Warning: Some of this thread will be a rant.
I'm getting rather annoyed of joining a guild that has that one officer who just abuses their power of being one. Whether it being a complete jerk, acting like he/she is the greatest thing in the entire GW universe, or just spamming for no reason. Over the length of time of six months, I've been in over 15 guilds that has had one of these type of officers. The guild leader ignores it all the time, and the officer just enjoys kicking out people who try to tell him/her to shut up.
As of right now, I'm choosing to be not in a guild. (Getting kicked out once again not too long)
So let me ask you all:
Have you been in the same situation I've been in where one of the officers just really doesn't deserve to be one? If so, does the guild leader even listen if you try to explain the situation?
Also, thank you for reading my thread.
That Evil Officer
StormDragonZ
stretchs
My first suggestion is, stop hopping guilds. Secondly, it's quite possible you should do some background searching on the guilds you do join. And Ignore is always a handy option
dasullybear
Yup.
Leader kicked him becuz I are teh r10 epic.
Leader kicked him becuz I are teh r10 epic.
quickmonty
Last time I ran across an officer like that I kicked him out of my guild. 
tmr819
The OP reminds me of something I read once: "the one thing that all of your failed relationships have in common is you."
Trying to tell a guild officer to shut up -- in over 15 different guilds over a period of 6 months now, if I'm reading the post correctly -- is really not the best way to "win friends and influence people."
I have been in just two guilds in the 18 months I've played GW (the first guild just sort of died due to inactive players
), but I have never been kicked out of one. Then again, I never told any of the officers to shut up either. 
Trying to tell a guild officer to shut up -- in over 15 different guilds over a period of 6 months now, if I'm reading the post correctly -- is really not the best way to "win friends and influence people."
I have been in just two guilds in the 18 months I've played GW (the first guild just sort of died due to inactive players
), but I have never been kicked out of one. Then again, I never told any of the officers to shut up either.
cosyfiep
make your own guild then you are the officer and can do as you please.
Cherng Butter
This could realistically be your side of it...but if you have problems talk to the guild leader.
Alexandra-Sweet
Why don't you start a guild yourself? Problem solved.
credit
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by stretchs
My first suggestion is, stop hopping guilds. Secondly, it's quite possible you should do some background searching on the guilds you do join. And Ignore is always a handy option
|
credit
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet
Why don't you start a guild yourself? Problem solved.
|
Dylananimus
You have really bad luck with guilds it seems :/
Can't say I've come across similar myself, but then I've only been in 4 guilds, a friend's, my own, a random one, and the one I'm in and adore now.
Next time you join, make sure you ask questions about the guild's general ambiance and character. I guess it can be hard to tell, though :/ Good luck if you decide to search again.
Can't say I've come across similar myself, but then I've only been in 4 guilds, a friend's, my own, a random one, and the one I'm in and adore now.
Next time you join, make sure you ask questions about the guild's general ambiance and character. I guess it can be hard to tell, though :/ Good luck if you decide to search again.
mr_groovy
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by StormDragonZ
Warning: Some of this thread will be a rant.
I'm getting rather annoyed of joining a guild that has that one officer who just abuses their power of being one. Whether it being a complete jerk, acting like he/she is the greatest thing in the entire GW universe, or just spamming for no reason. Over the length of time of six months, I've been in over 15 guilds that has had one of these type of officers. The guild leader ignores it all the time, and the officer just enjoys kicking out people who try to tell him/her to shut up. |
)B: 6 months isn't nearly enough experience as people who have been playing for 1 year, or 2.
C:15 guilds in 6 months >.> it is your problem. 3 Guilds in 25 months. In 1 I've been Guild Leader >.>
Them > you.
Antheus
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by StormDragonZ
Over the length of time of six months, I've been in over 15 guilds that has had one of these type of officers.
|
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury: I present you - the culprit.
credit
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Antheus
Translation: I've never been in a guild longer than 10 days.
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury: I present you - the culprit. |
Voltaic Annihilator
Join mne ^^ were ALL friendly over 800 members
FeroxC
Yea the power has a strange effect on people. Even in my guild which i've been in for a good 2 years. I was in a strange mood and swore in guild chat and instead of a friendly "don't swear" i got threatened with a kick. This pissed me off and i egged him on till he did it. I got invited strait back by the guild leader but it almost resulted in me quitting a brilliant guild.
kratimas
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by StormDragonZ
Warning: Some of this thread will be a rant.
I'm getting rather annoyed of joining a guild that has that one officer who just abuses their power of being one. Whether it being a complete jerk, acting like he/she is the greatest thing in the entire GW universe, or just spamming for no reason. Over the length of time of six months, I've been in over 15 guilds that has had one of these type of officers. The guild leader ignores it all the time, and the officer just enjoys kicking out people who try to tell him/her to shut up. As of right now, I'm choosing to be not in a guild. (Getting kicked out once again not too long) So let me ask you all: Have you been in the same situation I've been in where one of the officers just really doesn't deserve to be one? If so, does the guild leader even listen if you try to explain the situation? Also, thank you for reading my thread. |
I guess I am trying to figure out if the common denominator in these 15 guilds is that 1 (different) guy or you?
Oh and to answer your question, no I have never been in this situation as I am in the same guild that I started in the day GW released.
I also agree that maybe your best bet is to stay guild less for a while. Give yourself some time to figure things out.
Krat
Kook~NBK~
Learn about the guild you're thinking of joining before putting on the cape!
Things to consider:
1. What are the guild's overall goals?
2. How is the guild structured/how many people are in it?
3. What is the makeup of the guild - a bunch of random people, or people who have taken the time to get to know each other?
3. Does the guild have a code of conduct?
4. What are their requirements for membership?
5. If they have a web site / forums - visit them
6. How long has the guild been around?
7. What have YOU got to offer any prospective guild?
8. Is their cape really that cool?
Taking your time with joining a guild is no bad thing, you can avoid a lot of problems that way. EXAMPLE: In my guild, we've had new members who failed to grasp the fact that we've been around for a long time - and all that that implies. They thought that they were going to take over how we ran our guild. They didn't stick around long.
Things to consider:
1. What are the guild's overall goals?
2. How is the guild structured/how many people are in it?
3. What is the makeup of the guild - a bunch of random people, or people who have taken the time to get to know each other?
3. Does the guild have a code of conduct?
4. What are their requirements for membership?
5. If they have a web site / forums - visit them
6. How long has the guild been around?
7. What have YOU got to offer any prospective guild?
8. Is their cape really that cool?
Taking your time with joining a guild is no bad thing, you can avoid a lot of problems that way. EXAMPLE: In my guild, we've had new members who failed to grasp the fact that we've been around for a long time - and all that that implies. They thought that they were going to take over how we ran our guild. They didn't stick around long.
Age
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by stretchs
My first suggestion is, stop hopping guilds. Secondly, it's quite possible you should do some background searching on the guilds you do join. And Ignore is always a handy option
|
anonymous
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by mr_groovy
A: No telling in guild chat to Officer to shut up. (I'm a officer too, you tell me to shut up, and i'll kick ya too
|
Harmless
So....you joined a guild, took a dislike to someone who, I'm guessing, had been in the guild for a long time, and began complaining.
And its happened 15 times in 6 months.
If it is a guild that has been around a while and people in it know each other and are friends, you can't go in and start complaining about people. Each guild has its own culture, either you fit in it or not. The guild can't change to suit you. You have to find one that you fit in.
Its hard to tell from what you said if the problem is you or them.
And its happened 15 times in 6 months.
If it is a guild that has been around a while and people in it know each other and are friends, you can't go in and start complaining about people. Each guild has its own culture, either you fit in it or not. The guild can't change to suit you. You have to find one that you fit in.
Its hard to tell from what you said if the problem is you or them.
chowmein69
Havnt been in this situation before.
Snow Bunny
I think the problem is you.
And to add to it, I'll do to you what I do to every member who complains about something.
/rank
/kick
And to add to it, I'll do to you what I do to every member who complains about something.
/rank
/kick
MarlinBackna
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
I think the problem is you.
And to add to it, I'll do to you what I do to every member who complains about something. /rank /kick |
Snow Bunny
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by MarlinBackna
And I think almost every guild officer/leader is the same way. I certainly don't want to get on the bad side of my guild leader, for he tears people like you apart....If I leave my guild, I will leave myself, not be kicked for there is a core group in my guild that have played together for a long time and they don't take any shit. Plain and simple. So....I think you will always run into this problem, unless you make your own guild. GL..
|
Thus, most people complaining about something complain about something stupid.
Antheus
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by credit
You have no clue what you're talking about... just think about a little.
|
If someone gets kicked from 15 guilds because officers are idiots - there is only one conclusion.
Common etiquette:
- One never says shut up to anyone. If someone is causing trouble on chat, first discover whether that really is trouble, or just the way the guild is. Telling someone to shut up is incredibly rude and hostile action in real world, one that only those in power may use.
- Some people are not team players. They'll get annoyed over minor things. Doesn't make them bad, evil or immature. They just can't be part of guilds or other teams. This is a simple fact of life one encounters daily.
- Guilds are larger than one person. Joining one means joining their way of doing things, their culture, past, ties, cliques. Coming in as smart-ass outsider won't end well. It may however quickly change if you prove you can handle yourself and might even get promoted to officer
- Officers are there to keep the guild running. If someone gets kicked, there might be a good reason for it. But whichever way. If they are really that bad, the guild will fall apart. Or only the members that are cool with officer's behavior will remain. Neither of those is bad.
- If leader supports the officer - then the member is at fault. This is the lesson everyone learns sooner or later. Don't fight the people above you. It's obvious who will lose.
But 15 guilds is a bit much. Way too much. It's quite easy to see what the guild is like during recruitment stage. I assume there was no recruitment stage?
Were these the guilds of 500+ members? If so, no comment... Members there are numbers. You either go with the flow, or you're out.
credit
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Antheus
I have a lot of clue what's going on.
If someone gets kicked from 15 guilds because officers are idiots - there is only one conclusion. |
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by StormDragonZ
I've been in over 15 guilds that has had one of these type of officers. The guild leader ignores it all the time, and the officer just enjoys kicking out people who try to tell him/her to shut up.
|
HayesA
Hey join NATO! We're not as active as most. But we could use more folk around who know what they're doing. ;-)
But, no, i've never been in such a situation. Only in my CS days have I ever been in a clan, or guild if you were.
But, no, i've never been in such a situation. Only in my CS days have I ever been in a clan, or guild if you were.
kratimas
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by anonymous
Thats just stupid. If I was officer and you were in my guild, I started calling you a bunch of names and said how bad you were at the game, and you tell me to shut up, you really think I have the right to kick you for that even though I was the one that did something wrong?
|
Krat
Shakti
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by credit
So ummm tell me where you're seeing this? Oh and 15 guilds isn't that much.
|
Six months (half a year) is around 183 days. 15 guilds in 183 days means he's hopping about once every 12 days. 12 days Now, I understand every once in awhile a guild is a bad fit for various reasons but c'mon.
@op, while officers and leaders do throw their power around sometimes, when a thing happens this often in this short amount of time....you need to look at yourself as the culpable party I think. Yes, people can get testy. When you are the new guy in any social situation, you are gonna hit a wall when you're perceived as rude or disrespectful to the people who've been there.
Zahr Dalsk
I'd kick anyone who started talking up to me as well.
I also immediately kick anyone who asks to be an officer (unless the leader tells me to let them stay).
I also immediately kick anyone who asks to be an officer (unless the leader tells me to let them stay).
credit
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Shakti
15 guilds over 2+ years may not be much, but six months?
Six months (half a year) is around 183 days. 15 guilds in 183 days means he's hopping about once every 12 days. 12 days |
Kusandaa
Never faced such an officer, and I've been in 7 guilds over 2 years and a half.
However, as an officer (and even if I wasn't) I don't take crap from anyone, and you bet our other officers don't as well. If you give us a bad first impression, you're on the bad start... if it doesn't change, people leave on their own for not getting their way, or get kicked for being annoying (our last kick was a guy who was pretty cool with us at first, but he ended up being really rude by raging and whatnot).
So ask questions and if it suits ya, go with the flow. If you're on the core member's bad side, bad start.
However, as an officer (and even if I wasn't) I don't take crap from anyone, and you bet our other officers don't as well. If you give us a bad first impression, you're on the bad start... if it doesn't change, people leave on their own for not getting their way, or get kicked for being annoying (our last kick was a guy who was pretty cool with us at first, but he ended up being really rude by raging and whatnot).
So ask questions and if it suits ya, go with the flow. If you're on the core member's bad side, bad start.
credit
Some of you should rethink your ban-happy tendencies.
kratimas
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by credit
Some of you should rethink your ban-happy tendencies.
|
Just saying,
Krat
Lady Yuna
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Kusandaa
Never faced such an officer, and I've been in 7 guilds over 2 years and a half.
However, as an officer (and even if I wasn't) I don't take crap from anyone, and you bet our other officers don't as well. If you give us a bad first impression, you're on the bad start... if it doesn't change, people leave on their own for not getting their way, or get kicked for being annoying (our last kick was a guy who was pretty cool with us at first, but he ended up being really rude by raging and whatnot). So ask questions and if it suits ya, go with the flow. If you're on the core member's bad side, bad start. |
But yeah.// I left 2 guilds just because the guild leader doesn't care about the issue,since he is the only one who can do something about it. And I'm not gonna get bosses over by one particular officer who thinks he is Oh-So-Mightier than the rest of the members. (and I hate rude people too
)
credit
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by kratimas
And some should really learn how to act in a guild....
|
Gattocheese
The guild i was in i think in early May had great officers. I was a member and worked my way up to being an officer. Later down the road, when it was time to promote a couple of new officers, we would recommend members who would be great officers. Me and a few other officers recommended a couple of people and in all actualality they were all mistakes. For some reason it is in human nature, not everyone but most, that when a person gets into a situation of power they lose sight on where they came from and gather a whole nother personality. A personality like they are better than everyone else or they become totally strict jerks. This happens in real life work places as well. There is usually one or two bad officers in every guild.
But being kicked many many times by different guilds over an over, sounds like a personal problem though.
But being kicked many many times by different guilds over an over, sounds like a personal problem though.
anonymous
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by kratimas
You've never been in the military, have you?
Krat |
Coloneh
i think ive been switching guild about this much recently. they all seem pretty terrible, but the problem i run into is not the officers being jerks, but having no idead how to play guild wars. the last guild i left after getting into an argument in guild chat with 3 officers and 5-6 members about why tanks are bad. those arent the kind of people i want in my guild, I want people who know how to play.