura points?

blurmedia

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE [moko]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc
Pentium M 1.73 Ghz
Radeon X700

Did NOT crash.

This could be the reason for the OP's crash: AMD Athlon + Motherboard.
I think we can rule out ATI graphics cards as the reason, as it works with my mobile Radeon.
I just wonder why it happened to a Core 2 Duo, too. But at least it only froze and did not crash the system.


P.S.: Why do you kill baby raptors around xmas? Do they drop good stuff or just for Asura points?

Ele swords and heaps of crap golds for your wisdom title. In my experience they drop tons of dyes as well.

Roman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Illuminati

Mo/

Guys, remember some of us need to have BOTH visages up for this to happen, sykoone, you only had one up.

Also, i cant see how this bug would lead to a NERF of the visages, that just doesnt make any sense..

Blackhearted

Blackhearted

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ohio, usa

none

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc
Pentium M 1.73 Ghz
Radeon X700

Did NOT crash.

This could be the reason for the OP's crash: AMD Athlon + Motherboard.
I think we can rule out ATI graphics cards as the reason, as it works with my mobile Radeon.
I just wonder why it happened to a Core 2 Duo, too. But at least it only froze and did not crash the system.


P.S.: Why do you kill baby raptors around xmas? Do they drop good stuff or just for Asura points?
While i don't have a warrior to where-ever the spot is to try it myself since i don't play warrior much at all, i HIGHLY doubt it's an athlon only thing.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roman
Also, i cant see how this bug would lead to a NERF of the visages, that just doesnt make any sense..
Standard programing practice: if proper fix is not easy, and workaround is, guess what happens. And if workaround would be nerfing visages so that they wouldn't trigger THAT much ... yeah.

Thou, i think it would be easy fix, because sympthoms point to game not handling properly huge amount of things (fixed size undersized array that stores "particle" objects?), which means that as little as increasing one constant could help.

Roman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Illuminati

Mo/

Well, we can rule out the AMD Athlon + Motherboard as reason too, since i have a Gigabyte motherboard and an Intel CPU.. I dont think this is hardware related.

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

that is so great. Nice build by the way. Might try it out in other areas

tipiak

tipiak

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Hellsace

F*ck Yeah Ion Cannons [dBal]

W/

- try to set the graphics lower
- try to switch off after-processing graphics
- try to switch off interface : Ctrl+Shift+H or Alt+Shift+H, I can't remember

Otherwise, it could be an "WTH_too_much_info_GOREDENGINEGOREDENGINE
GOREDENGINEGOREDENGINE_lag_kill_myself_computer_sh utdown" thingy.

Master Knightfall

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2007

The OP's build is pretty bad anyways it has no healing skill, couldn't possibly work anywhere in HM without some form of healing skill.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Knightfall
The OP's build is pretty bad anyways it has no healing skill, couldn't possibly work anywhere in HM without some form of healing skill.
Hello clown and welcome to Guildwars. Raptors deal pure physical damage only. With the visages they are unable to use any skills so only deal the damage of their weapons. If you can reduce that damage significantly, giving you enough time to kill them before they kill you, you have a successful farm.

Also, wary stance will protect against all damage from the raptors should your HP start going down, but I'm sure the OP build could manage the raptors fine.

After all, look at how many hits he/she has taken in the OP's picture, and look at the red HP bar. It hasnt even taken any damage.

Wildi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

PvE is the Metagame

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roman
I've tried it as well with some monk build, quickly made just to tank them, and i got the same result: client crash without any errors... Result screens:

Both visages cast..
-
This one shows slowing down of client already.. and a strange blue glow around me. 1 second after this screenshot, my screen froze completely, only to be solved with control alt delete..
did it crash without texmod ?

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

Divide By Zero!

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildi
did it crash without texmod ?
same result yeah, i tried

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Knightfall
The OP's build is pretty bad anyways it has no healing skill, couldn't possibly work anywhere in HM without some form of healing skill.
did you happen to notice my full health in the screen


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Lagg

Lagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

Big fat nerf incoming!

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

I'm gonna be crazy now and test Visage + Mantra of Earth:

[skill]glyph of renewal[/skill][skill]sliver armor[/skill][skill]armor of earth[/skill][skill]stoneflesh aura[/skill][skill]stone striker[/skill][skill]mantra of earth[/skill][skill]sympathetic visage[/skill][skill]ancestor's visage[/skill]

-3 and +2 crazyness!

McMullen

McMullen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by xDusT II
It could have to do with the insane amounts of particles being produced from the visages....

Fear the purple haze of doom.
I think you could be onto something here, seeing as some people didn't crash..
Try lowering the graphics settings, in particular the shader quality.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
I'm gonna be crazy now and test Visage + Mantra of Earth:

[skill]glyph of renewal[/skill][skill]sliver armor[/skill][skill]armor of earth[/skill][skill]stoneflesh aura[/skill][skill]stone striker[/skill][skill]mantra of earth[/skill][skill]sympathetic visage[/skill][skill]ancestor's visage[/skill]

-3 and +2 crazyness!
LOL
but
anti interupt?

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Guys I didnt crash or slow down or lag or anything And that was with SV and Mantra of earth

Amd X2 4400+
ASUS A8R32-MVP Deluxe
2 gig ram
ATI X1900 xtx



Did I aggro enough? I dont last long enough to get anymore lol. I only did it to test if it would crash or not. The interupts pwned me yea.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
Guys I didnt crash or slow down or lag or anything And that was with SV and Mantra of earth

Amd X2 4400+
ASUS A8R32-MVP Deluxe
2 gig ram
ATI X1900 xtx



Did I aggro enough? I dont last long enough to get anymore lol. I only did it to test if it would crash or not. The interupts pwned me yea.
no you didnt, you need to agro all of the raptors in the cave (i see your radar)

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Yes thats what I thought. Maybe other people that didnt crash didnt aggro all of them too. I need to find somewhere without interupts to test this build though.

BTW why does guru show the kinetic armor picture for armor of earth? Crazy.

Sleeper Service

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
Yes thats what I thought. Maybe other people that didnt crash didnt aggro all of them too. I need to find somewhere without interupts to test this build though.

BTW why does guru show the kinetic armor picture for armor of earth? Crazy.
can you not drop silver armour in place of some anti interupt for that area? (seeing as the point is not to kill the mobs anyways and if you manage to pull off both visages....)