If pugs are so bad, then how did you meet your guildies?

This is exactly how I've been approached to join a variety of guilds, and I have to say it's a very effective method. So, I'd say the best PuGs out there are a mix of a partial guild group and random players.

Haha QFT.

I met my guild during the first Canthan New Years (or Dragon Festival...or something...), the first time they introduced those games of chance where you stand on the circle and essentially lose money every 5 seconds. The person who is now my guild leader asked why I wasn't in a guild and I said that I had just left mine and so she invited me to join. I was a bit concerned that it might be a guild that just recruits anybody since I didn't play with them beforehand or anything, but it actually has turned out to be th e best guild I've been in. Been in it since 7/11/06, and the people are still awesome. So basically now I'm either in a guild group or H/Hing it. Occasionally I'll go for a pug group if I can't H/H well enough or not enough guild members are available. Personally I have not had too many problems with pugs. My only grip (even more so than leeroying warriors or assassins that think they're tanks) is people with just plain horrible builds. The worst thing about being a monk is when you're in a group that deals hardly any damage but takes a beating by any and every foe.

Anyway...I think I answered the question of this topic...

met good guilds off elite missions.....other than that off chest running thread

if u just started gw everyone plays with PUGs. at least i did when i was a noobie ^^

Not everyone, I purchased it because I could play with AI and thats how I started.

The guild i'm in now needed a pug ele for the deep and they picked me.

The guild before that needed a pug ele for DoA, and they picked me.

Before that i cant remember.

on forums, on IRC and in PvP

plenty of ways to find guilds without pugging till you kill yourself in pure misery

Worked on a site with one. Then the other guys my friend met while doing the last Proph mission when it was "the hardest mission in the game, " and all pugs failed at doing it. So, afterwords, they formed NATO, and I joined shortly after.

Have known my fellow guildies for half of my life.

PUGs in this game are dogshit.

* Met my first guild from knowing all of them from an online-journal website.
* Met my 2nd and 3rd guild from socialising in game. They were good people, we didn't care how each played as everyone was down to earth and (most of them) accepted advice on how not to suck from everyone else.

Am still with all three guilds.

Never pugged outside of ABs. Don't see the need to \o_O/

Most PUG members *are* terrible. The ones who aren't stand out, and you end up asking those people questions like "So, do you like your guild?" and "Is your guild recruiting?".

Although actually, I found my current guild through this website.

When the game first came out i played with my flatmate. We joined a random guild invite. We stayed with that guild for nearly a whole year :P until they split up and we reformed and then they all quit. But yeah i mainly meet new people through contacts now and with people from guru.

That's what I did too. But yes, as several people stated before, a lot of us were newbies to the game and sometimes wouldn't mind wiping to learn from our errors.

I doubt I'm the only one, but when you PUG something you imagine people being relatively of your experience level - 2 years of gameplay, done the mission/area several times, should know how it works by now. Maybe I assume too fast.

Example: the last time I did THK, to help a guildie who was in a group, I came on my monk and had 3 heroes in my team. Filled the group 7/8. I was then promptly kicked because I had heroes.

Leader: kick ur heroes, no heroes
Me: Erm okay... I was keeping 'em in case we'd want to go in right away...
Leader: no heroes *kicks me from the team*
Me, in guild chat: Eh, let's just take hero and a couple henchies. *guildie leaves current group, joins me*
Me, in local: Betcha I clear this faster than you guys :P

I came back in THK after beating the mission, some of them were still looking for a group. I let out a "lol" in local, stayed a minute for any reply from the team leader who had kicked me earlier, and left for my GH after.

EDIT, to stay on topic: Some of my best guildies, I've met via Guru guild advertisement threads. Anyone else having good luck with it?

Men only Bathhouses in the slums of San Francisco of course.

It was still safer than a PUG.

I met both leaders of the guilds I eventually joined through posts here on the forums. I then met a few other guilds through PUGs wherein I received invites, although I didnt wish to leave my current guilds. A few more through random play in game.

FYI PUGs arent so bad, at least, they didnt use to be in the past (say pre-Nightfall). I had an awful lot of fun in PUG play, and almost always had success with them. They're much worse as of late, and even I agree I wouldnt use them now.

I invited them to get the game and then into the guild. So RL friends.

My first guild was one with some RL friends. Only problem was that two of them moved to the US and different timezone kills activity.

I got into my current guild being pick-up.
I used to 'live' in ToPK with my orders necro back then and got to know a lot of people. It was one of those areas where you could see who was playing for fun and who was playing for cash. I had already teamed up with some of them several times before I got invited.

I also think you have to make a difference between a true PUG and a organised team (guild/alliance/friends) that takes one or two 'pick-up' members.
The true PUG may suck, but the organised team may work even if one or two members are not that great. As long as they listen and follow orders you should be fine.

At the moment, most new members we get are either friends or those 'pick-ups' when we fill an experienced team.
And some from the recruiting our alliance leader does (they recruit for the entire alliance).

We used to recruit on guru and gwo, but that is a while ago.
Some of our best members and officers came from them.
However, while getting very experienced players from guru is fun, I have to say that inviting a pick-up member that is not so experienced and seeing him grow in a couple of weeks is even more rewarding.

*dies of laughter*

OMG...awesome

I met all my guildies through PUGging, except my current guild, because my current guild is just me and I'm not going to invite anyone else (so neener neener).

PUGs are only "always" bad when the player who has the poor attitude toward them refuses to assert him or herself and take a competent leadership position where no other leadership exists. Remember: when somebody is complaining about PUGs, chances are they're 1/8 of the problem.

WIN!

Met through a pug. been playing with most of them for 2 years now