BMP for sale

Shadow Spirit

Shadow Spirit

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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If they knew they were going to sell it, they should have just put it up for sale at the same time they ran the promotion.

Buy GWEN in the OL store = get the BMP for free

OR buy the BMP for 10 bucks

That's how it should have been back in November if they were going to do this.

No one would have bought extra character slots they didn't need. People who wanted their box would have gotten it. Everyone would have been happy.

I hope they keep this in mind for the future.

Icey

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
GW:EN costed more on retail therefore BMP wasn't free, it costed more on the online store obviously FOR the BMP. (GW:EN + BMP)



Bad wording on the retail purchase bit: i ment GW:EN, i will fix.

Anet NEVER told people to purchase GW:EN through the online store to receive the BMP, which is what you are implying. Anet said that if people spend over $39 dollars through their online store, the customer would receive the BMP. If you decided to purchase GW:EN for more than retail, its YOUR fault, not Anet. You should've bought something else not available at stores.

ajc2123

ajc2123

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Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Spirit
If they knew they were going to sell it, they should have just put it up for sale at the same time they ran the promotion.

Buy GWEN in the OL store = get the BMP for free

OR buy the BMP for 10 bucks

That's how it should have been back in November if they were going to do this.

No one would have bought extra character slots they didn't need. People who wanted their box would have gotten it. Everyone would have been happy.

I hope they keep this in mind for the future.
I agree on how that should have been ran.

Icey

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Spirit
If they knew they were going to sell it, they should have just put it up for sale at the same time they ran the promotion.

Buy GWEN in the OL store = get the BMP for free

OR buy the BMP for 10 bucks

That's how it should have been back in November if they were going to do this.

No one would have bought extra character slots they didn't need. People who wanted their box would have gotten it. Everyone would have been happy.

I hope they keep this in mind for the future.
that was actually their plan, it was customers who demanded the BMP to be sold that Anet decided to sell it. I'm pretty sure Anet will go through an experience process from now on though, specially when they see this thread.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Icey
Anet NEVER told people to purchase GW:EN through the online store to receive the BMP, which is what you are implying. Anet said that if people spend over $39 dollars through their online store, the customer would receive the BMP. If you decided to purchase GW:EN for more than retail, its YOUR fault, not Anet. You should've bought something else not available at stores.
You would of qualified anyway...
And stop with the 'YOUR fault' stuff, thats all you say to people who bought GW:EN on the online store for the BMP, and not buying it on retail.
For the 'You should've bought something else not available at stores.' bit, maybe i don't NEED extra character slots?
Maybe i don't WANT them either?

Dark-NighT

Dark-NighT

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Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Spirit
If they knew they were going to sell it, they should have just put it up for sale at the same time they ran the promotion.

Buy GWEN in the OL store = get the BMP for free

OR buy the BMP for 10 bucks

That's how it should have been back in November if they were going to do this.

No one would have bought extra character slots they didn't need. People who wanted their box would have gotten it. Everyone would have been happy.

I hope they keep this in mind for the future.
That would have been the best solution.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Icey
Anet NEVER told people to purchase GW:EN through the online store to receive the BMP, which is what you are implying. Anet said that if people spend $29 [fixed] dollars through their online store, the customer would receive the BMP. If you decided to purchase GW:EN for more than retail, its YOUR fault, not Anet. You should've bought something else not available at stores.
LOL. The only other thing offered was Bonus Character Slots. And many people who wanted the BMP already had as many of those as they wanted.

The Skill Packs were pulled off the on-line store, only to have reduced prices released after the BMP deal was over.

All in all, this was poorly done. I now have more bonus slots than I know what to do with, and I'm short $20.

But I guess I should be thankful Guild Wars doesn't cost a monthly fee....

Eugaet

Eugaet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

US

Righteous Apathy [RA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Icey
If you decided to purchase GW:EN for more than retail, its YOUR fault, not Anet. You should've bought something else not available at stores.
Well, it's YOUR fault you didn't get the BMP early like me because you weren't playing! So neener neener!

pygar...seriously...how much to ship the box?

EDIT: Yeah, I've already got more character slots than I use. I was really hoping they would have had mugs or sweatshirts or something during the promo. Then I would have spent $29+ to get the BMP plus $40 retail for the physical copy of GWEN...and have been absolutely pleased about it. And I would not care one iota if they sold the BMP later. I don't even care now! I just need a box.

Icey

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
You would of qualified anyway...
And stop with the 'YOUR fault' stuff, thats all you say to people who bought GW:EN on the online store for the BMP, and not buying it on retail.
For the 'You should've bought something else not available at stores.' bit, maybe i don't NEED extra character slots?
Maybe i don't WANT them either?

Well maybe you should stop complaining?

Maybe you don't want the box?

you make it seem like you wanted a box so bad, but even though you had that opportunity, you chose not to get it. You still have an option to buy a box, so why be upset about people who didn't have the option to get the BMP, and now do? Stop being selfish.

artay

artay

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

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Yay for all the Q's, I think I'll buy it now :O

pygar

pygar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

KORM

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eugaet
Well, it's YOUR fault you didn't get the BMP early like me because you weren't playing! So neener neener!

pygar...seriously...how much to ship the box?
Wish it was in good enough shape to really sell it to you, but its not..I dont collect stuff as much as just pack-rat stuff....Plus it was actually the GW platinum box not just EOTN.

Icey

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eugaet
Well, it's YOUR fault you didn't get the BMP early like me because you weren't playing! So neener neener!

pygar...seriously...how much to ship the box?

LOL, I never said it wasn't my fault for not buying it back then. But now I have the option, the same option that you have to buy a box. You don't see me making a thread complaining. If I have a complaint , I email Anet, which I did and now I am going to buy the BMP

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

This is just another BMP whine thread. Only now the roles are reversed, is there really any point, we're just discussing the same things AGAIN.

If there's one thing I think we can all agree on, the promotion was a terrible idea and was handled very poorly. Hopefully if they do something similar again, they make it available in a more sensible way, but the fact is the way it was done was always going to leave some people unhappy. Making it available to everyone VIA the ingame store was the best move they could make at this point, IMO.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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It's worth $10, IMO.

But not worth $30.

Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind
Making it available to everyone VIA the ingame store was the best move they could make at this point, IMO.
Making the $29 promotion available would have been the best thing they could do. Might actually get people to buy their stupid skill packs.

Eugaet

Eugaet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

US

Righteous Apathy [RA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Icey
LOL, I never said it wasn't my fault for not buying it back then. But now I have the option, the same option that you have to buy a box. You don't see me making a thread complaining. If I have a complaint , I email Anet, which I did and now I am going to buy the BMP
Yes, it's exactly the same. You pay $10 more and I pay $40 more. Everyone is happy.

ajc2123

ajc2123

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

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Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind
This is just another BMP whine thread. Only now the roles are reversed, is there really any point, we're just discussing the same things AGAIN.

If there's one thing I think we can all agree on, the promotion was a terrible idea and was handled very poorly. Hopefully if they do something similar again, they make it available in a more sensible way, but the fact is the way it was done was always going to leave some people unhappy. Making it available to everyone VIA the ingame store was the best move they could make at this point, IMO.
amen to that. We still got people who want Divine aura...i mean i do....cuz it would be cool, but it wouldnt be right to others so im fine without it lol

Showtime

Showtime

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTB Q9+5e Bows/Q8 14^50 Weapons

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Oh well, it was nice while it lasted.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rift
Oh come on guys. We got it for free, and before everyone else. Asking for anything more is just being greedy.

I think it's great news that more people will be able to get their hands on this wonderful addition.

I also hope that this precedent set by Anet propagates to other small account additions that could be distributed by micro-transactions (like upgrading to a collector's edition for 5 bucks )

You think this is a positive?
Stuff like SF used to be given for free. I think this is the exact opposite direction, adding more and more content at a charge is inching closer and closer to "monthly fee" style of payment structure.

Icey

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
LOL. The only other thing offered was Bonus Character Slots. And many people who wanted the BMP already had as many of those as they wanted.

The Skill Packs were pulled off the on-line store, only to have reduced prices released after the BMP deal was over.

All in all, this was poorly done. I now have more bonus slots than I know what to do with, and I'm short $20.

But I guess I should be thankful Guild Wars doesn't cost a monthly fee....
I don't know if you ever purchased things in advance in the real world, but those things usually have a premium price.

ajc2123

ajc2123

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
You think this is a positive?
Stuff like SF used to be given for free. I think this is the exact opposite direction, adding more and more content at a charge is inching closer and closer to "monthly fee" style of payment structure.
But its not, plus games with monthly fees also have to pay for their upgrades, so we still get the better deal.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ajc2123
But its not, plus games with monthly fees also have to pay for their upgrades, so we still get the better deal.
So, instead of paying $15 a month, we pay $40 for an "expansion" that probably wasn't worth $40, and $10 - $30 for a BMP?

The only thing saving Guild Wars is the fact it's free to play. If it's pay-to-play with bonuses, then it loses some luster. Sadly, I think that's the direction that GW2 is headed towards - some kind of free-to-play "basic" Guild Wars 2, and a "leet" Guild Wars where you have to pay for extra content.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind
Making it available to everyone VIA the ingame store was the best move they could make at this point, IMO.
No it isn't. Many potential customers will never buy from the ingame store because they don't want to link their GW account to a PlayNC account like the ingame store forces to happen for those who use it. And also because they don't want the online store having their CC info. etc. etc. Many potential customers did not buy the BMP in the original promotion precisely for those reasons, and would likewise never buy it from the ingame store in the future either.

ajc2123

ajc2123

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mammoth
Objection! Look up the MMO called EVE Online.
Sorry im not familiar with that one XP But i do know that WoW already charges a monthly fee + more for its expansion + one mroe thats coming out

AW Lore

AW Lore

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

Ancient Warriors Gaming Clan

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
You think this is a positive?
Stuff like SF used to be given for free. I think this is the exact opposite direction, adding more and more content at a charge is inching closer and closer to "monthly fee" style of payment structure.
i disagree, yes the SF free update was nice and all, but Anet has to have a way to earn some money between campaigns, i mean, its not like they make this mission packs every month, and you dont have to buy the mission pack to keep playing the game or progress in the games storyline.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
So I've been lied to and now stabbed in the back.

Gaile, no amount of spin doctoring and double talk will cover the fact that you are a fraud.

I've learned a lesson about Anet. One I won't forget.
This goes too far in the other direction - unless you have a quote from Gaile saying the BMP would never be available for retail sale, you have no grounds for your lie.

ajc2123

ajc2123

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by AW Lore
i disagree, yes the SF free update was nice and all, but Anet has to have a way to earn some money between campaigns, i mean, its not like they make this mission packs every month, and you dont have to buy the mission pack to keep playing the game or progress in the games storyline.
I hate to be bothersome but what is this free SF update? all i can think of is searing flames >_<

Drop of Fear

Drop of Fear

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
This goes too far in the other direction - unless you have a quote from Gaile saying the BMP would never be available for retail sale, you have no grounds for your lie.
the last 2 days the bmp promotion was running a big banner camped gw login screen saying "these are the last few days for your to apply for the promotion and be eligible to play the bonus mission pack"

can't go wrong when such a banner camps your game login window

Icey

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

Honestly, the only real complaint to Anet would be to increase inventory slots, yet I have yet to see those....

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

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Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

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Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
So I've been lied to and now stabbed in the back.

Gaile, no amount of spin doctoring and double talk will cover the fact that you are a fraud.

I've learned a lesson about Anet. One I won't forget.
A tad on the bitter side

Companies make money, thats life

Whats "lied to" all about? ive yet to see the "we wont sell it" quote.

AW Lore

AW Lore

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

Ancient Warriors Gaming Clan

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ajc2123
I hate to be bothersome but what is this free SF update? all i can think of is searing flames >_<
the full name is "Sorrows Furnance", its a pve area where the green weapons dropped from bosses where first to appear, it was a free update back in the 2005, it was an update to an area of Tyria (prophecies campaign).

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Once again: we didn't, it costed less on retail GW:EN.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Again: it wasn't...
GW:EN costed less on retail, therefore costing.
It's cost not costed.

On topic.....this has all been said before with different sides crying. Whining and crying aren't going to change anything so let's just stop.

sindex

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

Well I am not bothered by this a bit. It’s only PR marketing the first time, so that way the money could go straight to A-net with the release of EotN. They are now just picking up any lost revenue they can take from the BMP. This was not unexpected to me, given that A-net is just a corporation.

It’s just like when I see the Xbox 360 or PC only logo’s stamped on a retail box; I know sooner or latter that will become obsolete.

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Where are people getting the idea from that this would never be available again? Unless someone wants to give an actual source, I believe they NEVER said that. In fact, Gaile said numerous times that she was unsure if it would be released later, but it would be a possibility.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
So, instead of paying $15 a month, we pay $40 for an "expansion" that probably wasn't worth $40, and $10 - $30 for a BMP?[/RIGHT]

The only thing saving Guild Wars is the fact it's free to play. If it's pay-to-play with bonuses, then it loses some luster. Sadly, I think that's the direction that GW2 is headed towards - some kind of free-to-play "basic" Guild Wars 2, and a "leet" Guild Wars where you have to pay for extra content.
I mentioned this earlier, but again, I have to say, I'm all for this approach. I have no problems paying for additional content that I actually want and I'm going to use, as opposed to the WoW style of paying for everything constantly, even when you're not playing.

If you don't want the expansions, you don't need to spend any more money. But if you want some extra content, it's there for you. Much better than paying monthly, in my opinion, especially now as 90% of PC games are MMO's, it's just becoming impossible to play more than a single game at a time. Due to subscription fees.

ajc2123

ajc2123

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by AW Lore
the full name is "Sorrows Furnance", its a pve area where the green weapons dropped from bosses where first to appear, it was a free update back in the 2005, it was an update to an area of Tyria (prophecies campaign).
Oh yea i remember that, i just couldn't think of it since i haven't been there in forever. Lol seriously people please spell everything out, i get way too confused with so many abbreviations lol.

Zinger314

Zinger314

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Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Surprising? Definately not. ArenaNet needs to milk as much money as possible.

Releasing BMP to stores to further increase profits: Wait, what?

Two April Mornings

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Amherst College, MA

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This sucks for all those who bought extra stuff to get "exclusive" content.

Of course ANET wants to make money, but going back on their slogan/word of "exclusive" is quite lame.

ADDED: And Of course as well they removed the old page that said that BMP was a limited time offer--wouldn't want too much legal trouble? (not sure).

Elisa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

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And the thing about people whining it was "so impossible" to get in Europe is straight bollocks, too. I'm from The Netherlands, probably one of the most digitalized-money countries in the world, where everything is ran through the PIN-system and hardly anyone ever carries loose change. This means we hardly ever use credit cards also, as we have a PIN for everything. It was still childishly easy to obtain a credit card and anyone could have done it.

Juno Onuj

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Colorado

I Believe You But My Tommy Gun [Dont]

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I'll sell someone my game packaging for $10.

XiaoTheBlade

XiaoTheBlade

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Join Date: Apr 2007

Southern England

Reign Of Shadows

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BMP looks shit anyway, doubt I'll buy it. Glad I got GWEN for 12.99 in a local shop, even though gwen fails.

tmr819

tmr819

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
Sadly, I think that's the direction that GW2 is headed towards - some kind of free-to-play "basic" Guild Wars 2, and a "leet" Guild Wars where you have to pay for extra content.
Happily, I hope you're right. WoW had me paying for a lot of "leet" content I was never able to play. GW does the same thing (UW, FoW, etc.) just not to such an extent as WoW. If I had had a choice (i.e., if these areas had been offered as add-ons [like the BMP]), I would not have purchased UW, FoW, The Deep, Urgoz' Warren, etc.