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Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

Ancient Warriors Gaming Clan

W/Mo

10 Jan 2008 at 23:43 - 241

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zehnchu

They really don't need to sell content like the BMP, how do you think they got the money to make the game in the first place?

what are you saying then?
something as "small" as the BMP should be offered for free?
well, in that case Sorrows Furnance update should have been offered for a price then, i mean its a lot bigger than the BMP.

just as they "dont need to" sell content beyond the core thats offered with the main games, they "dont need to" design any more extra content that may be given for free or may be sold for a price.

there are games that offer stuff to buy from their stores, like oblivion, where you can buy an armor for your horse for like $5.

Proff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

10 Jan 2008 at 23:51 - 242

Quote:

Originally Posted by ensoriki

People bought Iphones for 800 dollars was it?
Then apple dropped the price about 2 months after its release
People bought the PS3 for 800 now its 400 to 500
Same with xbox360
Same with the latest technology like graphics card and motherboards

OMFG I got it first...the price has to stay the same
Why is it 9$'s now T_T

Expect price drops whenever your a first release buyer

That is all.

It wasn't spend 800 dollars and get a free Iphone, nor was it spend 800$ and get a free PS3.

Half the people that paid online paid to get the bmp not an over-priced expansion, and anyone not being able to buy it is just bs. You had 2 months to come up with 30$, if I can get it in the middle-east it shouldn't be much trouble to get it in europe or the us.

And that a company needs to make money, sure it's true but there are other ways of doing it. They have more sources of income than just campaign releases, and shouldn't have to pull this shit to get a couple bucks off of us.

There's ways a company should treat it's customers and there's ways it shouldn't, sadly this is the latter.

Now, that is all.

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

10 Jan 2008 at 23:52 - 243

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Knightfall

Haha the slups that paid out the nose for soemthing they THOUGHT was exclusive now have just brown stuff left on their noses. hahahahahaaha I got GWEN for less than $20 in a store, got the BOX and a nice MAP and all kinds of goodies in the box and just waited this out. I expected NCsoft to pull some crap like this and I was right though I really didn't want them to I knew they would do it "for the money" eventually and screw everyone that bought through their store. I saved $20 overall while others paid through the nose. hahahaha

If I want something and have the money I buy it. I don't wait for it to go on sale. I'd rather have it and enjoy it sooner.

Bought a new vehicle last year. I could have waited till now and bought the same vehicle cheaper, but I've been enjoying it all this time.

My only counter to your childish insults is to say that different people do things differently. Your way is neither right nor wrong. It's your choice. Don't make assinine comments towards others who do things differently.

Mac Sidewinder

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

10 Jan 2008 at 23:57 - 244

I also could care less if more people have access to the BMP. To me it's not an "elitism issue" but simply a bad marketing issue. When all the questions were asked if the BMP was going to be sold seperately, Anet was very careful about what they said. They never came right out and let everybody know that this might be available in the future. As a matter of fact they went the opposite way instead by how their wording on the login page and store website read.

My issue is one of trust. Participate in future promotions? Buy from the online store? I think not. I will just wait and see from now on and get it cheaper from a retail store.

Corwin_Andros

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

W/E

11 Jan 2008 at 00:00 - 245

Well I for one have two copies of GW:EN. One I got from a retail store for $39.99 plus tax.. came out to around $43. I got that one for my son's account. My copy came for the in-game store. It cost me $35 due to my having the pre-release pack (which I didn't even buy in the in-game store). So for me, my copy of GW:EN was cheaper than the retail box, PLUS I got the BMP for free.. I considered it to be a pretty sweet deal.

I wasn't particularly worried about the box itself. I have one of them.. along with all the other boxes for 2 full accounts and 1 that has NF and Proph on it. Not to mention all of the pre-release boxes. I'm running out of space to be honest.

I'd have likely bought both of those GW:EN copies online if it weren't for the fact that they get touchy about using the same credit card on more than one account. If my son or daughter start playing more, I'll have a chance now to get them each the BMP.

Don't see any issue with this whole deal. I bought stuff as part of a promotion and got a free bit of content. Might do it again if whatever the freebie is strikes my fancy at the time. Glad they are providing it for those that never had the opportunity to get it before for whatever reason.

I do think the best thing they could have done though would have been to as mentioned before... put the pack on sale from the get-go and add it as a freebie for spending $xx in the in-game store. Best all around solution. I'd have done the exact same thing as I did in the first place.

pygar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

KORM

R/Mo

11 Jan 2008 at 00:05 - 246

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proff

It wasn't spend 800 dollars and get a free Iphone, nor was it spend 800$ and get a free PS3.

Half the people that paid online paid to get the bmp not an over-priced expansion, and anyone not being able to buy it is just bs. You had 2 months to come up with 30$, if I can get it in the middle-east it shouldn't be much trouble to get it in europe or the us.

And that a company needs to make money, sure it's true but there are other ways of doing it. They have more sources of income than just campaign releases, and shouldn't have to pull this shit to get a couple bucks off of us.

There's ways a company should treat it's customers and there's ways it shouldn't, sadly this is the latter.

Now, that is all.

I did not have 2 months to get into the BMP promo, I have only been playing for 2 months.....while the BMP isn't the only special promo i've missed it is the one promo i have missed that is actual playable content (missions or stories, whatever) the other promos are toys i can live without.

I guarantee I paid more for boxes I bought at Wal-Mart (40-50 bucks after tax) or whatever than I would have online.

Still think a lot of the people who are mad about the BMP being for sale now are mad for some rather less than acceptable reasons, like not being the only kid on the block with the cool toys anymore.....

Meo Yeong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Canada Eh!

Test

Mo/E

11 Jan 2008 at 00:13 - 247

Hmm I was under the impression that this bonus pack was for only those people that bought the game online and that was the whole point about it.

Anet is constantly doing things to make me not want gw2 but yet I understand they are a company trying to get as much money as possible like majority of greedy corporations.

Note to anet. Wheres my polar bear and when are you going to make lengendary survivor available to old characters :P

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

D/

11 Jan 2008 at 00:32 - 248

GW:EN was ironically more expensive through the on-line store, but when you factor this in it turns out I saved money.

And I got it earlier.

And I had a guarantee I'd get it at all.

No loss. Interesting to note they intend to sell it in box form - not the angle I'd have expected, but I did still expect them to sell it in physical form somehow, even if through magazines. Considering the limited-time nature of magazines, though, and the problems they've had with people stealing codes before, I shouldn't be so surprised.

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

11 Jan 2008 at 00:34 - 249

The funny thing is it seems everyone expects that the majority of people are willing to pay 10 bucks for something barely worth the price. I doubt it'll net that much income for Anet.

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

D/

11 Jan 2008 at 01:08 - 250

I'm not sure it's worth $10 either. I'd feel a little ripped off for that price. But anyway, to some people it's nothing.

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

11 Jan 2008 at 01:16 - 251

Yay! ^^ So buying it. Sad that I missed out on the offer in 07'
Can't wait to play eeet!

;D

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

11 Jan 2008 at 01:21 - 252

Is there really anyone that didn't expect this to happen after the massive number of posts requesting it???

Anet is a buisness, they wish to make money, people were BEGGING to give them money for this. Ofcourse they decided to sell it.

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

11 Jan 2008 at 01:22 - 253

I got it for free, I played my share, I don't even have any BMP weapons because I don't like them that much. This is fine by me, more power and money to Anet for GW2.

Cargan

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Scotland

[ESP]

W/

11 Jan 2008 at 01:25 - 254

This is not good. People put their trust in not being able to get this in the future and complied with the guidelines set out by Anet in order to get this little something special. Now everyone will be able to get this "bonus" by spending less in the ingame store than those who did originally. How paying more for something than you really had to is a bonus I will never know.

The wording of Anet implied that it would be available only during that promotion. I did say in a thread a while ago about the sale of the BMP that I would not mind if they put on the promotion again as a permanent thing to allow others to get it, but to now give it to people who pay less is just a kick in the teeth from a company I had put my trust in. This puts a big black mark against Anet for me.

Note to Anet: next time make a choice on the path you are going to choose when releasing content and make it clear to the customers. Purposefully misleading people to get them to spend more in the ingame store is a very poor tactic. Purposefully misleading people to get money from them is also known as scamming. Surprisingly, people in general don't like that.

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

D/

11 Jan 2008 at 01:31 - 255

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cargan

This is not good. People put their trust in not being able to get this in the future and complied with the guidelines set out by Anet in order to get this little something special. Now everyone will be able to get this "bonus" by spending less in the ingame store than those who did originally. How paying more for something than you really had to is a bonus I will never know.

They won't pay less than I did... pretty much got GW:EN and the BMP for the price of GW:EN. It was slightly more expensive than I could have bought it for at the time, but not US$10 more.

So it was cheaper to buy the two together. If you bought character slots you didn't need, yes, you got a bad deal. The BMP couldn't possibly have been worth the cut-off anyway, though, so the people who got it from character slots should have been more miffed when it came out than now.

Buster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Elona

Clan Eternal Legion

D/W

11 Jan 2008 at 01:42 - 256

It is really amazing how people still complain when so many complained about not being able to access the online store to get the BMP offer. So Anet turns around and listens to everyone that complained and makes the BMP available in retail for only 10 bucks.

If you thought Anet was going to turn around and give the BMP for free you were highly mistaken. I mean it is ok for other companies to charge for extra stuff but when it comes to Anet charging a measly 10 bucks for something people go up in arms over the whole thing. I bet it didn't stop people who are complaining of the BMP from paying 9.99 for extra 3 character slots though.

Hate to say it but only one world comes to mind and that is "spoiled". Guild Wars players are one of the luckiest players when it comes to mmo games. Almost every other mmo charges a monthly fee while Guild Wars does not. It seems that once you start giving people stuff for free they always expect everything to be free. I'm sorry but that is not how the real world works and is totally unrealistic.

Bottom line, if you want the BMP it will be available to you if not then don't buy it. It is as simple as that. The rants and complaints are very childish and immature.

Stark Dynasty

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

UK

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

R/

11 Jan 2008 at 01:54 - 257

I vote this the best thread ever! Taken me 2hrs to read it all - better comedy and drama than anything on TV.

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

11 Jan 2008 at 01:54 - 258

It's funny how when the BMP was released the people who didn't have it were crying about how they couldn't get it while many people who had it were laughing and basically saying "f*** you" to the people who didn't have it.

Seems like now that's all been reversed

Jake_Steel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Portland, OR

The Older Gamers (TOG)

N/Me

11 Jan 2008 at 01:56 - 259

Finally, my mate will be able to get the BMP. she didn't have GW during the promotion (christmas gifts)!

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

11 Jan 2008 at 02:19 - 260

Wow, last time that I take advantage of a "promotion" from Anet. I'm not sorry I got the BMP, but I think it's very poor form misleading people in this way when they thought they were supporting Anet by taking advantage of it during the promotion period. I wouldn't have minded running the promotion again, but simply offering it for sale, imho is just really poor form and a kick in the face to everyone who DID support them.

jon0592

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

11 Jan 2008 at 02:19 - 261

All I can say is:

WOOOOOOO

Now whenever I have characters I don't need to get them greens or stuff...I'll just do BMP for max weapons! pwned.

Kynareth Adeus

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

D/Mo

11 Jan 2008 at 02:27 - 262

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Phantom

It's funny how when the BMP was released the people who didn't have it were crying about how they couldn't get it while many people who had it were laughing and basically saying "f*** you" to the people who didn't have it.

Seems like now that's all been reversed

Exception being that, first time around, whiners were whining because of lack of ability to get something, and thus were, to some degree, pitiable, whether you take that as an offense or not. This time around, though, whiners are whining because of lack of elitism, which isn't really all that pitiable.

I mean, in the end, A-net is a business that seeks to make money. They have some largely unused and already set up content sitting around doing nothing. Would any prudent business not see that as an opportunity?

Besides, those who already have the content really have to see a few things, yet again:
-You got free content. Sure, it's possible that you could have received the content by cheaper means in a few cases, but in reality, you got yourself a pretty good deal, money-wise.
-You got it early. That's another 'cool thing' that adds extra value to something. You were there when it was new and got to participate in all of that whole 'lets find out what you can get' junk and whatnot.

bebe

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

http://tinyurl.com/4g5ueb8

Put the peanut in the peanut hole!

11 Jan 2008 at 02:47 - 263

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelica

Really, I don't care about the BMP being offered now, what I don't like was/is the way they promoted it. They gave the impression that if you did not take the BMP at that time you would miss it.

People cannot read and interpreter every words trying to discover hidden meaning, come on Anet be more clear in the future. I do not wish to have to check every words, like you do before you sign a contract, for every promotions they will offer.

Meh, my trust for them is really low at this moment.

/Angelica

Agreed. ><
Only reason I bought EOTN online was to get BMP.. and now.. I wish I hadn't.. could've had the EoTN box.. >.>

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

11 Jan 2008 at 03:13 - 264

I don't know how to feel about this.
Due to exchange rate (Australians are charged in pounds) I paid just shy of $AU20 MORE to buy EotN in the ingame store. I didn't buy for the BMP - which I'd already qualified for, but rather to actually have access to it when the servers went live. I'd have liked a box, but for me being able to play through at the same time as my guildies was more important.

I am happy for those who, for various reasons, could not buy things in the ingame store. Now they will have access to it.

I question the people who, believing the promotion to be stupid, did not buy in the online store (when they could have), then upon seeing the weapon skins qq'ed about it.

I fully understand the business decision behind this move. I have no qualms with it. But I do wonder what this might open the door for. As a number have already brought up divine aura, special dances, mini-pets? The mini salt-spray dragon was a "thank you gift" for CE buyers who kept their orders when they had to wait so long for their Factions CE. If it suddenly appears in store the "thank you gift" looses it's meaning.

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

11 Jan 2008 at 03:30 - 265

Quote:

Originally Posted by pamelf

Wow, last time that I take advantage of a "promotion" from Anet. I'm not sorry I got the BMP, but I think it's very poor form misleading people in this way when they thought they were supporting Anet by taking advantage of it during the promotion period. I wouldn't have minded running the promotion again, but simply offering it for sale, imho is just really poor form and a kick in the face to everyone who DID support them.

Well, I did not buy the BMP but now that it will be available retail I probably will.

However, I agree with you, even though it would have meant I would not have gotten it, it would have been better to offer it in the same kind of promotion they did before so that everyone was treated fairly.

Course, I don't know, I'm getting so discouraged with ANet's marketing and PR that I might decide I don't really want to give them another 10 bucks.

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

11 Jan 2008 at 03:34 - 266

You can't honestly say you didn't see this coming--it was incredibly blatant that this was a marketing pitch for Eye of the North.

I don't feel strongly about it one way or the other. Marketing is marketing is marketing.

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

11 Jan 2008 at 03:37 - 267

well my 30 dollars just go P0wNed

next "limited" item/thing to be sold from a-net i'll just for it to hit the clearance rack

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

11 Jan 2008 at 03:39 - 268

both arguments aside, I'd say it's definitely NOT worth $10. You'll play the missions maybe twice, and never go back. You are set with a build, and they play exactly the same way, no variability.

another thought: Anet just totally undermined their online store. Special promotions? Lol. It'll be on sale later. And you can buy from retailers for much cheaper. Any special reasons to pay them directly just got shot.

Sir Seifus Halbred

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

11 Jan 2008 at 03:43 - 269

Quote:

and a variety of retail partners located throughout North America and Europe.

Finally i can actually get this! That is if i can find it at a store around here, i hope so.

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

11 Jan 2008 at 03:44 - 270

Quote:

Originally Posted by VitisVinifera

both arguments aside, I'd say it's definitely NOT worth $10. You'll play the missions maybe twice, and never go back. You are set with a build, and they play exactly the same way, no variability.

another thought: Anet just totally undermined their online store. Special promotions? Lol. It'll be on sale later. And you can buy from retailers for much cheaper. Any special reasons to pay them directly just got shot.

Like when they extended the half price pvp skill packs?

Not bad just an example.

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

11 Jan 2008 at 03:50 - 271

They're really trying to shoot themselves in the foot lately.

Gambit Shinobi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Heroes Alliance

A/D

11 Jan 2008 at 05:06 - 272

So many crybabies in here, it's not even funny.

You people who bought from ANet's store got the BMP for "free," AND got the weapons and quests months before everyone else who didn't/couldn't get in on the promotion. ANet the did the right thing by releasing BMP now. Stop bitching about not having exclusive rights to your weapons and quests anymore.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

11 Jan 2008 at 05:21 - 273

Yay, FINALLY available in retailers, so I can ACTUALLY BUY IT!

Quit bitching, those of you who bought yours earlier. Some of us don't like buying stuff off the online store and like getting our hands on a physical package like the way things went back in the day.

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

11 Jan 2008 at 05:25 - 274

Problem is we didn't "buy" it. It was supposed to be a "reward" for using the online store. I personally don't have a problem with the decision, as I would have bought EotN online regardless of the BMP.

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

11 Jan 2008 at 06:22 - 275

Really, I already knew they were going to do this. When they first announced the "promotion" before EotN, I knew they they would eventually sell it on it's own.

Now, unless I'm mistaken, it says nothing about it being available anywhere either than the Online Store, so don't get your hopes up about getting it from a retail store.

Eugaet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

US

Righteous Apathy [RA]

11 Jan 2008 at 06:30 - 276

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kynareth Adeus

This time around, though, whiners are whining because of lack of elitism...

Not true. Go back and read this post. It'll explain the situation to you.

For my part, I'm past the shock and have resigned to the fact that I'll have to buy another copy of GWEN. Or at least buy the box from someone else.

EDIT: OK, checked some of the prior posts. Now I'm not only going to direct Kynareth, but everyone else as well to post 210 in this thread. Jeez, leave for a few hours and the whole point gets lost.

sagilltwins

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2006

Your Mom's House

香港,poke, mad, BECK, nH

A/W

11 Jan 2008 at 06:31 - 277

yay!!! We finally get it!! Boo!! Now the skins are even less special then they already are...

Sea Edge

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Black Eagles [BEG]

W/Me

11 Jan 2008 at 06:47 - 278

Quote:

Reputations, you know.
A lifetime to build, seconds to destroy.

lol, it's so true.

Nomme Moon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

11 Jan 2008 at 07:05 - 279

<3 anet.

Great decision!

rohara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Rt/

11 Jan 2008 at 07:50 - 280

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gambit Shinobi

So many crybabies in here, it's not even funny.

You people who bought from ANet's store got the BMP for "free," AND got the weapons and quests months before everyone else who didn't/couldn't get in on the promotion. ANet the did the right thing by releasing BMP now. Stop bitching about not having exclusive rights to your weapons and quests anymore.

QFT

i bought EoTN through the online store so i could get the BMP. i don't feel ripped off. 1) i got it for "free" and 2) i got it months before it would be available to people who didn't participate in the promotion. good deal, imo.

i know several people who bought EoTN from retailers because they like to have the box and cds, so they missed out on the BMP. they shouldn't be punished for that. i'm particularly excited about this for a guildie, who has been "tortured" by me and other guildies talking about how fun the BMP missions are and how cool the weapon skins are.

i swear, some people in this game aren't happy unless others are denied access to the things they have. how about we focus on equal opportunity content instead of the size of your pvegos, mmmkay? the BMP weapon skins are not special. you can't even trade them, and its not like the missions are hard. the BMP weapons are far, far from being elite/rare.

anyways...the BMP was a fun addition to the game and everyone should be able to buy it. happy to see this happen.