bots in Shing Jea?

R_Frost

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

Me/

i could be wrong but looks like the bot brigade is in full effect in Shing Jea international district. steady flow of low level Ele's with random character names doing the usual bot type moves, running to a sign post, to a npc then certain number of steps sideways and out the exit. they also seem to be using the npc Suhkaro as a point of reference before running up to the Linnok Courtyard.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

This would be the time to use the /report feature and not the fansites.

~Edit

I went to Shing Jea Int. 1 and I saw exactly what you meant. My guildies and I reported every one we could without reaching the limit. We've done our part now. By the way, they're all E/W's, and they all use the storage next to Linhok before entering in a bot like fashion.

It's funny because I saw a seven ele congo line going from storage to the stairs.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

How do these bots learn all the good farm spots? *follows*

chowmein69

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

/report .

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

Because adding LS did nothing to stop the bots that is why u still see them.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

So... what are they farming?

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

They're not farming, Togo's pimp hand is strong.

R_Frost

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
This would be the time to use the /report feature and not the fansites.

~Edit

I went to Shing Jea Int. 1 and I saw exactly what you meant. My guildies and I reported every one we could without reaching the limit. We've done our part now. By the way, they're all E/W's, and they all use the storage next to Linhok before entering in a bot like fashion.

It's funny because I saw a seven ele congo line going from storage to the stairs.
yeah i reported about 7 all with the first name cancan+random characters after. i didnt know what the limit is so i figured i would just wait and go back later. i saw them talking to a secondary trainer but didnt know if they were talking to the monk or warrior. as for the storage ive seen them talking to the agent first then go to a chest then walk up the side of the mountain and some would just disappear. they are also going into tsumei village

ghostlyfenix

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

W/

some could be real players farming the same stuff the bots are...u need more proof, like seeing the same person after hourly intervals

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by ghostlyfenix
some could be real players farming the same stuff the bots are...u need more proof, like seeing the same person after hourly intervals
Come on now, really. If any are real players, A-Net will fish em' out, or they'll be banned and have to appeal it. I doubt any are real players.

Queenie

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Was just there was a friend...so many bots.
Banhammer anyone?

leprekan

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna
Come on now, really. If any are real players, A-Net will fish em' out, or they'll be banned and have to appeal it. I doubt any are real players.
Speaking as one that has been oops banned more than once .. BRILLIANT IDEA! Nothing makes an innocent persons day like having to spam Anet support to get unbanned when they didn't do anything. May you experience the same level of fun.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by ghostlyfenix
some could be real players farming the same stuff the bots are...u need more proof, like seeing the same person after hourly intervals
Oh, no, it's ok for a player to /report without having absolute "proof." We don't slap a block or a ban on someone without careful examination of their character history. The Support Team has become super-fast and super-accurate about looking at a bunch of different statistics (I think they look at about 20+ different parameters) and determining "Yep, that's a bot." (leprekan, I don't question that you've been blocked in error, and I'm very sorry for that, but I assure you, you are part of a very small percentage of the numbers who are blocked with all justification.)

So even if a dozen people stand in SJM and send /report to the system about the exact same character, no account is going to get booted until the team has researched the account. (Ahem, after which, I imagine, they will be booted. I mean, they're bloomin' easy to spot! )

Thanks for helping out, guys. SJM is definitely a super-hot bot spot just now. You send 'em; we'll nab 'em, with thanks. I'll check with Support when we have our weekly call to see how we're doing on the blocks and bans.

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by leprekan
Speaking as one that has been oops banned more than once .. BRILLIANT IDEA! Nothing makes an innocent persons day like having to spam Anet support to get unbanned when they didn't do anything. May you experience the same level of fun.
Hey, like I said, usually A-Net would fish out the players who act like players, you just got unlucky, besides I haven't farmed in a long time, so It's not likely. And when I do farm it's in teams, I don't really solo.

leprekan

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
leprekan, I don't question that you've been blocked in error, and I'm very sorry for that, but I assure you, you are part of a very small percentage of the numbers who are blocked with all justification.
I can't help it if I am efficient

Sorry if I am rather uptight on the topic. Been on the oops end of a ban stick before. You guys have ALWAYS corrected it .. doesn't make it suck any less though.

Players being gung ho are a tad annoying .. running through Bergen on my monk and glance at local chat at exit. 3 morons were discussing my char name as one of the "bots" to report. Kind of sad that I now /rank at exits in the hopes over zealous people are bright enough to figure out .. bots don't tend to have fame.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by leprekan
I can't help it if I am efficient
Hey, you're just that good.

I do thank you for your non-cranky attitude. That's really nice of you.

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

I'm nosy... what is it they're farming? Anyone know?

I pwnd U

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

Quote:
Originally Posted by genofreek
I'm nosy... what is it they're farming? Anyone know?

I was wondering the same thing. I don't know exactly what they would be farming.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

maybe some beginner quest with like a 100g reward?

Roo Ella

Roo Ella

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Australia

Oz

E/R

After watching these "Bots" for a while they are getting made at the link spot every few sec then going to Headmaster Vhang to claim that reward
they then run to the guy you get the Party team Quest to get the mon credit
Dunno what they do after that but have seen a few names come back got to the Capper Trap guy and also Zhan using Quin as the "Signpost"
Then running up stairs to togo sometimes using the Signpost at the bottom coming back and then using that storage agent in that area.
It's like a conga line at the moment.

So I would say 300 to 500g in a few min?
and with at lest 20 or 30 bots doing this will rack up the money
Hope they fix this
There all streaming out Panjiang Peninsula as well.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by R_Frost
i could be wrong but looks like the bot brigade is in full effect in Shing Jea international district.
Yes. There's hundreds of them.

It's very easy to spot the bots in the international district. There's just a handful other people there, so when you come to Shing Jea and there's hundreds of eles pouring out the door, all named things like "Asdfs asdfda" and all running the exact same route... well, you don't need a vivid imagination to think they're bots.

It's not the only place in international district with bots (there's a steady trickle of monks at e.g. Altrumm Ruins) but it's the most obvius.

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

Quote:
Originally Posted by genofreek
I'm nosy... what is it they're farming? Anyone know?
Are we sure that they are farming something there ?

Considering that this is the first time I've heard of bots that weren't monks of some kind, it could be that the bot farmers have changed their builds and are now working new bots through to the new farming areas.

TideSwayer

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
maybe some beginner quest with like a 100g reward?
This might be it. The Shing Jea Monastery "Forming a Party" quest (or named something similar) you get at the door gives you 1 monastery credit just for adding a hench and walking outside. (The reward guy is just outside the door.) Part of your reward is 1 monastery credit, which can be exchanged in SJM for a blue scroll which sells to the merchant for 100g.

I know all about this quest b/c it's what I use on my new Canthan chars to get enough $$$ to open up storage/material storage. ANet should probably modify that reward. Seems to be a bit much for so little work. If that quest isn't being botted now, it may be in the future. Alternatively that quest could just open your storage/material storage automatically for doing it or something (since that's what I'd gather most people do it for anyways). The bots may either be outright cashing in the monastery credits or gathering bunches of them to sell in bulk or something.

Then again, the bots could be doing something completely different. Who knows?

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

Maybe they are just botting a really long part like the whole of factions newb island. To be hoenst in the point of a code its long but technically you could get the island done in a matter of hours. They could be botting there way to lvl 20 (IMO factions is easier to level). Then they could leave the atea for other stuff.

I went to an international district for the first time in about 30 months and what i experienced in shing jea last week were ellys with strange names running to the exact same points.

lewstherint

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Uppsala, Sweden

Our Wish Izzys Command [IMBA]

W/

probably botting the first quest instead of having to level chars and find quest yet not buy more than 1 campaign just to get account banned dont seem like fun ;& buddy keys ftw

artay

artay

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

The Agony Scene

E/

Went there and left :O Even though I know of Anets screening process, I didnt want to risk it, met a nice german though.

Theres Ele's everywhere! Holy crap! like rush hour in tokyo! and everyone's elaboratly dressed!

stuntharley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Critical Chop [cC]

W/

Lololol
Just Went To Shing Jea, And Every Char Was A Lvl 2 Or 3 Ele, With The Same 3 Henchmen Lmfao.

sky sliverwolf

sky sliverwolf

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

R/

I went there to check it out OMG theres so many of them!!! I never used /report so much since it came out. They all ave lvl 2-5. And only found them at shing jea and at the village. So they must be just doing the sec prof quest, cashing in, deleting char, make new one and repeat.

Vall Dan

Vall Dan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

Georgia

R/Mo

This is your bot-watch traffic report...heavy congestion on I-10 Northbound into Sunqua Vale...motorists in the International District might want to find alternate routes to work this morning...

sky sliverwolf

sky sliverwolf

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

R/

LOL you know its bad when we get traffic reports

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

A week ago I've seen them, got interested and I actually investigated this case. I was really interested how those bots are making money and how efficient it was.

I followed them from creation to deletion and tried to do exactly what they do, and possibly do that even better. I found that the average one lives 17 minutes, and make less than 1,300 gold (I haven't put down the exact number, I think it was about 815g + 4 monastery credits)

They are all Elementalists choosing secondary Warrior, simply because it's fastest (shortest ways) and the quests are one of easiest to automate (use 1-2 skills or just stay there and henchies kill). The last thing they do is Choose Your Secondary Profession quest and putting gold and monastery credits into storage. Yes, they lose 50g per character to open Xunlai storage account, they don't trade them to another bot account, just put into storage. Then immediately create another character and repeat. None of them do A Formal Introduction despite this quest being very very simple and rewarding 150g.

So they make near 1,300g in 17 minutes, at this rate it's near 4,500g per hour. Sounds really pathetic (It's still possible to farm 10-15k per hour consistently), but done nonstop 24 hours is over 110k hard cash a day, not depending on selling anything to people and fully automated.

They should be very easy to spot for the ban, all of them.

Holly Herro

Holly Herro

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Kangaroo-land.

Blades of the Dingo [AUST]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
A week ago I've seen them, got interested and I actually investigated this case. I was really interested how those bots are making money and how efficient it was.

I followed them from creation to deletion and tried to do exactly what they do, and possibly do that even better. I found that the average one lives 17 minutes, and make less than 1,300 gold (I haven't put down the exact number, I think it was about 815g + 4 monastery credits)

They are all Elementalists choosing secondary Warrior, simply because it's fastest (shortest ways) and the quests are one of easiest to automate (use 1-2 skills or just stay there and henchies kill). The last thing they do is Choose Your Secondary Profession quest and putting gold and monastery credits into storage. Yes, they lose 50g per character to open Xunlai storage account, they don't trade them to another bot account, just put into storage. Then immediately create another character and repeat. None of them do A Formal Introduction despite this quest being very very simple and rewarding 150g.

So they make near 1,300g in 17 minutes, at this rate it's near 4,500g per hour. Sounds really pathetic (It's still possible to farm 10-15k per hour consistently), but done nonstop 24 hours is over 110k hard cash a day, not depending on selling anything to people and fully automated.

They should be very easy to spot for the ban, all of them.
Who needs a life when I can make that much money?

cebalrai

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2007

Mature Gaming Association

Me/E

I just reported my max in Shing Jea. It took about 60 seconds. They're streaming through there like a waterfall.... I hope anet does something about this...

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

why are they all lvl 2 -3 .. speaking to Ludo, then leaving..

edit - found the answer reading through the thread =D

cebalrai

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2007

Mature Gaming Association

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
A week ago I've seen them, got interested and I actually investigated this case. I was really interested how those bots are making money and how efficient it was.

I followed them from creation to deletion and tried to do exactly what they do, and possibly do that even better. I found that the average one lives 17 minutes, and make less than 1,300 gold (I haven't put down the exact number, I think it was about 815g + 4 monastery credits)

They are all Elementalists choosing secondary Warrior, simply because it's fastest (shortest ways) and the quests are one of easiest to automate (use 1-2 skills or just stay there and henchies kill). The last thing they do is Choose Your Secondary Profession quest and putting gold and monastery credits into storage. Yes, they lose 50g per character to open Xunlai storage account, they don't trade them to another bot account, just put into storage. Then immediately create another character and repeat. None of them do A Formal Introduction despite this quest being very very simple and rewarding 150g.

So they make near 1,300g in 17 minutes, at this rate it's near 4,500g per hour. Sounds really pathetic (It's still possible to farm 10-15k per hour consistently), but done nonstop 24 hours is over 110k hard cash a day, not depending on selling anything to people and fully automated.

They should be very easy to spot for the ban, all of them.
Perhaps they evade being banned since the character gets deleted before Anet can complete their investigation? They destroy the evidence...

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

O Great - now ANet will remove the reward from those first couple of quests and the new players will have to really struggle to be able to get to storage.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cebalrai
So they make near 1,300g in 17 minutes, at this rate it's near 4,500g per hour. Sounds really pathetic (It's still possible to farm 10-15k per hour consistently), but done nonstop 24 hours is over 110k hard cash a day, not depending on selling anything to people and fully automated.
For arguments sake, suppose they 'earn' 1,000g in 15 minutes. This means that one bot makes 4,000g per hour or 96k a day. Now suppose someone is running 25 bots doing this same procedure over 24 hours - they make: 4k*24hours*25bots = 2,400k.

2.4 million a day isn't to be snuffed at.

Mark Nevermiss

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Please do not nerf the quest. Its the way I used to get my 100 gp to access storage on new chars.

MYSTERYouse

MYSTERYouse

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Slovakia

Farming Crew UK [Fcuk]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cebalrai
Perhaps they evade being banned since the character gets deleted before Anet can complete their investigation? They destroy the evidence...
I am sure they can check actions performed by any of your chars, even when you delete them (this applies to the account too). As Gaile mentioned in some of her posts, ... you buy a key, we know it, you drop a coin, we know it ... (I dont have an exact quote, but the idea is same), everything is being logged on the server side, its only a matter of finding a time for investigating potential issues...

techiegal

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2007

Mystic Society

R/Mo

Maybe the should only give out one free trial account per IP address.