Should we have some way of showing our "real" level ingame?
Drop of Fear
i would be exactly level 2881. would be fun to see in towns our xp level, but ye meaning nothing as u can easily farm/bot all the points
Painbringer
You can for a quick estimate put your pointer over your skill points and it tells you how many you have used and also ho many you have. Granted the bonus points from quests and other things will throw things off a bit.
I agree it would be neat to actually see (kinda make me want to grind 200 / 300 / etc..)
I agree it would be neat to actually see (kinda make me want to grind 200 / 300 / etc..)
Molock
I think this is a horrible idea... if this happens certain idiots will start to associate level with skill.
Bryant Again
I know plenty that associate Luxon and Kurzick titles with skill : \ there's not much of a difference (besides the PvE skills tied to those titles, of course.)
makosi
This is what distinguishes GW from the rest of the compulsory grind games like WoW. There's an Experience Milestone thread in the Screenshot Expo to brag about XP but it will only cause XP elitism in game.
Malice Black
Want to grind level?
Here ya go. http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/index.xml
Yeah you gotta pay...don't wanna pay? stfu
Here ya go. http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/index.xml
Yeah you gotta pay...don't wanna pay? stfu
Lady Lozza
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Originally Posted by StormDragonZ
Do the math:
Take the max number of skill points you've earned and subtract 21. |
Best way to calculate it would be from XP itself.
((Total xp - xp required to reach lvl20)/xp required to lvl at lvl20) + 20 = LVL
Since I'm pretty sure xp required to reach lvl20 = xp required to lvl at lvl20 it simplifies to:
-> (Total xp/xp required to lvl at lvl20) + 19 = LVL
Yes we still need a calculator for it but most of us will have one installed on our computers
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Molock
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
I know plenty that associate Luxon and Kurzick titles with skill : \ there's not much of a difference (besides the PvE skills tied to those titles, of course.)
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Just like the GWEN titles btw...
Age
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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
Actually it isnt from my experience. Im still yet to see a single PUG not accept a player simple based on their GWEN title rank! The last I checked, people as low as Drawf rank 1 were still being accepted into Glints challenge PUGs and it didnt have any impact at all on whether it won or lost.
People really do over react to titles and assume others will judge them on their ranks and they simply dont in pve. If they do, then you tell them to get stuffed and grow up. Yes it may add some dmg or protection points to a pve only skill, but no part of the pve game requires pve only skills to be completed. I accept there may be some players would turn around and use this function to say "ooo your only lvl50, hahahaha".... but would you honestly want to PUG or even talk to a person like that? I would just ignore them, leave the pug and find someone else to play with! This is what guilds are for! What a lot of people ingame and in society dont realise, is that people only behave with childish attitudes because we allow them to and we allow them inpact and influence us. If you enter a PUG and someone judges you for your title, and you then run out and spend hours farming points to increase it then your bassically letting them win! Just tell people who try to force builds on you, or force you to increase ranks to get stuffed and grow up! If everyone did that, they would soon realise to stop and just enjoy the game instead of trying to control people. |
~ Dan ~
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Originally Posted by Age
What some have said to me is rank means nothing when pugging in HA.
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LuckyGiant
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
so why are there titles?
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Though from some stuff I've read, the level cap of 20 is a significant turn off for some players looking to play guild wars and I guess research by Anet has shown the same thing, hence the change for GW2.
TyrianFury
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Originally Posted by Faith Angelis
One million, two million and three million XP emotes?
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LuckyGiant
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Originally Posted by TyrianFury
COOL, nice idea I'd vote for that why should pvp people get emotes only. Some type of emote for pve players would be wicked!
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Sorry, couldn't help myself
Ruricu
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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
That's because HA is full of unranked retards, and r9 retards.
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The fact of the matter is that it is human nature to try to compare yourself to others, and compulsory to try to be better than them. This will never change, and encouraging it is foolish.
Rhedd
Give titles. They could be like...
Kinda Bored
Unemployed
Utterly Lifeless
Eternal Virgin
etc.
Kinda Bored
Unemployed
Utterly Lifeless
Eternal Virgin
etc.
baz777
I have 11,000,000 on my Nightfall Ele.
What does it prove?
I can farm, that it!
What does it prove?
I can farm, that it!
Turtle222
I see this "real" level system as a suggestion with many cons outnumbering the pros.
Firstly, i see it as a way for one to boast his/her own ego.
Secondly, whatever is left of Anet's idea of Skill>time with be beaten down to a bloody pulp.
Those that are not interested in Titles (such as myself) tend to reroll characters, eg. changing features, gender, campaign etc for their profession, and this levelling system restricts them doing so as they feel it will be a great loss.
Fourth - As it has been suggested before - Titles already do that job. Yes it doesn't precisely tell you how experienced a player is. But seeing someone with Legendary skill hunter displayed makes me think that this -person would know what he/she is doing.
Definitely /notsigned
Too many flaws - terrible terrible idea
Firstly, i see it as a way for one to boast his/her own ego.
Secondly, whatever is left of Anet's idea of Skill>time with be beaten down to a bloody pulp.
Those that are not interested in Titles (such as myself) tend to reroll characters, eg. changing features, gender, campaign etc for their profession, and this levelling system restricts them doing so as they feel it will be a great loss.
Fourth - As it has been suggested before - Titles already do that job. Yes it doesn't precisely tell you how experienced a player is. But seeing someone with Legendary skill hunter displayed makes me think that this -person would know what he/she is doing.
Definitely /notsigned
Too many flaws - terrible terrible idea
Malice Black
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Originally Posted by Rhedd
Give titles. They could be like...
Kinda Bored Unemployed Utterly Lifeless Eternal Virgin etc. |
But, this is correct. Flame on! my flame suit is tough, level 5000, beat that nubs
Selket
pull down your pants and take a picture and send it to them in game ofc
Isn't that your real life level?
Isn't that your real life level?
Mace Gridlock
I found a spreadsheet that was done a while back that will let you know what level you would be. It was done at Gameamp.
Here is a link to the OP: http://guildwars.gameamp.com/forum/showTopic/56549.php
Here is the spreadsheet:http://www.geocities.com/excelcis_mo...evel_Am_I.html
Not sure how accurate it is.
Here is a link to the OP: http://guildwars.gameamp.com/forum/showTopic/56549.php
Here is the spreadsheet:http://www.geocities.com/excelcis_mo...evel_Am_I.html
Not sure how accurate it is.
TaCktiX
My main character would be virtual level 577 (8.5 million and counting), and you know what? I don't want to show it. I like showing my skill via play, not via a number. I'm not opposed to it being added AS AN OPTION, but it affects me neither way.
Malice Black
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Originally Posted by Selket
pull down your pants and take a picture and send it to them in game ofc
Isn't that your real life level? |
Selket
i c wut u did ther
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Turtle222
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Originally Posted by Selket
pull down your pants and take a picture and send it to them in game ofc
Isn't that your real life level? |
itsvictor
I really couldn't care less about a pve character's experience seeing how you can farm it, etc. Balthazar Faction on the other hand, it'd be nice to have a title for how much you accumulated, showing that you've atleast pvp'd some even if you don't have bambi or whatever(FYI I'm one of those people that pvp a lot but haven't bothered to touch HA). It obviously will create elitism but then again it's already present in the game. I'd still rather associate with friends than the dude that is lvl 10000.
Zahr Dalsk
Oh look at the solo farmers with millions upon millions of XP.
Would be totally worthless idea, whoever came up with that should have their brain confiscated.
Would be totally worthless idea, whoever came up with that should have their brain confiscated.
MithranArkanere
I don't mid much about this.
In GW as it currently is, there is an armor/damage difference between levels, so it may be not possible currently.
But it would not affect PvP.
Si I don't think it being bad.
But since it's so easy to ge exp, they should count in this way:
Level 20. Starts counting skill points.
+1 skill point, level 21.
+2 skill points, level 22
+3 skill points, level 23, and so on.
So from level 20 to 24, your would have to gather: 1+2+3+4=10 skill points.
Farmers would love this thing, XD
In GW as it currently is, there is an armor/damage difference between levels, so it may be not possible currently.
But it would not affect PvP.
Si I don't think it being bad.
But since it's so easy to ge exp, they should count in this way:
Level 20. Starts counting skill points.
+1 skill point, level 21.
+2 skill points, level 22
+3 skill points, level 23, and so on.
So from level 20 to 24, your would have to gather: 1+2+3+4=10 skill points.
Farmers would love this thing, XD
shoyon456
No, this is not gw2...which will be World of Grindfest PVE if done as anet has hinted at.
Furthermore, most ppl just solo places like uw, so are you to say that their soloing deserves lv 100+? Of course not, I myself do it.
/notsigned
Furthermore, most ppl just solo places like uw, so are you to say that their soloing deserves lv 100+? Of course not, I myself do it.
/notsigned
ensoriki
Yes we should it should be called
/Superrank
when you type it in it says something like
I am a Level 135 Elementalist of Golden Fire Slinging and am a +9 Legendary Cartographer
/Superrank
when you type it in it says something like
I am a Level 135 Elementalist of Golden Fire Slinging and am a +9 Legendary Cartographer
Silly Warrior
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Originally Posted by Shuuda
Regardless of whether there's a good reason to do so or not, noobs are still going to discrimate and use it to boost E-peen.
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Exactly. XP doesn't really show skill. You could get Legendary Vanquisher, and a person who just farms trolls all day would have more XP.
I personally hope this is never implemented, at least not for GW1.
mrmango
Isn't it fun to play PUGs to make fun of the majority and recruit the better ones for you PVE carebear guild?
angmar_nite
PVE carebear guild. Who was that aimed at...
Scary Raebbit
More people stroking their e-peen. We don't need to make a mess out of this.
arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
But would it be so bad is an option existed or some way existed to display our "realistic level" ingame (realistic level being my own term.. if you disagree with that term, please tell me)?
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But yeah, no. I mean, honestly it doesn't affect me either way, but there is just no reason behind this. Unless you really want to pinpoint the hardcore farmers and/or botters. Because those will be the ones with the highest numbers. Though I have no idea why you would want to know that.
aapo
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Originally Posted by Scary Raebbit
More people stroking their e-peen. We don't need to make a mess out of this.
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J snukka
didn't read what others wrote. so i may have repeated what most have said already.
That's what GW2 is all about.
That's what GW2 is all about.
Crom The Pale
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Originally Posted by aapo
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As for this topic, I kinda feel the KOBD title track shows some representation of a players lvl, though I've got 10million Exp I am only rank 2 "People Know Me".
Bryant Again
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Originally Posted by LuckyGiant
Since you asked, too keep people busy/interested in until GW2. They are not there specifically there encourage elitism like a level would - which is why the level is capped a 20 :P
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Originally Posted by Turtle222
Secondly, whatever is left of Anet's idea of Skill>time with be beaten down to a bloody pulp.
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Yawgmoth
PvE exp. can be gained fastest through solo farming huge numbers of high level mobs (HM raptors cave anyone?) Character experience is inherently flawed in GW, it wouldn't even make a good e-peen showoff.
Better add a way to show your Total Gained Balthazar Faction! A new title (no max) or something. This is much more meaningful than XP, it shows general overall PvP experience.
Better add a way to show your Total Gained Balthazar Faction! A new title (no max) or something. This is much more meaningful than XP, it shows general overall PvP experience.
aapo
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
How is rank elitism any different from level elitism? And rank elitism in this case would be worse since they actually strengthen your character.
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
It's pretty much already gone thanks to PvE skills.
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