BMP for sale

Shadowspawn X

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOCB22
WTF?!!! I bought 3 char slots just to get the damn BMP. this F'N SUCKS! I didn't see an option for KY with my order
Yeah I did as well, no sense in paying attention to events and promotions anymore in the end everyone will get everything. All games give away the farm at the end of its lifespan. Another good example is the plans for festival hats of the past being reoffered.

Conn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by the Puppeteer
well I guess now the ppl who didn't get it can't complain now...
And the people who did get it, will start complaining

Dark-NighT

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

YES YES YES, ANET YOU MADE MY DAY

ok caps off!

Anyway i cant wait till it arrives and finally see the missions myself.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Hmmm, first the Wintersday hats get offered for free after Wintersday, and now this.

Looks like I quit Guild Wars a little too late... could have saved myself some money. (kidding... sort of.)

But, I must say, I saw this coming. But lesson learned: No reason to buy anything / get anything "limited". Chances are, there will be a chance to get it later on.

How long before the CE emote aura goes for $10?

Kula

Kula

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

West Coast, USA

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Please remove the "Bonus" and "Promotion" from the entire wording of BMP now...please...
IMO they should of removed the weapons, still....
Again, BMP != Promotion, it is a product that they sell. I know it's hard to distinguish the two at first, and that's where Anet wasn't very clear about (at first), but then nobody asked either and just assumed. The BMP may have taken part in said promotion, but it is not itself a promotion as promotions come and pass.

It's like saying the BMP went on sale for a few months and only for those few months. The SALE itself is a promotion, but not the product. After that promotion is over, no one can get it on sale anymore, but perhaps in a different promotion which in this case being regular price.

Promotion = pretty much anything Anet announces or has to offer in order to get you excited over their game. Anyone who goes shopping is familiar with how stores work their sales.

Bonus = optional , it doesn not mean exclusive



I don't see why the BMP can't be referred to as bonus or a promotion still.

But I can see why it wouldn't be referred to as collector's or exclusive (which the DIVINE AURA was called).

Also, if they remove the special weapons, it doesn't matter to me. It would be nice if they gave something extra to the first wave of players as a sort of consolation, but anyway, meh.

Veripare

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada, Ontario

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackie
Lol at the price tag. Quite steep from such a small content pack, but a true HC fan does not care!
For Undead Daggers and Mursaat staves it is worth 10$.

Scarlett Romanov

Scarlett Romanov

Guest

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Qual
9,99$ Hmm... That's quite expensive...
Yes, but you have to take the time to remember that users had to spend $30 in the store to previously get it. So from that standpoint its not bad. From a what you're getting standpoint, yeah. Its kind of a bit much.


I'm quite curious to see what these other retailers are. Perhaps stores like EB? Hmmm..Where's Gaile?

I don't know if I'll pick up the BMP this time. Several months ago I really wanted it. Now I just dont care whether not I have it. Mleh. I am kinda bored though. I may buy it. It really depends on what other stores are selling it.

I D E L E T E D I

I D E L E T E D I

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

[BAAA] guest me NOW

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drop of Fear
a.net, i love this game, but u're deeply mistaken if u count on having my money for any collectors edition and me taking part in any other promotion from now on .

not bitching, just posting the consequences this move has on me.
should i play gw2 i'll always go for the regular editions. don't count on milking a single additional non-mandatory cent from me

a very angry customer
I totally agree with you. At least they could have said it would go on for sale afterwards. I could have a nice Box + saved money.

pygar

pygar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

KORM

R/Mo

WOOO!!! Kaloo-kalay Happy Day, Happy Day!!

will be buying mine as soon as possible!!

And how is this a waste for anybody? if I was eligible for the promo the first time i would have gotten in on it, but it was closed by the time I started, so no bonus for buying all the expansions for me....now I have all the expansions, I would actually be kind of hosed if they made it a promo like it was last time, and would have to buy the unlock packs or worse something non-GW to qualify. Those of you griping need to realize you spent 30 bucks buying the expansions (or whatever) and u got the BMP for free, I spent all the same money on GW expansions y'all did but have to pay another 10 to get the BMP I have so desperatly wanted to get ever since starting the game, about a week after they closed the first BMP offer.

Really, the complaining here sounds like more "aww, now other people have the cool stuff too- i hate you A-net" jive to me. People get so jealous in this game.

Star Gazer

Star Gazer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Zerohour Enterprises [ZHE]

W/

i do want the divine aura. well, this has pretty much screwed future anet promotions.....i now know that i can just wait it out, let the whiner bitches come on the forums, and i can get it for 1/3 the cost! gg anet, your brilliant as always.

and yeah...the people that whined and cried and said they have no option to pay for it instore.....nice! but i guess those of you that "did not have the option to pay" will suddenly have that option. wooooohoooooooooooooo

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kula
Again, BMP != Promotion, it is a product that they sell

Promotion = pretty much anything Anet announces to get you excited over their game
Promotion.
Isn't very....promotional now because it doesn't PROMOTE anyone to use the online store for other things...only this ONE thing.
(e.g - Promotional Mew card from Pokemon the movie, you can only get it on eBay or something now...)

Quote:
Bonus = optional , it doesn not mean exclusive
Bonus.
No, but it means something given in addition - this is not given in addition to anything now.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Star Gazer
i do want the divine aura. well, this has pretty much screwed future anet promotions.....i now know that i can just wait it out, let the whiner bitches come on the forums, and i can get it for 1/3 the cost! gg anet, your brilliant as always.
Agreed, this will just...destroy "promotion" for any company...i hope i never get into buisness works...

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and yeah...the people that whined and cried and said they have no option to pay for it instore.....nice! but i guess those of you that "did not have the option to pay" will suddenly have that option. wooooohoooooooooooooo
People who wanted this ONLY as a weapons pack brought that argument up in that way - it is obvious in the writing.

The Way Out

The Way Out

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

In my peanut brain

Zomg Zombies [OMG]

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The way I look at it... this is nothing but positive all around. Anet is attempting to increase their online store presence and get people to purchase from them directly. A big plus for anet!

People that didn't buy Eye from their online store are now getting a chance to play a part of the game that was previously unavailable to them. A plus for retail buyers!

People that already had the privilege of playing a special offer game without having to purchase it (unless they purchased extra character slots, which is a plus anyway! Storage mules rock!)

I don't really see the negatives unless people are really that miserable where something as small as this becomes a major issue in their life. At that point, I tell people to get their priorities straight... this is a good thing.

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO]

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by EinherjarMx
i'm starting an epic QQ thread asking for a divine aura, who is with me?
+1....and if not then they need to put up for sale ALL "special" things they have ever offered so I can get my 1st year dragon mask, pumpkin crown, aura, and anything else that was a "special offer"


Oh and also I would have purchased the game when it first came out If I knew I'd like it and would have made my toons long ago so they would have already had their 2nd b-day so go ahead and put my 2nd year b-day gifts in my inventor and set my toons ages to day one of GW....THIS IS THE EXACT MENTALITY PEOPLE ARE USING TO GET THE BMP OFFERED SEPERATELY!!!

Horus

Horus

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

www.godtguild.com

Blades Of Burning Shadows [GoDT]-leader

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yeh, but thenat next promotion, they will do same and we wont buy it, and in the end they wont even put it out for sale...

this really sux^^ i miss nice box of GW:EN and could get game cheaper in local store QQ

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Way Out

I don't really see the negatives unless people are really that miserable where something as small as this becomes a major issue in their life. At that point, I tell people to get their priorities straight... this is a good thing.
Yeah... like it wasn't the bitching for the pack was 1000x worse which is why they caved and made a complete mess of their future consumer confidence in any promotions. GG.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Way Out
The way I look at it... this is nothing but positive all around. Anet is attempting to increase their online store presence and get people to purchase from them directly. A big plus for anet!
Which ANet killed their "promotion" part.
No point in joining in with them now...

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People that didn't buy Eye from their online store are now getting a chance to play a part of the game that was previously unavailable to them. A plus for retail buyers!
And people who bought GW:EN from the online store are missing the physical casing...

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I don't really see the negatives unless people are really that miserable where something as small as this becomes a major issue in their life.
Then there's the whiners who thought of it like that?

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At that point, I tell people to get their priorities straight... this is a good thing.
You should tell yourself that.

Richardt

Richardt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

http://friendsofloa.com/forum

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This is great-I had a couple of friends who for one reason or another couldn't participate in the promotion (and yes a couple who had no desire for extra lore but wanted the spify weapons as soon as they came out but alas....didn't get the promo)-now they can!

And yes I'm a member of the group that went out and bought 3 character slots to get the BMP too. And why should I be bitter? I now have space to make as many pvp chars as I want and I even started branching out into other profs! (Loving the para atm....not so much the armor though).

And will I participate in other limited time offers from ANet? Sure! I love being the first to get something

Dark-NighT

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by EinherjarMx
i'm starting an epic QQ thread asking for a divine aura, who is with me?
I am not with you, i have the Prophecies CE myself and it was kind of hard to obtain because virtually every online store didnt have em anymore, i finally got it from a place that sells games online but was never mentioned in my search for the game because for some reason google wasnt able to find the adress of the store.

So anyway divine aura is not something special, its hot damn exclusive and was available for quite a while, while the BMP was a promotional offer, but only to those that had a Credit card, and not even paypal support, that was their flaw because it left out a lot of users, but they pulled a smart move by putting the BMP on retail, because i will be buying that asap.

Besides the prophecies CE was limited, and for almost 3 years ago when GW didnt have as much players it was enough.

Arcanis the Omnipotent

Arcanis the Omnipotent

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Nova Alliance

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"Spend $20 in our store and get a free bonus mission pack

Or wait two months and buy it for 10 bucks cheaper."

Not only that, but what I bought in the store to get the mission pack, I could have bought during the holiday sale at the reduced price if I had known this.

I'd like my 10 dollar refund now.

Horus Moonlight

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Me/Mo

Don't know if I'll buy it or not. I definitely like the mursaat weapons, but I don't think that is enough justification to buy this.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

JUST AS MANY PEOPLE PREDICTED!

Next prediction(s):

1.) We will see this kind of "packs" in GW2 as well
2.) Maybe also one more in GW1?


If each of this packs is going to cost 10 bucks and offer this or that special, be prepared for a nasty future.

Other games cover their content upgrades with the monthly fee - see EVE, doing the most massive content upgrades of them all for free.

WoW has a fee and charges for new expansions almost full price, dropping later to less than half of a normal full price game.

1.) Guild Wars had full-price stand-alone chapters.
2.) GW:EN was salvaged content for almost full price.
3.) The BMP costs 10 bucks for 4 missions and a weapon skin collection plus video sequences.

4.) GW2 ...?


I see it coming! And they can say WE ASKED FOR IT. Funny...^^

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Presler
but they pulled a smart move by putting the BMP on retail, because i will be buying that asap.

Besides the prophecies CE was limited, and for almost 3 years ago when GW didnt have as much players it was enough.
The Prophecies CE was limited....so was the BMP....
It wasn't a smart move because they lost all 'promotion'/'bonus' offers they can use instore now because people will not buy, QQ their way to it and get what they want.

LeoX

LeoX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

United Kingdom

Guildless Since 2005???

W/

Cool, I didn't get it, i'll get it this time.

Kula

Kula

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

West Coast, USA

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Promotion.
Isn't very....promotional now because it doesn't PROMOTE anyone to use the online store for other things...only this ONE thing.
(e.g - Promotional Mew card from Pokemon the movie, you can only get it on eBay or something now...)

Bonus.
No, but it means something given in addition - this is not given in addition to anything now.

Agreed, this will just...destroy "promotion" for any company...i hope i never get into buisness works...
I agree that offering the BMP at regular price isn't much of a promotion, and I will gladly stand corrected in that part. Although, offering the BMP in b&m stores as a box is a sort of promotion in of itself. Customer walks by the software aisle and sees it, "hmm, look something else for Guild Wars." "Yeah, they must be trying to promote it with this new BMP or something". For customers that don't have the BMP, this could "promote" them enough to buy it and play the game more.

But in exchange you need to know that stores and businesses don't use dictionaries, online or offline, to define what their bonuses and promotions are to be.

But if we all did follow what you linked to for "bonus", then by definition every mission we completed in the game would already include the bonus reward "given to us" without us having to go out of our way to work for it.

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kula
Let this be a lesson to all of you to carefully read the wording next time. And ask in the future if it's the bonus product itself or just the promotion that will be exclusive.
Even if you ask, you're not guaranteed to get the truth/final word on the subject. Anet is happy to say one thing and later, to do something different.

Xira

Xira

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2007

Canada

Necropolis Warlords

N/Me

I didn't get it when it first came out and I still don't really care if I get it or not... I don't like the look of any of the gold weapons except maybe the dead sword. So I doubt I'll bother picking it up unless I'm already at a place that sells it.


But I guess it is kinda cool for all of those who missed out on it.

netniwk

netniwk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Bellgium

W/E

Nice,I missed it the first time.I don't think much retailers will sell it though.

SirJackassIII

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Promotion.
Isn't very....promotional now because it doesn't PROMOTE anyone to use the online store for other things...only this ONE thing.
(e.g - Promotional Mew card from Pokemon the movie, you can only get it on eBay or something now...)

Bonus.
No, but it means something given in addition - this is not given in addition to anything now.
Bonus Mission Pack: Pack of Missions in addition to the original games, namely Prophecies, Factions, NF and EotN.

Bonus Mission Pack Promotion: Promotion of said Pack by giving it for free if you spent enough $$ in the OLS during the period they mentioned.

Currently: Made Bonus Mission Pack available in OLS/retail.

Seems fine to me...

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
But if we all followed what you linked to, then by definition every mission we completed in the game would already include the bonus reward "given to us" without us having to go out of our way to work for it.
Well whatever you do in life - you're working towards something.

These weapons should have been took off the version to be released to atleast keep 'promotion' and 'bonus' in there.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SirJackassIII
Bonus Mission Pack: Pack of Missions in addition to the original games, namely Prophecies, Factions, NF and EotN.
More of a Mission Pack now - it isn't given in addition to anything anymore.....

SirJackassIII

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
More of a Mission Pack now - it isn't given in addition to anything anymore.....
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirJackassIII
in addition to the original games
Either way would work really, but "bonus" sounds better...

EinherjarMx

EinherjarMx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Mexico

La Legion del Dragon [LD]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Presler
I am not with you, i have the Prophecies CE myself and it was kind of hard to obtain because virtually every online store didnt have em anymore, i finally got it from a place that sells games online but was never mentioned in my search for the game because for some reason google wasnt able to find the adress of the store.

So anyway divine aura is not something special, its hot damn exclusive and was available for quite a while, while the BMP was a promotional offer, but only to those that had a Credit card, and not even paypal support, that was their flaw because it left out a lot of users, but they pulled a smart move by putting the BMP on retail, because i will be buying that asap.

Besides the prophecies CE was limited, and for almost 3 years ago when GW didnt have as much players it was enough.
I'm really aware of that, but the argument on the BMP topics was almost the same, if I, at the time of the sale, were aware of the benefits of the BMP I would have bought it without thinking it twice.

I mean, the people who got it from the promotion didn't even knew that there were weapons coming, but still they bought it because they (we?) thought it was worth the money, regardless the benefits.

So, you got your divine aura, and I'm cool with that because it is supposed to be special, and anet took that feeling from the people who got BMP first

Icey

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

haha, I am very happy because i was very disappointed when I found out I couldn't get it when I found out of it. I sent Anet an angry email telling them how unfair it was to have sold limited an item with special skills during times when not everyone heard of it or had an opportunity to get it. I am assuming many people sent in angry emails which caused them to re-release it

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Any insult to an individual or the community as a whole will be deleted. Please stay on topic and contributing.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by SirJackassIII
Either way would work really, but "bonus" sounds better...
Reading Comprehension is win.
You buy the games - YOU DO NOT GET THE BMP WITH THEM. Therefore it's not in addition WITH them, but FOR them.

Icey

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc
JUST AS MANY PEOPLE PREDICTED!

Next prediction(s):

1.) We will see this kind of "packs" in GW2 as well
2.) Maybe also one more in GW1?


If each of this packs is going to cost 10 bucks and offer this or that special, be prepared for a nasty future.

Other games cover their content upgrades with the monthly fee - see EVE, doing the most massive content upgrades of them all for free.

WoW has a fee and charges for new expansions almost full price, dropping later to less than half of a normal full price game.

1.) Guild Wars had full-price stand-alone chapters.
2.) GW:EN was salvaged content for almost full price.
3.) The BMP costs 10 bucks for 4 missions and a weapon skin collection plus video sequences.

4.) GW2 ...?


I see it coming! And they can say WE ASKED FOR IT. Funny...^^
I don't really mind that because it's still better than having to pay the monthly fee, plus people can still play even if they don't buy those packages. Besides, GW has better looking graphics than WOW, which is the main reason I prefer GW over WOW.


Oh btw, WOW also charges for expansions, the monthly fee doesn't cover that.Their latest expansion is around 60 bucks.

Proff

Proff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by pygar
WOOO!!! Kaloo-kalay Happy Day, Happy Day!!

will be buying mine as soon as possible!!

And how is this a waste for anybody? if I was eligible for the promo the first time i would have gotten in on it, but it was closed by the time I started, so no bonus for buying all the expansions for me....now I have all the expansions, I would actually be kind of hosed if they made it a promo like it was last time, and would have to buy the unlock packs or worse something non-GW to qualify. Those of you griping need to realize you spent 30 bucks buying the expansions (or whatever) and u got the BMP for free, I spent all the same money on GW expansions y'all did but have to pay another 10 to get the BMP I have so desperatly wanted to get ever since starting the game, about a week after they closed the first BMP offer.

Really, the complaining here sounds like more "aww, now other people have the cool stuff too- i hate you A-net" jive to me. People get so jealous in this game.
The weapon aren't the point, the point is I have to pay 100k +XX ecto for a Kuunavang because I didn't play GW then, so you shouldn't be able to get the BMP, because guess what? You didn't play when it was out either.

There's tons of mini's I COULDN'T get because I didn't have gw, or if I had gw I could argue I was taking a brake from it, or my computer was broken, or didn't have internet or the money, hell I can complain that I didnt have gw or wasn't in asia for the mini's either, but I don't because there was a start for the promotion and an end. This one because of a couple complaints gets reopened and not just that, they get a discount for it.

So now took the money from everyone that bought character slots, and see an oppertunity to make a quick buck by selling the bmp to everyone and take it.

In the end it doen't matter cause no one with decent looking weapons is ever going to use the ones of the bmp cause apart from a couple they look terrible, and in a couple weeks will go the way of nf greens and be a cheap replacement for the hero weapons hero's come with.

Shadow Spirit

Shadow Spirit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Chicago

your cat eats dog food [pup]

N/E

I'll chalk this up as a lesson learned...

I won't be participating in anymore limited, exclusive offers from A-Net. I'll just wait for all the epic whining to finish and buy the thing later for 20 bucks cheaper...

Kula

Kula

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

West Coast, USA

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feminist Terrorist
Even if you ask, you're not guaranteed to get the truth/final word on the subject. Anet is happy to say one thing and later, to do something different.
From the response of this BMP fiasco, it does come across that way. But I haven't been following their announcements all the time so I wouldn't know.

Off Topic:

BTW, Anet should change the name of their "mission bonus" to "mission optional", because according to some online dictionary that tyla salanari linked to, the mission "bonus" and the extra rewards it comes with should be "given to us" along with every completed mission. lol

KingKryton

KingKryton

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

New Zealand

W/Mo

wewt, charr weapons here i come

Mulkor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Portugal

Blades Of Burning Shadows [GoDT]

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Thank You ANET.
Now, I want the GuildWars: Eye of the North retail box I didn't buy so I could have this "Bonus" Mission Pack that was only going to be available for people who purchased 27€ or more in the store until October '07. Yes, because the only reason I bought gwen online was the BMP that now is for sale for a price I wouldn't mind paying for, if I knew it would become available to everyone. I want my GWEN box.