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freekedoutfish

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13 Jan 2008 at 00:14 - 481

Quote:

Originally Posted by flclisgreat

and what they did was?

I agree Anet hasnt handled this well.

The fact is that Anet should not have offered it in the promotion in the first place. It was unfair on those who dont like to purchase the game in that fashion, couldnt afford to or dont have a credit or debit card but still wanted the extra lore and missions.

They should have sold it as a seperate item in the first place!

It was purely a marketting scheme to caused excitement about it, cause outcry and demand and then ultimately meet that demand.

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Or that is real life. Promotions are just, promotional. ANET offering the BMP is a complete backstab to those who supported their company during the "limited" promotion. It is like saying "Hey thanks for your great support, but now we are going to go ahead and make this limited promotion not so limited anymore."

This would be the same thing as if ANET offered the Prophecies CE glow in the online store because the promotion didn't target enough people.

You cant really compare making your hands glow because your bought a special edition copy of propherices to having access to extra lore, missions, locations and weapon skins!

They sell the bonus weapons in a pack in the store, which were originally only part of a special gold edition or something. No one complaines about that!

Lore is a major part of the game and something everyone should have access to. You cant really justify restricting that kind of content just because you didnt take part in a promotion!

I do sympathise with those who coughed up more for GWEN or spent £17.99 on the store to get the BMP, but I personally think you were daft to believe it would remain exclusive.

Sea Edge

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Black Eagles [BEG]

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13 Jan 2008 at 00:14 - 482

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Or that is real life. Promotions are just, promotional. ANET offering the BMP is a complete backstab to those who supported their company during the "limited" promotion. It is like saying "Hey thanks for your great support, but now we are going to go ahead and make this limited promotion not so limited anymore."

This would be the same thing as if ANET offered the Prophecies CE glow in the online store because the promotion didn't target enough people. It is wrong. Just like selling the BMP is wrong. People who acted on it by supporting the company before it was even released, trusting ANET did a great job with it should be rewarded. Why do all the people who didn't have their full trust get to purchase it, and for 10 USD nonetheless. Shame I say! You didn't put your confidence in ANET to make it worth acting on during the promotion. Well I say, you snooze, you lose. Guess ANET doesn't have respect for those that support them even without evidence.

Exactly.
They just kicked in the teeth those who took part in the promotion.

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

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Oblivion

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13 Jan 2008 at 00:17 - 483

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlero

As you've said, the promotion was limited. The BMP wasn't, you got it "free" we have to pay for it. I'll have paid £31 for EotN and the BMP, whereas i could've gotten both for (i believe, cant remember exacts) £25.

However I wasn't of age to have a credit/debit card at that time, my parents refuse to purchase across the internet, it would be suspect to most people if a 17year old asks to borrow their card, there are pre paid cash cards however they only work in the plaync store which is useless.

This alienated me (and others) from content i would happily of purchased, which i believe is a stab in the back to the masses that support them through retail stores.

The collectors editions were just that, not promotions, and if it really does bug you if you look hard enough you can still find them in the vast realms of the interweb.

It was clearly stated that the PlayNC store worked as well. So, um...yeh.

Oh, and some of us didn't get it for free. I had to buy useless character slots on 2 of my accounts to get it. So, no, it wasn't free. We had to purchase said items through the online store for a more expensive fee (aka GW:EN) then what retailers had it for. We put our trust in ANET that the product was worth the random expenditures before we even saw it. You should have to pay 30 USD for it. Period.

Oh, and at 17, you can have a checking account, which means you can have a debit card. You can be 16 and have a checking account.

flclisgreat

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13 Jan 2008 at 00:54 - 484

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Oh, and at 17, you can have a checking account, which means you can have a debit card. You can be 16 and have a checking account.

open bank account link to paypal there you go. what i do

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

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The Ascalon Union

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13 Jan 2008 at 07:51 - 485

Another bait & switch business practice by Anet. Where's the news?

I'd bet that some of you will still be here and whine about similar issues when GW2 comes.

Mankind never learns.

Jake_Steel

Lion's Arch Merchant

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Portland, OR

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13 Jan 2008 at 07:56 - 486

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cacheelma

Another bait & switch business practice by Anet. Where's the news?

I'd bet that some of you will still be here and whine about similar issues when GW2 comes.

Mankind never learns.

Or perhaps we'll just buy what we want and not be concerned if there is a "second printing" of it later...

Comic Book companies do second printings all the time.

Conn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

13 Jan 2008 at 08:02 - 487

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Oh, and some of us didn't get it for free. I had to buy useless character slots on 2 of my accounts to get it. So, no, it wasn't free. We had to purchase said items through the online store for a more expensive fee (aka GW:EN) then what retailers had it for. We put our trust in ANET that the product was worth the random expenditures before we even saw it. You should have to pay 30 USD for it. Period.

No you still got it for free, it was your own choice to buy those char slots. So stop your whining already.

Tyla

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Join Date: Sep 2006

13 Jan 2008 at 08:31 - 488

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conn

No you still got it for free, it was your own choice to buy those char slots.

Like it was your own choice not to get the BMP.

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So stop your whining already.

Once again: Why didn't YOU stop your whining back before? Saying that is like looking in the mirror and saying it to yourself back then.
And that isn't the only problem: As Rahja said...we got backstabbed for our loyalty.

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Originally Posted by Death By Ketchup

I don't see what your crying about, so the rest of us get it. you had it for 2 months before the rest of us, and dont use the excuse that we got the box, who cares, if you had the box it would just be collecting dust like our box. And personally I would rather spend my own money then use a credit company and have to pay them back double later. >.>

It wasn't just the box - we were lied to.

Master Knightfall

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2007

13 Jan 2008 at 10:45 - 489

Quote:

If the BMP was a big "thank you" to those who bought stuff in the online store during the promotion, than it's fair to say that selling it now is a big "F#*k you" to us now.

Lol I love that statement I can feel your anger and contempt. Good one, but, of course it's just words and letters into the wind it's not going to stop them and people will still buy GW2 no mattere how much they offended you or the handful of others that are pissed because they got the big F#*k you. hahaha That is funny though.

Turtle222

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13 Jan 2008 at 11:20 - 490

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlero

As you've said, the promotion was limited. The BMP wasn't, you got it "free" we have to pay for it. I'll have paid £31 for EotN and the BMP, whereas i could've gotten both for (i believe, cant remember exacts) £25.

However I wasn't of age to have a credit/debit card at that time, my parents refuse to purchase across the internet, it would be suspect to most people if a 17year old asks to borrow their card, there are pre paid cash cards however they only work in the plaync store which is useless.

This alienated me (and others) from content i would happily of purchased, which i believe is a stab in the back to the masses that support them through retail stores.

The collectors editions were just that, not promotions, and if it really does bug you if you look hard enough you can still find them in the vast realms of the interweb.

you can get a credit card at 17

I was one of those that felt betrayed.

But now that Gaile has explained it i feel a lot better /sarcasm.

Apparently, the PROMOTION wasn't going to be available when it ends (ie. stating the bloody obvious- ofcourse if the promotion ends that means that you cannot get BMP anywhere *small print* if you spend 30 USD after the promotion.

Pretty much a play on words. Either Gaile lied about not having any "current information" as to whether they will release it again, or the Anet fatcats just didn't tell her

After all, business is business.

I'm afraid i was rather disappointed about how this all was handled. I thought the BMP was only available through the promotion.

Anet thought their message was perfectly clear - that the promotion itself would end, not the BMP.

Well Anet...if you didn't notice...there were 2000000000000094 threads QQing about "GIVE US DA BMP, WE IZ THINKIN IT WAS DA CRAP WID DA MISSNZ BUT NOW IT HAZ WEPONZ WE WANTS IT".

if you really thought it was understood...then you are either blind or this is all false.

seriously...just seriously....have a look at all the QQ threads earlier...see how many misunderstood what you meant.

Mahanaxar

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13 Jan 2008 at 11:41 - 491

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake_Steel

Or perhaps we'll just buy what we want and not be concerned if there is a "second printing" of it later...

Comic Book companies do second printings all the time.

Looks like we have a winner.

Shuuda

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13 Jan 2008 at 11:58 - 492

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyla salanari

Once again: Why didn't YOU stop your whining back before? Saying that is like looking in the mirror and saying it to yourself back then.
And that isn't the only problem: As Rahja said...we got backstabbed for our loyalty.

Quoted for truth, this entire thread is built on hypocrisy, I don't think one person here has not been a hypocrite in one way or another.

Sirius-NZ

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13 Jan 2008 at 12:17 - 493

This is exactly what is happening here:
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news...-frontline.php

By the way, how exactly would not "abandoning" GW1 be better than making a new game to solve its problems? You're not paying a subscription on GW1, and you'd also pay for a new chapter pretty much the same way you'd pay for GW2 anyway.

Hell, you can think of GW2 as a new chapter if you want, except with a whole string of improvements that wouldn't have been possible otherwise, with the minor cost of not being able to (exactly, at least) carry characters over. Sure, you might not like the "improvements", but hasn't it always been like that with new chapters anyway? Not everyone liked Factions' PvP changes, and not everyone liked heroes or PvE skills either.

Shuuda

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13 Jan 2008 at 12:23 - 494

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius-NZ

This is exactly what is happening here:
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news...-frontline.php

By the way, how exactly would not "abandoning" GW1 be better than making a new game to solve its problems? You're not paying a subscription on GW1, and you'd also pay for a new chapter pretty much the same way you'd pay for GW2 anyway.

Hell, you can think of GW2 as a new chapter if you want, except with a whole string of improvements that wouldn't have been possible otherwise, with the minor cost of not being able to (exactly, at least) carry characters over. Sure, you might not like the "improvements", but hasn't it always been like that with new chapters anyway? Not everyone liked Factions' PvP changes, and not everyone liked heroes or PvE skills either.

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Originally Posted by Prof. BRIAN SLYTHERIN, Harvard University

Quite simply, they're faggots.

Must be correct if it's from Harvard.

Dev121

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13 Jan 2008 at 12:43 - 495

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyla salanari

It wasn't just the box - we were lied to.

Welcome to Guild Wars, everyone who bought GW:EN was lied to and their rants did not amount to anything so just get over it, sorry if you feel about raged but theres little you can do and you may aswell just get on with it.

ZenRgy

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13 Jan 2008 at 12:51 - 496

Looking at a lot of your posts, are you so spiteful and petty that you want to keep the BMP all to yourself? I could understand getting upset if they made everyone pay for it, but they're not - those who bought EotN or anything in the store (like I did) you got it for free, that's the bonus.

They are buying additional content which we already obtained for free, it doesn't effect your game in anyway whatsoever, nor the market.

To those who got the BMP from the promotion, it being free is your reward.
To those who are buying it now/would have to buy it now, it's optional! Aside from weapon skins, it really doesn't add much to your game.

Death By Ketchup

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13 Jan 2008 at 13:37 - 497

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyla salanari

It wasn't just the box - we were lied to.

It would be nice if we could get through life without being lied to huh? Everyone is lied to at one point or another.

freekedoutfish

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13 Jan 2008 at 13:42 - 498

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

It was clearly stated that the PlayNC store worked as well. So, um...yeh.

Oh, and some of us didn't get it for free. I had to buy useless character slots on 2 of my accounts to get it. So, no, it wasn't free. We had to purchase said items through the online store for a more expensive fee (aka GW:EN) then what retailers had it for. We put our trust in ANET that the product was worth the random expenditures before we even saw it. You should have to pay 30 USD for it. Period.

Oh, and at 17, you can have a checking account, which means you can have a debit card. You can be 16 and have a checking account.

I dont mean this to sound harsh, but it will.

That was your choice and you were stupid for doing it. You dont put your "trust" into any company, because they are purely after your money.

The sheer fact that you had to buy GWEN along with 2 character slots just to get the BMP didnt register that in your head, it was purely just a marketting scheme to make us spend more then we needed to?

Although why did you get 2 characters slots too, when you only had to spent over £17.99 and the game cost covered that!

Even I realised ne within 2 seconds of the BMP being announced that it was just a gimic to get money and I stuck to my guns and got it far cheaper from play.com. I refused to cough up nearly £10 more just to take part in a promotion intended to do nothing more then make your pay more.

Yes I lost out on the BMP and risked not ever getting it, but im not going to fall to pressure from Anet just because they want to do nasty little promotions to make us spend more then I have to.

Im not made of money and I cant afford to spend more then £17.99 on a computer game and Anet expected me to cough up around £29.99 for the game!

But please keep in mind that it will still cost us around £10 to buy the BMP now anyway.

Thats £17.99 for GWEN + around £10 f the BMP, which in total is pretty much how much the cost of GWEN from the online store. The only difference is I got GWEN in a nice, sexy box with a manual and art work while you got nothing tantiable.

Personally I feel I got the better deal because atleast I can hold a box in my hands and know I own the content.

We've all spent the same amount at the end of the day, so stop being spitefull just because you fell for a stupid promotion and feel ripped off now. You were stupid enough to do it at the time.

Go complain to trading standards if you really feel Anet has been under-handed but I think they might laugh at you!

Jaythen Tyradel

Jungle Guide

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13 Jan 2008 at 14:08 - 499

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

The only difference is I got GWEN in a nice, sexy box with a manual and art work while you got nothing tantiable.

Personally I feel I got the better deal because atleast I can hold a box in my hands and know I own the content.

That is your opinion on the box. IT is still, just a box. Having the box to me doesn't imply ownership when all I really own is a license to play the game. The box is just the shiny feature to sell you the license and come with tangible goodies, if you like them.
IF, like other games, you need the CD to install/play the game, you have a strong valid point to make about ownership. Products through online vendors like Steam allow you to own the content you download, but if Steam goes down, you own nothing.

However, not arguing with you, just stating an opinion.

Final note: I am seeing a trend here in the view of the BMP. At first it was all about being foolish for buying from the GWonline store, then being elieteist for having the BMP (cuz somehow we didn't want people to have it

), and now to HA HA I have a box and you don't (not directed at you freekedoutfish). None of this sounds of elitism, just good old human jealousy.
Either way, I got the BMP and I could care less about the box.

freekedoutfish

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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13 Jan 2008 at 14:31 - 500

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaythen Tyradel

Final note: I am seeing a trend here in the view of the BMP. At first it was all about being foolish for buying from the GWonline store, then being elieteist for having the BMP (cuz somehow we didn't want people to have it

), and now to HA HA I have a box and you don't (not directed at you freekedoutfish). None of this sounds of elitism, just good old human jealousy.
Either way, I got the BMP and I could care less about the box.

TBH im just given as good as I get, and we're getting people saying "you dont deserve the weapons because you didnt buy it during the promotion". So if they want to be spitefull and childish, I figured id join in.

Nananana, I got GWEN cheaper!!!!

Note: we didnt actually get anything cheaper!

Buying it for £17.99 (GWEN) from the store + £8.99 for the BMP is virtually the same cost of buying GWEN from Anet during the promotion to get the BMP.

We have all paid the same people. The diference (as I said above) is it took longer, but myself and others got a boxed version.

If , for some reason, you bought more then just GWEN from the online store and spent more then you needed to, to qualify for the promotion then tough luck. Why did you spend more then you needed to? You only had to spend £17.99 and the game was over £20+!

Thats aimed at those who bought 2 characters slots too!

mcsumo

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13 Jan 2008 at 14:34 - 501

Copying in my post from the devs forum.

I am extremely pissed off about this. I had already bought GW:EN since I hadn't really paid attention to the offer details. Then when I read on guru that it WOULD NOT be put on sale I looked at the details properly. It seemed perfectly clear that the ONLY way to EVER get BMP was spend money in online store. Plus that could very well be the one and only chance to do so.

Therefore I spent £18 on character slots I don't need, to be sure I had it.

Now they turn around and say it will be on sale?

Fine let me return my 3 character slots for a refund then I will buy the BMP for much less.

You sold me those slots by lying to me.

Plus I like having the box for games I play.

I am sure trading standards authorities would be interested in this sort of malpractice.

The way the BMP works, early uptake is worth precisely nothing. You can't profit from anything gained through it.

I have copied this post into a support ticket I have just sent. I better get a refund or I will find out what trading standards do make of this.

EDIT

Just want to say that the Walmart/Wii comparison is the stupidest thing I have ever read. A Wii can be bought from many different stores, we all know the RRP. The BMP we were led to believe was ONLY EVER available by making online store purchases. If we already had every other thing you could buy in the store the ONLY OPTION to EVER get the BMP (we were led to believe) was buying 3 unneeded/unwanted character slots.

They lied to us to make us spend money we wouldn't otherwise have done. And now that the 'distance buying' legislation deadline is safely passed they go back on what they said. It is fraud plain and simple.

Lonesamurai

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13 Jan 2008 at 15:32 - 502

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcsumo

Copying in my post from the devs forum.

I am extremely pissed off about this. I had already bought GW:EN since I hadn't really paid attention to the offer details. Then when I read on guru that it WOULD NOT be put on sale I looked at the details properly. It seemed perfectly clear that the ONLY way to EVER get BMP was spend money in online store. Plus that could very well be the one and only chance to do so.

Therefore I spent £18 on character slots I don't need, to be sure I had it.

Now they turn around and say it will be on sale?

Fine let me return my 3 character slots for a refund then I will buy the BMP for much less.

You sold me those slots by lying to me.

Plus I like having the box for games I play.

I am sure trading standards authorities would be interested in this sort of malpractice.

The way the BMP works, early uptake is worth precisely nothing. You can't profit from anything gained through it.

I have copied this post into a support ticket I have just sent. I better get a refund or I will find out what trading standards do make of this.

Wow, legal action huh?

i can't wait to see how this one turns out...

freekedoutfish

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13 Jan 2008 at 15:43 - 503

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcsumo

Therefore I spent £18 on character slots I don't need, to be sure I had it.

Now they turn around and say it will be on sale?

Ok see, I can sympathise with your situation. A person who already owned GWEN before the promotion and then felt the had to spent £17 on something ethey didnt really want to get the BMP from the online store. I was in the exact same situation, except I didnt buy the BMP at all.

But still...

...I (along with others) could have done that to get the BMP, but we didnt!

I think you have to accept a certain level of niavity in not realising the BMP would eventually be sold seperately or daftness for falling for such a blatently nasty promotion! I know that probably wont go down well what I just wrote and im sorry. But Anet didnt force you into buying the product and they didnt state (to my knowledge) that the promotion would be the ONLY way to buy it.

Its like me jumping early into the high definition war between HD DVD and BD. Blu ray is now blatenly winning and I have bought quite a few HD DVD films for my xbox360 HD DVD drive. Had I waited and had some intelligence, I would have waited until the format war sorted itself out and then I would have known to invest in BD and not HD DVD. But I didnt wait! But I cant now turn around and ask for my money back on all my HD DVD films and my HD DVD player because I chose to buy them the second the new technology came out.

Just as you decided to spend money to get the BMP the second it was released. You could have waited like hundreds of others for it to be sold seperately, but you didnt.

You could have waited and seen how it sorted itself out, but you wanted to jump in the minute the BMP was released. Now those who did that are suffering. It was a bad move by Anet and it should have been released seperately, but they havent broken any laws or rules or miss-lead or lied at all.

Show me the quote stating you would ONLY ever be able to get the BMP during the promotion and NO WHERE else?

You really wont have a leg to stand on, in asking for your money back! Its not Anet's fault that you spent £18 to get the BMP by buying character slots.

Mahanaxar

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13 Jan 2008 at 16:08 - 504

Are some people here seriously raging about 10/20 dollars?
You shouldn't waste your time on a gaming forum then. You have more importante problems to fix.

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

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13 Jan 2008 at 16:17 - 505

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahanaxar

Are some people here seriously raging about 10/20 dollars?
You shouldn't waste your time on a gaming forum then. You have more importante problems to fix.

W0Rd!

Know what I hope? I hope ANet sends all the GW players in... oh... Korea, a check for $500, and a special pre-release copy of GW2, and I hope Gaile flies over there and personally hands them out, along with new Porsches, a new gaming computer, and the congressional medal of honor. Furthermore, I hope that from now on, ANet just gives away new game updates and games for FREE to everyone in... oh... Sweden. Why? Favoritism, plain and simple. I'm not joking. I hope they come right out and say it. "We like Swedes better."

Cause in the end, it don't affect my gameplay one bit.

Solus Spartan

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13 Jan 2008 at 16:38 - 506

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahanaxar

Are some people here seriously raging about 10/20 dollars?
You shouldn't waste your time on a gaming forum then. You have more importante problems to fix.

Yet your reading a thread related to the issue which your against? Just don't read it and move on?

Turtle222

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13 Jan 2008 at 16:48 - 507

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahanaxar

Are some people here seriously raging about 10/20 dollars?
You shouldn't waste your time on a gaming forum then. You have more importante problems to fix.

typical retard quoted above. i don't give a rat's arse about the money. It's the play on words that really gets to me

Croco Clouds

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13 Jan 2008 at 16:48 - 508

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edge Martinez

W0Rd!

Know what I hope? I hope ANet sends all the GW players in... oh... Korea, a check for $500, and a special pre-release copy of GW2, and I hope Gaile flies over there and personally hands them out, along with new Porsches, a new gaming computer, and the congressional medal of honor. Furthermore, I hope that from now on, ANet just gives away new game updates and games for FREE to everyone in... oh... Sweden. Why? Favoritism, plain and simple. I'm not joking. I hope they come right out and say it. "We like Swedes better."

Cause in the end, it don't affect my gameplay one bit.

lolwut? unrealistic

MetalMan

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13 Jan 2008 at 16:49 - 509

Looks like i'll be getting the BMP

And to everypme sat at their computers having QQ fits...

You got access before us. Technically, you did get it free, as you chose to pay the extra in the online store to get the weekend AND the BMP. Your being selfish, "OMG i payed extra and got something earlier - now its cheaper and everyones gonna have it! QQ"

Grow up. Its a business, this is what businesses do - sell things to make income. Maybe this extra income will improve GW2? Who knows.

Stop the QQ. Stop the whining. This is a game, have your fights about whos more epic someplace else.

Juno Onuj

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13 Jan 2008 at 16:49 - 510

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solus Spartan

Yet your reading a thread related to the issue which your against? Just don't read it and move on?

You missed his point. If people are pissed because of $10 or $20 they probably have bigger financial issues to take care of before they should be wasting time with something so stupid.

mcsumo

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13 Jan 2008 at 16:51 - 511

Yes we are 'raging' about 10-20 dollars. But it isn't the amount it is the principal.

Even if Anet didn't categorically state it would not be available any other way, their wording was deliberately ambiguous enough that a great many people (myself included) believed that was the case. That is why so many people joined in with 'petitions' to make it available in future and why Gaile felt she had to push forward the case for people who wanted it.

Unfortunately Anet have now updated the website pages regarding the promotion, so we can't examine the ambiguous wording. But as the only people able to provide information and as the ones providing the service, surely there is a duty of care, that rests with the company, to ensure people are not misled into spending £18 to acquire a product which they can get in the (very near) future (with box) for £6.

Josh

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13 Jan 2008 at 16:58 - 512

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcsumo

Copying in my post from the devs forum.

I am extremely pissed off about this. I had already bought GW:EN since I hadn't really paid attention to the offer details. Then when I read on guru that it WOULD NOT be put on sale I looked at the details properly. It seemed perfectly clear that the ONLY way to EVER get BMP was spend money in online store. Plus that could very well be the one and only chance to do so.

Therefore I spent £18 on character slots I don't need, to be sure I had it.

Now they turn around and say it will be on sale?

Fine let me return my 3 character slots for a refund then I will buy the BMP for much less.

You sold me those slots by lying to me.

Plus I like having the box for games I play.

I am sure trading standards authorities would be interested in this sort of malpractice.

The way the BMP works, early uptake is worth precisely nothing. You can't profit from anything gained through it.

I have copied this post into a support ticket I have just sent. I better get a refund or I will find out what trading standards do make of this.

Trading standards? They won't give a flying shit, you have no case - failure.

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

13 Jan 2008 at 17:12 - 513

If there offer was promoted as :

Limited offer bonus missions free if you spend....... ect.

Then you have no rights and no reason to moan, the limited is the implication that it's free for you who meet the requirments, that the only thing you needed to read to understand it.

If on the other hand it said:

Only chance to ever get the limited bonus missions when you spend....ect.

It didn't but that would be a case due to them telling you its a one time offer. My opinion: Suck it up sorry.

mcsumo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

SOS

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13 Jan 2008 at 17:14 - 514

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh

Trading standards? They won't give a flying shit, you have no case - failure.

Interesting point, concisely put.

You heard about people successfully sueing for slipping on a wet floor despite a sign? Or burning themselves with hot coffee? Or people who were sold endowment policies and were unaware of the risks being compensated for shortfalls?

If enough of us feel that we have been misled in this case, I am pretty sure a successful class action could be brought against Anet. I am not saying that is what I want to do. But Anet should take more care that their customers aren't made to feel like this.

madmonarch

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

PvE

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13 Jan 2008 at 17:59 - 515

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcsumo

Unfortunately Anet have now updated the website pages regarding the promotion, so we can't examine the ambiguous wording.

Here's the exact news quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by www.guildwars.com

For a limited time, when you spend $29 USD (€26/£17) or more in the Guild Wars In-Game Store or through the PlayNC Store, you will get a Guild Wars Bonus Mission Pack for free!
The Guild Wars Bonus Mission Pack will allow you to play through four pivotal moments in Guild Wars history. Earn unique rewards as you go face-to-face with Palawa Joko and his undead army as one of the key figures in the Battle of Jahai. Experience part of Cantha’s turbulent past as you witness the violent Tengu Wars. Learn firsthand how the White Mantle rose to power in Kryta. And, finally, discover what became of Gwen after the Charr invaded her home and the Searing destroyed everything she’d ever known.
Spend a total of 26€ ($29/£17) or more in the Guild Wars In-Game Store or purchase and activate any product worth 26€ ($29/£17) through the PlayNC online store, between 20:00 BST July 5, 2007 and 19:00 BST October 31, 2007.
You can spend the required amount all at once, or over time; your purchases will be tracked and once you meet the requirement, you will qualify to receive the Bonus Mission Pack!
The Bonus Mission Pack will release in November. This promotion is non-transferable and is limited to one per account. The Bonus Pack will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion in the in-game store or the exact account on which a qualifying Guild Wars product is activated that has been purchased in the PlayNC store.

Examine

fowlero

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

England, UK

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13 Jan 2008 at 18:00 - 516

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Oh, and at 17, you can have a checking account, which means you can have a debit card. You can be 16 and have a checking account.

To be honest, i don't have a clue what a checking account is and have never heard that phrase before. Sorry but i cannot get a debit card at 17, my bank and several others i checked all require you to be of 18 years old before you can get one.

I know you can use the plaync store with prepaids, i stated that, i forgot to put in that you could only purchase EotN from said store and nothing else which is available from the in game store which would actually have been of use (char slots etc).

And the 30USD/£15 part, i'd happily pay that for the BMP, the price isnt a problem.

Ork Pride

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

13 Jan 2008 at 18:06 - 517

Sell BMP > More money for Anet > More money for GW2 > Better GW2 > Everyone is happy.

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

13 Jan 2008 at 18:07 - 518

"The Bonus Mission Pack will release in November. This promotion is non-transferable and is limited to one per account. The Bonus Pack will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion in the in-game store or the exact account on which a qualifying Guild Wars product is activated that has been purchased in the PlayNC store."

That section sounds like nothing more than legal talk. They aren't stating that this will be the one and only time you will be able to obtain the BMP, but is to stop people from believing they will be able to transfer it between accounts, give it to friends, etc. And regardless, that doesn't give Anet any less right to offer it again by other methods.

I'm sure someone can explain that better than me, but it was said pretty well before. Those of you who believed this content would be completely exclusive were pretty niave..

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

13 Jan 2008 at 18:10 - 519

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmonarch

Here's the exact news quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by www.guildwars.com

For a limited time, when you spend $29 USD (€26/£17) or more in the Guild Wars In-Game Store or through the PlayNC Store, you will get a Guild Wars Bonus Mission Pack for free!
The Guild Wars Bonus Mission Pack will allow you to play through four pivotal moments in Guild Wars history. Earn unique rewards as you go face-to-face with Palawa Joko and his undead army as one of the key figures in the Battle of Jahai. Experience part of Cantha’s turbulent past as you witness the violent Tengu Wars. Learn firsthand how the White Mantle rose to power in Kryta. And, finally, discover what became of Gwen after the Charr invaded her home and the Searing destroyed everything she’d ever known.
Spend a total of 26€ ($29/£17) or more in the Guild Wars In-Game Store or purchase and activate any product worth 26€ ($29/£17) through the PlayNC online store, between 20:00 BST July 5, 2007 and 19:00 BST October 31, 2007.
You can spend the required amount all at once, or over time; your purchases will be tracked and once you meet the requirement, you will qualify to receive the Bonus Mission Pack!
The Bonus Mission Pack will release in November. This promotion is non-transferable and is limited to one per account. The Bonus Pack will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion in the in-game store or the exact account on which a qualifying Guild Wars product is activated that has been purchased in the PlayNC store.

Examine

There you go. It explicitly states the sole means of acquiring the bonus pack.

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

13 Jan 2008 at 18:15 - 520

Er no. That just says, in plain English mind you, that the BMP will be available through this promotion for the account that complies with the promotion rules. It nowhere states they would not be offering it at a later time.