Temple of the Damned: 2man Farm (Any Profession)

Air of Superiority. The chance of a full skill recharge is pretty good. Also the condition removal is very nice. This skill can speed up a run in CoF (TotD).

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Hi, I was hoping to try this since I'm getting bored with the stuff that I usually farm, but I am having a small problem. The first maybe 3 guys die really fast, but after that, Retribution and all the -10's have eaten all of the monk's energy and it takes like 1-2 minutes for the rest of the enemies to die without Retribution and with just Holy Wrath.

I'm sure I'm just misunderstanding something but I don't know what. BTW I am using the Ele build, that part works well but things just don't die fast enough.

Also, I tried to watch your vid, Simple Farmer, but your site is down. Total bummer.

Hm.. I'm trying to understand your first paragraph, and am failing. It -sounds- like your monk isn't maintaining the enchantments. First off, hold SHIFT and then Click all the Monk-Smiter's skills so they have a red O and / through the skills. Then begin applying them to -you- so they are -always- on. Retribution first, then Holy Wrath, then whatever other enchantments you use. Hope that helps, if not, please let us know so that we can further investigate whats going wrong.

Nope, he does have Holy Wrath on me, as well as the other maintained enchants. I have them disabled so that he can't cast or un-cast them unless I click it.

Holy Wrath says it subtracts 10 energy from whoever is maintaining the enchantment (the smiter) whenever it does damage to the enemy, so if the smiter has 50 energy, Holy Wrath only dishes damage 5 times before it can't subtract energy from the smiter anymore and (apparently?) stops doing anything. Then all there is dealing any damage is Retribution, which isn't terribly fast to kill stuff with on its own.

I'm sure I've misunderstood something with the energy management of the smiter build but I can't figure out what it is. I mean, from what I can tell, there is no energy management other than blessed sig. I saw a video on youtube by a different 600/smite guy but it didn't show the smiter's energy bar so I don't know if the smiter is supposed to run out of energy in 3 seconds or not.

Ok, as long as the smiter is only maintaining 4 enchants on you, it doesn't matter if the smiter stays at 0 energy or not. If you are maintaining more than that, it'll drop one or more of the enchants to compensate when he reaches 0. As long as you can look at the hero bar and see it has Holy Wrath, and Retribution, and the other 2 maintains still cast on -you- then all is well, and they will die in a few more seconds. Otherwise, I'll just have to meet you in game to see if I can figure out what you're talking about. Let me know.

I only have the 4 enchantments on me, so ok, at least I didn't mess up something that obvious. It seemed like something was wrong with the way stuff died, in the video they all died in maybe 5-10 seconds every time, when I do it the first 3 guys die in about 5 seconds and the other 3-4 guys take like 15-20 seconds to die (unless it's a warrior!) and die almost one-at-a-time, so like a minute more after the first guys die until the last enemy of the group is dead. Does that sound right? I got fed up and quit after taking entirely too long to even get to the first charr keyholder guy every time I tried the farm run.
I thought maybe it would help to switch to normal mode but they die slower because they attack even slower there.

If that sounds messed up, yeah I think I'll need some help or at least to be pointed at other videos that I should watch to look for hints.

With the update to RoD to 3s recharge and with hard mode increasing the speed of the recharge it could very well be a longer time to kill things. It took me more than a minute to kill 6 banshees in one group. This was because they were spamming RoD on each other. When I was in the middle of that group I had to look up to make sure that I had the enchantments up and they were. Then I took a close look at the enemies around. Not only were there 6 banshees but there were others that would not stay hitting on me. They would come in and swipe once and run back to the edge of the aggro bubble. It really did look like one of those old martial arts movies where they would wait until someone got hit away and then the next person would come in for their shot.

Video's can be misleading, because most of them are played back faster than real-time. One more possibility -> You are in Hard Mode right? Other than that, add me to your friends list and keep an eye out for me when I get online later tonight after work.

IGN: Beast Creed

Wow, that's a lot of helpful hints!

Yes, using Hard Mode. Thought maybe the guy's video was normal mode but I tried normal mode and the enemies die even slower because they don't attack as fast, so I was like WTF mine's broken in either mode. Also did not consider that the video was on fast forward when showing the enemies die, that's probably part of the problem now that you guys mention it.

The other problem is like Incandecree said, stuff will run up, swipe at me, and then flee, come swipe, flee more, so that's why the damn things won't die quickly. Warriors die super good and rangers die decently (o hai troll ungent) and other stuff dying at a decent speed is a crapshoot as to whether or not they will keep crying and running away instead. I hadn't thought of the new skill updates causing that so it makes sense.

Thanks Larcen, I am working 2 jobs today though so chances are good that I won't be on GW today or that you will be off GW when it's 1AM eastern time. I can do GW tomorrow or the weekend though for sure. I really appreciate the offer!

Dumb Question: Do I maybe not have enough health? It says 600/smite and I have about 680 health with the enchants on, I didn't buy a more expensive vigor since I figured I had plenty extra health. Does it make a big difference to have higher health than that? If so, what is the ideal range of health to have?

600 doesn't deal max damage, around 800ish does (I think, my math could be wrong) However, anything above 600 will do just fine against undead since they take double damage anyhow. You're right, I'll be heading bed here shortly, however I am online quite a bit on the weekends starting Friday night, usually can be found in ToA with ASF (lately anyway) farming UW, however I still manage to venture North to Doomlore. Let me know when you're on and I'll join you.

I typically start with 686 health. That is 211 health from Vital Blessing. When I end the dungeon I have 734 health.

The optimum health is actually 740. The reason for this is 16 in smite. Holy Wrath is 53 and Retribution is 21. 740 damage at 10% is 74... which is exactly the amount HW and Retribution deal back.