A Litany of Comparison: GW and World of Warcraft

GW vs WoW is like AB battles...

boring and involving tons of idiots?

We have a winner!

Wow, I'm surprise it took THIS LONG for someone to necro this thread.

It was an 'Ascalonian' squire who did the necroing, good sir!

And by the way Zinger, Grades+Women+PS3 > GW/WoW

It's Aliiiiive !!



Welcome to the Internet.

/ontopic (ish) About to hit 70 in WoW. Just in time to quit and play Age of Conan...

Heh...I have a 43 BE Hunter on the Uther server and I love it. Names Tyrenus if you feel like looking him up on armory. I hope to get him to 50(I have a goal every 10 levels) in a month or less(I'm possibly the WORST grinder ever!)

why can't this thread just die?

I know it's going to look like blasphemy (don't impale me mods!) but I'll res this thread for Wetley, who wanted to discuss WoW-vs-GW. Here it is, 25 pages for you to read! Almost everything has been said.

Leave it to Fril....

gw has way better graphics then wow, good pvp but same repetitive maps and style which is boring, shit pve and boring atmosphere( instanced areas)

wow has a more fun aspect compared to gw and pve totally owns gw by millions and the pvp is better in some ways

close gw vs wow there just to far aprt with manythings and gw wins hands down for rating wise

What rating? Who's the judge? You? Me? Some random critics #458? God?

Please.

Yeesh, this thread is like the Spanish Inquisition, because I didn't expect it.

WoW has received better ratings from all reviewers than all the GW expansions. What are you talking about?

(But I will add that WoW has been spiraling downward since the OP, due to the overemphasis on Arenas.)

These are what I found on mmorpg.com:

Guild Wars - Overall Ratings: 8.2:
Graphics - 9.3
Fun - 8.1
Sound - 8.5
Community - 7.3
Role-Playing - 7.1
Performance/Lag - 8.9
Value - 8.6
Service - 8.1
Based on 5330 total votes. Login if you wish to review this game.

Member Comments
HollyWeber(posted Wed Apr 16 2008)
I love Guild Wars. My favorite part is the graphics. They're by far the most beautiful graphics I've seen in any game I've played. reddo(posted Tue Apr 08 2008)
Great game, I loved how there are events every other weekend. Lag is only upon entering towns and full outposts chucky233(posted Sat Mar 15 2008)
Really good Hateorade(posted Sat Mar 15 2008)
Greatest game ever thats not Pay-to-play Erkib(posted Thu Mar 06 2008)
One of the worlds most perfectly done Games ever.Perfect almost in every angle.suitable for any MMORPG fan.

Guild Wars Factions - Overall Ratings: 8.3:
Graphics - 8.9
Fun - 8.3
Sound - 8.4
Community - 7.7
Role-Playing - 7.4
Performance/Lag - 8.5
Value - 8.5
Service - 8.2
Based on 847 total votes. Login if you wish to review this game.

Member Comments
Skranken(posted Thu Apr 17 2008)
I do own all expansions, and have a few maxlevels.. I dont regret playing this game, but I regret spending so much money on it. Regard it as a single player game. Few armors, no decent economy and invisible walls that will block your path every time you want to tale a shortcut. Erkib(posted Sun Mar 09 2008)
great great great Gundahar(posted Mon Dec 24 2007)
This game is a huge hit for me. I personally hate grinding and being forced to PVE to build your character for PVP. The mere fact that you can just PVP without worrying about killing x amount of NPC's and instead kill X amount of REAL PEOPLE makes this game a huge hit for me!

Guild Wars Nightfall - Overall Ratings: 8.2:
Graphics - 8.9
Fun - 8.3
Sound - 8.4
Community - 7.5
Role-Playing - 7.6
Performance/Lag - 8.6
Value - 8.5
Service - 8.0
Based on 602 total votes. Login if you wish to review this game.

Member Comments
Thomethy(posted Sun Mar 30 2008)
I played this game and I loved it at first. Now I dunno like it this much anymore. Graphics are sure cool and gameplay is also nice but I like games in which u have to lvl. The max lvl in this game and after that u need a good party or you are dead and this is nothing for me. Erkib(posted Fri Mar 07 2008)
good game but its a pathetic expansion to the GW and factions this game was a mistake and Im dissapointed RaidTheSpade(posted Tue Jan 22 2008)
Nightfall probably has the best storyline of all the GW games. Plus the game doesn't cost monthly, so why not play it? boommer99(posted Mon Jan 21 2008)

World of Warcraft - Overall Ratings: 8.1:
Graphics - 8.7
Fun - 8.5
Sound - 8.8
Community - 7.3
Role-Playing - 7.5
Performance/Lag - 8.1
Value - 8.3
Service - 7.5
Based on 8367 total votes. Login if you wish to review this game.

Member Comments
Flaepru(posted Fri Apr 18 2008)
Only problems is when it come to fun and community. Sometimes you'll feel alone and just walking on an empty world. But the quests and role playing are awesome. ZkilfinG(posted Fri Apr 18 2008)
Lack of meaningful end-game killed WoW. keyfoot(posted Wed Apr 16

mmorpg.com, most popular chart( Today Week 1 Month 6 Months Year):

No entry for GW. None at all. WoW is there everywhere.

mmorpg.com, top ratings:

LOTRO, EVE, EQ2, then GW:F, then some more random mmos.

Make of it whatever you want.

Thread: Why have i been awakened from my eternal slumber?

WoW is better, but my heart goes to GW because I can accomplish things faster. Getting to 70 is a bitch. Once I get level 40, there's little to no incentive to go farther. But when I get to 20 on Guild Wars, there's still plenty of crap to do.
At 70, it's raid, instance, or nothing.

For the record I play and enjoy both.

Well, I know that most game reviewers favor WoW over GW (and that therangereminem's message saying "gw wins hand-down rating wise" is just plain wrong.). But my point is, it doesn't matter what people think about the game you play. If you enjoy it, that's enough.

I couldn't afford WoW back in 2004. I discovered GW and enjoyed it. I didn't care (and wouldn't have cared now) about what other people say about WoW in comparison to GW (or just WoW in general). I knew most people like it for a reason. I had my own reason why I wasn't playing it. The game (GW) has changed since then and one day I couldn't stand it anymore and tried to find some other games to play. I decided to cut off some of my expense so that I can afford WoW. Now I'm enjoying it and, as before, I couldn't care less about what other people think.

I respect other people's opinions. But to say "this game is better, you're stupid if you're playing something else" is just wrong and unfair. People play what they like. You have no right in the world to judge them.

Yay for reasonable person.

Most people aren't thou, you might think that they base their self-worth on game they play. And will react then someone has unpleasant points about "their" game. Usually with first-strike tactics.

You loose all rationality when you go down the road "I (play GW, use linux, listen to ipod) hence i am awesome person.". You just cant argue with someone who attempts to maintain his personal integrity by maintaining integrity of things he likes.

Hell, some people WILL quit game when it becomes mainstream for some unpopular game, and some people will only enjoy game they know that millions play too.

Objective: WoW has a bigger world, more quests, more people playing, more items, a more interactive environment, more PvP options, more character slots, more classes, more races....

Subjective: ...and Blizzard managed to do exactly nothing with all of it.

WoW irritates me because I like the game, and I think it's better than Guild Wars in almost every way. There's much more item customization, crafting is a joke in GW compared to WoW, there's more to do in Azeroth, PvP is much more accessible to less... "devoted" players. But, man, once I have to club my 500th geriatric gorilla to collect a gizzard to give to some guy who will then ask me to go kill another thousand of the same ****ing thing to collect a different part of it I just want to stab someone on the dev team in the eye with a pencil.

They built an awesome engine, now they just need to attach a game to it somehow....

Guild Wars would probably be rated considerably higher if they merged the chapters under one title for the purpose of ratings.

Agreed. It's nice to see someone who likes WoW better without having to be a fanboy about it.

I think the same way. WoW is better, but I play GW more.

Neither of the 2 games are better, as I see it. WoW is quite different, and there is no assuredness that GW players will like WoW. I enjoy playing both games, and I'm sick of taking flak in GW (because this doesn't happen to me in WoW) for liking WoW. Overall, the WoW community is more friendly and less politcally correct, but then the games are very different. WoW has been around slightly longer than GW afaik, and has alot more players (they celebrated 10 million accounts recently).

But then GW has a good community, nice players for the most part, it's a totally different style of game and still enjoyable.

Both have their good sides.

I was amazed when I looked at the most professional work on MMO statistics:
http://www.mmogchart.com/
No mention of GW and Anet, nothing at all. And then I saw that:
http://www.mmogchart.com/faq/

From the guy's profile:

Professional? How is this guy not just somebody with a website? The only real position he even lists has extra description that implies he may have only held that position due to some sort of external circumstance (e.g.: maybe he was the only employee...)

By professional, he probably was referring to the quality/credibility of his work rather than where he's employed. I've known that site for a long time now, and it's fairly accurate.

I liked wow's dungeons also. I've played both and was able to only get to 2 dungeons in GW one was cause it was a primary. The real problem? there's no global LFG for dungeons and such that wow has, where you can select from a list and advertise. I've been wanting to try the other dungeons but when I get to the towns there's like no one even looking for a team.

Honestly, I don't understand how they aren't rated higher. I mean come on, they passed the 5 million unit mark a while ago. that's gotta count for something. It just seems like all the "Top 10 MMORPG" lists forget? ignore? Guild Wars. That's all IMO, of course.

To OP: pretty good thread, well written and very deep, but i do disagree on a few things. other than that, great job

There is no need to ashame all those naive WoW players that keep paying for that... thing.

I tried the WoW on a free trial and wasn't impressed. I prefer the look of GW's characters to WoW's toons. I prefer GW's skills to WoW's system of (pretty much) the same skill over and over, just at a more powerful level. GW's skills are more diverse, I think.

I don't know... I came from Morrowind and Oblivion, and wanted to try an on-line RPG, and GW got me hooked (8 characters - no Monk, no Warrior - yet). I haven't bought GW:EN because, aside from the extra heroes and some armor, I don't like the system they've introduced in it. (It does away with professions, basically, and it's all based on rank.) I like the pace of GW vs. WoW, but do wish they would allow H&H in all areas of the PvE game and not force us to PUG. (PUG = :shudder

My favorite so far: my modded Morrowind, tbh. For the RP aspect of a RPG, that is.

One last note: I can't see paying $10+ every month to play the same game. That was another bonus to GW over WoW or any other MMORPG. EVE on-line? Is it worth $180/year?? I don't think so. No on-line RPG should charge more than $5/month as a subscription. I might spend $120 a year on a couple of games, but that gives me a set of choices, some variety. $120 to play the same game - and more if they come out with an "expansion"? No thank you.

There's no motivation to do them - or anything else in Guild Wars.

WoW gives you that fake sense of accomplishment for wasting hours on end doing something in front of your computer. Guild Wars, however, by virtue of the fact that almost nothing that drops is worth anything, only leaves you feeling like you wasted your time when you spend an hour grinding through a dungeon only to get a Req 13 14^50 gold at the end.

That's one thing that's annoyed me about Guild Wars for awhile now. The amount of time invested in doing things never pays off anymore, so if you don't feel like doing something for the sake of doing it (which for those of us who've gone through all the storylines is most things), there's no motivation to do it. You race up to level 20, hit the cap, finish the storyline, save enough money for an elite armor and some nifty looking perfect weapons... and then nothing's left.

I used to think that way, but, frankly, with all the extra things you get with WoW over Guild Wars or single player games, I think it's worth it. There's absolutely no contest between the sheer number of things you can do in Guild Wars and what you can do in other games like WoW, Everquest, LOTRO, Eve, etc. Guild Wars is a single pay game like a single player game... but it really, REALLY shows sometimes and feels an awful lot like a single player game with a really fancy 3D avatar chat system.

Honestly, I think if it weren't for the innovation in combat and the decent Prophecies storyline, I'd have been very disappointed in Guild Wars when I first got it.

So reading this post, I came to a conclusion. GW2, with a presistant world and a trade system, and a higher level cap.... IS GONNA BE SO FREAKING AWESOME!

The problem with wow is that it is the perpetual carrot on a stick system, it never ends, yes it gives you something to do but after a while the carrot is not worth it anymore, especially when the new expansion comes out and your carrot is worthless.

The problem with GW is that they give you the carrot right off the bat, but in Anets defense this is how they designed the game.

IMO, WoW is severely outdated at this point, everything about it is clunky, from the interface to the guild and character system they have in place all the way to the game play itself and the graphics. With new games coming out (GW 2 included) I think this will become more and more evident. The only reason they keep getting new players right now is because no one has come out with anything decent since guild wars and GW players are bored and moving over.

FTFY

I don't like it either, personally, but let's not kid ourselves. Sitting in front of a computer, stained with Cheetohs and high on Mountain Dew, running the same raid for the fiftieth time to get a piece of equipment that will prepare you to run the next raid fifty times is, apparently, what the majority wants.

The majority also wants American Idol, more Rush Hour sequels, and new Fallout Boy albums, so you can kind of see the pattern here regarding majority opinions....

Different strokes for different folks. I think I've said that over five trillion times now.

Fril said "most professional work on MMO statistics". He didn't state that he was a "professional".

(Glad the guy agrees with me in GW not being an MMO, though).

I like to look at this way regarding a lot of things: I'll respect your right to entertain yourself in any way you want, but I don't have to respect the fact that you're doing it.

I mean... I think if people want to watch Jackass: The Movie, that's their prerogative, but I'm still going to think poorly of them for doing it.

You're going to think poorly of people who play a particular game? If anything, it should be the motivations of playing it that you should frown upon, but that doesn't apply only to WoW.

No, but I do think poorly of some of the people who play these games. Any way you slice it, sitting at your computer for 10 hours a day grinding away at raids, wrecking your marriage, and ignoring your family isn't respectable, and I won't respect those people.

The rest of the players who just play for fun now and then? I couldn't possibly care less about them one way or another since I don't know them.

Yay for thread res.
You could of just gave him the URL or told him to search for this specific thread, couldn't you?

Anyway, already said, it's not reviews, or whatever people say, if you like a game, you like a game.
It's all about your decisions in the end.