When I first hit the Asuran territory a few days after the release of GW:EN I found it kind of interesting that they had such things as machines running certain functions of their society and that they even had robots running around in certain areas.
So here's my question; do you think they're have technology in GW2 and what do you think of the idea of having tech in GW.
Personally I think it'd be kinda cool, but that may just be me.
EDIT: Okay, some people think by 'technology' I mean sci-fi, Guild Wars meets Star Wars or something. I don't mean that exactly, just something a little more sublte. People keep sayings like "Well, what's a gun to magic?" Well, you can turn that around and say "What's a sword to a huge fire ball?"
Well, the sword has it's advantages and disadvantages, but I think we can trust Anet to, if they add just a subtle mix of technology into the game, to make it fair.
PS. I do NOT mean laser guns. That would ruin the game, 100%.
Technology in Guild Wars 2?
Baraden
xReLx
/sigh
What is this, I don't even?
What is this, I don't even?
Operative 14
It would be nice to see all the societies advance not only in magical terms, but technological terms as well.
It would seem a bit odd if after 250 years of warefare that someone wouldn't have developed a crossbow, or, dare I say, a musket.
And even for more peaceful means, it would be nice if there were more general advancements for the citizens.... Such as enclosed buildings with roofs to keep out the rain
It would seem a bit odd if after 250 years of warefare that someone wouldn't have developed a crossbow, or, dare I say, a musket.
And even for more peaceful means, it would be nice if there were more general advancements for the citizens.... Such as enclosed buildings with roofs to keep out the rain
xhappy feetx
only if limited to weapons and general living, no guns or electricity...
if that happens..
/fail..
if that happens..
/fail..
1 up and 2 down
I think in the time inbetween GW and GW2 the creatures will have two paths to take to advance themselves. One being advancement in magic and the other being advancement in technology. I am guessing that they are going to choose magic. Because of this the technology will probably be lacking and magic will have become either stronger or will have more uses.
Harrier's haste
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only if limited to weapons and general living, no guns or electricity...
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Then how about buy HellGate London? It can be both played as an RPG and an FPS.
I don't believe that GW should get mixed up with the FPS, it's an online RPG and it should stay its grounds.(look at WoW).
Onarik Amrak
I'd rather not see guns, but crossbows make sense. They're a miniaturization of bolt throwers (ballistas).
Since the Dwarves already have ballistas, it's only natural to miniaturize the technology.
Since the Dwarves already have ballistas, it's only natural to miniaturize the technology.
Kityn
Any tech in GW2 would most likely be magic in origin. Muskets will be taken out of the equation, since the dwarves who created blackpowder no longer exist as a race.
Fril Estelin
It should not be too close to the universe of games like Tabula Rasa. Each universe should try not to copy the idea of others and even distance itself from it. The Asura Golem techno was really cool and nice, but it should be kept rare and expensive so as to highlight the "fantasy" spirit of GW. And, of course, as people said before, tied to magic. (just imagine the mess if you start thinking of air elementalists are electricians!)
Many attempts at creating multiverses have failed (Michael Morcook's was pretty good but not as diverse as what we're discussing here), because many people like things to be "clear" and "separate". Fried mars bars or strawbery cod are only tasty to a very few!
Many attempts at creating multiverses have failed (Michael Morcook's was pretty good but not as diverse as what we're discussing here), because many people like things to be "clear" and "separate". Fried mars bars or strawbery cod are only tasty to a very few!
Theo Godscythe
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Any tech in GW2 would most likely be magic in origin. Muskets will be taken out of the equation, since the dwarves who created blackpowder no longer exist as a race.
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Onarik Amrak
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O RLY then who do you suppose then that we will be able to play them as a race in GW2.
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But if I understand you correctly: No, Dwarves will not be playable.
Mr. G
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i think thats supposed to mean "How will we play as dwarfs then?"
-Minor spoiler-
if so, dwarfs die pretty dam soon...just complete GW:EN
Tatile
I don't see technology (as in guns and what not) happening very soon for a rather simple reason: there's magic. Why would a society that can call upon holy wrath and lighting to fall from the sky feel the need, or the inspiration for that matter, to design such things? Granted there is gunpowder in one form or another, but I think the current ability to use magic will trump most other things.
Konrow
500 or is it 250 year difference? Yea there has to be at least something more advanced developed. light bulbs at least :P
Big_Daddy
but why, with magic doing almost all things possible, do you need technology?
Edit: Ooops, didn't see Tatile post :S I guess I have to say that I second his opinion.
Edit: Ooops, didn't see Tatile post :S I guess I have to say that I second his opinion.
Baraden
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but why, with magic doing almost all things possible, do you need technology?
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ensoriki
Oh god I hope not
Technology creates guns, Guns are shit.
Keep GW awesome.
Also....have you not played Tales of Symphonia or phantasia
Magitechnology is bad for you!
Technology creates guns, Guns are shit.
Keep GW awesome.
Also....have you not played Tales of Symphonia or phantasia
Magitechnology is bad for you!
Fril Estelin
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I don't see technology (as in guns and what not) happening very soon for a rather simple reason: there's magic. Why would a society that can call upon holy wrath and lighting to fall from the sky feel the need, or the inspiration for that matter, to design such things? Granted there is gunpowder in one form or another, but I think the current ability to use magic will trump most other things.
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.The problem is industrialisation. As long as there aren't big societies, big urban cities and "Taylor", it should be ok
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Fril Estelin
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Technology creates guns, Guns are shit.
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.The gun is not the problem, it's the hand that uses it, in other words: humans.
I liked very much Anet's take on techno via the Asura. The concept art (see this thread) for EotN and the unborn Utopia shows the huge possibilities. Look at the chronomancer
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unienaule
Of course we're going to need guns. There has to be something decent to do with the crafting system, right?
The concept of the chronomancer was for Utopia, not GW:EN.
The concept of the chronomancer was for Utopia, not GW:EN.
ensoriki
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Technology is semantically void. A gun can be used to protect people (not in the sense of the USA first amendment, that I personally don't like but let's not flame this thread!) or to improve hunting. Guns are just overpowerd version of your axe or bow. So as long as there aren't armies in GW2, it's not worth than UB
.The gun is not the problem, it's the hand that uses it, in other words: humans. I liked very much Anet's take on techno via the Asura. The concept art (see this thread) for EotN and the unborn shows the possibilities. Look at the chronomancer . |
Chronomancer coukd've gone so wrong or so right.
if chronomancer had some skill like Grand Combat Haste, and it gave the entire party 33% attack speed and recharge
Or
Grand Magi Haste...that works off magic.
...that would be so wrong.
Fril Estelin
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Gun's can't do anything but kill, and if you try to use them for anything else, theres something that does it better.
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The technology is NOT the problem, it's the human. Same problem on the net, technologies only over-power people, but the bad guys use pretty old tricks (social engineering). Tricks that have nothing to do with techno, but all to do with how human works.
We're going a bit off-topic here. Let's discuss Golems
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Tyla
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Oh god I hope not
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Fril Estelin
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i prefere throwing 30ft fireballs at people and burning them down to the ground than using guns
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Tyla
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Do you even think about global warming? I should /report you to the guys in Bali!
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...then can i use lightning bolts?
Pleikki
mm Fire balls. Reminds me.. Diablo :S Darn Guns sucks ^^ its nicer have magican and melee..
Limu Tolkki
If you have such thing as golems now, would we have telephones after 250 years. And the new classes would be sniper, medic and assault? Not really, i like the idea that theres some technology, probably made by asuras (gnomes in wow ). But i also think that races of tyria dont really need technology as they have magic...
). But i also think that races of tyria dont really need technology as they have magic...
Tyla
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mm Fire balls. Reminds me.. Diablo :S Darn Guns sucks ^^ its nicer have magican and melee..
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Fril Estelin
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If you have such thing as golems now, would we have telephones after 250 years.
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Actually the dichotomy technology/magic is funny, because (as Arthur C. Clarke, a famous scifi author, said, see wikipedia for full details) in the end techno becomes so complicated that it is indistinguishable from magic. Many futuristic universes have "technomages" for a good reason
.(woohoo we're going into the philosophy stratosphere
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Tatile
The Asura could develop an obscure mixture of Golemnacy, primitive tech and magic to create a new type of technology, such as magically imbued communication devices we'd know as radio-based headsets. Whether they'd share that technology is debatable.
Oh, and Big_Daddy, I'm female. Thought I'd let you know.
Oh, and Big_Daddy, I'm female. Thought I'd let you know.
Baraden
Well, it's not that I mean space ships and make another RF online or seomthing I just meant a little bit more... subtle than that. Little things here and there hinting at technology (things looking like, for example, the Clockwork Scythe) and maybe even guns, but I wasn't even thinking advanced guns.
Maybe to the point where you have them just wielding the very simplist of guns, like a style of guns that doesn't even look like the guns today. I don't know if you've seen it (I've had the misfortune to watch it twice) but there is a gay little anime movie called Castle in the Sky and in there they have a nice mix between not really magic, per say, but a fantasy style land and technology.
So not to make it out right "Star Trek meets Guild Wars" but just a subtle show of tech.
Maybe to the point where you have them just wielding the very simplist of guns, like a style of guns that doesn't even look like the guns today. I don't know if you've seen it (I've had the misfortune to watch it twice) but there is a gay little anime movie called Castle in the Sky and in there they have a nice mix between not really magic, per say, but a fantasy style land and technology.
So not to make it out right "Star Trek meets Guild Wars" but just a subtle show of tech.
Buster
I don't know about guns, this isn't a sci-fi game. Technology would come in the form of golems maybe or teleportation.
ensoriki
Only thing Modern I really want in this game
Is Clothing.
Because having your Charr race character in Punk clothes screams lol.
Is Clothing.
Because having your Charr race character in Punk clothes screams lol.
You can't see me
/Not Signed.
Technology stayed nearly the same for over 400 years of human society. 250 is nothing to cry about.
As for seeing guns/modern clothing in GW2, that would halt me from buying it.
Technology stayed nearly the same for over 400 years of human society. 250 is nothing to cry about.
As for seeing guns/modern clothing in GW2, that would halt me from buying it.
Drake Eleric
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Bryant Again
No steampunk in my GW, please.
captain_carter
I would think there would be a way to explain away the lack of technological development in the dwindling of each race(especially humans) to the point of fighting for survival of the species as I believe is sort of what is meant to happen. Perhaps noone had time to develop new technoloy because they were too busy running around fighting and hiding etc.
Of course you could take the opposite argument and say war generally boosts technological development...
I also thnik it would be entirely possible that technology as we condsider in our real world would not develop in a world that had magic.
If you could all conjure flame in the palm of your hand, why would any of you invent a match?
Of course you could take the opposite argument and say war generally boosts technological development...
I also thnik it would be entirely possible that technology as we condsider in our real world would not develop in a world that had magic.
If you could all conjure flame in the palm of your hand, why would any of you invent a match?
Jackita
Primitive Guns are nice, ill love a ranger with an "asura aloe-seed launcher" gun 
Shanaeri Rynale
There is already advanced technology in GW, after all how else could mesmer enchanter armor stay intact and not burn away when hit by searing flames or a Rodgorts invocation.
There is already gunpowder, so a form of cannon is a logical development(and only one small step away). Ofc the designers did'nt want guns of any sort so they made the GW races forget to be able to put 2 and 2.
Gw2 tech I think will be at the same level as now. for the reason stated a couple of posts above.
There is already gunpowder, so a form of cannon is a logical development(and only one small step away). Ofc the designers did'nt want guns of any sort so they made the GW races forget to be able to put 2 and 2.
Gw2 tech I think will be at the same level as now. for the reason stated a couple of posts above.
Mac Sidewinder
The more basic the better to me. I thought the Asura's technology was alright in that it wasn't too far advanced (combining magic with basic humaniod structures). I would rather see blades and magic like it already is, maybe with more magic lines than we have now.
Some things sound good then really suck when put into practice. One of the things I hate are the teleporters in Props desert. Why go through that everytime you want to jump from point A to point B. I usually just run around them. And I think the same thing would happen if you try to incorporate too much technology into the game. Things would become tedious eventually.
Don't even get me started on guns in GW2. That would blow it for me. If I wanted that type of weapon game I would play Battlefield.
K.I.S.S
Keep it simple stupid.
Some things sound good then really suck when put into practice. One of the things I hate are the teleporters in Props desert. Why go through that everytime you want to jump from point A to point B. I usually just run around them. And I think the same thing would happen if you try to incorporate too much technology into the game. Things would become tedious eventually.
Don't even get me started on guns in GW2. That would blow it for me. If I wanted that type of weapon game I would play Battlefield.
K.I.S.S
Keep it simple stupid.