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Originally Posted by Pyro maniac
only if they would support no-CC users ..
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Pre-paid cards
Debit cards
Direct debit
What if GW2 went to a fee?
Malice Black
Pre-paid cards
Debit cards
Direct debit
Tyla
I would still pay, GW RULZ ALL
HayesA
If Area Net switches to a fee-based system, I simply will not be playing. It's why i'm not playing World of Warcraft. I like to pay 40-50 dollars for a game, and have the option to play it as much as I bloody well want to play at no extra cost to me. (Internet is besides the point because it has more then 1 use. I don't just use the cable broadband access that I pay for just for gaming.) If they start charging even $5/month for access, I will stop playing.
I perfer the system to now. I honestly don't care about balencing because I don't really play PVP. It's simply not my bag, so to speak. I simply do not perfer player versus player. I perfer that PVP is kept 100% seperate from PVE. But this is my opinion, and I won't go on from here. I don't want to start a row about it.
I really enjoy Guild Wars as it is RIGHT NOW. I loved GWEN, and Nightfall, and even Factions just a little bit. I cant really see why folks don't enjoy either Nightfall, or GWEN. More story, more missions, lots of new locals, attractive player skins/models... etc etc etc. I am of the group that thought the inscription system was a rather fantastic add-on. Gaile: You may pass this statement on as you please: Anet, I think you're doing a top notch job. Keep it up!
I would really perfer that Anet did NOT switch to a monthly payment system.
I perfer the system to now. I honestly don't care about balencing because I don't really play PVP. It's simply not my bag, so to speak. I simply do not perfer player versus player. I perfer that PVP is kept 100% seperate from PVE. But this is my opinion, and I won't go on from here. I don't want to start a row about it.
I really enjoy Guild Wars as it is RIGHT NOW. I loved GWEN, and Nightfall, and even Factions just a little bit. I cant really see why folks don't enjoy either Nightfall, or GWEN. More story, more missions, lots of new locals, attractive player skins/models... etc etc etc. I am of the group that thought the inscription system was a rather fantastic add-on. Gaile: You may pass this statement on as you please: Anet, I think you're doing a top notch job. Keep it up!
I would really perfer that Anet did NOT switch to a monthly payment system.
cellardweller
Guildwars 1 filled two niches: "the free mmo" and "the skill over time mmo". As the game has evolved anet have realised that there are more people in the first niche and catered to them at the expense of the second. If adding fees would seperate the two groups and allow for a pure grindless mmo to exist then I would be all for it.
Diddy bow
If there was a fee, its another game on the shelf for me. No more reason to get it over any other game 
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I really doubt ill ever get a game thats designed to be addictive rather than fun.
.I really doubt ill ever get a game thats designed to be addictive rather than fun.
arcanemacabre
Hell no. I would say yes, if it were worth a monthly fee, but I have yet to see any online game worth a monthly fee, so I'm assuming it doesn't exist. Also, monthly fees have the undesirable effect of making people feel obligated to play as much as possible (to make it worth it); me included. I like feeling like there is a game for me to play whenever I feel like it, without feeling like I have to to get my money's worth.
Besides, Anet have said time and time again that there will be no monthly fees - ever. If that changed, talk about a breach of trust... they would lose so many players that GW2 would end up the way of Auto Assault. At least that is one surefire way to destroy the franchise.
Besides, Anet have said time and time again that there will be no monthly fees - ever. If that changed, talk about a breach of trust... they would lose so many players that GW2 would end up the way of Auto Assault. At least that is one surefire way to destroy the franchise.
Oofus
Wouldn't matter to me one way or the other, have no intention of buying GW2.
But to answer the question in the spirit in which it was intended; no, I do not, and will not ever, pay monthly fees to play a game that I already paid for. Pay 50 bucks for a game, then pay every month for the "privilege" of being allowed to continue playing it? For what... server maintenance? No thanks. Server maintenance costs next to nothing, and it certainly does not cost millions upon millions of dollars a year, which is what these companies make off these monthly fees. Sell me your game and let me play it, don't sell me your game then extort more money from me every month so that I can play it.
But to answer the question in the spirit in which it was intended; no, I do not, and will not ever, pay monthly fees to play a game that I already paid for. Pay 50 bucks for a game, then pay every month for the "privilege" of being allowed to continue playing it? For what... server maintenance? No thanks. Server maintenance costs next to nothing, and it certainly does not cost millions upon millions of dollars a year, which is what these companies make off these monthly fees. Sell me your game and let me play it, don't sell me your game then extort more money from me every month so that I can play it.
WinterSnowblind
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Wouldn't matter to me one way or the other, have no intention of buying GW2.
But to answer the question in the spirit in which it was intended; no, I do not, and will not ever, pay monthly fees to play a game that I already paid for. Pay 50 bucks for a game, then pay every month for the "privilege" of being allowed to continue playing it? For what... server maintenance? No thanks. Server maintenance costs next to nothing, and it certainly does not cost millions upon millions of dollars a year, which is what these companies make off these monthly fees. Sell me your game and let me play it, don't sell me your game then extort more money from me every month so that I can play it. |
But don't get me wrong, I much prefer the GW method, even if I end up paying just as much as I would for a subscription based MMO, at least I'm only paying for the content I'm actually playing, instead of paying for everything constantly, even when I'm not currently playing.
Fortunately, most developers are starting to realise that they can't charge monthly for games like this. Nobody is going to pay for multiple subscriptions to different games, and no one is ever going to be able to compete with WoW (the possible exception being Bioware with Knights of the Old Republic III.. if it's true).
GD Defender
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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
What if GW2 went to a fee?
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On the note of skill balance, IIRC Anet has already stated they're reducing skill count significantly for easier balancing.
Moral55
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Originally Posted by Malice Black
lol it's funny how everyone raves about GW, but won't back their comments with cash.
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Hexum
I don't pay to play any game online. My internet fee is already enough. So if they went to PTP I wouldn't play GW anymore.
Turtle222
No it won't, as there won't be enough people playing to recognise its flaws
DarkNecrid
What if World of Warcraft wasn't the #1 most subscribed to MMORPG.....
Emik
I already have a subscription for EVE Online.
Still the best MMO out there :P
I'll stick to that one should GW2 have a fee system.
Still the best MMO out there :P
I'll stick to that one should GW2 have a fee system.
You can't see me
I'd pay the fee if the content was worth it. Nothing more to say.
toon-a-loon
If Anet made GW2 a few of 5-1 dallors. I wouldn't complain at all. It would modivate them enough to add more content. 1 dollar per person a month is 1 million more than GW1. That is still really cheap. 5 dollars a month is still really cheap to. 5 dollars a month adds up to 60 dollars a year. That isn't much.
bart
I think that Anet will do what HGL is doing whereby the game is free but you can pay for more content (eg high end dungeons, ability to open up a stall to sell items in-game, more options, updates etc). The question now is will you pay to access these "options"?
Legion Magnus
I do not and will not pay a monthly fee, especially for something I've already paid for. ANet could simply have said here's what you paid for and walked away, but they know that if they want to continue selling units and remain viable they need to keep adding content/improving the product, otherwise the Prophecies towns would already be ghost towns (although nearly there as it is). They also want differentiation from competitors like WoW.
Companies charge a monthly fee because they can. They can because people accept it (of course, it also helps if Daddy is paying the monthly fee). Business models change based on what companies feel they can get away with. I remember years ago when cable TV was new. Its attractive selling points were that there were no commercials guaranteed, and you generally got a better signal and more channels for a small monthly fee. Times have changed. Better content for sure, but prices are spiraling out of control, and commercial breaks are getting longer and longer. Plus we now have 'bugs' to attempt to ignore DURING content. And they get more and more obnoxious all the time.
Let's keep it simple, pay a one-time fee, and not help companies drive us to such ends.
Companies charge a monthly fee because they can. They can because people accept it (of course, it also helps if Daddy is paying the monthly fee). Business models change based on what companies feel they can get away with. I remember years ago when cable TV was new. Its attractive selling points were that there were no commercials guaranteed, and you generally got a better signal and more channels for a small monthly fee. Times have changed. Better content for sure, but prices are spiraling out of control, and commercial breaks are getting longer and longer. Plus we now have 'bugs' to attempt to ignore DURING content. And they get more and more obnoxious all the time.
Let's keep it simple, pay a one-time fee, and not help companies drive us to such ends.
chowmein69
if it does i wont buy it.
Redfeather1975
Guild Wars wasn't supposed to be big enough and last long enough to warrant subscription fees.
Some people wouldn't stop playing and complained there was nothing left to do, so some optional grindage was added, but Guild Wars still is just the size of your average single player game, except you can play with others online.
If they added a fee, they'd have to draw out content to take much longer. If they did that, I wouldn't play it. I've played DAOC, EQ2 and WoW.
They aren't magical, they get broing too.
After I got bored with them, it felt like a huge waste of time when I think back on it.
No more of that for me. I had my fill.
Some people wouldn't stop playing and complained there was nothing left to do, so some optional grindage was added, but Guild Wars still is just the size of your average single player game, except you can play with others online.
If they added a fee, they'd have to draw out content to take much longer. If they did that, I wouldn't play it. I've played DAOC, EQ2 and WoW.
They aren't magical, they get broing too.
After I got bored with them, it felt like a huge waste of time when I think back on it.
No more of that for me. I had my fill.
Leslie
I agree that I don't want to see a fee in GW2, no kind of it. One of the main reasons GW's is so great to begin with is you get a real sense of ownership; you pay for it, you can use it if and when you so please without having to worry about "getting the most of your subscriptions worth" or feeling like you're leasing content.
Also, I don't find the skills overwhelming when they all come at once in an expansion. I welcome the change. Many, many new and interesting skills for me to play around with and decide how they work into my playstyle and how I can incorperate them into my builds. I'd much rather they stuck to their free to play with expansions model than to P2P. In fact, they've already said numerous times GW2 will be free to play, making this thread redundant.
Also, I don't find the skills overwhelming when they all come at once in an expansion. I welcome the change. Many, many new and interesting skills for me to play around with and decide how they work into my playstyle and how I can incorperate them into my builds. I'd much rather they stuck to their free to play with expansions model than to P2P. In fact, they've already said numerous times GW2 will be free to play, making this thread redundant.
Redfeather1975
I prefer the campaigns model over expansions. But that's another topic I guess.
Shayne Hawke
Next time I'll be sure to get the title right, because it appears that my original attention for this thread got turned into something that I'm very sure has already been discussed.
DarthFlesh
if GW2 went to pay to play, id rather or even go play 2moons or play WoW on private servers lol pvp there is outrageous, even thou i preffer gw xD
Timotheos
If GW2 had a fee, I'd still play it. I just love GW itself too much.
darkdreamr
I doubt there will be a monthly fee. However, consider how much it costs to buy all 3 campaigns and GWEN - between $150 and $200. Comparable to about a year and a half of a monthly fee ($13/month). It's not that much cheaper.
-Loki-
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More money?= More content?
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digimonizm
I would only get GW2 if it becomes the next Starcraft-like craze in korea, i'm more into gvg/vs competition with $200,000 tourneys and stuff anyway.
GW1 had it going on until nf came out. SAD to see what could have become something awesome just be killed off like that :'(
edit: I know they have monthly $100,000 tourney's now but, I hear all they give the winners are bags of crap worth up to $100,000 and not actual cash. So there is no incentive to form a pro team anymore. (I think that's why EviL and WM moved on)
GW1 had it going on until nf came out. SAD to see what could have become something awesome just be killed off like that :'(
edit: I know they have monthly $100,000 tourney's now but, I hear all they give the winners are bags of crap worth up to $100,000 and not actual cash. So there is no incentive to form a pro team anymore. (I think that's why EviL and WM moved on)
Gattocheese
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Originally Posted by darkdreamr
I doubt there will be a monthly fee. However, consider how much it costs to buy all 3 campaigns and GWEN - between $150 and $200. Comparable to about a year and a half of a monthly fee ($13/month). It's not that much cheaper.
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My 4th account was free!
My 3rd account has all three campaigns and is about 6 months old - $120 online.
My 2nd account that i play now is 12 months old and i spent about $300 on it.
My 1st account i got 2 weeks after release of Proph. It has about $300 dollars spent on it as well.
Dont worry - Two of those accounts are now in the hands of my girlfriend. So i am roughly paying about $22-$25 a month. Of course most people just have one account, 3 campaigns, expansion and maybe 2-4 extra character slots. I used to have a Guild Leader whom had around 20 accounts OMG!
cosyfiep
still would NOT buy it.....fee or no.
Roderick Bravehart
I would pay for it. GW is worth the fee anyways, all the upgrades I've already paid for... char slots, skill unlocks, campaigns, all kinds of stuff in the in-game store would equal a $5-$10 monthly fee for the last 2 years I've played.
Redfeather1975
That would mean that if I was playing other games, but had a fun idea to try a build I'd have to pay XX.xx dollars just to see if it worked. 
I do that now. I don't normally play GW anymore, unless I happen to think of a build and want to experiment with it, or see what a special event is like.
Is it worth paying XX.xx dollars just to see something for an hour?
I do that now. I don't normally play GW anymore, unless I happen to think of a build and want to experiment with it, or see what a special event is like.
Is it worth paying XX.xx dollars just to see something for an hour?
Turtle222
i wouldnt play it if it had a fee
RhanoctJocosa
I've lost just about all faith in ANet. But I'd probably buy it anyway. Z_Z
captain_carter
Off topic:
Although most subscription games that I know of also require you to buy the game for a starting price similar to that of a GW campaign, and the same goes with their expansion packs.
People rarely seem to consider this.
It might also be worth pointing out that if you stop paying a monthly fee you stop playing fullstop. With GW you can continue to play on your 1/2 campaigns for the forseeable future, you don't have to keep buying new campaigns/expansions in order to keep playing.
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consider how much it costs to buy all 3 campaigns and GWEN - between $150 and $200. Comparable to about a year and a half of a monthly fee ($13/month). It's not that much cheaper.
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People rarely seem to consider this.
It might also be worth pointing out that if you stop paying a monthly fee you stop playing fullstop. With GW you can continue to play on your 1/2 campaigns for the forseeable future, you don't have to keep buying new campaigns/expansions in order to keep playing.
Clarissa F
Moot point. Jeff Strain and others stated over and over they are sticking to the one-time purchase. Their argument was that it allows you to stop and pick up the game at your leisure, and doesn't put them in as much direct competition with other games.
Think about it. You pay $50 and you're done. You can still play WoW or any other game and not worry about re-subscribing to the monthly fee for GW. That casual treatment is what makes GW unique among the games.
As far as more money equaling a better game...it sure as hell didn't help the WoW artwork, did it? He-Man and the Masters of the Universe, anyone? Tried it once, and every time my warrior lifted his sword I waited for him to say, "I have the power!"
Oh, and the argument of the over-time cost being similar...if you are playing from Jan 2006 to Dec 2007 with a $13 subscription, 24X13=$314. With elite tomes and unlocking skills, you can just stay with one campaign and maybe EotN and still have access to all skills and all the decent PvP you want. That drops cost to $90. If they release GW2 at $60, considering the map size and depth of story they've relayed so far, it will still be a bargain.
Think about it. You pay $50 and you're done. You can still play WoW or any other game and not worry about re-subscribing to the monthly fee for GW. That casual treatment is what makes GW unique among the games.
As far as more money equaling a better game...it sure as hell didn't help the WoW artwork, did it? He-Man and the Masters of the Universe, anyone? Tried it once, and every time my warrior lifted his sword I waited for him to say, "I have the power!"
Oh, and the argument of the over-time cost being similar...if you are playing from Jan 2006 to Dec 2007 with a $13 subscription, 24X13=$314. With elite tomes and unlocking skills, you can just stay with one campaign and maybe EotN and still have access to all skills and all the decent PvP you want. That drops cost to $90. If they release GW2 at $60, considering the map size and depth of story they've relayed so far, it will still be a bargain.
azizul1975
if it's $5 a month, i don't have a problem...really. provided :
1. account creation is free (well, may be $5).
2. your account and all your item inventory stays there when you're not within a subscription, for a grace period let's say 6 month after which your account will be deleted if you don't renew subscription.
3. anet resolve the lag issue once and for all.
$5 x 12 = $60... almost equivalent to 2 campaign a year .
1. account creation is free (well, may be $5).
2. your account and all your item inventory stays there when you're not within a subscription, for a grace period let's say 6 month after which your account will be deleted if you don't renew subscription.
3. anet resolve the lag issue once and for all.
$5 x 12 = $60... almost equivalent to 2 campaign a year .
Balan Makki
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More money means they can hire more developers, which means there can be more content. It does not mean there will be.
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Anarkii
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Originally Posted by Vinraith
Fee based games, as mentioned in the "litany" thread for WoW, are designed around their fees. I don't play games that are, at heart, designed more to keep me playing than they are to actually be fun.
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I don't care about the money. I bought GW in April 05, played Prophecies till August 08, finished everything there was to be done, got FoW armor and all that, had FUN, then took a break. I came back in April 06 to play factions, back in Nov 06 to play Nightfall and now I'm coming back in Jan 08 to play GWEN.
In this scenario, I'm happy because I had fun playing. ANET is happy because I bought everything they had to offer. If the model changed to a subscription, they'd want you to keep playing rather than create enjoyable, but less content.
Imagine if all the title grinds were NECESSARY to progress in the game. That kind of stuff.
Nevin
I do think a fee would boost the production values used by Anet which would mean more frequent game updates, and higher quality content updates.
I'd pay if GW2 deserved the 15 a month.
I'd pay if GW2 deserved the 15 a month.