Originally Posted by Coridan
There is one http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?... &oldid=210767
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To me that says buy it during the promotion or tough shit |
BMP for sale
Lonesamurai
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Shai Lee
This is what I posted in the other thread about this, but I'll post it here too since it has more traffic:
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I believe most are upset about: - I pay $29 for GW store stuff I don't want, just to get the $9.99 BMP that I do want (limited time offer, if you don't do it by this date too bad, so people buy so they don't miss out), only to find that now it's being offered for $9.99 -stand alone- (No other $29 need be spent on things you don't want just to get it) - Personally, I think that's what people view as unfair. Those of us that already have it do realize that some had legitimate problems purchasing it the first time due to game store problems, but there are also some that didn't care for it and only cared after they saw the cool weapons. Either way, unhappy people on all sides. - Therefore, if Anet still wants to go ahead with this re-release, then I think that it should at least be done as the original was. You have to buy $29 worth of game store stuff to get the BMP, instead of just a $9.99 stand alone. I look forward to your thoughts. |
pygar
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Originally Posted by Shuuda
TOUGH LUCK, ACCEPT FATE!
Or atleast you should, but A-net caved into the whiners months ago, and chances are they won't this time. My attitude is harsh, but realistic. |
Woop Shotty
Rofl. waste of store shelf space. where are they going to put it? next to the free AOL cds?
Darksun
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Originally Posted by Commander Ryker
We did not pay $40 for the BMP, we paid $40 for GW:EN and got the BMP along with it. A sort of buy one, get one free. So yes, it was free. Quit saying it wasn't.
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Bad choice is a bad choice.
Elisa
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Originally Posted by Darksun
QFT. I got GWEN online. I got the BMP with it. I payed NOTHING for BMP. just because some people made the bad choice of buying 3 unneeded character slots because they "needed" the box doesn't suddenly make the BMP cost $30.
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Coridan
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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
you missed the bold on another part so i added it for you for emphasis of when that was posted
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Jongo River
This is hilarious. I can't believe you guys keep rolling out that "currently no plans" quote as Gailes big lie. It's not even close to a statement of exclusivity, since it clearly implies that they could make plans if they wanted to - and guess what, six months later they have! Woohoo, shocker.
I wonder, if some of you ever doubted a partner's commitment to a relationship and they told you they had no current plans to leave you - would that put your minds at rest?
I wonder, if some of you ever doubted a partner's commitment to a relationship and they told you they had no current plans to leave you - would that put your minds at rest?
pygar
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Originally Posted by Elisa
I bought GW:EN online and got the BMP with it. GW:EN was over 15 Euros cheaper in a retail store. Quit fooling yourselves.
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Another thing, if all yer bent about is like 10 or 20 bucks.... I spent that much last nite on delivery pizza that sucked, am I mad? not really 10-20 bucks is chump change, wont even hardly buy me a nite at the movies in my neck of the woods.
Kahlindra
I'm happy for the people who either couldn't or just plain didn't bother getting it- this is great for them.
For me, well I bought GWEN the day it came out, I did it on the online store because I wanted the BMP. If I now think about it, compare prices etc. I could work out that I spent an extra 2 or 3 bucks. If I hadn't learned to roll with the loss of that amount of money in life many years ago I would be a pathetic person.
I do feel sorry for those who love the game so much they desperately had to have a cardboard box, and who THEN went out and spent money on character slots and other things they probably didn't need/want because they are completist enough to get the whole set.
But again.... in this life, you will lose some money. Often down the back of furniture.
For me, well I bought GWEN the day it came out, I did it on the online store because I wanted the BMP. If I now think about it, compare prices etc. I could work out that I spent an extra 2 or 3 bucks. If I hadn't learned to roll with the loss of that amount of money in life many years ago I would be a pathetic person.
I do feel sorry for those who love the game so much they desperately had to have a cardboard box, and who THEN went out and spent money on character slots and other things they probably didn't need/want because they are completist enough to get the whole set.
But again.... in this life, you will lose some money. Often down the back of furniture.
VanDamselx
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Originally Posted by pygar
No, you are not realistic...technicaly you are saying companies that make mistakes should stick by them, regardless of customer demand or input. Thats a pretty warped perspective to have just because you dont want other people to get the BMP. I'm tellin ya, the jealousy and player-hate in this game need to go.....and the people on this thread with thinly veiled excuses for why they are mad about the BMP being sold need to be more honest with themselves....you have had the BMP for months and are now mad cuz other people can have it too, diminishing the false sense of individualism you had while you had something the rest of us didnt or couldnt get.
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Ascalon Runner
$9.99 USD seems a bit pricey but it's better than permanently locking new players out of some of the most important historical events in Guild Wars' history. For those of us who spent $29 USD, we got a jump start to BMP so I don't feel cheated in the least. By the way, if you opened a new account through the in game store during the promotion, you've been able to play the Bonus Mission Pack since the end of October.
Darksun
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Originally Posted by Elisa
I bought GW:EN online and got the BMP with it. GW:EN was over 15 Euros cheaper in a retail store. Quit fooling yourselves.
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If someone buys 3 character slots they better not say they payed $30 for the BMP. THAT is fooling yourself.
btw, I find it hard to believe a B&M store would sell GWEN for $11. I guess it's possible, but it sounds below cost.
pygar
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Originally Posted by booooYA
The release of CE bonuses are not mistakes. I'm sorry you weren't around to get them, and now have to pay a fortune for them. Those things actually were LIMITED EDITION. A-Net specifically stated that they were going to release a limited amount and when they were gone, they were gone. The only one hating on this fact seems to be you.
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The only thing I am "hating" on here is really there is no real reason for anybody to be mad at GW selling the BMP, a couple reasons people have posted here are enough to be annoyed with, but not angry about. Really they should just sell all special content in the online store, this jive that the GW community goes thru over limited edition stuff that everybody wants and nobody can get is ridiculous.
Icey
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Originally Posted by Coridan
There is one http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?... &oldid=210767
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To me that says buy it during the promotion or tough shit |
Well if you knew how to read properly, it ACTUALLY says ***AT THIS TIME!**** which means at the time of writing, which ALSO means things COULD change. It NEVER said the BMP would NEVER be sold anywhere else.
VanDamselx
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Originally Posted by pygar
Naw, just happy they changed their mind on BMP....just like I'l be happy if they change their mind on the other offers. A-net specifically said they did not "currently" have plans to do the BMP outside of the original promo, and when somebody tells me "currently" I am smart enough to realize that means later they might change their mind.
The only thing I am "hating" on here is really there is no real reason for anybody to be mad at GW selling the BMP, a couple reasons people have posted here are enough to be annoyed with, but not angry about. Really they should just sell all special content in the online store, this jive that the GW community goes thru over limited edition stuff that everybody wants and nobody can get is ridiculous. |
Esan
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Originally Posted by pygar
Another thing, if all yer bent about is like 10 or 20 bucks.... I spent that much last nite on delivery pizza that sucked, am I mad?
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pygar
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Originally Posted by booooYA
Everybody had a chance to get it upon release. If you weren't around for the release, sorry to hear that. Also, Prophecies CE was like a leap of faith for most, because no one knew GW would be what it had become. It's particularly not fair to those people. Everyone had a chance to get the CE, if you didn't: tough luck.
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The Way Out
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Yes, "In your opinion...", if you were on the side i am, you would of seen the bad points of it...
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When I respond to a flamer... lol... (funny)... I don't consider that flaming. I call that retaliation. Grow up. Is your gameplay going to be any different? Are you going to lose out on anything other than a case, which collects dust anyway? The BMP is just a small part of a good game. Be happy that some people out there can now enjoy it the same way you did. Stop attacking people who care about the game, and the games community. Those hateful and angry remarks are retarded.
Lastly, before you start blasting anet's decisions, you play "their" game for free every month. It costs a lot of money to provide you with free gameplay. And personally, I think they do a great job with providing top-notch and free quality service. Their game rocks... and I want to support the continuation of it. I stand behind their decisions entirely, unless they nerf a skill I like and I complain about them, like I do about a sibling. I love GW... and if you don't... play "Hello Kitty Island Adventure".
This is a game.
=DNC=Trucker
Eh, 10 bucks huh? There's going to be even more whining when they finally get it and realize they wasted $9.50
Oukanna
To be honest im not to bothered that they put it up for sale, i needed extra char slots and i bought bonus weapons for my heroes. After those it's kinda like getting the BMP for free and before a lot of other people.
I know some of you are miffed because you wanted to be special and have it all to yourselves to show off the end weapons to people who couldnt get it, but thats life i guess.
You really thought, they would never put it up for sale in the end? I think before gw2, they will put a lot more up for sale, even perhaps the CE dances, just to roll in the cash before they leave gw1 behind and start with gw2.
Its logical when you think about it.
I know some of you are miffed because you wanted to be special and have it all to yourselves to show off the end weapons to people who couldnt get it, but thats life i guess.
You really thought, they would never put it up for sale in the end? I think before gw2, they will put a lot more up for sale, even perhaps the CE dances, just to roll in the cash before they leave gw1 behind and start with gw2.
Its logical when you think about it.
Turtle222
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Originally Posted by pygar
No, you are not realistic...technicaly you are saying companies that make mistakes should stick by them, regardless of customer demand or input. Thats a pretty warped perspective to have just because you dont want other people to get the BMP. I'm tellin ya, the jealousy and player-hate in this game need to go.....and the people on this thread with thinly veiled excuses for why they are mad about the BMP being sold need to be more honest with themselves....you have had the BMP for months and are now mad cuz other people can have it too, diminishing the false sense of individualism you had while you had something the rest of us didnt or couldnt get.
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That is not the reason. Shuuda posted his suggestion just to show you what was plainly obvious. people thought the BMP was going to be utter tripe and didn't participate. Yet when the surprise set of weapons came along with it, we had 100000 unmerged topics do deal with. Anet caved in, and also made dough out of it. Clever thinking for short term...but bad in the longterm.
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Eli Rela
I think this is not a point of wasted $2-$5-$10 or $30... it is a matter of principal. ANEt is asking us to NEVER use exploits, never cheat, ban ppl for smallest infractions and themself made a huge misrepresentation and false advertisement and we have to let them go?? NO F WAY!! Release the hounds!!
Get the pitchforks... *khm* lawyers!!!
Get the pitchforks... *khm* lawyers!!!
flclisgreat
ok kinda mad that i bougth gwen from the in game store. [sarcasm]cost the same yet no box? alright sounds like a deal to me! [/sarcasm]
thanks for caving Anet. should have stuck by it and let no one have it
thanks for caving Anet. should have stuck by it and let no one have it
pygar
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Originally Posted by Turtle222
your retarded comments make me laugh. How about i utilise the same strategy? You are gay. You veil your homosexuality with perverted comments towards women. You have been gay for months, and are now mad "cuz" other people found out, diminishing the false sense of individualism you had while you were gay. c wut i did thar?
That is not the reason. Shuuda posted his suggestion just to show you what was plainly obvious. people thought the BMP was going to be utter tripe and didn't participate. Yet when the surprise set of weapons came along with it, we had 100000 unmerged topics do deal with. Anet caved in, and also made dough out of it. Clever thinking for short term...but bad in the longterm. /thread |
And as for the decision being "bad in the longterm", no the decision will be mere trivia that hardly matters to most of us in a couple months. I dont care if you spent several hundred dollars buying somebody elses account to get BMP, you made that decision and no, you are not being ripped off because now you can just go buy BMP. Same idea for people who spent hundreds or thousands getting "guitar hero" this x-mas...are they going to feel ripped off when the buzz dies down and you can get the game for a normal price again?
Eugaet
I'm still amazed the anti-elitist people think the issue at hand is elitism.
shoyon456
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Originally Posted by flclisgreat
ok kinda mad that i bougth gwen from the in game store. [sarcasm]cost the same yet no box? alright sounds like a deal to me! [/sarcasm]
thanks for caving Anet. should have stuck by it and let no one have it |
Whatever happened to the old guildwars, where when prot bond was nerfed the complaining was kept to a minimum and anet never changed their stance (and never stopped persecuting the solo monks)?
Anyways, gj anet on helping those who didn't get it, next time theres a "special promotion" im just going to ignore it and rant and whine the day its over. But let me make this clear, I am excited for those who didn't have it before, its just bad publicity for GW2 imo.
pygar
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Originally Posted by Eugaet
I'm still amazed the anti-elitist people think the issue at hand is elitism.
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They just need to get rid of that whole aspect of the game, and let people get back to playing the game for the sake of playing the game.
xReLx
omg, lul @ this topic
The Way Out
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I'm still amazed the anti-elitist people think the issue at hand is elitism.
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Dev121
Shame I cant tolerate this game anymore.
The Way Out
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Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121
Shame I cant tolerate this game anymore.
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lilDeath
I don't know where people get the idea from that the "elitists" want to keep BMP to themselves and that people angry about this decision is being "jealous" and whatever other BS someone wants to come up with.
Do not generalise or even think you know others. You don't.
It is simple for me. ANet messed with my bread and butter. I don't let ANYONE mess with my livelihood.
Anet's deal was to spend a certain amount of money to qualify for the BMP. Well, wtf must I buy? I have everything. There is nothing I need. ALL skills were unlocked. I had all CE's and chapters. All I could buy were char slots. $30 worth.
So, I spent the money 'cause BMP sounded nice and I thought I'd like it AND it was a limited offer (after all).
NOW, the GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOREDers come and sell the thing for 1/3 of the price. It pisses me off! I haven't even had time to play the darn BMP!
SO, what the hell was the rush to get people to buy it? In my country that is a lot of money. I could have bought it a lot cheaper in our local currency!
I work fracking hard for my money, don't come and fk with my money! If I had money to waste, I'd play WoW, or a few other pay-to-play MMO's.
When you say something ANet, mean it! I have nothing but DISrespect and DIStrust for ANet right now. I cannot believe them. I loathe them.
In the end, it's just another money-making scheme for them. That's all it is, just a Business. To hell with the community and having some integrity. Nice.
/rant
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the people that missed it or new guys being able to buy it now. That's not the issue for me.
So, enjoy.
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Do not generalise or even think you know others. You don't.
It is simple for me. ANet messed with my bread and butter. I don't let ANYONE mess with my livelihood.
Anet's deal was to spend a certain amount of money to qualify for the BMP. Well, wtf must I buy? I have everything. There is nothing I need. ALL skills were unlocked. I had all CE's and chapters. All I could buy were char slots. $30 worth.
So, I spent the money 'cause BMP sounded nice and I thought I'd like it AND it was a limited offer (after all).
NOW, the GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOREDers come and sell the thing for 1/3 of the price. It pisses me off! I haven't even had time to play the darn BMP!
SO, what the hell was the rush to get people to buy it? In my country that is a lot of money. I could have bought it a lot cheaper in our local currency!
I work fracking hard for my money, don't come and fk with my money! If I had money to waste, I'd play WoW, or a few other pay-to-play MMO's.
When you say something ANet, mean it! I have nothing but DISrespect and DIStrust for ANet right now. I cannot believe them. I loathe them.
In the end, it's just another money-making scheme for them. That's all it is, just a Business. To hell with the community and having some integrity. Nice.
/rant
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the people that missed it or new guys being able to buy it now. That's not the issue for me.
So, enjoy.
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Dev121
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Originally Posted by The Way Out
Why is that? Did they delete your characters or close your account?
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I still read the forums thou incase anything amazing happens, this was entertaining to see all the ranters from the orginal threads get abit wound up but then I relised it doesnt matter, its a game.
Lord Sojar
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Originally Posted by lilDeath
I don't know where people get the idea from that the "elitists" want to keep BMP to themselves and that people angry about this decision is being "jealous" and whatever other BS someone wants to come up with.
Do not generalise or even think you know others. You don't. It is simple for me. ANet messed with my bread and butter. I don't let ANYONE mess with my livelihood. Anet's deal was to spend a certain amount of money to qualify for the BMP. Well, wtf must I buy? I have everything. There is nothing I need. ALL skills were unlocked. I had all CE's and chapters. All I could buy were char slots. $30 worth. So, I spent the money 'cause BMP sounded nice and I thought I'd like it AND it was a limited offer (after all). NOW, the GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOREDers come and sell the thing for 1/3 of the price. It pisses me off! I haven't even had time to play the darn BMP! SO, what the hell was the rush to get people to buy it? In my country that is a lot of money. I could have bought it a lot cheaper in our local currency! I work fracking hard for my money, don't come and fk with my money! If I had money to waste, I'd play WoW, or a few other pay-to-play MMO's. When you say something ANet, mean it! I have nothing but DISrespect and DIStrust for ANet right now. I cannot believe them. I loathe them. In the end, it's just another money-making scheme for them. That's all it is, just a Business. To hell with the community and having some integrity. Nice. /rant Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the people that missed it or new guys being able to buy it now. That's not the issue for me. So, enjoy. ./out |
If enough people called for the removal of Prot Spirit, it would either be removed from the game, or nerfed into oblivion. Tis the way of things. QQ = Woohoo!
genofreek
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Originally Posted by =DNC=Trucker
Eh, 10 bucks huh? There's going to be even more whining when they finally get it and realize they wasted $9.50
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I agree it's not really worth $10; it's completely uncustomizable minus the mods YOU have to get and put on the weapons, and I'm glad I got it as a bonus bundle. I'm still annoyed by how poorly it was handled all around, and I wish they'd just come forward and told us explicity how the deal was going to work in the first place. A simple "Get it now as a bundle, or wait until after Christmas and pay separately" would have been just fine. No physical boxes necessary. I'd have bought it, though not right away since I was in a financial crunch when the bonus was being offered, and had no hard feelings. Now no matter what ANet does, someone's gonna be angry.
The Way Out
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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
I am in the same boat as you, minus one of my accounts. Not pleased about this complete 180 in policy. Unjustified... but alas, whiners always get what they want.
If enough people called for the removal of Prot Spirit, it would either be removed from the game, or nerfed into oblivion. Tis the way of things. QQ = Woohoo! |
So, those that were desperate to have the BMP gave up money and bought character slots. A lot of character slots apparently. Many people who had already forked money over for Eye through (Amazon, Gamestop, Bestbuy, etc...) began to complain that it is unfair to force them to purchase character slots just to access the BMP. Many of those REFUSED to pay the addition money and began to petition Anet. It worked and Anet is releasing a purchasable version of BMP.
In short, Anet is forcing people to buy from them directly. While this is a sound business plan for them, because they get 100% of the profit be eliminating shelf rentals, they planned the release a bit weak and screwed a lot of people on both sides. They are trying to make things right and offer the BMP for short money, and I understand why people that paid $30 for character slots would be upset. However, no one told anyone to do that. I know that sounds harsh, but it is the truth. In addition to that, anet is a company. They need to make money to continue. You don't find it a bit selfish that the game you play all week for free online should "sometimes" cost money so they can continue to support your playing?
I continue to stand by Anet, even if they do not always make the best decisions. Cheer up, ppl. You play a great game.
As for anyone's livelihood. Anet is not the mafia. You were not required to hand them money. They didn't rob you of money. I paid 50+ dollars for Doom 3 and now it costs $19.99. I am not complaining about it. I loved the game and it was worth it at the time. I paid 50+ dollars for each of the campaigns and now they are no longer that price. I am not demanding a refund because that was the price then and it isn't now. That is basic business. There is a depreciation value in any market.
Remember when the NES was $199.99? I think I could pick one up on EBay for 10 bucks. lol...
If this is really bothering you, I suggest you petition Anet. Explain your distaste and ask for reparations. If enough do it, you will probably be awarded something in-game, thereby getting your value worth again. Personally, I don't care about money. I understand that things change. I am sorry so many people are upset over it. Again, I ask that you get your priorities straight.
This is a game. There are "real life" things that warrant your attentions much more.
Please close this thread.
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Kula
^Did anyone actually ask if this was going to happen to the bmp itself? (not the promotion)
If anyone did but could not get a straight answer from ArenaNet, then by default it's safe to say that they were not planning to put the BMP in the "Vault" (a la Disney's moratorium method). Don't just ass-ume.
jezz
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Originally Posted by Eugaet
I'm still amazed the anti-elitist people think the issue at hand is elitism.
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bhavv
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Originally Posted by pygar
No, you are not realistic...technicaly you are saying companies that make mistakes should stick by them, regardless of customer demand or input. Thats a pretty warped perspective to have just because you dont want other people to get the BMP. I'm tellin ya, the jealousy and player-hate in this game need to go.....and the people on this thread with thinly veiled excuses for why they are mad about the BMP being sold need to be more honest with themselves....you have had the BMP for months and are now mad cuz other people can have it too, diminishing the false sense of individualism you had while you had something the rest of us didnt or couldnt get.
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Lots of people want them, gaile said no.
Lots of people wanted BMP, gaile said no.
So no doesnt seem to mean no anymore.