That wouldn't hurt.
Say, hmm, "your attack skills steal life". Hopefully that wouldn't be excessively overpowered, since it's not all that different from Dwayna's effect...
The New Avatar of Grenth
Sirius-NZ
Adam of Tyria
I enjoy the new Grenth. Probably because when people block me it just annoys the crap out of me.
Sir Pandra Pierva
after running with him a few times in RA and laughing at gaurdain monks it will say this. It is nice to be able to wail on a monk even after he has super protted himself
but still it can't beat the old enchant ripping one
but still it can't beat the old enchant ripping one
Coloneh
another idea: restore grenth to its original function but add in "every time you remove an enchantment in this way you lose 10...3 energy"
Kwisatz_Haderach
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
another idea: restore grenth to its original function but add in "every time you remove an enchantment in this way you lose 10...3 energy"
and if you reach 0 energy avatar of grenth ends.
that part should be self explanatory
that part should be self explanatory
ensoriki
It's okay...
but if it made your attacks give 10 life steal too....
but if it made your attacks give 10 life steal too....
~ Dan ~
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Originally Posted by Kwisatz_Haderach
and if you reach 0 energy avatar of grenth ends.
that part should be self explanatory No need. If you reach 0 energy, how the hell are you going to use an attack skill to remove another enchantment?
that part should be self explanatory No need. If you reach 0 energy, how the hell are you going to use an attack skill to remove another enchantment?
ensoriki
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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
No need. If you reach 0 energy, how the hell are you going to use an attack skill to remove another enchantment?
Have a BIP supply you?
Also it makes it so you have to think about your energy. Otherwise you lose Grenth
Also it makes it so you have to think about your energy. Otherwise you lose Grenth
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
No need. If you reach 0 energy, how the hell are you going to use an attack skill to remove another enchantment?
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Axel Zinfandel
It may have been useless before, but at least the skill context made sense with the name. They should better call it "Avatar of Something that can hit things"
Sir Pandra Pierva
before it was not useless even at the short duration it wasn't effective in the least but now it is worthless
street peddler
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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
before it was not useless even at the short duration it wasn't effective in the least but now it is worthless
hahahahaahhah no
Sir Pandra Pierva
way before the time nerf it was.........horrible in a good way
with the short duration in low end pvp it was meh it worked but wasn't useless like Aob
Post nerf I dont care for it at all.
with the short duration in low end pvp it was meh it worked but wasn't useless like Aob
Post nerf I dont care for it at all.
Dr Strangelove
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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
way before the time nerf it was the most stupidly overpowered thing ever to show up in PvP
Fixed for accuracy
Sir Pandra Pierva
thats what I was trying to say but I am tired atm.
nothing like
D/W
Ava of grenth
wildblow
guiding hands
ermites
mystic
gg prot
nothing like
D/W
Ava of grenth
wildblow
guiding hands
ermites
mystic
gg prot
Turtle222
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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
thats what I was trying to say but I am tired atm.
nothing like
D/W
Ava of grenth
wildblow
guiding hands
ermites
mystic
gg prot why would you need guiding hands now?
nothing like
D/W
Ava of grenth
wildblow
guiding hands
ermites
mystic
gg prot why would you need guiding hands now?
Coloneh
noooo.
D/Rt
grenth
guiding hands
extend
sight beyond sight
mystic
eremites
D/Rt
grenth
guiding hands
extend
sight beyond sight
mystic
eremites
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
before it was not useless even at the short duration it wasn't effective in the least but now it is worthless
When it had its original duration, is was very overpowered. When the duration got nerfed, it was next to useless. With the current change, it's not close to as great as it was originally, but it's now playable.
LightningHell
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
noooo.
D/Rt
grenth
guiding hands
extend
sight beyond sight
mystic
eremites (Assuming you're talking about old Grenth) No Wild Blow? Abusing high Scythe crit plus enchant strip due to unblockability is win.
D/Rt
grenth
guiding hands
extend
sight beyond sight
mystic
eremites (Assuming you're talking about old Grenth) No Wild Blow? Abusing high Scythe crit plus enchant strip due to unblockability is win.
Sir Pandra Pierva
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
When it had its original duration, is was very overpowered. When the duration got nerfed, it was next to useless. With the current change, it's not close to as great as it was originally, but it's now playable.
there really is no way to make it close to its old god mode power without making it IMBA again
~ Dan ~
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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
there really is no way to make it close to its old god mode power without making it IMBA again
We know that. That's why anet changed its functionality.
Crippie its Tom
this might kill a monk with gaurdian on... otherwise most people who are block heavy dont have too many spells.
~ Dan ~
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Originally Posted by Crippie its Tom
this might kill a monk with gaurdian on... otherwise most people who are block heavy dont have too many spells.
Monks sometimes prot other players.
Lishy
All that happens is you cannot be blocked?How will that stop mystic regeneration or Critical Defence?
I think they should overall change it to something that represents Grenth.Perhaps Life-Stealing or benefits from things dieing?
I think they should overall change it to something that represents Grenth.Perhaps Life-Stealing or benefits from things dieing?
English Warrior
I think Avatar of Grenth maybe could work into Pvp it would be good for spikes with Pious assault aligned with other heavy attack skills, wild blow included so you can be blocked. But yea this is far better than 30 seconds(something like that) knocking enchants off them because hey if a monk used guardian then stacked 3 more enchants on top of it id rather go with this new one to hit him straight away. I can see why Anet changed it too because it was a waste of a skill never mind a elite because no1 was using it.
Bassu
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Originally Posted by Kain Fz
All that happens is you cannot be blocked?How will that stop mystic regeneration or Critical Defence?
I think they should overall change it to something that represents Grenth.Perhaps Life-Stealing or benefits from things dieing? Ummm maybe because Critical Defenses is an enchantment itself?
And MR is used (beside Dervs) mainly by low AL casters and it won't give them much benefit against hard-spiking Grenth.
I think they should overall change it to something that represents Grenth.Perhaps Life-Stealing or benefits from things dieing? Ummm maybe because Critical Defenses is an enchantment itself?
And MR is used (beside Dervs) mainly by low AL casters and it won't give them much benefit against hard-spiking Grenth.
blue.rellik
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Originally Posted by Kain Fz
All that happens is you cannot be blocked?How will that stop mystic regeneration or Critical Defence?
I think they should overall change it to something that represents Grenth.Perhaps Life-Stealing or benefits from things dieing? A dervish's auto-attack is already pumping out greater DPS than what Mystic Regen can hope to cover. Throw a IAS and some attack skills then the AoG will be killing
I think they should overall change it to something that represents Grenth.Perhaps Life-Stealing or benefits from things dieing? A dervish's auto-attack is already pumping out greater DPS than what Mystic Regen can hope to cover. Throw a IAS and some attack skills then the AoG will be killing
LightningHell
Remember that blocking is a powerful mechanic, and in PvP is extremely prevalent. Aside from severely diminishing your raw pressure, it makes you much less of a threat, forces you to change targets when training, and spiking is pretty much out of the question unless you're really, really, really desperate for a kill (which you probably shouldn't be).
Besides, there's something more wrong than your elite choice if you choose to train a target with Mystic Regen on.
Besides, there's something more wrong than your elite choice if you choose to train a target with Mystic Regen on.