BMP for sale

She never said no to the BMP. Ever.
Also, she isn't incharge of these decisions, only telling us about them.

But if this is true, then it was not marketing, then it was a lie.

XD A pre-searing cadet from LaZy, also.

You people aren't still argueing the 'Gaile said it would never be sold' point, are you?

Well: I believe that this can be....sort of fixed by sending the GW:EN boxing to those who bought GW:EN during the promo - online.
Just a personal opinion anyway, I mean you have to put in your address ect...
But it won't fix the fact that ANet cancelled the chancing of future promotions. People will feel lied to and cheated. And in a way ripped off at that.

I've spent my last penny on ANet. They finally lost me somewhere between their dishonest marketing and their absurd rare minipet distribution schemes.

I played WoW for 3 months, came back to GW...


ON TOPIC: $10 is pretty steep for what it is, I'm glad it was free for me!

Mmm, that's why I don't understand what was up with this marketing ploy in the first place. People keep saying it's all business, it's all about the bottom line. Sure, fudge the definitions, strongly suggest that it'll never be sold again, create a panic. People hurried to qualify for the BMP, and the ones that missed out are sorry now and will hurry to buy it in a month. Great short-term profits, sure, and way to cash in on the "collector" facet of the gaming community, but quite a few people who have spent hundreds on CE, character slots, campaigns, etc. are claiming they feel mislead, betrayed, whatever. And they're done with buying things from Anet.

So, in the long term, IS it worth it? Before this, GW had quite a bit of customer trust and loyalty. The whole way this thing was run feels almost out of character for the company I've come to enjoy.

I'm not quitting, as I've said before, but this has definitely taught me to think twice about jumping on board any more of their offers.

He soiled our alliance's reputation, I guess he's been kicked already.

People will still buy them because they dont understand the fundamental aim of a company : Make LOTSA CASH.

They could give it away and you cant do crap, I reccomend either go play the game or go play orange box, one will bore you and the other will blow your mind, all over your room, then well do anet for murder.

A big thanks here for making the BMP available through retail channels. The €8.99 is a bit on the steep side, but I suspect I'll judge it well worth paying.

My one complaint is that this availability wasn't made clear when the BMP was first announced. Left me with a pretty bad impression for quite a while.

A little obsessed with Orange Box, no? It wasn't even the best FPS released last year, let alone best game.

Hundreds of Secondary Quest? Loads of different types of PvP? or you could just play the whole game again with another character, i do that because i like the Story and it's fun.

It all depends on what you like. I dont like PVP anymore, I only play PVE.

Secondary quests in GW have very little purpose since you can get XP and gold faster from farming. They are extremely boring and qualify as grind.

And I dont really care much about the story. In fact after finishing the game I had no clue what had happened in the story line.

Its so wonderful that people that continue to play GW do so without considering is downfalls. There are are plenty of them, and there are plenty of people leaving the game, yet A-net do nothing to address the main concerns that players have about the game.

Bad company made a good game. Bad company ruined the game and keep on making it worse and worse. This thread and the BMP aquisition is yet another example of this.

And btw, in case a lot of you nubs didnt realise, I thrive off winding you up and making you lose your tempers. Keep it up since so many of you fail at discussing.

Gaile says stuff you know? Its like...her JOB.

yep Gaile says a LOT of stuff.

people who think a "no" or a "yes" or whatever noise coming out of a PR executives mouth actually MEANS anything need to rethink their reality.

next time try to think for yourselves and use a little logic.

Regardless of what was said, the BMP was supposed to be a bonus for buying stuff in the online store, like the CE bonuses are a bonus for buying the CE. If Anets reason to sell the BMP is to make money and not care what the players think, then why not sell the divine aura and /dancenew emotes too?

Coming from someone who has the 3 CE bonuses: I wouldn't mind if Arenanet made them available for purchase again, even unbundled.

I'm glad Arenanet does indeed not care about those that get their joy from seeing others deprived of something they have.

Doesn't seem like you even like this game, why the hell are you here then?

If they started to sell emotes and stuff like that, it would suck. It would make this game in a way like Maple Story and their crappy store where you waste real money on some 2D piece of crap that makes no real use. I hate online games that do that

I bought three character slots so I guess I got the BMP free with only one of them... So I was suckered into buying two character slots I didn't need. Oh well. I like it anyway.

It wasn't free you had to pay $40 plus to get it. I get it for less than $30 total haha. Plus I got a map and goodies plus a nice BOX to store on my shelves. haha You should see this it's gorgeous. haha

Well, It's now official: I won't be buying GW2.
I bought GW:EN online, so I paid more for it and I did not get the box and all the things that come with it. Instead I opted for the "bonus pack". I feel cheated, and I try really hard not to support companies that cheated me.

I used to love the game that anet have ruined. And the divine auras in question have been requested to be purchasable by many people that didnt buy the CE, they arent extra smilie emotes like what you get in maple story. And since the CE cant be bought anymore a lot of people wanted the divine auras, just like people that wanted the BMP. Just because you dont want to buy the auras doesnt mean that others wouldnt. I dont really care about the BMP so why should Anet bother selling it? Because other people want it? Ok, so wheres my divine auras then?

I missed the promotion period.
I for one will be buying the bonus mission pack.
<3 the weapon skins!

NEW OFFER! GET GUILD WARS FREE WHEN YOU BUY GUILD WARS 2!

Why can I picture that realistically happening?


@pygar. So what if you only started playing 2 months ago? When I started playing Guild Wars, it was during Wintersday 2005 and because I was still new, I missed out on the hats (among the best ones too). Does that automatically mean that I deserve to get them? No, I missed out, plain and simple.

The Orange box isn't "a game" it's a compilation of games, get it straight.

Oh yea I missed out on the first haloween too, so gimme the hat too via the ingame store or retail! Oh, and gimme mini polar bez for cash too!

/Sarcasm detector reads PASS

Nice work, Anet!

Close this thread for sake... ppl start to get insane

GG anet... Not keeping your word. What have you become the NFL?


Anyway they have to get their money somehow they don't charge $15.

Here's what I think Anet/NCSoft's main problem is: they're running out of cash. Their business model is unsustainable given how fast the PC gaming market is shrinking and how little income they have. The pity is that they have invested too much into the free-to-play mythos to back out now.

I hope their financial people are taking a sober look at the situation. You don't have the money for every bell and whistle for GW2. Put some projects in the cryogenic unit to be thawed out and added to the game after release. Break parts of GW2 into modules to be sold separately (players will lap them up as long as modules add useful features). If you need to get rid of some expensive unproductive staff (I am sorely tempted to suggest some), do so. If you are absolutely in dire straits, institute a tiered server system where access for more than 4 hours per day is charged to the player. Or come up with something creative and revolutionary, as you have claimed many times as your forte.

They are most definitely not running out of cash. You know the funny thing about money though? You always want more. They saw a really easy way to make money, so they are going to do so.

...... Well why they are at it, prophecies collector edition emotes plz....

It's called the difference between an exlusive and something you *thought* should be exclusive. The CE stuff was always described as exclusive, therefore you can't have it without buying the CE's.

Might want to get the topic back to Anet selling the BMP rather than a tangent about PS3s and games there. I would say most people aren't defending ANET for deciding to sell the BMP because they thought they were going to do so in the first place. There was every indication given that Gaile was trying find players an alternative way to get the BMP without having to purchase through the online store. The fact that it was a promotion and was in no shape or form being advertised as an exclusive was also very clear.

There was a nice write up by a law student by Maseo (post #30) here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...6&postcount=30
explaining the legality and general wording of relative marketing that you will encounter in life. It's basic stuff that any business major or law student and somewhat general knowledge as he obviously isn't going to be in depth with researching/doing case studies and providing analysis just to make a general point on some random game forum.

Lol... £5.99

So, I could have saved myself up to £8.00 by not buying EotN from the online store and then bought the BMP later.

/don't really care but I find it amusing.

if people who didnt take advantage of the promotion keep moaning and eventually get a second chance, then if we all keep moaning for you to make GW prophecies CE available again, will you do that too?

/signed ... "The Big Moan"

We can do it!

Thats why you play MMO's. Let me guess you think GW was groundbreaking?

I strongly encourage everyone who is upset about this to contact ANET about it and let them know your displeasure with their actions.

Letters always are stronger than email, here is the mail address:

ArenaNet, Inc.
227 Bellevue Way NE #75
Bellevue, WA 98004

If you must send an email, I think this address is most appropriate:

[email protected]


And for the 100th time, for those who think this is about selfishness, elitism, or happiness in others not having something you have, stop beating that poor strawman to death.

This isn't about you at all. It's not between us and you, it's a beef between us and ANET. I don't care if others can get it, or how they get it. It's about the perception of being lied to and taken advantage of. If they had just re-opened the original offer (buy $30 or whatever in the online store, get it free) and let it go on forever, I would have no problem with it. But turning around and selling it now for only $10 is a kick in the face to those of us they were so strongly "thanking" for buying stuff in the online store.

You guys who want it (and Gaile) can spin it all day long, it doesn't change how this whole thing really went down.

1) The implication was made very strongly that the only way to obtain it was going to be thru the original promotion. Please note I didn't say they promised it. But it was definately a strong implication. It's exclusivity is also proven by the fact that the items are customized. They wanted it to be private and exclusive to those that got it through the promotion.

2) It comes out, and many people want it, and are screaming to give money to ANET.

3) ANET suddenly realizes there is much money to be made. But they also can't be naive enough to realize that people will not be happy about it. So Gaile comes out and starts the leagalese and spin doctoring. It was obvious from that point that it was going to be sold, and they were trying to do a pre-emptive strike on ruffled feathers. Complete waste of time.


This is about integrity and deciet and honor, and nothing else. Something that I thought ANET had, but now it's obvious that they do not.

They are willing to mortage their future vs the short term gain of extra cash now.

If the BMP was a big "thank you" to those who bought stuff in the online store during the promotion, than it's fair to say that selling it now is a big "F#*k you" to us now.

Someone earlier in this thread said that they have been shooting themselves in the foot lately. They've been shooting themselves in the foot for over a year.

How many people left over changes in the past? The 8 player reduced to 6 player HoH matches? Loot scaling? The abandonment of the original Guild Wars model to make GW2? Constant farming nerfs? The list goes on and on.

They have proven they have no integrity and cannot be trusted to keep their word at all. I hope that Guild Wars 2 suffers horribly and leaves them all scrambling to find new jobs.

Yet you still play.

Well, it's too late for u guys to complain about it now, some arguments are good (eventhough I am against them), but u all should of done it a month ago... there was a similar thread

Well to tell the truth im happy cause i didnt qualify in time so i didnt get the bonus mission pack , but i also understand the point of the people that wasted alot of money in the online stores for lets say nothing : /