What is a bad player?
Akuma
longasc is terrible, rhanoct ur gud
Angelic Upstart
A good player is one who adapts over time, learns what is good and bad and tries to play as a team, a bad player is one who does not adapt and continually uses the same shitty skills despite repeated attempts to help him out, for example someone who likes to Frenzy away whilst Spiteful Spirit, or spirit shackles are on him
The question is somewhat ambiguous though..
The question is somewhat ambiguous though..
Turtle222
Bad Players:
Do not adapt
are not nice
feel a game allows them to show their deep perverted, ugly side
like porridge *yuck*
Do not adapt
are not nice
feel a game allows them to show their deep perverted, ugly side
like porridge *yuck*
Alex the Great
bad players are like terrorists:
they could be anywhere, even in your party,
and they ruin everything for the rest of us.
anyone could be a bad player
they could be anywhere, even in your party,
and they ruin everything for the rest of us.
anyone could be a bad player
Master Knightfall
A bad player is one who thinks if it ain't on wiki then it's not any good. A bad player uses cookie cutter builds and think they are in godmode. lol A bad player is one who puts down an abstract build they have never seen just because it's not on wiki or is unothorodoxed without even trying it first. A bad player are the majority who post like they have some kind of inherent rank and knowledge about the game even though they've only played it a couple of months. A bad player is usually an igmo.
Holly Herro
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Bad player is either a noob (right definition) or a person that has no skill, a newbie (bad definition).
Noob is someone that uses a bad build and doesn't want to change it, no matter how politely or well people will try to convince him. He thinks that defense = offense in PvP or uses an Ursan in pve. Newbie is or is not using a bad build/uses it wrong, but if he doesn't know how to use it, yet he knows that he's bad and wants to improve. He also knows Ursan is not good for pve. |
Wait, what am I saying build. I mean skill.
Ursan is not a bad skill. It is a cheap skill. Requires not much effort/none.
Terraban
People who refuse help from an assassin with 15k Kurzick armor for Vizunah Square mission because "assassins suck".
Issac
People who don't know what their doing and still don't listen to you when you try to tell them :S.
quickmonty
Anyone who thinks he is good just because he has 15K armor.
genofreek
Pretty much anyone who sucks at the game, in PvE or PvP, and when you try to help them out they give you a long list of things they've accomplished. Like "Maybe Rebirth isn't the best thing to put on an ele hero..." "SCREW U I GOT PROT OF CANTHA USING THAT BILD AND ALSO I BEAT ABADDON AND DID KORMIR /rank /rank /rank" Especially when they end it with a passive-aggressive "but w/e".
As if it makes them better players.
As if it makes them better players.
Snow Bunny
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Originally Posted by Terraban
People who refuse help from an assassin with 15k Kurzick armor for Vizunah Square mission because "assassins suck".
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That's why people from [eF] parade around with fow and gold capes; you really think they're good players?
No, they just farm like crazy.
Johnny_Chang
[skill]frenzy[/skill] + [skill]mending[/skill]
HawkofStorms
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Armor says nothing about your skill.
That's why people from [eF] parade around with fow and gold capes; you really think they're good players? No, they just farm like crazy. |
a) assassins suck
b) doesn't even realize that this guy has clearly already beaten this mission before, and therefore knows it fairly well.
Sparks Dawnbringer
Jetdoc you got it right!
Zahr Dalsk
Bad player -> someone who ran Balanced in HA and got beaten by Spiritway dozens of times before the nerf, and called it a bad build, despite being beaten by it so many times.
Oh, wait, my bad. That was the definition of an idiot.
Oh, wait, my bad. That was the definition of an idiot.
anonymous
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Originally Posted by Terraban
People who refuse help from an assassin with 15k Kurzick armor for Vizunah Square mission because "assassins suck".
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
b) doesn't even realize that this guy has clearly already beaten this mission before, and therefore knows it fairly well.
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genofreek
I guess you could assume he ebayed his amber and hired runners, but I think the better assumption is that the guy knows what he's doing.
Plenty of sins blow, but there are quite a few who understand the class and make it work.
Plenty of sins blow, but there are quite a few who understand the class and make it work.
Thorondor Port
I feel everytime I play im only getting better.
(or at least not worse)
(or at least not worse)
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Chang
[skill]frenzy[/skill] + [skill]mending[/skill]
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BigDave
IMO there is more than one type of bad player. People with a bad attitude, while they may be quite skilled at playing the game they just come across as arseholes. People who refuse to take advice and insist that their skills/tactics are perfect, even when they're obviously far from it. People who refuse to play their role in a team and constantly make things more difficult for everyone else. People who are just out there to annoy others. People who refuse to take a certain class of character into any group because they stereotype.
A good player however is pretty much the opposite of the above. They will learn from others, take advice when it's good, be polite, be willing to run various team setups and give something a try, learn to play their role in a team/listen to instructions. Players like these are usually the ones who end up helping others further down the line.
In my experience anyway.
A good player however is pretty much the opposite of the above. They will learn from others, take advice when it's good, be polite, be willing to run various team setups and give something a try, learn to play their role in a team/listen to instructions. Players like these are usually the ones who end up helping others further down the line.
In my experience anyway.
Crom The Pale
A good player can accomplish much with very little, in other words can use inefficient skills/builds and still get the job done.
A bad player will fail even with good skills/builds.
A good person will remember this is just a game and not get overly upset if he fails a mission/quest.
A bad person will get mad, mostly at eveyone else but themselves, if they fail a mission/quest/PvP/ect...
A bad player will fail even with good skills/builds.
A good person will remember this is just a game and not get overly upset if he fails a mission/quest.
A bad person will get mad, mostly at eveyone else but themselves, if they fail a mission/quest/PvP/ect...
llsektorll
someone that using mending and or healing breeze.... thats right monks im talking to you... when im getting spiked... slapping on a healing breeze is a waste of energy.... and u pathetic wammos with your mending... haha u make me laugh
Diddy bow
Anyone not willing to learn how to be better.
YunSooJin
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Originally Posted by Jetdoc
A bad player, IMO, is someone that calls another player bad.
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Akuma
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Originally Posted by YunSooJin
this here, is the definition of a bad player
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Bowstring Badass
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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
A good player can accomplish much with very little, in other words can use inefficient skills/builds and still get the job done.
A bad player will fail even with good skills/builds. A good person will remember this is just a game and not get overly upset if he fails a mission/quest. A bad person will get mad, mostly at eveyone else but themselves, if they fail a mission/quest/PvP/ect... |
Agreed.
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Danax
A bad player is someone who is not a good player.
Now create a thread on what is a good player.
Now create a thread on what is a good player.
Lord Natural
Difficult to define with regards to Guild Wars, but generally a bad video game player will meet one or more of the following criteria: Poor understanding of a game's mechanics (factoring in experience), poor reflexes, poor timing, poor prioritization, poor gaming instincts.
It's a bit easier to judge yourself as a player if you're an avid gamer in general. I mean if you grew up with games and generally succeed at an above average level in most games you devote yourself to, given enough practice with Guild Wars it's a fair assumption that you will learn to play it at a respectable level. That doesn't mean GW players who don't have extensive gaming experience are necessarily at a disadvantage, as I've played with some great players who haven't gamed a lot outside of GW. But generally if you're bad at video games in general, it shouldn't come as a shock to you if you're not the best GW player ever.
Some types of games don't follow this rule, as they may depend on strategy not really inherent to pure reflexes and instinct. For example, it's not a given that a player who is great at Street Fighter will be equally as adept at playing Starcraft. But I think Guild Wars incorporates aspects from many gaming genres, so both Starcraft and Street Fighter gurus can find some kind of niche in Guild Wars.
Time and practice are also significant factors, and I'm sure there are many more I haven't mentioned. So yeah, it's not easy to define a bad player with respect to GW. It doesn't help that GW has piss poor statistics which don't really reflect an individual player's core gameplay (lol moral chart). It's much easier to define a bad player in an FPS or RTS because stats play a huge part. All you can really do in GW is observe and follow your intuition in judging a player.
It's a bit easier to judge yourself as a player if you're an avid gamer in general. I mean if you grew up with games and generally succeed at an above average level in most games you devote yourself to, given enough practice with Guild Wars it's a fair assumption that you will learn to play it at a respectable level. That doesn't mean GW players who don't have extensive gaming experience are necessarily at a disadvantage, as I've played with some great players who haven't gamed a lot outside of GW. But generally if you're bad at video games in general, it shouldn't come as a shock to you if you're not the best GW player ever.
Some types of games don't follow this rule, as they may depend on strategy not really inherent to pure reflexes and instinct. For example, it's not a given that a player who is great at Street Fighter will be equally as adept at playing Starcraft. But I think Guild Wars incorporates aspects from many gaming genres, so both Starcraft and Street Fighter gurus can find some kind of niche in Guild Wars.
Time and practice are also significant factors, and I'm sure there are many more I haven't mentioned. So yeah, it's not easy to define a bad player with respect to GW. It doesn't help that GW has piss poor statistics which don't really reflect an individual player's core gameplay (lol moral chart). It's much easier to define a bad player in an FPS or RTS because stats play a huge part. All you can really do in GW is observe and follow your intuition in judging a player.
byteme!
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A bad player, IMO, is someone that calls another player bad.
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RhanoctJocosa
~90% of the people who posted in this thread
blood4blood
Example of bad player:
The R/N in Tahnakai Temple mission PUG I joined a few months back who called himself "pr0" and said "I'll do the pulling" - then proceeded to run into mobs, cast Life Siphon, then stand in place firing his bow. Once an enemy died he raised a minion - level 8 or 9 or so. He never called targets, and failed to target enemy healers. After causing a party wipe by pulling too many mobs at once he then bitched about it and /ragequit. The rest of us restarted the mission without him (and got Masters lol). That guy pretty much demonstrated all the traits of a bad PvE player - negative attitude, blamed others, claimed skill he lacked, bad build, bad skill usage, etc.
Someone who continues to play like that example and refuses to learn/improve is what I'd call a n00b.
The R/N in Tahnakai Temple mission PUG I joined a few months back who called himself "pr0" and said "I'll do the pulling" - then proceeded to run into mobs, cast Life Siphon, then stand in place firing his bow. Once an enemy died he raised a minion - level 8 or 9 or so. He never called targets, and failed to target enemy healers. After causing a party wipe by pulling too many mobs at once he then bitched about it and /ragequit. The rest of us restarted the mission without him (and got Masters lol). That guy pretty much demonstrated all the traits of a bad PvE player - negative attitude, blamed others, claimed skill he lacked, bad build, bad skill usage, etc.
Someone who continues to play like that example and refuses to learn/improve is what I'd call a n00b.
Faer
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what is a good player.
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RhanoctJocosa
Amazing players are Korean. Like Blink. Damn amazing.
EDIT: Arkantos is a bad player ~<3
EDIT: Arkantos is a bad player ~<3
CyberNigma
a bad player is one that doesn't know how to have fun and takes the game too seriously, whereas a good one still remembers its a game and enjoys himself while allowing those around him/her to enjoy themselves in a similar manner
Master Knightfall
Once you learn it doesn't matter what other people think about you then you become a good player. Overcoming peer pressure or elitist pressure or think they know it all pressure are the greatest bad player experiences you will encounter. Just ignore them. <grin>
Thus: A player calling another player a bad player for calling anyone else a bad player is him/herself a bad player an on an on. Which means everyone who posts in this thread is a bad player and shouldn't care what other people think about it. <grin>
Thus: A player calling another player a bad player for calling anyone else a bad player is him/herself a bad player an on an on. Which means everyone who posts in this thread is a bad player and shouldn't care what other people think about it. <grin>
Terra Xin
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Originally Posted by Master Knightfall
Once you learn it doesn't matter what other people think about you then you become a good player. Overcoming peer pressure or elitist pressure or think they know it all pressure are the greatest bad player experiences you will encounter. Just ignore them. <grin>
Thus: A player calling another player a bad player for calling anyone else a bad player is him/herself a bad player an on an on. Which means everyone who posts in this thread is a bad player and shouldn't care what other people think about it. <grin> |
Ya, you will encounter such instances where people think that they are better than you with a 5 second assessment. Tell them off, it's that simple. If they give you more slack, then you tell them off some more. If they put you on ignore, then you come out on top. It's better to stand up to people than to let them carry on and piss off more people.
Steboy93
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I keep seeing the term bad player pop up on this forum and I would like to know the definition of a bad player.
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Kook~NBK~
Signs of a bad player in PvE:
1. A player who says "Kick the ____" when they join a party.
2. A player who says "ping skill bar" but won't ping their own.
3. A player who uses a skill bar that's designed for another profession (No MM or healing Elementalists, please!)
4. A. player who insists on cookie cutter builds (It's OK to replace a B/P ranger with an ele in Tombs. It really is)
5. A player who insists that their way is the only way to do something.
6. A player who doesn't have the patience to watch and learn patrol routes when entering unfamiliar territory.
7. A player who sees a chest and leaves his party in the middle of a battle to go get it. (The damn thing's not going anywhere, people!)
8. A player who tries to leech their way through things.
9. A player who tries pulling with anything other than a longbow (generally speaking, here). Why not use the weapon with the longest range and has the best chance of success?
10. A player who thinks monks have infinite healing capabilities.
11. A player who insists they know what they're talking about when they clearly don't.
12. The jerks who cap their elite skill and leave during a mission/quest. They were the first major blow to PUGs, the scum-bags.
Signs of a bad player in ABs:
1. A player who says "ping skill bar" but won't ping their own.
2. A melee character that keeps swinging away when they've got empathy on them. (Cyclone Axe+Triple Chop + Empathy = Dead Wammo!)
3. A player who decides that he can solo the mob.
4. A player that doesn't get with their group at the beginning of the match.
5. A party leader that doesn't direct his/her team at the beginning of a match.
6. Leechers.
7. A player who calls the person who just killed them a noob.
8. A player that doesn't grasp the concept of capping shrines.
9. A player who tries to get back to their group and doesn't take the time to find the closest allies to join up with after rezzing.
10. Trash talkers.
1. A player who says "Kick the ____" when they join a party.
2. A player who says "ping skill bar" but won't ping their own.
3. A player who uses a skill bar that's designed for another profession (No MM or healing Elementalists, please!)
4. A. player who insists on cookie cutter builds (It's OK to replace a B/P ranger with an ele in Tombs. It really is)
5. A player who insists that their way is the only way to do something.
6. A player who doesn't have the patience to watch and learn patrol routes when entering unfamiliar territory.
7. A player who sees a chest and leaves his party in the middle of a battle to go get it. (The damn thing's not going anywhere, people!)
8. A player who tries to leech their way through things.
9. A player who tries pulling with anything other than a longbow (generally speaking, here). Why not use the weapon with the longest range and has the best chance of success?
10. A player who thinks monks have infinite healing capabilities.
11. A player who insists they know what they're talking about when they clearly don't.
12. The jerks who cap their elite skill and leave during a mission/quest. They were the first major blow to PUGs, the scum-bags.
Signs of a bad player in ABs:
1. A player who says "ping skill bar" but won't ping their own.
2. A melee character that keeps swinging away when they've got empathy on them. (Cyclone Axe+Triple Chop + Empathy = Dead Wammo!)
3. A player who decides that he can solo the mob.
4. A player that doesn't get with their group at the beginning of the match.
5. A party leader that doesn't direct his/her team at the beginning of a match.
6. Leechers.
7. A player who calls the person who just killed them a noob.
8. A player that doesn't grasp the concept of capping shrines.
9. A player who tries to get back to their group and doesn't take the time to find the closest allies to join up with after rezzing.
10. Trash talkers.
blue.rellik
Someone that uses prot-less monks
Someone that thinks warriors suck at killing
Someone that thinks paragons suck at GW
Someone that thinks eles, Barragers and SS necros are the only things capable of killing in GW
Someone that uses tank 'n' spank
Someone that uses Ursan outside of that mission
If you are part of any of those then I think (know) you're a bad player
Someone that thinks warriors suck at killing
Someone that thinks paragons suck at GW
Someone that thinks eles, Barragers and SS necros are the only things capable of killing in GW
Someone that uses tank 'n' spank
Someone that uses Ursan outside of that mission
If you are part of any of those then I think (know) you're a bad player
afrika18
Bad players......good God, don't get me started. Well, now that I've started....
First of all, this Game is Holy and bad players deserve to go to Hell. A bad player is anyone who uses a bad build or who doesn't know the language of Guild Wars. This includes new players who have no way of knowing these things. In a Game this important and holy, there is no excuse for not knowing all about it ahead of time. People who make mistakes in the game are also bad players and shouldn't be allowed to log on (in fact, they should be tracked down in real life, and "disciplined", if you catch my drift). Video games are the most important thing there is and I brook little irreverence where they are concerned. You mess up in an instance and you deserve to (unspeakable). You have obligations like kids, wife, job, family, whatever....? To hell with them. The Game is more important.
First of all, this Game is Holy and bad players deserve to go to Hell. A bad player is anyone who uses a bad build or who doesn't know the language of Guild Wars. This includes new players who have no way of knowing these things. In a Game this important and holy, there is no excuse for not knowing all about it ahead of time. People who make mistakes in the game are also bad players and shouldn't be allowed to log on (in fact, they should be tracked down in real life, and "disciplined", if you catch my drift). Video games are the most important thing there is and I brook little irreverence where they are concerned. You mess up in an instance and you deserve to (unspeakable). You have obligations like kids, wife, job, family, whatever....? To hell with them. The Game is more important.