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Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

10 Jan 2008 at 21:26 - 121

Quote:

Originally Posted by pygar

lol.....the box, you can have mine.....amazingly i still have it even though i usually throw them away. (I'm a slob when I have a good game to play)

Some people collect the packaging of things.
Physical content is win.

ajc2123

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

Me/

10 Jan 2008 at 21:27 - 122

I don't see why everyone wanted a box. I'd give mine away to one of you QQers if I didnt have to pay shipping for it.

Eugaet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

US

Righteous Apathy [RA]

10 Jan 2008 at 21:28 - 123

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajc2123

I don't see why everyone wanted a box. I'd give mine away to one of you QQers if I didnt have to pay shipping for it.

I'll pay you to ship it.

EDIT: Only if it's pristine/mint, everything (minus the access key) complete in box.

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

10 Jan 2008 at 21:28 - 124

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turtle222

You feel left out...i feel betrayed...surely you must empathise for my situation.

Okay, than answer this, How do you feel betrayed?? As i said in can understand some people are dissapointed in this matter but i would love to hear why that is.

Yes i felt left out and honestly now that you mentioned it, betrayed as well for not having the luxury to get the bmp at first, but how does this news affect you?

Icey

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

10 Jan 2008 at 21:29 - 125

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyla salanari

You seem to be avoiding the main argument.
That we missed out on the box and we wasted money on it.

Well, who's fault is it that you didn't get a box? Are boxes unavailable? Are they impossible to get? If you wanted a box so bad, you should've gone to a store that sold them in boxes. Did somebody force you to waste money? It's YOUR fault, not Anets or anybody else. Buy an empty box from ebay if you like boxes so much SEESH!

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Oh, what am i a fortune teller?
I couldn't predict the future.
It was all a guessing game.

Anet most likely decided to sell them again due to consumer demand and massive emails, nobody knows the future, but EVERY business moves to market demands.

And to be very honest, I kinda had a feeling they would end up selling the BMP sometime in the future because it is VERY predictable that many people would have a demand for it, seeing how many NPC's where in town's for the BMP's.

People complaining are just looking for reasons to be upset because they wanted to be special and better than others. They can't come up with any good reason, so they come up with anything that they can think of, such as "I WANTED A BOX!"

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

10 Jan 2008 at 21:30 - 126

You know what the irony in all this is?
All the complaints about how the BMP was just an online promotion had JUST started settling down, and was basically water under the bridge.

Anet definitely opened the door on this one. Regardless, I myself am content with the general content anet has been providing (doing the bmp in the first place, the contests, updating the ice crown, design-a-weapon weapons should be rolling out soon, mini polar bear even if i couldn't get it, etc..)

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

10 Jan 2008 at 21:31 - 127

This is a good and fair solution. Price isn't too steep, so I'll be getting the BMP. Thanks for listening once again, ANet.

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

10 Jan 2008 at 21:31 - 128

How many of you will not participate in any future promotion of Anet now that they have offered the BMP to everyone for a retail price much cheaper than the original offer.

I for one, shall not...I shall wait for people to whine and complain, and reap the benefits when Anet caves in.

It's a creul world apparently.

blood4blood

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

10 Jan 2008 at 21:31 - 129

The problem here isn't whether the BMP is available, it's perceived deception in Anet's advertisments about the BMP that made it appear exclusive and a "now-or-never" deal. I'm not going to bother researching all that was said in those advertisements to see if it actually rises to the level of fraud in the inducement. Whether or not it does, it's clear that many (former?) customers feel that way, and the consequences are obvious.

pygar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

KORM

R/Mo

10 Jan 2008 at 21:32 - 130

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icey

And to be very honest, I kinda had a feeling they would end up selling the BMP sometime in the future because it is VERY predictable that many people would have a demand for it, seeing how many NPC's where in town's for the BMP's.

It was actually walking past the NPCs in the big towns that used to bum me out the most about not having BMP.

Elisa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

Crystal Gladiators

W/Me

10 Jan 2008 at 21:33 - 131

Quote:

Originally Posted by blood4blood

The problem here isn't whether the BMP is available, it's perceived deception in Anet's advertisments about the BMP that made it appear exclusive and a "now-or-never" deal. I'm not going to bother researching all that was said in those advertisements to see if it actually rises to the level of fraud in the inducement. Whether or not it does, it's clear that many (former?) customers feel that way, and the consequences are obvious.

Hear, hear! That's exactly how we feel.

Eugaet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

US

Righteous Apathy [RA]

10 Jan 2008 at 21:35 - 132

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icey

People complaining are just looking for reasons to be upset because they wanted to be special and better than others. They can't come up with any good reason, so they come up with anything that they can think of, such as "I WANTED A BOX!"

No, seriously. I want the box and all included contents. And that's it.

Honestly, I think this would be worse to me than if they started selling the Divine Aura. You're obviously not a collector.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

10 Jan 2008 at 21:36 - 133

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icey

Well, who's fault is it that you didn't get a box? Are boxes unavailable? Are they impossible to get? If you wanted a box so bad, you should've gone to a store that sold them in boxes. Did somebody force you to waste money? It's YOUR fault, not Anets or anybody else. Buy an empty box from ebay if you like boxes so much SEESH!

Once again: people collect stuff like this.
And once again: it isn't my fault.
And once again: I am not a fortune teller
And once again: i wanted the BMP

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Anet most likely decided to sell them again due to consumer demand and massive emails, nobody knows the future, but EVERY business moves to market demands.

Yes, buisnesses move to market demands, but not as destroying as this.
They got rid of the possibilities of more promotions/bonuses.
Therefore taking away their own moneymaking schemes.
Once again: they should of sold BMP advertised as 'Mission Pack' on the online store solely so there will be no QQ.

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And to be very honest, I kinda had a feeling they would end up selling the BMP sometime in the future because it is VERY predictable that many people would have a demand for it, seeing how many NPC's where in town's for the BMP's.

Yes, and many people wouldn't have demand for it.
Ofcourse it would cause QQ, but on both sides equally, and now it has been released so badly, the QQ will never end reguardless.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icey

People complaining are just looking for reasons to be upset because they wanted to be special and better than others. They can't come up with any good reason, so they come up with anything that they can think of, such as "I WANTED A BOX!"

Like you can't come up with an argument but "I WANTED THE BOX"?
Having these weapons doesn't make you any better.
Having these weapons don't make you special.
They were a bonus to the promotion....as BMP was anyway.
And it was a limited offer.

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

10 Jan 2008 at 21:36 - 134

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turtle222

How many of you will not participate in any future promotion of Anet now that they have offered the BMP to everyone for a retail price much cheaper than the original offer.

I for one, shall not...I shall wait for people to whine and complain, and reap the benefits when Anet caves in.

It's a creul world apparently.

How is it cheaper now? It didn't cost me anything to get it. It was a bonus for making another purchase that I wanted.

I D E L E T E D I

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

[BAAA] guest me NOW

Mo/

10 Jan 2008 at 21:37 - 135

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickmonty

How is it cheaper now? It didn't cost me anything to get it. It was a bonus for making another purchase that I wanted.

You could have gotten that other purchase cheaper somewhere else?

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

10 Jan 2008 at 21:37 - 136

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Presler

Okay, than answer this, How do you feel betrayed?? As i said in can understand some people are dissapointed in this matter but i would love to hear why that is.

Yes i felt left out and honestly now that you mentioned it, betrayed as well for not having the luxury to get the bmp at first, but how does this news affect you?

indeed i shall answer. You see...I, like many others, wanted the box to complete my collection of GW. Thus i made a sacrifice to not only give up the box, but also pay $10 extra for the BMP (i can get it WAY cheaper from normal stores but i shan't get into that). Anet specifically stated that they will not rerelease this content...and those that qualify can reap the rewards. Many people assumed the BMP was going to be terrible (if you don't believe me, search). I stood my ground and supported Anet. I knew this was going to be something good. Now that Anet has revealed its surprise...a flashy set of weapons...there was a QQ uproar. Anet offered this again...making me...a person who wanted to buy the box and wait a few months to see the majority's reaction to it to risk it and go for it. That is why i feel betrayed.

Besides...Anet did not offer any other items back did they? Should i create a topic about feeling left out of the CE edition extra material because i thought it wasn't worth it at first and now its great?

Icey

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

10 Jan 2008 at 21:38 - 137

Quote:

Originally Posted by pygar

It was actually walking past the NPCs in the big towns that used to bum me out the most about not having BMP.

Exactly! Not a day went by when I didn't see several people in towns talking about how sad they felt that they missed out on the BMP. I was one of them. Now everyone can participate, which makes me happy. Anet did a good move by selling the BMP, it would had been a very bad practice not to sell it and have taunting NPC's in outposts.

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

10 Jan 2008 at 21:38 - 138

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

It's truly pathetic that ANet caved in.

Cave in?
They didnt do it cus of whinning, its becasuse of the money this will make

.

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

10 Jan 2008 at 21:40 - 139

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickmonty

How is it cheaper now? It didn't cost me anything to get it. It was a bonus for making another purchase that I wanted.

buying from the online store was considerably higher than buying from a local store etc. i could have bought GWEN for a cheaper price...plus this BMP i would save about 10 bucks

Kynareth Adeus

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

D/Mo

10 Jan 2008 at 21:41 - 140

About damn time is all I can say. I swear, to all of those people QQing about this, I have a few things to say:
-You got it free
-It was blatantly obvious that they'd pull this
-I can't stand the brand of elitism that follows those who act as though ripped off.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

10 Jan 2008 at 21:42 - 141

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icey

Anet did a good move by selling the BMP, it would had been a very bad practice not to sell it and have taunting NPC's in outposts.

The whole concept of promotion on the BMP was a bad move.
This was also a bad move.
They could of avoided the QQ by simply selling it without any promotion and calling it the 'mission pack'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kynareth Adeus

About damn time is all I can say. I swear, to all of those people QQing about this

I said things on the Sell Seperate Petition too to the QQers.

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I have a few things to say:
-You got it free

Once again: we didn't, it costed less on retail GW:EN.

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-It was blatantly obvious that they'd pull this

Actually, judging from there being QQing both sides of it, i believed otherwise. And i think others felt the same.

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-I can't stand the brand of elitism that follows those who act as though ripped off.

Well we did get ripped off? And betrayed?

Icey

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

10 Jan 2008 at 21:44 - 142

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugaet

No, seriously. I want the box and all included contents. And that's it.

Honestly, I think this would be worse to me than if they started selling the Divine Aura. You're obviously not a collector.

Actually, you're wrong about me, I have all three collectors edition of Guild Wars, and two unopened collectors edition of Nightfall and Factions. I've been trying to purchase another collectors editions of prophecies but don't want to pay $500 for one. Eventually I will buy that one though. I have all Guild Wars games except the BMP which I didn't have the opportunity because I didn't play GW during the promotion, otherwise I would had bought it. And guess what? If I had bought it back then, and then found out they were going to sell it in stores, I'd buy that too! Specially if the box meant alot to me! Besides, it's only $10 bucks! It's not like its $39-$50! $10 bucks is like 2 gallons of gas, or cheaper than even a movie ticket! Buying it online saved you the trip and the gas! so just pay the $10 bucks and get the box! Just pretend the $10 was shipping costs...

ajc2123

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

Me/

10 Jan 2008 at 21:44 - 143

What made me feel most strongly about getting it again, was this was playable content, not the weapons. Weapons and divine aura i can understand being a one time thing, but not playable content. Also i have no idea what some of you are saying where it was cheaper in stores. It was the same exact price where i was, except i had to pay tax + gas money to and from where i got it, and for what, a box? Although now i have to find a way to get it online....guess ill borrow a friends credit card or something. If he will let me >_>

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

10 Jan 2008 at 21:44 - 144

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickmonty

How is it cheaper now? It didn't cost me anything to get it. It was a bonus for making another purchase that I wanted.

Exactly, someone with common sense!

The BMP was always FREE!

Now its gonna cost me around 9 euro's, which is totally worth it, considering the Eye of the north pre release was only 5 euro and 3 weapons in it, this is a great deal because you have a sick ammount of weapons available now and i hope some very cool missions, i dont know anything about the missions so leave the spoilers ^^

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turtle222

indeed i shall answer. You see...I, like many others, wanted the box to complete my collection of GW. Thus i made a sacrifice to not only give up the box, but also pay $10 extra for the BMP (i can get it WAY cheaper from normal stores but i shan't get into that). Anet specifically stated that they will not rerelease this content...and those that qualify can reap the rewards. Many people assumed the BMP was going to be terrible (if you don't believe me, search). I stood my ground and supported Anet. I knew this was going to be something good. Now that Anet has revealed its surprise...a flashy set of weapons...there was a QQ uproar. Anet offered this again...making me...a person who wanted to buy the box and wait a few months to see the majority's reaction to it to risk it and go for it. That is why i feel betrayed.

Besides...Anet did not offer any other items back did they? Should i create a topic about feeling left out of the CE edition extra material because i thought it wasn't worth it at first and now its great?

Okay so its mostly about the box then, why dont you go get it afterall? i mean seriously its only 10 bucks, and you could give the BMP to a friend or good guild mate, i quite understand your story, and i like boxes to but now is the offer to go after and all i can say is go for it anyway.

You shouldnt need to create a thread about the CE's though, the first one is very rare now but i can still find factions CE and nightfall CE pretty quick, oh and i bought prophecies and factions first to begin, after i found out the CE's i did buy them because those are just plain awesome, yes i already payed for gw and on top of that another 140 euros just to get prophecies and factions ce, nightfall was a direct CE purchase though.

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

10 Jan 2008 at 21:45 - 145

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turtle222

buying from the online store was considerably higher than buying from a local store etc. i could have bought GWEN for a cheaper price...plus this BMP i would save about 10 bucks

You can buy character slots at a retail store?

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickmonty

How is it cheaper now? It didn't cost me anything to get it. It was a bonus for making another purchase that I wanted.

Don't ass u me

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

10 Jan 2008 at 21:48 - 146

I have a better solution:

1. Give a character slot to people with BMP access, for FREE.
2. Release BMP for everybody, for FREE.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

10 Jan 2008 at 21:48 - 147

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Presler

The BMP was always FREE!

Again: it wasn't...
GW:EN costed less on retail, therefore costing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

I have a better solution:

1. Give a character slot to people with BMP access, for FREE.
2. Release BMP for everybody, for FREE.

I only think this would cause more QQ to be honest.

At Witchblade: I think your post was kind of fuel for this argument...i seriously and undoubtably want this argument to stop...

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

10 Jan 2008 at 21:49 - 148

oh well, BMP was cool, then everybody got it

Icey

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

10 Jan 2008 at 21:50 - 149

Quote:

Originally Posted by I D E L E T E D I

You could have gotten that other purchase cheaper somewhere else?

There is ALWAYS somewhere cheaper for EVERYTHING!

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

10 Jan 2008 at 21:51 - 150

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyla salanari

Again: it wasn't...
It costed less on retail, therefore costing.

The BMP was FREE (look up the definition of 'free')

It wasn't offered for retail purchase at the time.

pygar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

KORM

R/Mo

10 Jan 2008 at 21:51 - 151

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

I have a better solution:

1. Give a character slot to people with BMP access, for FREE.
2. Release BMP for everybody, for FREE.

I really don't mind the 10 bucks. The people that make the game should be rewarded for creating the extra content. (From what i see they work pretty hard for a company that doesn't charge a monthly fee us to play their game)

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

10 Jan 2008 at 21:51 - 152

yippie.. one best thing of Anet I've heard for a long time yet.
When the improve now only finally the online store for european countries to the Amazon payment system...by simmple paying with Online Banking System..it would be perfect.

Then needs only Anet to give us an adress, we need to send our transfers to..and finish..rest of the work do then our banks.
Also with different kinds of money there is no problem with online banking, because the bank of anet will change all kinds of incoming different money to the kind of money anet's wishs in the correct trade value.

Say wwe make now some transvers and pay with our Euro's... but Naet wants to have US Dollar on their bank account...than will all incoming other kinds of money be exchanged into US Dollar.

When Online Bankign will become finally "normal" to the online store.. then I'll scream cause of happyness, then I say finally hello to the online store and be able, to buy more character slots, the bmp, and some other things, hopefully someday then also these little preorder packs which I'm missing, for the special items, like especially the Icy Soul Breaker Scythe...still one of the most best lookign scythes of all and i want it so badly for my Derv, but i couldn't preorder it, cause it was so extreme quick sold out ...

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

10 Jan 2008 at 21:53 - 153

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickmonty

The BMP was FREE (look up the definition of 'free')

GW:EN costed more on retail therefore BMP wasn't free, it costed more on the online store obviously FOR the BMP. (GW:EN + BMP)

Quote:

It wasn't offered for retail purchase at the time.

Bad wording on the retail purchase bit: i ment GW:EN, i will fix.

Eugaet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

US

Righteous Apathy [RA]

10 Jan 2008 at 21:54 - 154

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icey

Actually, you're wrong about me, I have all three collectors edition of Guild Wars, and two unopened collectors edition of Nightfall and Factions. I've been trying to purchase another collectors editions of prophecies but don't want to pay $500 for one. Eventually I will buy that one though. I have all Guild Wars games except the BMP which I didn't have the opportunity because I didn't play GW during the promotion, otherwise I would had bought it. And guess what? If I had bought it back then, and then found out they were going to sell it in stores, I'd buy that too! Specially if the box meant alot to me! Besides, it's only $10 bucks! It's not like its $39-$50! $10 bucks is like 2 gallons of gas, or cheaper than even a movie ticket! Buying it online saved you the trip and the gas!

$10 for 2 gallons of gas? Jeez, glad I don't live there.

Just as you have the opportunity to now buy the BMP (which, as a collector, I was collecting), I would like the opportunity to buy the box. We both missed out on something different and now we both want it.

So, we're both collectors. I'm not sure why you're arguing against me. If I had known I'd have the opportunity to buy the BMP later, I would have bought the box first instead.

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

10 Jan 2008 at 21:54 - 155

OUCH!
In your face!

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

10 Jan 2008 at 21:55 - 156

sigh...been doing that a lot lately with the things anet has been doing.

But at least now my hubby might buy it for himself (so he can stop ooogling my weapons...)

milan

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

BONE

N/

10 Jan 2008 at 21:55 - 157

I'm really happy that the people who truly missed out on the BMP now have a chance to experience the missions and yes, the weapons. It's nice that you can play it now.

However, I am a tad annoyed at the way the promotion was worded, the evasive manner in which questions were answered (or ignored) about the promotion while it was on, and the about turn that has taken place.

I wasn't too worried about the BMP myself, I bought extra items in the online store, stuff I didn't really need to support Anet because they had this exclusive thing going on.

I should have just saved my money, could have saved nearly 2/3 of what I spent (3 char slots - 2 still not used) to get the bmp.

I won't stop playing GW simply because it's not costing me money to, but sure as hell I won't be buying anything else from Anet, GW related or not.

Kula

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

West Coast, USA

Mo/E

10 Jan 2008 at 21:56 - 158

Ok, so the promotion is that it will be for sale in retail stores, just not actually "on sale". This "bonus" content in stores will definitely "promote" GW players who missed out to play these extra missions. Good for them.

The fact that it will also be for sale online is not much to holler about. Many want the box.

-

To be honest, I didn't think they would've announced it this so soon, maybe 'til the end of February at the earliest. Kind of a bad move to offer it this early when the wounds are still a bit tender. It's likely to lead to a scar for some Anet supporters. Oh well.

ajc2123

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

Me/

10 Jan 2008 at 21:56 - 159

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosyfiep

sigh...been doing that a lot lately with the things anet has been doing.

But at least now my hubby might buy it for himself (so he can stop ooogling my weapons...)

Hahahahahahhaa

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

10 Jan 2008 at 21:56 - 160

Quote:

Originally Posted by pygar

The people that make the game should be rewarded for creating the extra content. (From what i see they work pretty hard for a company that doesn't charge a monthly fee us to play their game)

They already got the money for BMP. If they want REAL money, they could make a new GW1 campaign.