Armbraces
You just got tomahawked
So, i was sitting in Kamandan power-trading today wen something caught my eye. "W T S Armbrace 100k+15ecto." That is just crazy. It takes a long time to farm an armbrace and theyre worth 175k? They have been going down for awhile now but where is the breaking point. There has to be a point where it's just not worth it. How low do you think it can go? Should Anet intervene in the economy?
You can't see me
I would redirect you to any post involving duping, but I don't think I need to say anything aside from that to get my thoughts across on this.
Ephidel
If I ever manage to save up that much money, I'll let you know.
Even for such a high end item, that price is fine. Maybe if it were 10k or something, but it is not.
Even for such a high end item, that price is fine. Maybe if it were 10k or something, but it is not.
t(-_-t)
You know, once they nerf Ursangay, i mean ursanway, the economy will go back up.... but until then, all we have to do is wait...
Arkantos
The price is going to continue dropping because of ursan. Seeing as you can clear DoA with dumb monks and bad ursans, the price isn't going to rise any time soon.
You can't see me
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You know, once they nerf Ursangay, i mean ursanway, the economy will go back up.... but until then, all we have to do is wait... |
Chestnut
100k + 15? Thats still really expensive, I can't affroed that...
Remember the average guild wars player has less then 20k cash or something like that.
Remember the average guild wars player has less then 20k cash or something like that.
You just got tomahawked
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Originally Posted by Ephidel
If I ever manage to save up that much money, I'll let you know.
Even for such a high end item, that price is fine. Maybe if it were 10k or something, but it is not. |
Arkantos
The fact that it's still expensive has nothing to do with the situation. Before ursan, they were worth about 100k+50e and slowly decreasing in price. Since ursan, it's been dropping much faster then it would have been without ursan.
Chestnut
Isn't that a good thing though? honestly? Gives alot more people the shot at nice expensive looking equipment so we can look cool like the rest of you rich people. 
trobinson97
What's wrong with the price dropping?
shru
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100k + 15? Thats still really expensive, I can't affroed that...
Remember the average guild wars player has less then 20k cash or something like that. |
Anways, that statistic was absurdly askew, not factoring multiple/inactive accounts and plenty of other things. It's safe to say you can get by in GW with only 20k, but that you are infact poor.
Molock
Indeed, Ursan is really driving the price down..
And Armbraces aren't really for the people who don't wanna earn them.. so the fact that no everybody can afford them is not the issue. I wanna see Ursan nerfed and the market returning to a more "normal" (if it ever had been) state.
And Armbraces aren't really for the people who don't wanna earn them.. so the fact that no everybody can afford them is not the issue. I wanna see Ursan nerfed and the market returning to a more "normal" (if it ever had been) state.
Arkantos
Armbraces and tormented weapons were supposed to be hard to obtain, they were supposed to show some achievement. They were supposed to be high-end items. Now, they're nothing special because they're easily obtainable. For people who are too lazy/bad/can't for whatever reason to complete DoA, and too poor to afford the armbrace/tormented item, the price drop is good. For the people who got tormented weapons for e-peen (what all expensive items in PvE are for) and self-achievement, it's bad.
You just got tomahawked
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Isn't that a good thing though? honestly? Gives alot more people the shot at nice expensive looking equipment so we can look cool like the rest of you rich people.
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Arkantos
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Poor folks. You need to feel special so you seek it in a video game? Go out and try to achieve something real.
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You can't see me
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Poor folks. You need to feel special so you seek it in a video game? Go out and try to achieve something real. This almost makes me want to cry.
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You just got tomahawked
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Originally Posted by trobinson97
Poor folks. You need to feel special so you seek it in a video game? Go out and try to achieve something real. This almost makes me want to cry.
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P.S. Don't set yourself to up to get flamed.
Chestnut
In a world where everyone partys with heros and henchies anyway what does it matter if we all had shields we like to look at? not like we really form up for missions anymore anyway. lol
Here come all the ursan nerf people.. sigh.
Well I say leave ursan the way it is. Only now is it truely fun and insanely less frustration to do elite missions, and I've done them both ways.
Here come all the ursan nerf people.. sigh.
Well I say leave ursan the way it is. Only now is it truely fun and insanely less frustration to do elite missions, and I've done them both ways.
credit
Armbraces
People dupe them.
People dupe them.
Arkantos
Leave the ursan argument for another thread. This thread is about the price of armbraces and how ursan/other things are effecting it, not why ursan should (not) be nerfed.
arsie
You're in a game that has reached a certain maturity. More and more people are capable of doing DoA, largely due to Ursan's Blessing, but even if there wasn't, the number of people able to do it with Heroes and with the holy trinity will have increased.
From the trend that seems to be going on, Anet is not going to be making any content harder than DoA, and hence, nothing will be more valuable or take as much time. The Armbrace is the top end of the economy, and its deflating.
My reason for why it is deflating, is because GW has no upkeep costs, so everyone ends up being more than able to horde gold. So what if it was 100k 50ectos, there's still a fair chunk of people able to afford that now. Much more than it was when DoA was new.
Lets face it. It's arguably the "most special" but it is no longer very special.
From the trend that seems to be going on, Anet is not going to be making any content harder than DoA, and hence, nothing will be more valuable or take as much time. The Armbrace is the top end of the economy, and its deflating.
My reason for why it is deflating, is because GW has no upkeep costs, so everyone ends up being more than able to horde gold. So what if it was 100k 50ectos, there's still a fair chunk of people able to afford that now. Much more than it was when DoA was new.
Lets face it. It's arguably the "most special" but it is no longer very special.
Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
It won't be special when its 25k and everyone has a shield. then what makes you look "rich" when everyone has everything?
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If they nerf Ursan, that means I'll go back to 3-man DoA, which IMHO was less boring for me... no complains there. And if THAT doesn't work, I'll just find a new way to get quick cash. Always did so.
trobinson97
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
The main reason people get expensive items in GW do it for some sort of achievement. If you have 15k armor or expensive weapons, you're insulting yourself.
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Originally Posted by You can't See Me
The irony is you're posting on a fansite forum.
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Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
KTHX I'm in all honors classes. I'm number 10 in a class of 300 and I've lettered in 2 sports. I have achieved something real might as well do the same thing only this time in a video game.
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You just got tomahawked
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That's pretty awesome. Number 10 in 300? Color me impressed. Two sports? Nice. I am surprised that someone with so many real achievements can't see how whining about virtual achievement is silly. Takes all kinds I guess.
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You can't see me
Trob, I study Psychology. Do you want to get into a debate about the human drive for false achievement/playing video games for self worth, or do we want to get back on topic?
And no, it's not irony I suppose. It's more like a blend of stupidity, Sitcom Irony, and random humor.
And no, it's not irony I suppose. It's more like a blend of stupidity, Sitcom Irony, and random humor.
hallomik
Everything that can be repeatedly farmed will eventually come down in price.
You pay more for having it before others. If you can wait, you can save a lot of money - which is true in real life, too.
On the other hand, a lot of people like to be among the first. Whatever floats your dinghy.
You pay more for having it before others. If you can wait, you can save a lot of money - which is true in real life, too.
On the other hand, a lot of people like to be among the first. Whatever floats your dinghy.
V E R A T T A
I can farm a armbrace in 1 day, its sickening, 3 full runs, each run 1.5-2.5 hours depending on how coordinated the group is. Use the spare cash from the runs to buy any missing gems after the third run. Each gem is like 2-4k. At this rate, by next week....armbraces will probably be as low as 100k+10e.
credit
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Originally Posted by V E R A T T A
I can farm a armbrace in 1 day, its sickening, 3 full runs, each run 1.5-2.5 hours depending on how coordinated the group is. Use the spare cash from the runs to buy any missing gems after the third run. Each gem is like 2-4k. At this rate, by next week....armbraces will probably be as low as 100k+10e.
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Seriously though, do you really do three runs a day?
Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
It just gets me annoyed when something I worked at to buy for 100k+50 ecto is now worth 100k+ 15 ecto. Imagine buying a car for 50 grand and the next day your friend tells you he just bought it for 20 grand. You'd be pretty PO'd. I'm not whining I'm simpley expressing my frustration.
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Because I don't buy to compete with the guy next to me. I don't care if he got his armbrace for 100k+15e while I bought one at 100k+50e before.
I have what I like, I'm satisfied with it.
trobinson97
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Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
It just gets me annoyed when something I worked at to buy for 100k+50 ecto is now worth 100k+ 15 ecto. Imagine buying a car for 50 grand and the next day your friend tells you he just bought it for 20 grand. You'd be pretty PO'd. I'm not whining I'm simpley expressing my frustration.
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1. Bad timing on my part. I can't do anything about it, but next time I'll be a little more patient. This works great in real life because 20-50 grand is a lot of money for a lot of people, so they are more apt to be patient and finding deals. If this happened to me in the case of armbraces (which it actually has), I wouldn't (didn't) worry about it. Not everybody sells/buys for the same prices and prices themselves fluctuate over time. No big deal.
2. My haggling skills are suspect. Maybe my friend is a smooth talker and got the dealer to shave off 30 large. Can't hate on him for that. I just have to step my game up.
3. Simply could be a case of him getting his car at a different dealer who had different motivations for selling so much lower. Again, I can't hate on that. That's the way it is. I'd feel the same way if something happened like that in game. I can't expect one guy to sell me something for the same price that another person sold the exact item for. Nor can I get upset that the object I purchased is now cheaper.
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Trob, I study Psychology. Do you want to get into a debate about the human drive for false achievement/playing video games for self worth, or do we want to get back on topic?
And no, it's not irony I suppose. It's more like a blend of stupidity, Sitcom Irony, and random humor. |
I would love to. You take your pic.
As for that last bit,well, keep studying psychology.
Lykan
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I would redirect you to any post involving duping, but I don't think I need to say anything aside from that to get my thoughts across on this.
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Armbraces
People dupe them. |
The price is dependent on how much the gems it takes to exchange for an armbrace cost, currently a gemset is worth 17-20k.
If you want to blame anyone blame the DoA farmers.
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Originally Posted by V E R A T T A
I can farm a armbrace in 1 day, its sickening, 3 full runs, each run 1.5-2.5 hours depending on how coordinated the group is. Use the spare cash from the runs to buy any missing gems after the third run. Each gem is like 2-4k. At this rate, by next week....armbraces will probably be as low as 100k+10e.
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Kusandaa
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The price is dependent on how much the gems it takes to exchange for an armbrace cost, currently a gemset is worth 17-20k.
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romeus petrus
It is sad to see the prices of armbraces and tormented weapons collapse the way they did. Tormented weapons should be something ppl work hard to get, not something everyone and their dog get in under 1 week of trying. They need to either introduce new elite areas/skins or increase the number of gems required to make armbraces. 100+10-20e for an armbrase is just absurd.
GEXTE
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Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
So, i was sitting in Kamandan power-trading today wen something caught my eye. "W T S Armbrace 100k+15ecto." That is just crazy. It takes a long time to farm an armbrace and theyre worth 175k? They have been going down for awhile now but where is the breaking point. There has to be a point where it's just not worth it. How low do you think it can go? Should Anet intervene in the economy?
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Most people just don't want to spend time to farm/trade for it and still pay those crazy high prizes.
So i totally disagree with the OP. They are over-priced.
Tom Swift
It is one of the few things in the game anymore that is worth a lot of cash (aside from very rare minis). As a result it gets over farmed. I haven't seen an armbrace advertised for sale for more than 100k + 25e in the last week so +15e is not surprising if someone wanted to sell a little quicker than competition.
Chances are it will drop further when the new DaWs enter the game as the market is almost saturated for tormented weapons by now and the only reason they have held their worth was there was nothing new or unusual since GWEN.
Chances are it will drop further when the new DaWs enter the game as the market is almost saturated for tormented weapons by now and the only reason they have held their worth was there was nothing new or unusual since GWEN.
V E R A T T A
Ah Berry, my good friend....aka "The Walmart Warrior"
you still think they are overpriced? remember when our full runs used to take like 9 hours, now they take 2. the good ol days
you still think they are overpriced? remember when our full runs used to take like 9 hours, now they take 2. the good ol days
Kula
Maybe you paid more for your armbrace because you bought it in LA. They have to add in the import tax and shipping + handling to bring it overseas from Elona to Tyria.
GEXTE
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Ah Berry, my good friend....aka "The Walmart Warrior"
you still think they are overpriced? remember when our full runs used to take like 9 hours, now they take 2. the good ol days |
).We did it without ursan and i believe they also nerfed normal mode too when they introduced hard mode (making normal mode easier).
I don't exactely remember what the armbraces went for at that time since i whacked all my gems on coffers (over 100 coffers without getting a brace or a mini mallyx, that's why i am still "The Walmart Warrior"
), but i think it was 100k+50e?So compared to the old days and the 100k+50e than and the 100k+20e now, yes, i believe they are way over-priced!
chowmein69
Might achually be able to buy an armbrace now at this price