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Useful? Still Crappy? Discuss.
I suppose it does allow us to hack away at monks etc
The New Avatar of Grenth
Turtle222
Avatar of Grenth: duration increased to 10..90 seconds; functionality changed to: "For 10..90 seconds, you cannot be blocked by enchanted foes, and your attacks deal cold damage. This skill is disabled for 120 seconds."
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Useful? Still Crappy? Discuss.
I suppose it does allow us to hack away at monks etc
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Useful? Still Crappy? Discuss.
I suppose it does allow us to hack away at monks etc
Alex the Great
It's worse than b4 imo.
pretty much does nothing, beacuse since you can use guiding hands for spikes, and not everyone is enchanted.
dervs dont need to always be able to hit, just for spikes, so the only way this would work is for some crappy pressure
pretty much does nothing, beacuse since you can use guiding hands for spikes, and not everyone is enchanted.
dervs dont need to always be able to hit, just for spikes, so the only way this would work is for some crappy pressure
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[Morkai]
Yeah it's a bs nerf..mystic regen nerf has annoyed me also.
street peddler
Well at least now it has potential...before it had no chance.
Lishy
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Originally Posted by street peddler
Well at least now it has potential...before it had no chance.
Last I checked, cripple was good in ab.
N1ghtstalker
so instead of the old enchant removing attacks of grenth now we just get no block from enchanted foes right....
lets just make it a normal form then since it has no use left anymore
lets just make it a normal form then since it has no use left anymore
street peddler
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Originally Posted by Kain Fz
Last I checked, cripple was good in ab.
???
before it removed 1 enchant with each attack skill, and lasted 30 seconds
before it removed 1 enchant with each attack skill, and lasted 30 seconds
Coloneh
this is useless.
~ Dan ~
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Originally Posted by street peddler
???
before it removed 1 enchant with each attack skill, and lasted 30 seconds He must be thinking of [skill]Grenth's Grasp[/skill]
IMO, it needed a 3rd effect like the other avatars, as cannot be blocked isn't so big a deal.
before it removed 1 enchant with each attack skill, and lasted 30 seconds He must be thinking of [skill]Grenth's Grasp[/skill]
IMO, it needed a 3rd effect like the other avatars, as cannot be blocked isn't so big a deal.
Darkside
I'm not really sure what anet was hoping to accomplish with this ... it's even more useless now then it was yesterday.
Not really that impressed with the nerf to mystic regen either. Time for some [skill]mending[/skill] lol
Not really that impressed with the nerf to mystic regen either. Time for some [skill]mending[/skill] lol
Bassu
I was pretty excited when I came back home, started GW and saw that an updae has been made - I thought - Grenth maybe? And then I looked here, saw the thread's topic and started going like 'zomg yeah anet gjgjgj at last good direction changes'. But then I saw the new functionality.
Epic fail. 'by enchanted' needs to be removed.
Epic fail. 'by enchanted' needs to be removed.
Arkantos
It's actually not that bad now. Capable of attacking through protted targets? Yes please. It makes anti-blocking worthless on a target, which is very strong. The only problem is, melandru is still better.
hurric
it might see some action in RA.
*monk spams gaurdian
*derv laughs and hacks away
that's probably as far as it gets used.
*monk spams gaurdian
*derv laughs and hacks away
that's probably as far as it gets used.
KalleDamos
Meh, I'm still going to cap it and use it. Why, because I can. And I shall enjoy every second of it. Also good for taking out R/E Conjure Rangers.
Darkside
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
It's actually not that bad now. Capable of attacking through protted targets? Yes please. It makes anti-blocking worthless on a target, which is very strong. The only problem is, melandru is still better.
So it goes through prot blocking big deal... the more annoying blocking comes from stances.
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Darkside
So it goes through prot blocking big deal... the more annoying blocking comes from stances.
Once your target is enchanted, you're unblockable. It's not all that great in PvE, but for PvP yes, it is quite a big deal.
Bassu
Oh wait.
Reaction of Critical Defence Sins - priceless.
Reaction of Critical Defence Sins - priceless.
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Darkside
So it goes through prot blocking big deal... the more annoying blocking comes from stances.
Because Aegis chains aren't right bastards m i rite?
Last time I checked, Wild Blow was tantamount to a Dervish skill, too.
I like the new Grenth. I just need a reason to stop being a godmode tree, now.
Last time I checked, Wild Blow was tantamount to a Dervish skill, too.
I like the new Grenth. I just need a reason to stop being a godmode tree, now.
Coloneh
Its not on Par with Melandru for PvP and its still useless in PvE. I think they should add a vampiric effect, steal a certain amount of health on hit. that would fit with grenth.
KalleDamos
But then it would be over powered again cause people would just run a lot of 'unblockable' attacks like wild blow and what not, stealing massive amounts of health. Sure a vamp thing would be nifty, but maybe just make it like if target foe is enchanted, your attacks are unblockable and every time you hit you cause bleeding, or some kind of low level condition, or gain 10 health or something. A vamperic attack that requires either auto attack or skill use with no health degen is made of too much win.
horseradish
Nothing can really compete with the Tree
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, but I do like Coloneh's suggestion.
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, but I do like Coloneh's suggestion.
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by KalleDamos
But then it would be over powered again cause people would just run a lot of 'unblockable' attacks like wild blow and what not, stealing massive amounts of health. Sure a vamp thing would be nifty, but maybe just make it like if target foe is enchanted, your attacks are unblockable and every time you hit you cause bleeding, or some kind of low level condition, or gain 10 health or something. A vamperic attack that requires either auto attack or skill use with no health degen is made of too much win.
not replacing the unblockable part, but along with it. the skill needs a third effect. and not some massive health steal, im talking like 5-20. puts more hate on prot, which i think, is the basis of the skill.
KalleDamos
True, but if you put something like that all the prot monks will bitch and cry and it will be nerfed..again...why do you think the mesmer got hit so hard? PvP monks crying about their energy...in my opinion at least.
Coloneh
prot is overpowered and the counters keep getting nerfed for being overpowered, need to find a happy medium.
shoyon456
oh this whole **cking update was bs for the derv, i dont use the assult skill or w/e its called, but everything i saw seemed to get a negative effect. What they NEEDED to do was keep grenth as it was, give it some useless nerfable 3rd effect, and simply MOVE MYSTIC REGEN to mysticism w/o touching it. So much bs, makes me sad to call my derv my main, WTF anet?
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by shoyon456
oh this whole **cking update was bs for the derv, i dont use the assult skill or w/e its called, but everything i saw seemed to get a negative effect. What they NEEDED to do was keep grenth as it was, give it some useless nerfable 3rd effect, and simply MOVE MYSTIC REGEN to mysticism w/o touching it. So much bs, makes me sad to call my derv my main, WTF anet?
Overall, the change to the regeneration is better then moving it to mysticism. It's still a strong skill, and it's still a viable self heal on other professions. The change isn't worth whining over really, other professions get much worse nerfs then this.
Dr Strangelove
The mystic regen nerf shouldn't matter at all unless you're terrible at guild wars. 3 enchantments is really the most you should care to have.
A .25 second skill use increase shouldn't even be noticeable.
A .25 second skill use increase shouldn't even be noticeable.
street peddler
its about damn time they nerfed mystic regen...oh noes now i cant have +10 regen while i have bleeding, poison, disease, and burning on me!!1
blue.rellik
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Originally Posted by Darkside
So it goes through prot blocking big deal... the more annoying blocking comes from stances.
Like what? Glad's Stance? No? Oh wait, what about Whirling Defence? Still not right? Maybe you're talking about Frenzied Defence?
Seriously, stop talking about PvP based on your experiences in RA
Seriously, stop talking about PvP based on your experiences in RA
Sir Pandra Pierva
Sorry still
Pre nerf to hell Grenth=Owned in the face, it really hurt back then
Post first nerf= Useless
New "buff"= Nice try and its fun for hacking away but still subpar
but atleast its back above AoB again
Pre nerf to hell Grenth=Owned in the face, it really hurt back then
Post first nerf= Useless
New "buff"= Nice try and its fun for hacking away but still subpar
but atleast its back above AoB again
Bobby2
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Because Aegis chains aren't right bastards m i rite?
Last time I checked, Wild Blow was tantamount to a Dervish skill, too. With you and Arkantos on this one.
But Wild Blow is a Sin skill
Last time I checked, Wild Blow was tantamount to a Dervish skill, too. With you and Arkantos on this one.
But Wild Blow is a Sin skill
misguiding_prophet
there goes my monk farm build- flushed down the toilet. I hate anet for doing this
Pvp4lyfe
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Originally Posted by Bassu
Oh wait.
Reaction of Critical Defence Sins - priceless. crit def scythe <---- me
*looks at updates, sees AoG update, doesnt care. goes on sin to RA, 1st battle, AoG appears, screams like little girl and runs away.*
dam straight >=[
Reaction of Critical Defence Sins - priceless. crit def scythe <---- me
*looks at updates, sees AoG update, doesnt care. goes on sin to RA, 1st battle, AoG appears, screams like little girl and runs away.*
dam straight >=[
Pvp4lyfe
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Originally Posted by Pvp4lyfe
crit def scythe <---- me
*looks at updates, sees AoG update, doesnt care. goes on sin to RA, 1st battle, AoG appears, screams like little girl and runs away.*
dam straight >=[
*gets angry, goes on ranger, goes to RA with interupting build (magebane), sees the SAME AoG derv, interrupts his AoG. pwn him and makes him scream like little girl*
all done on the day the update was issued. >=]
*looks at updates, sees AoG update, doesnt care. goes on sin to RA, 1st battle, AoG appears, screams like little girl and runs away.*
dam straight >=[
*gets angry, goes on ranger, goes to RA with interupting build (magebane), sees the SAME AoG derv, interrupts his AoG. pwn him and makes him scream like little girl*
all done on the day the update was issued. >=]
Sirius-NZ
People that activate avatars within range of the enemy are asking for that. Energy management isn't the only reason I pre-cast Melandru.
RhanoctJocosa
Avatar of Balth is so much better with PA
infymys
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Originally Posted by Bobby2
But Wild Blow is a Sin skill
Warrior skill. You're thinking Wild Strike.
Warrior skill. You're thinking Wild Strike.
Marty Silverblade
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Originally Posted by infymys
Warrior skill. You're thinking Wild Strike.
He doesn't literally mean a Warrior skill, it's just that Wild Blow is nice on sins for removing stances and the crit hit.
Kale Ironfist
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Originally Posted by infymys
Warrior skill. You're thinking Wild Strike.
I believe you missed out on what the post you were quoting was quoting.
Mr Pink57
I've been playing around with it in RA a little bit and yea its great that it goes thru and all but it does not have another effect like Lyssa (+20e +xx dmg) or Melandru (+100hp immune). And I think the reason for that is it would be too strong if it say went thru the enchant and removed it, I would say give it more energy like Lyssa or +1 boost to your attributes.
Also it doesnt spike worth a damn either, sure you can run thru enchants but big deal I cannot constant 100+ dmg like Lyssa.
pink
Also it doesnt spike worth a damn either, sure you can run thru enchants but big deal I cannot constant 100+ dmg like Lyssa.
pink