WTF Hackers on GW...?

sunder187

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

Well, I was quite surprised today while talking to someone in Shing Jea to find that he could... uh, crash my effing Game... <_<
Well, he demanded for ANet to unban all the 117s or tomorrow he will... Make AB unplayable, as in all who enter will crash and get dishonorable, and he will mess with the Kurzick/Luxon borderline.

Most of you will think this is a bullshit post or w/e... but I mean, look at this...
http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtfuw1.png
So, I don't know what he can/can't do, but I have never seen the ability to crash someone else's game before, so yeah... o.o

Steboy93

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

W/

Edit: Nevermind, this looks serious. I think we have a case of...

Lord Darksoul

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

Maybe very bad coincidence?

Otherwise, ANet can just ban him again, I seriously doubt he's capable of affecting the entire game for everyone.

gone

Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by sunder187
Well, he demanded for ANet to unban all the 117s or tomorrow he will... Make AB unplayable, as in all who enter will crash and get dishonorable, and he will mess with the Kurzick/Luxon borderline.
To Who and Where did he make these 'demands'? to you?

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Darksoul
Maybe very bad coincidence?

Otherwise, ANet can just ban him again, I seriously doubt he's capable of affecting the entire game for everyone.
people have been doing it before

Shakkara

Shakkara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

There have been various exploits in the past where people could disconnect/crash other players, there was even an exploit recently where people could get semi-GM status by a client hack, remember...

I wouldn't worry too much, so what if AB doesn't work tomorrow, it will only make Anet finally cracking down hard on these exploits.

X Ice Man X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

England

Maybe your one of the 117 and this is how you think you can get your account back?

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

There was a thread about a guy who could crash whole districts or maps and such (I think he "tested" it in AB and everyone d/c'ed), sounds like something similar. Attention seeker I'd guess, as several people noted already.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

And this is new how? Simmilar 'hacks' are in game since day 1, just not many people use them in public. I think a few posters here have shed some light on how they work and also notified A.Net about it.

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

Tell him he should go farm glad points if he can really d/c anyone.. whenever he wants.

Shakti

Shakti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Home...

Vier Reiter [Vier]

First, it's now 116 at least because at least 1 got his acct back lol

Second, I smell a distinct odor....kinda like cow manure.

Attempt by someone to get the " 117" bs back in discussion because most ppl have moved the hell on sounds much more likely than trying to hold gw hostage because yeah...I can see Anet sayingf

"Oh noes, you can hack our stuff? Here, come back, here's your acct we're sorry!"

Yeah...that'll happen

Dylananimus

Dylananimus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

The Eternal Champions

W/Mo

I'd suggest you pass on the information to the appropriate people

I've heard about things like this before, but don't worry if you haven't (even if people here expect everybody to know everything). Report the guy to ANet as soon as you can, via the webiste support.

Siirius Black

Siirius Black

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Dragon's Lair

La Legion Del Dragon

E/

Well, he may be able to crash some clients, but anet will just catch up with another update.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakti
First, it's now 116 at least because at least 1 got his acct back lol

Second, I smell a distinct odor....kinda like cow manure.
Who got his account back? and why?

sunder187

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

Well it's not ME for those of you who tihnk it is, but I know he can also do something with outposts, look...
http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtf2gs7.png

Also, it definately wasn't a normal error, he did it a few times to prove he could, and I have never heard of anything like this before O.o

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

Join date: Feb 2008
Total posts: 2

Sorry, I just can't take you seriously. Oh an in that picture, its says ''moral boost'' in the chat channel, but you don't have the icon that represents your boost.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Go to www.guildwars.com, under Support you will find Questions and Answers. There you can find a form to post complaints. Do so, and attach that screenshot.

If that guy has made some tool or modified his client to cause buffer overflows on another players remote client, and intends to extort ANet with it, then that's extremely serious; we're well past mere permabanning here, and headed towards FBI investigation and PMITA prison territory.

If you're not just making this up, report.

Tatile

Tatile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by sunder187
Also, it definately wasn't a normal error, he did it a few times to prove he could, and I have never heard of anything like this before O.o
It occured once before, and I believe that that particular exploit/hack/what-have-you was fixed. However it's entirely possible that it wasn't fixed finally enough, and with a bit of jigging was 're-opened' or that this is a similar result from a different exploit/hack. I do hope you've reported this to Anet instead of just sticking it on a fansite forum board and hoping.

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakti
First, it's now 116 at least because at least 1 got his acct back lol

Second, I smell a distinct odor....kinda like cow manure.

Attempt by someone to get the " 117" bs back in discussion because most ppl have moved the hell on sounds much more likely than trying to hold gw hostage because yeah...I can see Anet sayingf

"Oh noes, you can hack our stuff? Here, come back, here's your acct we're sorry!"

Yeah...that'll happen
He could of just bought a new account.

As for his claims... I'm assuming you took screenshots of the conversation? If so then just send those into support. If not, well then I'll guess that Anet probably won't have to hard of time finding out who it is and just re-ban them.

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

seeing how Anet fixed the pre-searing exploit, I see no reason to doubt the OP

Lord Xeshm

Lord Xeshm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Report the person and move on. Supply the necessary info and let Anet do the rest.

sunder187

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Molock
Join date: Feb 2008
Total posts: 2

Sorry, I just can't take you seriously. Oh an in that picture, its says ''moral boost'' in the chat channel, but you don't have the icon that represents your boost.
Well, this is from him...
http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?i...w343it7ee6.jpg

Shakti

Shakti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Home...

Vier Reiter [Vier]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaern Majes
He could of just bought a new account.

As for his claims... I'm assuming you took screenshots of the conversation? If so then just send those into support. If not, well then I'll guess that Anet probably won't have to hard of time finding out who it is and just re-ban them.
no, the guy I mean is a user here and posted what Anet email sent when they unbanned him. The info is here on the forums, but I think it's up to him to throw his name out if he wants to get into another crapstorm.

Personally, I smell bs all over all aspects of this op, but that's me.

carnage-runner

carnage-runner

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada, B.C. Vancouver. aka.. amazing.

[Sith]

W/Me

Oh boy oh boy oh boy. Feb 08 man that's gnarl time. But dude, people that can "hack" you into d/c'ing. This is like Halo2 only easier. Go report to anet because you reporting it here is just an attempt at blowing this issue up to scare the GW community or something of that nature. Which is silly because your account shows little credibility, and your claims lack evidence that would be valuable to us forum mongrels.

anyone agree that this thread should get closed before it gets too popular?

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sunder187
Tell him I want to meet him in-game.

[Morkai]

[Morkai]

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

Heroes of Elonia [HE]

W/Rt

GWLP Anyone? :/

Also it IS bs because his health would be a lot more than 3 figures if he had a 1337% morale boost.

Lord Xeshm

Lord Xeshm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Could it be the private Guild Wars server that people have created?

Edit: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10205152

Quote:
Originally Posted by Berek
GWLP Anyone? :/

Also it IS bs because his health would be a lot more than 3 figures if he had a 1337% morale boost.

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Xeshm
Could it be the private Guild Wars server that people have created?

Edit: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10205152
Haha, it could be! I didn't think of that

sunder187

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

It's not a private server, seeing as how his name is displayed in the last screen shot, PM his ass, also the morale boost is in town guys... you don't get the effects in town since ANet has never registered Morale boosts in town it won't work correctly.

stretchs

stretchs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

Untimely Demise [Err了] - SOHK

talk about shooped looking info. Those #s are not in the normal boost box, the normal boost colors or anything. They arent even friggin straight, that is a totally photoshopped image. Good lord if you are going to fake something at least do it where it is even marginally believable. The above poster could have easily been correct too that this is a gw private server, as there are a couple being worked on.

mintykanesh

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Hertfordshire, UK

Heavens Exiled [SiN]

W/

lol id love to have the programming skills a hacker like that would have lol. But just remember - even if he does ruin the game, he's just some fat hairy nerd living in his mothers basement - either way, you are better than him.

gone

Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

/edit ftw

Quote:
Originally Posted by sunder187
1. It IS the same colors, ofc it's going to be a little off-centered since you can't get above 10% Morale so the box is only made to be that big.
for someone who was 'sent' the pic, you sure seem to know an awful lot about it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sunder187
I think 'him' and 'you' know each other very well. LoL.

sunder187

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

You can tell by looking at it... I DO have eyes ffs

"I think 'him' and 'you' know each other very well. LoL." How...? He sent me that through the game because he saw that everyone was doubting his claim on here.

Sab

Sab

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

I've bumped into a few people who can demonstrably crash your client on demand. I'm not sure how it's done, but the exploit does exist.

DRGN

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

In Memorium [iBot]

Mo/A

Well, I'm still fairly skeptical, but there IS precedent for this, as has been shown before. I think the best thing would be to turn this over to Anet support as was suggested earlier.

gone

Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

so why is the link dead all of the sudden? that seems odd.

Slayer Z

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

The sweat shops of Taiwan/Scotland

Pirates of the Searing [YoHo]

Looks like some kind of hack that causes your clients buffer to overflow

Edit : That +1337 morale boost is simple client side memory editing.

A monkey could do it ¬_¬...

l3j

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

The GWLP game server doesn't have the capability to produce what you see in the screenshots. (Unless someone is working on it without my knowledge.) NPCs, parties and party formation, opening the map outside of pre-searing crashes the client (not easy to fix), guilds and capes are not supported, and those armor pieces are not in the database.

So unless someone has done a lot of work (the people I know who are currently working on it haven't been able to get it to work with the latest builds) they are either photoshopped (doubtful) or real.

If they are real it's just a case of ArenaNet not making sure the information sent from the client to the server is valid and safe.

JONO51

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

P/

I'll be laughing tommorow if he does destroy AB. Will be funny to see how crazy everyone gets. Dev team, assemble.......

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Shit.

He can actually do it

For some reason, only in Shiverpeaks arena or something.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sunder187
So... he can edit his client while in game without relogging...?
Yeah, you can do client-side memory editing to display bunch of funny stuff, but its still all just client-side. Its the same trick as its used in number of 'trainers'.