Want to get a team together in random arena???
its only 3 gladiator points after 10 wins but i can see people farming it as they'll face teams that are unprepared and unorganized as they are (Which means advantage for the prepared team obviously)
Its extremely easy to do as i've tested with my friend
3 out of 3 times my friend and I have been able to synch in the Asian district of random arena and get on the same team (We chose Asian becasue it has less people usually and we stand beside each other ...i don't know the outcome of who's selected )
Now i'm wondering how many other people out there are doing it...well we saw 2 to 3 other people in LOCAL CHAT spamming their countdown and enter mission synching which was like wow what a coincidence same time we're testing it out
Thoughts?
And picture: http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/3589/gw101mb5.jpg
Synching in Random Arena = EASY ....cheap and unfair gameplay???
Solange
yesitsrob
I'm pretty sure some koreans have got r9/10 gladiator doing it in their districts during really dead hours.
But to be honest does it matter? Unless you're playing RA to title farm it shouldn't affect you, and Gladiator thing is a pretty bad title anyway.
Synching is just something to do if you and another friend are bored I guess. I do it occasionally.
But to be honest does it matter? Unless you're playing RA to title farm it shouldn't affect you, and Gladiator thing is a pretty bad title anyway.
Synching is just something to do if you and another friend are bored I guess. I do it occasionally.
Solange
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I'm pretty sure some koreans have got r9/10 gladiator doing it in their districts during really dead hours.
But to be honest does it matter? Unless you're playing RA to title farm it shouldn't affect you, and Gladiator thing is a pretty bad title anyway. Synching is just something to do if you and another friend are bored I guess. I do it occasionally. |
KEep in mind that NEW players or people with new guild wars account have to get by Random Arena with 5 wins in a row before moving to Team Arena
does this add to the frustration?
Aera Lure
Synching is cheating the system, since its supposed to be RA, and therefore should be bannable, imho.
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I'm pretty sure some koreans have got r9/10 gladiator doing it in their districts during really dead hours.
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But to be honest does it matter? Unless you're playing RA to title farm it shouldn't affect you, and Gladiator thing is a pretty bad title anyway.
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Synching is just something to do if you and another friend are bored I guess. I do it occasionally.
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RA is supposed to be random.
So yeah I would love to see it stopped somehow, even just a limit on people in the same guild/alliance would have a big impact on it. Yeah you can work round it but I really cant see a better way to do it.
Shakti
Syncing has been going on for a very long time, and yes I feel syncing in RANDOM arenas is cheating. Will it get fixed? Hasn't yet.
Coloneh
it should reportable, but Anet shouldt really waste time on it. its dosnt matter, its just RA.
yesitsrob
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And it would be hard to report because it can actually happen by coinsidence.
moko
LF people to Sync in RA with, IGN over there!
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Solange
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I'm pretty sure TA requires 3 other people as opposed to 1 other person. People who are new to the game are going to be pretty bad if they face synched teams or not, loss is a loss.
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the learning curve increases significantly for that new player which might not even bother trying and leave?
Isileth
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I'm pretty sure TA requires 3 other people as opposed to 1 other person.
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Just because TA requires 4 players doesnt mean if you only have 2 or 3 its ok to synch into RA.
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People who are new to the game are going to be pretty bad if they face synched teams or not, loss is a loss.
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2) In RA its random teams. So a new player could be in with 3 other new players or 3 good players.
Even a team of 4 great random players is at a disadvantage to a synched team. You can take builds that complement each other or ensure that vital roles are filled with decent players etc.
slowerpoke
not much can be done when anet refuse to acknowledge there is a problem
their response has been "its random, deal"
their response has been "its random, deal"
Zahr Dalsk
Who cares if there's unfairness in RA; it's RA, it doesn't matter for anything beyond build testing.
makosi
I made a thread about this a while back and Andrew Patrick posted saying that he'd relay it to the community board (or a similar establishment - I forgot). He said that it would be dealt with if it was considered a great enough problem and it hasn't been dealt with yet so I'll assume it's not being taken seriously.
Regardless of people's opinion of RA (which is often a very low opinion) synchronized joining is cheating and it's extremely disheartening to reach 4 or 9 consecutive wins to be rolled by an organized team.
Is it, therefore, acceptable to exploit this mechanism and cheat your way to max titles and easy faction?
Regardless of people's opinion of RA (which is often a very low opinion) synchronized joining is cheating and it's extremely disheartening to reach 4 or 9 consecutive wins to be rolled by an organized team.
Is it, therefore, acceptable to exploit this mechanism and cheat your way to max titles and easy faction?
Tab
Syncing RA isn't that great a way to get glads. You're much better off just TAing with your organised team if you don't suck.
Shogunshen
Or you could learn to TA.
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It's cheating, it should be bannable, but how you're going to catch and prove syncing, I don't know. I also, personally, haven't really seen it more than once, so I can't say as I've noticed that it's very pervasive.
It's just another one of those exploits where pathetic little people with pitiable lives can annoy the rest of us to make themselves feel less powerless for a litte bit, I suppose.
Solas
man some people here are just selfish as hell,
Some people Actually enjoy RA. and then some of ye say its not real pvp.... or its only RA....get over yourselves, can you say at one time you were never into Ra even fow a few days?
Some people Actually enjoy RA. and then some of ye say its not real pvp.... or its only RA....get over yourselves, can you say at one time you were never into Ra even fow a few days?
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its just RA.
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makosi
Even if synch-joining isn't that great at glad point farming, it's still a grievance for the random team who have their successful, consecutive run spoiled by a well-synergized rit-spike team using Vent.
It cannot be justified nor excused.
It cannot be justified nor excused.
RhanoctJocosa
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Syncing RA isn't that great a way to get glads. You're much better off just TAing with your organised team if you don't suck.
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I think it's more griefing, typically, than glad farming. We came up against a Ranger spike team in RA once who took gret joy in taunting our Random group for losing. It was pretty stupid.
It's cheating, it should be bannable, but how you're going to catch and prove syncing, I don't know. I also, personally, haven't really seen it more than once, so I can't say as I've noticed that it's very pervasive. It's just another one of those exploits where pathetic little people with pitiable lives can annoy the rest of us to make themselves feel less powerless for a litte bit, I suppose. |
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I made a thread about this a while back and Andrew Patrick posted saying that he'd relay it to the community board (or a similar establishment - I forgot). He said that it would be dealt with if it was considered a great enough problem and it hasn't been dealt with yet so I'll assume it's not being taken seriously.
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Originally Posted by Isileth
Yeah the guy with the most did it through synching.
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Everyone is seriously overexaggerating the problem. The majority of sync teams are R/Mo + Mo/W, and unless they have two other competent players what's stopping your team from beating them? The odd full team sync is annoying, but they definitely aren't invincible. I can't remember the last time I've lost to a full team sync in RA, besides one vs. WM in early 07, which was probably one of the best RA matches of my life.
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Originally Posted by yesitsrob
But to be honest does it matter? Unless you're playing RA to title farm it shouldn't affect you, and Gladiator thing is a pretty bad title anyway.
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Even if synch-joining isn't that great at glad point farming, it's still a grievance for the random team who have their successful, consecutive run spoiled by a well-synergized rit-spike team using Vent.
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Ctb
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Also, stop cheating in RA.
makosi
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Or that it really isn't a great enough problem?
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What isn't subjective is that it is cheating however great or small it may be and the creation of this thread suggests that it is causing grief to those who play normally. Isn't that cause for concern?
I can say that I have beat sync teams and got my glad points too, but that's not the point and is irrelivent to the topic. Everyone knows they aren't invincible but they are at an undeniable advantage.
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1) WM disagree.
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Sub Frost
Synching in RA = Pathetic
Nothing more to add.
Nothing more to add.
RhanoctJocosa
Ok, I'll continue cheating in RA, and will continue to gain gladiator points, roll bad teams and have fun while doing it. You can continue crying on guru about a "problem" that's been around since the beginning of RA, and let everyone know how bad you are.
True, but TA is in a terrible state atm which means many people sync RA to enjoy the 4v4 format.
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WM played when it was 10 for a glad point, no matter how many consec you have. With the new system you may aswell TA.
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Isileth
I have to ask RhanoctJocosa, why is your time more important than others?
Why do you think its ok to cheat in RA so you have can have fun while ruining it for others?
Why do you think its ok to cheat in RA so you have can have fun while ruining it for others?
eloogosciu
I must say Random Arena isnt really random and that topic proves it totally. Im pissed with fact whenever I play any offensive build the opposite team has usually one monk or 2 or more, and when I'm playing monk or support class I have at least another one in mine team. It's just stupid, they should change the Random Arena sys, and avoid that synchro thing, it just kills the idea of RA.
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I've gotten about 1700 of my glad points from RA, and I have never, ever, seen a 4 team rt spike. Besides, a strong RA team would easily roll rt spike- your team obviously lacked disruption and enough damage to wipe their 3-4 spirit lights and one or so weapon of wardings.
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makosi
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I've gotten about 1700 of my glad points from RA, and I have never, ever, seen a 4 team rt spike. Besides, a strong RA team would easily roll rt spike- your team obviously lacked disruption and enough damage to wipe their 3-4 spirit lights and one or so weapon of wardings.
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On other occasions I have seen 2 Asscasters, 1 support rit and a ZB monk, with the same tag, which is difficult to break considering 2/4 of your team are on the floor taking +100dmg from Toxic Shock and spammed with Augury of Deep Wound. That sort play is not fair for a random team to have to face.
You can't expect a random team to have sufficient disruption and mitigation to deal with synchs.
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I have to ask RhanoctJocosa, why is your time more important than others?
Why do you think its ok to cheat in RA so you have can have fun while ruining it for others? |
People sync, people have fun, people get glad points. Cry about it all you want, nothing's going to change.
I don't know what the point of this thread was, but if the OP is trying to make a LFSync list then add me to it if you want, I play a lot less in RA nowadays but if I'm free I'll come.
Nemo the Capitalist
its called using ur head...
Cheap way to get it
But dont ppl think surivor via HFF is cheap as well to purists
same thing but pve rather than pvp
* food for thought*
Cheap way to get it
But dont ppl think surivor via HFF is cheap as well to purists
same thing but pve rather than pvp
* food for thought*
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
It's just Guild Wars.
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zwei2stein
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Ok, I'll continue cheating in RA, and will continue to gain gladiator points, roll bad teams and have fun while doing it. You can continue crying on guru about a "problem" that's been around since the beginning of RA, and let everyone know how bad you are.
True, but TA is in a terrible state atm which means many people sync RA to enjoy the 4v4 format. |
If enjoying 4vs4 format means rolling nubs instead of facing competition on level, again, PvE is opening its welcoming arms. you for sure would be better fit for that gameplay.
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Does the EULA forbid syncing in RA? No. So it's not cheating.
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Besides the EULA does mention using exploits, synching is exploiting the system to get a non random team into RA.
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Also, I don't know what district you play in, but in ID is full of good players, and just because you sync doesn't mean you'll automatically get 10 wins.
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People sync, people have fun, people get glad points. Cry about it all you want, nothing's going to change.
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Why do you feel that is ok?
Your having fun so its fine right? Screw the other people who are playing the game.
Solange
the point of the thread was to get attention to it, get peoples thoughts about whats going on in this area of the game
Why call it random arena if its not random?
Why make new players have to get 5 wins in a row to unlock team arenas and other parts of the PVP island if they have to deal with unfair play like this to try to move on and get better? - New guild wars players might move on but not in the sense of bettering their guild wars pvp skills...maybe to world of warcraft - what happens to guild wars if no new blood refreshes the pvp community?
And its funny how you even call it cheating yet go along and justify it to say its not against the EULA and are proud of what you are doing, seeing you come on here and brag about what you're doing it makes me feel why bother going into this area...
Random Arena is the ONLY pvp area in the game where you get into a game this fast without having to setup a team...but you obviously do setup teams so...whatever
Games rely on fair play or there is no game at all
Why call it random arena if its not random?
Why make new players have to get 5 wins in a row to unlock team arenas and other parts of the PVP island if they have to deal with unfair play like this to try to move on and get better? - New guild wars players might move on but not in the sense of bettering their guild wars pvp skills...maybe to world of warcraft - what happens to guild wars if no new blood refreshes the pvp community?
And its funny how you even call it cheating yet go along and justify it to say its not against the EULA and are proud of what you are doing, seeing you come on here and brag about what you're doing it makes me feel why bother going into this area...
Random Arena is the ONLY pvp area in the game where you get into a game this fast without having to setup a team...but you obviously do setup teams so...whatever
Games rely on fair play or there is no game at all
RhanoctJocosa
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Well you said yourself it was cheating.
Besides the EULA does mention using exploits, synching is exploiting the system to get a non random team into RA. Having a 10 second headstart in a race doesnt mean you will always win either, but its a damn good advantage. At the expense of the players on the other team. Why do you feel that is ok? Your having fun so its fine right? Screw the other people who are playing the game. |
yesitsrob
I think actually the state of TA is one of the reasons why people might synch a lot. TA is just a cess pool of faggotry really. With the game not being balanced for 4v4 some TA gimmicks are quite strong, or at least more-so than HA/GVG gimmicks are. It's less obvious in a way because well, a lot of the people that run said gimmicks are really bad. Even if you don't lose to gimmicks much, I personally don't with a friends list groups, (they do tend to kill RA group streaks though) they are just immensely unfun to face and there is no shortage of them.
TA is just organized RA, but you can organise it to an extent that you can run some really really dull shit and a lot of people do that - Personally I don't like facing some shit guilds running 3 paragons and a monk or 4 ritualists or some boring shove monk spike.
So yes, as long as TA is completely crap. Then syching RA sounds kinda fun for some grab and go pvp with a friend.
TA is just organized RA, but you can organise it to an extent that you can run some really really dull shit and a lot of people do that - Personally I don't like facing some shit guilds running 3 paragons and a monk or 4 ritualists or some boring shove monk spike.
So yes, as long as TA is completely crap. Then syching RA sounds kinda fun for some grab and go pvp with a friend.
Solange
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This whole post is just a whine, but I'd like to know where I said it was cheating.
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I pwnd U
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you edit your post so i can't
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It's RA, yes it's suppose to be random but there have been many times when I have been RA'ing along with a couple of other guildies. And yes I have randomly got another 1 or 2 guildmates on my team because it was a slow hour. We weren't syncing, just playing RA for fun. It happens sometimes. Yes syncing is a way to kinda get around the system and have a better chance to win but it's nothing new. I have seen plenty of RA teams that have got a great spread of professions and none of them had the same tag. It happens. I have been on a random team that beat a sync team. Just because you sync doesn't mean you get an auto-10 win streak.