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Free Runner

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

GW2G

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

26 Jan 2008 at 00:43 - 521

Quote:

Originally Posted by RotteN

The outpost part of that map is the top left part : the boat and the land just infront of it. Then there's a small "river" seperating it from the actual arena, where the fights were held (which is still one of the maps in rotation).

I know. After reading the post abit i've realised that Shawn The Divine was talking about the upper left part of the map being the original CA outpost : Not that the picture shown in Curse You's post was from the old CA.

The post he quoted was saying that the CA outpost looked nothing like this one:

^ That was the picture i was talking about in my post.

This whole Xunlai thing is getting me confused.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

26 Jan 2008 at 01:19 - 522

Posted as screenshot, otherwise people would say I'm making it up.

boogerboy72

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2007

[Scar]

N/Me

26 Jan 2008 at 01:22 - 523

lol, that makes me smile.

Shawn The Divine

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Nova Scotia

My Other Healer Is Lvl Eighty

Mo/W

26 Jan 2008 at 01:32 - 524

Quote:

Originally Posted by RotteN

The outpost part of that map is the top left part : the boat and the land just infront of it. Then there's a small "river" seperating it from the actual arena, where the fights were held (which is still one of the maps in rotation).

The old Competition Outpost and the arena map are one and the same. Actually, way back, every arena had it's own outpost and purpose. Was something like :
Ascalon Arena: 4v4 random arena
Shiverpeak Arena: 4v4 random arena
D'Alessio Arena: 6v6 random arena
Fort Koga : 4v4 random arena
Amnoon Arena: 6v6 team arena
Deldrimor Arena: 4v4 team arena

later on they just merged the bunch of maps into competition arena and kept drok's as team arena

I've taken the liberty of taking the D'Alessio Arena picture, and outlining the section were the Comp Arenas outpost was, complete with showing where the CA/LA portal was.

We all clear now? No Xunlai Marketplace there, aite? Moving on...

Ebeneezersquid

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

PWNT 2.0

N/

26 Jan 2008 at 06:01 - 525

Speaking for myself, If GW2 went Pay-to-Play I would either keep playing GW1 or find a decent Korean Pay-for-Fancy-Dress-Free-To-Play.

I hate to be "forced" to play a game everyday to ensure that I "Get my moneys worth."

Of Course, The Ebeneezer in my name isn't coincidence. I love the sound of screaming Pennys.

Verteiron

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ether Jar

Me/Rt

26 Jan 2008 at 07:51 - 526

Everyone's examining the textures and text, no one's extracted the music yet? There's a ton of music in the file that you can't get from DirectSong, including the Christmas tune. Sort by size and start extracting sound files. There are several very fast-paced tune that sound almost like the Nightfall battle music, but without any instrument but the drums. There are quite a few bits of Factions music composed by one "Robert Ridihalgh". There are some truly eerie bits of music that I believe are associated with Abaddon and the Domain of Fleshy Gobbets with Hair On Them, but that I don't recall hearing anywhere in-game.

If others on this thread are correct, then the ID# and such of everyone's file is different. However, file sizes should be the same, so here are a couple of interesting tunes you should be able to find if you sort by size:

Wintersday Theme:
#:55934 - Size: 1138924
Creepy Abaddon-esque music:
#:97252 - Size: 1024420
#:97205 - Size: 1080132
#:97263 - Size: 982968
Drumbeats:
#:81730 - Size: 1051392
#:81729 - Size: 1098064
#:126976 - Size: 1473168
Really STRANGE creepy drumbeat:
#:90303 - Size: 1162664

Like I said, your #'s may be different, but sorting by filesize should lead you to them...

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

26 Jan 2008 at 09:30 - 527

Heh, I extracted the music long ago. There are a few tracks missing from the official DirectSong packs that really should have made it in.

1. Kaineng Center (also on Factions preorder CD)
2. Audience of Heroes (one of the songs that plays in the Crystal Desert + Catacombs)
3. The holiday music
4. Some NF battle music

Verteiron

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ether Jar

Me/Rt

26 Jan 2008 at 23:40 - 528

Interestingly enough, Robert Ridihalgh did a lot of the music in Factions, including some of what I would consider to be the defining tunes. The Kaineng Center theme that plays throughout the entire city is his, as is most of the Shing Jea field music and some of the cinematics. And if I hadn't extracted those tracks I would have continued to assume it was all Jeremy Soule...

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

26 Jan 2008 at 23:56 - 529

I think Ridihalgh works on the sound team and implemented the songs. "Zen Daijun," or "Rural Unrest Victory" in the dat, appears in the DirectSong pack under Soule's name. Obviously, I'm conjecturing at who the real artist is, but neither version (DS or dat) credits the other.

According to the file data from the Factions preorder CD, Soule also did the "Kaineng Center," "Age of the Dragon," and other Shing Jea music. It's a bit of a puzzle how the Raisu Palace music ended up under the name of the former in the official soundtrack release.

Quote:

Wintersday Theme:
#:55934 - Size: 1138924
Creepy Abaddon-esque music:
#:97252 - Size: 1024420
#:97205 - Size: 1080132
#:97263 - Size: 982968
Drumbeats:
#:81730 - Size: 1051392
#:81729 - Size: 1098064
#:126976 - Size: 1473168
Really STRANGE creepy drumbeat:
#:90303 - Size: 1162664

My sizes don't match yours. Are those compressed sizes, extracted sizes, sizes on disk...?
Also, the drumbeats can often be heard in Obs Mode, Colossal farming in Zehlon Reach, and "The Hidden City" from the NF preorder CD can be heard in the Sunspear Arena lobby.

Verteiron

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ether Jar

Me/Rt

27 Jan 2008 at 00:14 - 530

Those are the filesizes as presented to me by GWDatBrowser.exe, prior to extraction. The filesizes of the extracted MP3s are, unsurprisingly, slightly larger and useless for searching inside the file.

Also, I noticed that the filename given to the MP3 by GWDatBrowser is one less than the # it shows inside the file. For example, the Wintersday music got extracted as 55933_Sound.mp3, but is listed by GWDatBrowser as #55934. I'm assuming this is a bug in the dat browser.

Operative 14

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Arizona, USA

[OOP] Order of the Phoenix I

27 Jan 2008 at 02:30 - 531

Could someone tell me what I need to do to extract the music? I've always wanted copies of some of those peices!

Antitorgo

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Duty

Mo/Me

27 Jan 2008 at 02:51 - 532

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verteiron

Those are the filesizes as presented to me by GWDatBrowser.exe, prior to extraction. The filesizes of the extracted MP3s are, unsurprisingly, slightly larger and useless for searching inside the file.

Also, I noticed that the filename given to the MP3 by GWDatBrowser is one less than the # it shows inside the file. For example, the Wintersday music got extracted as 55933_Sound.mp3, but is listed by GWDatBrowser as #55934. I'm assuming this is a bug in the dat browser.

Yeah the # in the code is 0 based, but displayed on the table it is 1 based.

Oddly enough, the CRCs for the files are there, it just doesn't display them. I've modified my version to display the CRCs (plus I have it saving the CRCs off to a file and comparing them to later versions so I can see what has changed from build to build huzzah!).

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

27 Jan 2008 at 03:34 - 533

May it's due the file format of the disc.

Files in NTFS take more room than in FAT32, and files in FAT32 use more real disc space than in FAT.

So the real size becomes more once extracted.

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

27 Jan 2008 at 04:30 - 534

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn The Divine

Since apparently people are still being retarded, I've taken the liberty of taking the D'Alessio Arena picture, and outlining the section were the Comp Arenas outpost was, complete with showing where the CA/LA portal was.

We all clear now? No Xunlai Marketplace there, aite? Moving on...

Yeap thats the old level 20 RA outpost.

MoriaOrc

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

27 Jan 2008 at 04:35 - 535

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

May it's due the file format of the disc.

Files in NTFS take more room than in FAT32, and files in FAT32 use more real disc space than in FAT.

So the real size becomes more once extracted.

If this is about the indexing on the music, it's just a matter of representation. The program counts from 0 (the first item in the dat is index 0 in the programs way of thinking), but shows you the files counting from one (the first item in the dat is index 1 when displayed on the file list). The inconsistency is because the files are named with the programs internal representation, instead of the one you are used to seeing.

If it's about something else, never then here's an extra explanation of why, anyway!

Tangential note:
For those of you who have GW on a FAT32 file system, the maximum size of a file is 4 GB, and the dat file is getting awful close.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

27 Jan 2008 at 04:41 - 536

Mine is 4.2Gb now...

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

R/

27 Jan 2008 at 05:04 - 537

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoriaOrc

For those of you who have GW on a FAT32 file system, the maximum size of a file is 4 GB, and the dat file is getting awful close.

Hmm, good point. I wonder how many of the "My GW don't work" threads in Tech Corner that explains?

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

28 Jan 2008 at 21:18 - 538

Anyone found anything new with the updates?

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

28 Jan 2008 at 23:34 - 539

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Mine is 4.2Gb now...

How is that? I just -imaged and only have 3.56 Gb.

shrouded^god

IGN: J C A C H E

Join Date: Sep 2006

843

[Liar]

28 Jan 2008 at 23:37 - 540

Yup mines at 4.26GB...maybe it has to do with the amount of time its been installed on the system.

MoriaOrc

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

28 Jan 2008 at 23:57 - 541

Mines 3.8 GB about.

Maybe they remove things from the dat file occasionally, so that newer installs don't download them any more but older ones that got them while they were live content still have them.

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

Mo/

29 Jan 2008 at 00:10 - 542

Quote:

Originally Posted by Operative 14

Could someone tell me what I need to do to extract the music? I've always wanted copies of some of those peices!

Find the sound you want, right click it and "Export Raw Data"

Then save it somewhere.

Absolute_Zero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Ontario, Canada

치 The Spearmen 치

R/W

29 Jan 2008 at 00:52 - 543

I got 3.56GB, seems like mines is pretty streamlined compared to some peoples(I did use -image btw)

Ekelon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rebel Rising [rawr]

A/W

29 Jan 2008 at 03:24 - 544

Quote:

Originally Posted by Absolute_Zero

I got 3.56GB, seems like mines is pretty streamlined compared to some peoples(I did use -image btw)

<-- 4.5GB here. I did -image to get kuntz's mod working... but now it's bugged cuz of the new updates.

Operative 14

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Arizona, USA

[OOP] Order of the Phoenix I

29 Jan 2008 at 04:41 - 545

Quote:

Originally Posted by holababe

Find the sound you want, right click it and "Export Raw Data"

Then save it somewhere.

Yeah, though one wonders how to access the .dat file to get to said piece; this thread is filled with people exploring the .dat, but woefully short of people explaining how to do so.

MoriaOrc

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

29 Jan 2008 at 04:51 - 546

Quote:

Originally Posted by Operative 14

Yeah, though one wonders how to access the .dat file to get to said piece; this thread is filled with people exploring the .dat, but woefully short of people explaining how to do so.

There's a few replies on the first couple pages linking to an archive with the GWDatBrowser. It has an executable, and the source for the thing. Just run the executable and you'll be going, most people probably won't be interested in the source code.

Juhanah

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

in my house

29 Jan 2008 at 05:20 - 547

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silly Warrior

I never managed to translate those correctly.. it always end up non-sens.
It popped up all the time in RO2 Beta.. maybe every games in Korea have those pop-up

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

29 Jan 2008 at 08:39 - 548

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekelon

<-- 4.5GB here. I did -image to get kuntz's mod working... but now it's bugged cuz of the new updates.

There's a new version now.
3.64 GB. It hasn't really grown much.

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

29 Jan 2008 at 11:28 - 549

If you've installed GW client with any CD prior to Nightfall, you're using a "bloated DAT" version of the game. There's no different other than the bigger DAT, really. The only way to fix this is to install the game with Nightfall CD (DVD) or newer and do -image. Optimal DAT size is currently at 3.54gb.

The reason for this (according to an official answer from Anet's developer from a long time ago) is that Prophecies (and probably Factions too) installer contains some bugs that will cause the DAT file to accumulate some redundant data in it, resulting in a larger DAT file (the redundant data are from Prophecies CD of course). Normally it would eventually shrink down with time (again, according to Anet). But you can do as mentioned above just to fix the problem right away.

Back then, somebody did post a way to tell newer installers to "salvage" the usable data from your current DAT file and make a new, unbloated one without re-downloading. But I can't remember the exact step, just that it has something to do with telling the installer to use the data source (which normally would be from the CD) from your DAT file instead.

Hope this help clearing it up.

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

29 Jan 2008 at 12:44 - 550

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cacheelma

Optimal DAT size is currently at 3.54gb.

Are you sure? I reinstalled last week and have .56, not .54.

RO2 = Ragnarok Online 2? They look like 3D Gaia avatars.

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

29 Jan 2008 at 13:37 - 551

Well, I'd say small variations like that can happen. Mine was -image for the newest update and (gasp) I reinstalled the game using Nightfall DVD just this Saturday.

CougarTheTall

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dallas, TX

The Blood Spikers

N/Mo

30 Jan 2008 at 22:19 - 552

So.......I take it everything to be found has been found?

Thread died, pity, it was an awesome thread.

Antitorgo

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Duty

Mo/Me

30 Jan 2008 at 22:41 - 553

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

Are you sure? I reinstalled last week and have .56, not .54.

The icon for items in your bags are downloaded on-demand. So file-size variation is normal and expected.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

30 Jan 2008 at 23:35 - 554

Quote:

Originally Posted by CougarTheTall

So.......I take it everything to be found has been found?

Thread died, pity, it was an awesome thread.

Hardly. Pratically every single texture in the game is in there. It is just a matter of using discression to only post what is "interesting."

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

31 Jan 2008 at 02:11 - 555

Its not dead...we just haven't found anything else interesting yet.

Keep looking guys.

Antitorgo

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Duty

Mo/Me

31 Jan 2008 at 20:35 - 556

Some new stuff:

New textures for animals (ox, snake, tiger, pig). Oddly they aren't in color but more a sepia tone. But I'm guessing they are for the Year of the X Canthan New Year type stuff.

A new title track (keeping this one unnamed for now, but looks interesting), I'm sure someone else will find it and post it later.

Year of the X strings (for Canthan New Year)

3rd b-day present strings

Maximumraver

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Netherlands

Twisted Revenge [TR]

E/

31 Jan 2008 at 21:28 - 557

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekelon

<-- 4.5GB here. I did -image to get kuntz's mod working... but now it's bugged cuz of the new updates.

<--- 4.2 GB here.

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

31 Jan 2008 at 21:30 - 558

3.8 gb big
i gotta delete it end this month and redownload cuz of the npc jumping around bug

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

31 Jan 2008 at 21:31 - 559

Apologies if this has already been posted, but I found those weird swords:

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...cket/gw121.jpg

They're merchant display in Gunnar's Hold.

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

31 Jan 2008 at 21:38 - 560

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Apologies if this has already been posted, but I found those weird swords:

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...cket/gw121.jpg

They're merchant display in Gunnar's Hold.

i'll take the middle one ty

nonetheless
are those real to use ingame?
if not i smell another petition coming up