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Originally Posted by Juno Onuj
I'll sell someone my game packaging for $10.
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BMP for sale
Eugaet
Juhanah
I'm happy that they sell it directly.. But they should have done that first instead of making people think it was a "special gift" exclusive to people who spent 30$ in the online store.
By selling it right away the first time they would have saved lots of time and effort. And it would have made everyone happy once instead of half the people complaining first then the other half later.
By selling it right away the first time they would have saved lots of time and effort. And it would have made everyone happy once instead of half the people complaining first then the other half later.
CyberMesh0
Sad truth- anet was already screwed no matter what they did.
And those of us that already have it- didn't get it for free. We had to spend $30 to get it, not $10.
People with lack of access to the online store still won't get it either- depending on what this patner thing is.
And those of us that already have it- didn't get it for free. We had to spend $30 to get it, not $10.
People with lack of access to the online store still won't get it either- depending on what this patner thing is.
Darksun
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Originally Posted by evilseabass
I already feel special...remember, we got it for free.
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Originally Posted by CyberMesh0
And those of us that already have it- didn't get it for free. We had to spend $30 to get it, not $10.
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xReLx
yay. cant wait 
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by tmr819
Happily, I hope you're right. WoW had me paying for a lot of "leet" content I was never able to play. GW does the same thing (UW, FoW, etc.) just not to such an extent as WoW. If I had had a choice (i.e., if these areas had been offered as add-ons [like the BMP]), I would not have purchased UW, FoW, The Deep, Urgoz' Warren, etc.
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No, it's either general expansion packs or leet weapons or something else that gets sold for extra money.
Juno Onuj
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Originally Posted by Eugaet
Juno, what kind of condition is it in? $10 shipped or was that w/o shipping? Not sure what Phoenix was talking about regarding the plastic, unless it was inside the box. The retail copies I see are cardboard boxes w/ a flap on the front.
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Phoenix Tears
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Originally Posted by Elisa
And the thing about people whining it was "so impossible" to get in Europe is straight bollocks, too. I'm from The Netherlands, probably one of the most digitalized-money countries in the world, where everything is ran through the PIN-system and hardly anyone ever carries loose change. This means we hardly ever use credit cards also, as we have a PIN for everything. It was still childishly easy to obtain a credit card and anyone could have done it.
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Taki
Don't waste your time argueing with children or adults who never quite managed to grow up.
The fact that the BMP will be available to most people who want it is a good thing. Had ANet known that the demand would've been as high as it was, there's no question that they would've tried to offer a more suitable solution. It was even stated, truthfully or not, that they didn't believe the content was enough to sell on it's own.
The problem is that there were a lot of crying from people who really wanted to collect the GWEN box/contents and at the time were faced with three choices:
None of those options are favorable to the player. The ideal situation would have been to buy at the lower retail price to get their box and then buy the BMP separate. But that wasn't an option at the time so one way or another they had to make a sacrifice if they wanted both GWEN box and BMP access. This is why some are unhappy and I understand that. However, it did work out great for ANET, at the expense of these players/fans, because if they really wanted both they had no choice but to buy GWEN/$30 of unwanted stuff from the online store and ANET got a bigger cut of the sales that way.
So if you were like me and were planning on buying GWEN online or didn't care about a collectable box, then the BMP was truly free. But if you were one of those who wanted the box and the BMP, then it was not free - it actually came with either an opportunity or real cost.
The fact that the BMP will be available to most people who want it is a good thing. Had ANet known that the demand would've been as high as it was, there's no question that they would've tried to offer a more suitable solution. It was even stated, truthfully or not, that they didn't believe the content was enough to sell on it's own.
The problem is that there were a lot of crying from people who really wanted to collect the GWEN box/contents and at the time were faced with three choices:
- Buy the retail box at a lower price and miss out on the BMP content.
- Buy GWEN at a higher price in the online store and then buy a second copy at a retail store for the box.
- Buy $30 worth of content from the online store and miss out on the box.
None of those options are favorable to the player. The ideal situation would have been to buy at the lower retail price to get their box and then buy the BMP separate. But that wasn't an option at the time so one way or another they had to make a sacrifice if they wanted both GWEN box and BMP access. This is why some are unhappy and I understand that. However, it did work out great for ANET, at the expense of these players/fans, because if they really wanted both they had no choice but to buy GWEN/$30 of unwanted stuff from the online store and ANET got a bigger cut of the sales that way.
So if you were like me and were planning on buying GWEN online or didn't care about a collectable box, then the BMP was truly free. But if you were one of those who wanted the box and the BMP, then it was not free - it actually came with either an opportunity or real cost.
KartMan
not complaining at all here
I bought 3 slots I needed anyway and got BMP for free, I'm happy ppl who didn't had the opportunity for whatever reason can now enjoy those nice missions, and especially the nice skins ^^
cheers and don't forget it's a game after all
last but not least, thanks Anet ! (never said it but would never say it enough)
I bought 3 slots I needed anyway and got BMP for free, I'm happy ppl who didn't had the opportunity for whatever reason can now enjoy those nice missions, and especially the nice skins ^^
cheers and don't forget it's a game after all
last but not least, thanks Anet ! (never said it but would never say it enough)
Jeremy Untouchable
SWEET, I am going to thank them, this rocks my socks off...
Showtime
This doesn't really affect the value of the weapons since they can't be used by people without the BMP. So I don't really care one way or the other.
BUT it is still really shady of ANET to offer reissue something that was supposed to be only available for a limited time to customers that got in on the BMP promotion. What if the promotion sucked. Would they try to reissue it for money now? I doubt it cuz no one would buy it and it wouldn't be worth their efforts. So ANET makes more money, other customers get to use shiny new weapons, but the original customer was basically lied to. Now I see no reason to get in on any future ANET promotion. I'll can wait to see if it is cool/worth it and then just buy the reissue.
As far as it being free... I could have bought the expansion for less at Frys electronics and ended up paying about the same amount later for the same promotion.
BUT it is still really shady of ANET to offer reissue something that was supposed to be only available for a limited time to customers that got in on the BMP promotion. What if the promotion sucked. Would they try to reissue it for money now? I doubt it cuz no one would buy it and it wouldn't be worth their efforts. So ANET makes more money, other customers get to use shiny new weapons, but the original customer was basically lied to. Now I see no reason to get in on any future ANET promotion. I'll can wait to see if it is cool/worth it and then just buy the reissue.
As far as it being free... I could have bought the expansion for less at Frys electronics and ended up paying about the same amount later for the same promotion.
DOCB22
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Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears
OMFG.. all this whining selfish people make me SICK.
There should be a BAN HAMMER for being selfish like hell realy >.> to get rid of all this whinery. IT'S A F.UCKING GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! learn THAT finally.. or stop "playing" it, when you have no other reason for playing it, then for being selfish and granting others not to have the same fun with the same god damn GAME. god, really this f.ucking selfishness makes me really angry. I can't understand, how people can be soooooooo selfish.. like small babies... GROW UP !!!!!!!!1 PS: sry for filter avoiding...but I'M so angry.. it would make my post look only silly, if itwould be full of the "red gored engine crap" mostly only .... |
Eugaet
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Originally Posted by Taki
Don't waste your time argueing with children or adults who never quite managed to grow up.
The fact that the BMP will be available to most people who want it is a good thing. Had ANet known that the demand would've been as high as it was, there's no question that they would've tried to offer a more suitable solution. It was even stated, truthfully or not, that they didn't believe the content was enough to sell on it's own. The problem is that there were a lot of crying from people who really wanted to collect the GWEN box/contents and at the time were faced with three choices:
None of those options are favorable to the player. The ideal situation would have been to buy at the lower retail price to get their box and then buy the BMP separate. But that wasn't an option at the time so one way or another they had to make a sacrifice if they wanted both GWEN box and BMP access. This is why some are unhappy and I understand that. However, it did work out great for ANET, at the expense of these players/fans, because if they really wanted both they had no choice but to buy GWEN/$30 of unwanted stuff from the online store and ANET got a bigger cut of the sales that way. So if you were like me and were planning on buying GWEN online or didn't care about a collectable box, then the BMP was truly free. But if you were one of those who wanted the box and the BMP, then it was not free - it actually came with either an opportunity or real cost. |
I would like to thank Anet for making it available to others.
I'll attempt to stop arguing with the children or adults who never quite managed to grow up.
xshadowwolfx
Finally i get to play the missions. The weapons are a nice side thingy though =)
Juno Onuj
hmm how much was GWEN from the online store again? Now that I look at my game box I paid $40. It was more than this in the in-game store?
Commander Ryker
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Originally Posted by CyberMesh0
And those of us that already have it- didn't get it for free. We had to spend $30 to get it, not $10.
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Eugaet
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Originally Posted by Juno Onuj
hmm how much was GWEN from the online store again? Now that I look at my game box I paid $40. It was more than this in the in-game store?
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EDIT: Yep, just checked my receipt. $39.99 online.
Oso Minar
I think it's a wonderful idea. I love the weapons I got from it, and I got mine for free! If people want to shell out 8 bucks for a minipet, I think they should be allowed to shell out 10 for the chance to get some sweet weapons.
Elisa
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Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears
fine for you, when its in the netherlands so shit easy, but in other european countries this is maybe not the case oO ever thought about that ? I doubt so ...
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Master Knightfall
Haha the slups that paid out the nose for soemthing they THOUGHT was exclusive now have just brown stuff left on their noses. hahahahahaaha I got GWEN for less than $20 in a store, got the BOX and a nice MAP and all kinds of goodies in the box and just waited this out. I expected NCsoft to pull some crap like this and I was right though I really didn't want them to I knew they would do it "for the money" eventually and screw everyone that bought through their store. I saved $20 overall while others paid through the nose. hahahaha
You can't see me
Hello, let me introduce myself. I am the concept of bait and switch. Many companies will use me in their marketing to release an item that is understood by the public to be a one time limited offer, which I assist them in making a lot of money they would not have made otherwise. Then, I turn around and, presto-chango! A few weeks/months later the same product is released again, but the company denies my use because they had never actually confirmed that it was a one time offer, only understood by the public as one. I was happy to help in the release of the bonus mission pack, and I have no doubt we'll meet again. Ciao.
My Humble Opinion:
Arenanet should have done more to stifle rumors that it was exclusive if it's Rep is so hard up on the fact that they never claimed that it was, and if she wants to hold claims previously made that Arenanet is not like other money grubbing companies. No offense Gaile, but seriously, if it was not Exclusive and it was understood that it was, more should have been done if Arenanet wants to send these new messages or release the BMP for sale.
My Humble Opinion:
Arenanet should have done more to stifle rumors that it was exclusive if it's Rep is so hard up on the fact that they never claimed that it was, and if she wants to hold claims previously made that Arenanet is not like other money grubbing companies. No offense Gaile, but seriously, if it was not Exclusive and it was understood that it was, more should have been done if Arenanet wants to send these new messages or release the BMP for sale.
Nevin
Ahhahaha let the insanity commence!
Lonesamurai
Online Store: GW:EN was £29.99 (£24.99 after the £5 preorder pack) and i got BMP for FREE
GAME (UK store): GW:EN was retailed at £29.99
For the same price I got the BMP instead of a box, a 16 page manual and a map...
And I feel better because ANet/NCSoft got more of my cash instead of the middleman and I got an extra 4 repeatable missions and cool new weapons...
GAME (UK store): GW:EN was retailed at £29.99
For the same price I got the BMP instead of a box, a 16 page manual and a map...
And I feel better because ANet/NCSoft got more of my cash instead of the middleman and I got an extra 4 repeatable missions and cool new weapons...
Aerian_Skybane
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
So, instead of paying $15 a month, we pay $40 for an "expansion" that probably wasn't worth $40, and $10 - $30 for a BMP?
The only thing saving Guild Wars is the fact it's free to play. If it's pay-to-play with bonuses, then it loses some luster. Sadly, I think that's the direction that GW2 is headed towards - some kind of free-to-play "basic" Guild Wars 2, and a "leet" Guild Wars where you have to pay for extra content. |
. There is a large difference between the BMP and the SF free addition. The BMP is exclusive, non-character cannonical material. As in: You can play the BMP as much as you damn well please, but it won't affect your character beyond being able to weild a few more shineys to show off. The SF had a massive impact on gameplay and material that your permanent characters could play in and evolve in. BMP (regardless of some peoples notion that bonus = free or that promotion = limited to one time only) only affects the permanent world by adding non-gameplay altering, "unfarmable", non-economy changing aesthetics. Therefore I feel that there can be a charge for it since it isn't game-altering.
I agree, since we aren't the "evil geniouses" in charge of ANet, that they could be using this as a vehicle for pay2play content, but I honestly think its merely aesthetic in nature while adding a fun little non-permanent side story to the game. It is not near the immersion factor of SF, but if they did charge for say, a new explorable area where Orr used to be and charged 10 dollars for that to have my main characters access, then I would dissapointed because that is merely pay2play in one form.
And since ANet is so adamant about their business plan, I doubt we will see that.
As for all the QQ about being lied to and all that fun stuff, I don't even want to stick my test the waters, thats hornets nest of overextended soothsayers and zealous defenders of the way.
Anduin
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Again: it wasn't...
GW:EN costed less on retail, therefore costing. I only think this would cause more QQ to be honest. At Witchblade: I think your post was kind of fuel for this argument...i seriously and undoubtably want this argument to stop... |
Don't assume that everywhere else had a cheaper price than the online price, because your area did.
It was 40-46.99 around where I live.
BigT
All i have to say is if you didnt SEE THIS COMING, then you are a complete R-Tard. Think it threw, Anet is producing a brand new game atm, they are putting all of their work into GW2 and are exsentialy going to stop working on GW. People are greedy, and they are going to want more money in the long run, and they are sitting on some missions that half the fanbase wants, and are willing to buy. You cant tell me you honestly didnt see this coming.
Neo Nugget
So they actually did it......
So are they just gonna rename it to the mission pack rather than bonus mission pack?
So are they just gonna rename it to the mission pack rather than bonus mission pack?
pint
I'm just so happy that I wasn't forced to spend money at a time that wasn't convenient for me. Now I only have to spend $10 at my leisure when you guys sunk $30. Sucks for you guys.
Offering the BMP for sale is the most amazing thing to happen to Guild Wars. Prove me wrong.
Offering the BMP for sale is the most amazing thing to happen to Guild Wars. Prove me wrong.
pygar
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Originally Posted by Drop of Fear
the last 2 days the bmp promotion was running a big banner camped gw login screen saying "these are the last few days for your to apply for the promotion and be eligible to play the bonus mission pack"
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ensoriki
People bought Iphones for 800 dollars was it?
Then apple dropped the price about 2 months after its release
People bought the PS3 for 800 now its 400 to 500
Same with xbox360
Same with the latest technology like graphics card and motherboards
OMFG I got it first...the price has to stay the same
Why is it 9$'s now T_T
Expect price drops whenever your a first release buyer
That is all.
Then apple dropped the price about 2 months after its release
People bought the PS3 for 800 now its 400 to 500
Same with xbox360
Same with the latest technology like graphics card and motherboards
OMFG I got it first...the price has to stay the same
Why is it 9$'s now T_T
Expect price drops whenever your a first release buyer
That is all.
Master Knightfall
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Maybe for you.
Don't assume that everywhere else had a cheaper price than the online price, because your area did. It was 40-46.99 around where I live. |
T. Drake
Well I gues it's good for me (although there is still the payment issue)
Bad for those who thought that this pack will be an exclusive offer.
Is it worth the money anyway?
Bad for those who thought that this pack will be an exclusive offer.
Is it worth the money anyway?
Phoenix Tears
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Originally Posted by Elisa
No, read my post. It should be hardest in Holland as we have no need for credit cards. Fact is, like in The States, anyone over 18 can apply for a credit card in Europe.
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But thats also naturally, as you mention it, something that regards in, what age you are.
warcrap
yay no more rip off.
Eugaet
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Originally Posted by ensoriki
People bought Iphones for 800 dollars was it?
Then apple dropped the price about 2 months after its release People bought the PS3 for 800 now its 400 to 500 Same with xbox360 Same with the latest technology like graphics card and motherboards OMFG I got it first...the price has to stay the same Why is it 9$'s now T_T Expect price drops whenever your a first release buyer That is all. |
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Originally Posted by Master Knightfall
Learn to have patience and wait and you'll get the same products everyone else gets for 1/2 or a 3rd of the price they pay.
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pygar
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Well I gues it's good for me (although there is still the payment issue)
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Have spent the most of my GW time so far in nightfall, cant wait to play the Turai Ossa versus Palawa Joko story.
Zehnchu
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You think this is a positive?
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Originally Posted by AW Lore
i disagree, yes the SF free update was nice and all, but Anet has to have a way to earn some money between campaigns, i mean, its not like they make this mission packs every month, and you dont have to buy the mission pack to keep playing the game or progress in the games storyline.
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Originally Posted by Two April Mornings
This sucks for all those who bought extra stuff to get "exclusive" content.
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Eugaet
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Originally Posted by Zehnchu
I like people who will blindly throw money they don’t need my way.
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Angelica
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Originally Posted by Icey
So why exactly are those upset, upset about? Because other people can buy the BMP now right? How is that not selfish again?
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Really, I don't care about the BMP being offered now, what I don't like was/is the way they promoted it. They gave the impression that if you did not take the BMP at that time you would miss it.
People cannot read and interpreter every words trying to discover hidden meaning, come on Anet be more clear in the future. I do not wish to have to check every words, like you do before you sign a contract, for every promotions they will offer.
Meh, my trust for them is really low at this moment.
/Angelica