I am 26 I have a house and good job, im a combat veteran and I have a Great Girl friend and NOTHING to be ashamed of.
Your post content, reflects badly on the above statement, ie you sound like a 13 year old having a tantrum.
I have played this game for over two years, and i like to farm, a lot, you really need to think what is currently in demand in terms of materials and the like , for they are far more profitable to farm than the elusive old school fellblade, they sell faster and get you a better return for your time, for example diessa chalices, rin relics, etc for a start.
Rather than post about how Anet has knackered farming i think the opposite is true, since HM everywhere is farmable pretty much with a bit of thought and invention, which i think makes it more interesting.
Regarding 'leetness' i lol'd...hard
Why are they Punishing Hardcore Players
Angelic Upstart
Ouchie
Personally I would never get rid of my Melandru's Stalker to get the Spider on my main character.
Milennin
Wow, you call yourself a hardcore player?XD Grinding for a few hours isn't hardcore, you know... Getting 30+ maxed titles, buying perfect req.7 Crystalline Swords (without help from real-world trading), reaching the top in PvP, now that is what I call hardcore.
Who cares that perfect Fellblades aren't worth more than 10K nowadays? If you want to be 'leet' and have something not every noob in the town can get, get one of those unconditional +15% weapons or miniature Pandas.
I bought a Mallyx's Reaver and Elemental Sword when they were waaay over 100K. Now they're barely worth more than a perfect modded collector's weapon... I don't care, because I mainly bought them because I loved the skins and had nothing else to do at that time. People used to look up to people with items like that, and I'll admit I liked showing them off sometimes, but nowadays nobody seems to care if I'm wielding a max Elemental Sword or Fellblade, because they aren't rare anymore... do I care about losing the experience of showing off my stuff. No, because showing off isn't like the best experience I can have while playing an online game. Having fun pwning missions on Hard Mode while helping friends is way more fun in my opinion, and also a much better way to show off your skills.
Don't act like the world is going to explode just because your farmed blades are trash now, get over it or try aiming for something higher than Fellblades next time...
Who cares that perfect Fellblades aren't worth more than 10K nowadays? If you want to be 'leet' and have something not every noob in the town can get, get one of those unconditional +15% weapons or miniature Pandas.
I bought a Mallyx's Reaver and Elemental Sword when they were waaay over 100K. Now they're barely worth more than a perfect modded collector's weapon... I don't care, because I mainly bought them because I loved the skins and had nothing else to do at that time. People used to look up to people with items like that, and I'll admit I liked showing them off sometimes, but nowadays nobody seems to care if I'm wielding a max Elemental Sword or Fellblade, because they aren't rare anymore... do I care about losing the experience of showing off my stuff. No, because showing off isn't like the best experience I can have while playing an online game. Having fun pwning missions on Hard Mode while helping friends is way more fun in my opinion, and also a much better way to show off your skills.
Don't act like the world is going to explode just because your farmed blades are trash now, get over it or try aiming for something higher than Fellblades next time...
Shakti
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I just woke up my hubby to be because I was laughing so hard about the puppy disclaimer.
<----------laugh tears lol
puffzilla
I found that if you farm chests your gold rate goes down a lot. Now that I don't really agree with. Apart from that elite items becoming more common is just part of the game.
My Warrior still has elite dragon armor, dyed black. The only thing I've changed is I've added dragon gauntlets. I like the way my char looks and don't feel a need to change. I don't care about the flavor of the month elite items. Apart from they're really to cool to find and sell
My Warrior still has elite dragon armor, dyed black. The only thing I've changed is I've added dragon gauntlets. I like the way my char looks and don't feel a need to change. I don't care about the flavor of the month elite items. Apart from they're really to cool to find and sell
Tyla
PvE was more for the Casual Gamer, and it made the game easier for people finding trouble, as if we didn't have people like that today.
Your post screams "LOL I PLAY MORE THAN YOU I DESERVE MORE THAN YOU" just means you think this is a Time>Skill(which it is now anyway) game over Skill>Time(which it is advertised as)
How the HELL did tomes change anything?
Unlock a skill via PvP for a campaign....you can buy at any skill trader at that campaign, Tomes only work on UNLOCKED skills aswell.
Not much of a difference but lowers the price of skills from a skill trader.
No such thing as 'best runes', 'best inscription' and Fellblades aren't everything. Again, Tomes work on UNLOCKED skills only. And 18 hours isn't much and not considered 'Hardcore Player' and more of a casual play.
You havn't beaten all Campaigns? Try doing that to atleast validate your argument as it is aimed at PvE, well...even THAT won't validate it.
I thought this was supposed to be a CORPG as i've heard. And getting a piece of armour/weapon/skill ISN'T supposed to be the point. I thought that was how WoW was aimed to be. (Just my thought, i have not played much WoW before)
Aaaaand your point is?
Seriously if they take my black widow away, and make it really easy to get Im gonna fing quit.[/QUOTE]
You can get runs to it...and they're only cheap.
Conclusion: If your bored of PvE...go to PvP...
Your post screams "LOL I PLAY MORE THAN YOU I DESERVE MORE THAN YOU" just means you think this is a Time>Skill(which it is now anyway) game over Skill>Time(which it is advertised as)
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Unlock a skill via PvP for a campaign....you can buy at any skill trader at that campaign, Tomes only work on UNLOCKED skills aswell.
Not much of a difference but lowers the price of skills from a skill trader.
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You can get runs to it...and they're only cheap.
Conclusion: If your bored of PvE...go to PvP...
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Get some Chaos Gloves, Polar Bear, everlasting Beetle and one of the few unconditional weapons still in the game and you are rare again.
You look around and see only '1337' characters in town?
Sure, since a lot of them have been playing for 2+ years now.
Black Widow farm near Ascalon? I had a guildie with FoW at minimum level once (that's lvl 8).
The armor cost him 'only' some high end HoH chest drops.
When you know how to play the game, you have plenty of time and you have a little luck, you can have almost anything you want.
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You have a screenshot with your team winning HA? Beating DoA with a balanced group?
Or is this just about the virtual ownage of some pixels you can show that others in your opinion should not have because they are less '1337'?
Antheus
This isn't about hardcore.
It's about a whine over balanced gameplay. Unlike grind-based MMOs, in GW you cannot grind to superiority.
It's just the usual "I wanna pwn low level noobs".
Besides - it's just "noob" talk anyway. The only one who has even slight right to talk about hardcore is "God among mere mortals" or the high ranked pvp players, and their whines don't get taken seriously either due to all that "no life" aspect.
BTW: Does your guildhall smell of rich mahagony? There aren't any "Tiny gods walking among mere mortals".
It's about a whine over balanced gameplay. Unlike grind-based MMOs, in GW you cannot grind to superiority.
It's just the usual "I wanna pwn low level noobs".
Besides - it's just "noob" talk anyway. The only one who has even slight right to talk about hardcore is "God among mere mortals" or the high ranked pvp players, and their whines don't get taken seriously either due to all that "no life" aspect.
BTW: Does your guildhall smell of rich mahagony? There aren't any "Tiny gods walking among mere mortals".
freekedoutfish
So...
Your p'd off because you're once rare drops are no longer rare and you cant make money from selling them, because the venders sell them?
Your p'd off because both the casual and hardcore players can very easily buy any rune or incription and build any armor or weapon to their choosing?
...em....grow up!
Sorry but one of the beauties of GWs, is that everything is easily available to everyone and everyone is capable of creating and using the same armor, weapons and having the same stats.
No one has any advantage over another because we can all very easily achieve and attain the same things.
What your asking for is Anet to remove rune traders, remove insignia traders, remove weapon crafters, remove dye traders and ask everyone to go out and farm EVERYTHING!
Which basically means only those with hours of free time can aquire runes and other drops, while those who like to come in, play a quick game and get out are stuffed!
And how exactly does this mean Anet hates the hardcore gamer?
Hardcore gamers still have plenty of stuff to grind for if they choose like obsidian armor and titles. This is purely because you cant make hundreds of gold as easily by selling drops that are now easily attained from traders.
Again... grow up!
Actually I may have posted in here years ago and just forgot!
Your p'd off because you're once rare drops are no longer rare and you cant make money from selling them, because the venders sell them?
Your p'd off because both the casual and hardcore players can very easily buy any rune or incription and build any armor or weapon to their choosing?
...em....grow up!
Sorry but one of the beauties of GWs, is that everything is easily available to everyone and everyone is capable of creating and using the same armor, weapons and having the same stats.
No one has any advantage over another because we can all very easily achieve and attain the same things.
What your asking for is Anet to remove rune traders, remove insignia traders, remove weapon crafters, remove dye traders and ask everyone to go out and farm EVERYTHING!
Which basically means only those with hours of free time can aquire runes and other drops, while those who like to come in, play a quick game and get out are stuffed!
And how exactly does this mean Anet hates the hardcore gamer?
Hardcore gamers still have plenty of stuff to grind for if they choose like obsidian armor and titles. This is purely because you cant make hundreds of gold as easily by selling drops that are now easily attained from traders.
Again... grow up!
Actually I may have posted in here years ago and just forgot!
Little Rahxephon
I agree with you. Remember when superior absorbtion used to be 100k?
a white, max dmg fellblade around 50kish?
When getting a sup vigor was hitting the jackpot?
And yes, getting 15k armor was..an achievement! People gathered around you to ask you what armor that is! I spent days and days to get all the elites..worked so hard cause in entire tyria only 1 boss has that elite and I need to cross 3 areas to get there..now you just buy your title for money..awsum any idiot can play gw now and be 1337!
a white, max dmg fellblade around 50kish?
When getting a sup vigor was hitting the jackpot?
And yes, getting 15k armor was..an achievement! People gathered around you to ask you what armor that is! I spent days and days to get all the elites..worked so hard cause in entire tyria only 1 boss has that elite and I need to cross 3 areas to get there..now you just buy your title for money..awsum
any idiot can play gw now and be 1337!
Jongo River
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And yes, getting 15k armor was..an achievement! People gathered around you to ask you what armor that is! I spent days and days to get all the elites..worked so hard cause in entire tyria only 1 boss has that elite and I need to cross 3 areas to get there..now you just buy your title for money..awsum
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Oh and titles were a feature added to the game, they weren't part of the original Prophecies release, so using them in talk of how GW used to be is pretty selective. It used to be title free. Now *those* were good times.
Buster
I think it is cool that all players are able to enjoy everything GW has to offer but on the other hand I do agree with the op somewhat. Taking the fun out of the game, making things too easy to obtain makes it really boring. They really need to reconsider their philosophy when it comes to catering to gamers. Cater to both hardcore and causal gamers not just the casuals. Though this is NCSoft, making simple easy games for the casuals has always been there way and also has been there downfall. I still play after 2 years but they certainly can do alot better.
firekil
The problem is that it is too damn easy to get the things that used to be revered. Yes anet helped casual players, but they also hurt their hardcore players who like to work hard just to be better than the other guy. My point is BRING BACK GRIFFONS
Chrono Re delle Ere
I was dead poor till 1 year ago you know? Now every single day I manage to get around 50k just by casual gaming and slling the loot (I don't even go and spam: wts x item for 10k....I just see wtb and sell the item, could there be something nicer?). As I said somewhere else, I hate grinding and I never dropped and high end item; now, there was a period, where I was just BROKE, went pvping in a pvp guild, gvg all the day, loads of fun, learnt something about pvp, then went back to pve as titan gem farm came out: 500k per day isn't bad, imo. And I still enjoy pvping. Now you saying that I should have stopped playing GW (because I would have done so, prices were unreachable, and even if I really liked gvging all the day, I would have quit once or then) to make you feel leeter?
Good point man.
I can also add that I was around since the release of prophecies, and the day after sup absorbtion dropped in price, I got one while playing with henchies....you're not the only unlucky man on earth, you know.
Good point man.
I can also add that I was around since the release of prophecies, and the day after sup absorbtion dropped in price, I got one while playing with henchies....you're not the only unlucky man on earth, you know.
Malice Black
I read this thread, and I know I made the right choice by taking a veryyyyyyy long break from the game.
Rhedd
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The problem is that it is too damn easy to get the things that used to be revered. Yes anet helped casual players, but they also hurt their hardcore players who like to work hard just to be better than the other guy. My point is BRING BACK GRIFFONS
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Really stop and think.
You're saying that you find value in an item only because other people don't have it, but wish they did.
You're saying that you find enjoyment not in what you have, but in what other people lack.
You're saying you're only made happy by other people being unhappy and not getting what they want.
You're saying that if everyone has what they really want to have, you're angry because it's no good unless someone is suffering and jealous of you.
I don't know which is worse, the fact that you are so absorbed in your own vanity, or that you want a system that actively encourages jealousy and covetousness in others.
I think people tend to look at people that use the word "evil", and think they're some sort of fundamentalist nut, so I'll use the word "bad", instead...
This is BAD. Very, very, very BAD. Neither GW, nor any other game, nor anyone in real life should encourage this sort of thinking and behavior.
Yes, most MMORPGs are intentionally designed to be addictive, and use this bit of human nature to their advantage, but that doesn't even begin to make it right.
Please, just think for a moment.
BAD.
Sirius-NZ
I don't mind powerful/special items myself, but facing facts either everyone will have them or everyone will want them. And they'll be overpriced, and generally out of my reach.
So as far as I'm concerned it's better to have them being more accessible and shift the focus elsewhere - so that you don't need to be an addict to be successful at the game.
So as far as I'm concerned it's better to have them being more accessible and shift the focus elsewhere - so that you don't need to be an addict to be successful at the game.
Lady Raenef
Well, there are way more people in Obsidian armor than there used to be...hmm.
Sirius-NZ
Wish I could figure out why. It's not THAT cool.
Darksun
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Okay, all flaming and joking aside, I really want you, the OP, and a few other people in this thread to stop and think about what you're saying.
Really stop and think. You're saying that you find value in an item only because other people don't have it, but wish they did. You're saying that you find enjoyment not in what you have, but in what other people lack. You're saying you're only made happy by other people being unhappy and not getting what they want. You're saying that if everyone has what they really want to have, you're angry because it's no good unless someone is suffering and jealous of you. I don't know which is worse, the fact that you are so absorbed in your own vanity, or that you want a system that actively encourages jealousy and covetousness in others. I think people tend to look at people that use the word "evil", and think they're some sort of fundamentalist nut, so I'll use the word "bad", instead... This is BAD. Very, very, very BAD. Neither GW, nor any other game, nor anyone in real life should encourage this sort of thinking and behavior. Yes, most MMORPGs are intentionally designed to be addictive, and use this bit of human nature to their advantage, but that doesn't even begin to make it right. Please, just think for a moment. BAD. |
Malice Black
You play GW...that means you're anything but hardcore
Hardcore players play proper MMO's
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Hardcore players play proper MMO's
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Darksun
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You play GW...that means you're anything but hardcore
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Spart
Face it. Guild Wars is aimed at casual gamers. It's why I like it. WoW however is aimed at hardcore people who enjoy spending hours upon hours farming and stuff.
Harrier's haste
and pvp, to keep the Warlord rank, you HAVE to play like 18 hours a day or something
Turtle222
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Okay, all flaming and joking aside, I really want you, the OP, and a few other people in this thread to stop and think about what you're saying.
Really stop and think. You're saying that you find value in an item only because other people don't have it, but wish they did. You're saying that you find enjoyment not in what you have, but in what other people lack. You're saying you're only made happy by other people being unhappy and not getting what they want. You're saying that if everyone has what they really want to have, you're angry because it's no good unless someone is suffering and jealous of you. I don't know which is worse, the fact that you are so absorbed in your own vanity, or that you want a system that actively encourages jealousy and covetousness in others. I think people tend to look at people that use the word "evil", and think they're some sort of fundamentalist nut, so I'll use the word "bad", instead... This is BAD. Very, very, very BAD. Neither GW, nor any other game, nor anyone in real life should encourage this sort of thinking and behavior. Yes, most MMORPGs are intentionally designed to be addictive, and use this bit of human nature to their advantage, but that doesn't even begin to make it right. Please, just think for a moment. BAD. |
If you think that is evil/bad...you have either been spoilt or taken care of.
good luck.I shan't explain why. It is simply not understood until you are a little bit more ....experienced shall we say
Lawliet Kira
Another complain thread >.> If you dont like the updates then freaking quit guild wars and stop complaining to us
Darksun
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Although i disagree with OP and his hardcore ways...your post made me laugh.
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Keep truckin Rhedd!
Turtle222
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No, it's a view that IS experienced. One that finds value in what one has, as opposed to someone who believes that value is found only in comparison. You are saying that someone has been spoiled if they find vanity & self absorption bad? Dunno how that qualifies for maturity, but whatever.. Gotta love when people poo poo on standards..
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Bowstring Badass
YAY MORE QQ. Threads on how ANET fixed the economy...
and I vote for Stormlord Alex winning on Page1.
and I vote for Stormlord Alex winning on Page1.
Rhedd
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This is the most epic, awesome post ever on this forum. It should be part of the EULA. Rhedd... I love you.
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Sir Seifus Halbred
Yes the Guild Wars economy is screwed up and so is the game in more ways then one, yet it is still fun to play. 
Harrier's haste
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Another complain thread >.> If you dont like the updates then freaking quit guild wars and stop complaining to us
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What more can I say? You got it bob Gj
Woop Shotty
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And now TOMES? are you Fing kidding me.
so NO LIE. I tested it last week. 18 hours of game play. TOTAL = max lvl, Most elite armor in game, best runes, best incription, fell blade max stats max inscription. Best Farming Builds available through Tome usage. Total cost 150k. |
maraxusofk
pft elitism is good. its wut drives economies in real life and in video games. but remember, this isnt the real life. relax its just a game. im pretty sure i would be considered a hard core player, but i cant relly care if other ppl get good items. so what if crystallines are more common. ill always have my old school cry, so i can feel nothing but joy for poor ppl who get to a cry too.
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You're going to quit if they make it easier for players to receive a black widow? You are the most Selfish player I have ever met.
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It all started with Rune Traders.
For those of you who remember the days, when gathering the right runes was hard AS HELL. You will know what I am talking about. Than they introduced a series of vendors, and traders. that made it all pointless, HOURS OF FARMING Pointless in a mater of months. Nightfalls brought Inscriptions. OH THX, cool so the 10 req 9 15 ^50 Fell Blades I farmed jsut droped to 25% of their current market value Over Night. WOW, so there goes 5 months of Farming in my off time. To gather swords, That I would have eventually Sold. Because you wanted to do what? Make it incredibly easy to get the best weapons/skins in the game? I mean WTF is the point anymore. And now TOMES? are you Fing kidding me. so NO LIE. I tested it last week. 18 hours of game play. TOTAL = max lvl, Most elite armor in game, best runes, best incription, fell blade max stats max inscription. Best Farming Builds available through Tome usage. Total cost 150k. so for 150k and 18 hours I have just BEATEN GW for life. There is really nothing else to want. Yeah I diddnt max out titles, or beat all 3 campaigns FINE. But is this a Single player game, where beating a story line is the point? No its an MMORPG where getting some piece of armor or a weapon or skill that some one else doesnt have is SUPPOSED to be the point. I look around any town and see nothing but l337 characters fully tweaked out. I cant remember the last time I saw more than 2 characters not wearing 1.5k or higher armor in the same place. So whats next? Are they gonna input a Farm somehwere, where Dire Blackwidows spawn. And you can warp there from ascalon for 10k. And jsut tame one. Yeah that would make sense. Seriously if they take my black widow away, and make it really easy to get Im gonna fing quit. |
GG on telling everyone what this game is supposed to be and how we're supposed to play it - I didnt know what the hell I was doing until you came along and enlightened me.
Master Knightfall
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Elitists are so gay.
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BlackSephir
And they say that it's pvp players who are elitists ;d
Shuuda
PvP characters suk because they let noobz play PvP without doing all teh grind for leet weaponZ. /sarcasim
On a serious note, if by casual, you mean that I don't need to play/grind of 18 hours a day to feel like I've accomplished something, then please explain how that could possibly be bad.
On a serious note, if by casual, you mean that I don't need to play/grind of 18 hours a day to feel like I've accomplished something, then please explain how that could possibly be bad.
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so for 150k and 18 hours I have just BEATEN GW for life. There is really nothing else to want. Yeah I diddnt max out titles, or beat all 3 campaigns FINE. But is this a Single player game, where beating a story line is the point?
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