What is a bad player?

Gregslot

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

A bad player is a player that uses those ridiculous gloves and bandanas and dye them black just to use the most expensive dye.
And also a bad player pays ridiculous ammounts of gold for "rare" itens (no matter how ridiculous they look) and expose them to other players and consider other players with more "common" itens inferior and pathetic.
And also dont realize how idiotic and stupid they look with such itens.
AKA: Warriors with bandanas, gladiator's torso, obsidian leggings and boots and dragon gloves, all dyed black (we can all imagine the picture)

XBC

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Indiana

[ROME]

W/Mo

In my opinion, there are multiple ways to become labeled as a "bad player".
I, for one, am a bad player because my reaction time isn't all that great, nor do I pay enough attention to what's going on, even though I know exactly what I should be doing and how I should be doing it.
Others are bad players because they won't learn or listen to more experienced players.These are the players who love to never use logic in any situation.
Yet even more bad players are those who are incredibly good at this game, but would rather condescend than help a less experienced player who is willing to learn,
etc...

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
Armor says nothing about your skill.

That's why people from [eF] parade around with fow and gold capes; you really think they're good players?

No, they just farm like crazy.
Delayed reply....

But it does say something...I have already beaten Vizunah Square, so it's not like I am struggling through and need their help.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terraban
Delayed reply....

But it does say something...I have already beaten Vizunah Square, so it's not like I am struggling through and need their help.
Ha! I was right. I knew that was your point. Take that trolls!

Buster

Buster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Elona

Clan Eternal Legion

D/W

No such thing as a bad player, only one who has not had as much experience compared to others who have been playing a long time.

Jenn

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

People who lack common sense. Those who have the ability/desire to adapt, learn, be aware (team and self) and think critically will gradulally improve on their own. I feel like these people are a very, very small percentage of the players in guild wars.

Faure

Faure

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mystic Spiral [MYST]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus
Bad player is either a noob (right definition) or a person that has no skill, a newbie (bad definition).

Noob is someone that uses a bad build and doesn't want to change it, no matter how politely or well people will try to convince him. He thinks that defense = offense in PvP or uses an Ursan in pve.

Newbie is or is not using a bad build/uses it wrong, but if he doesn't know how to use it, yet he knows that he's bad and wants to improve. He also knows Ursan is not good for pve.
You do know noob is slang for newbie?

# (link / top) Short form of newbie, someone who is new to RPGs. Also written as “n00b.”
www.treasuretables.org/rpg-glossary

# Newbie. Someone new to a computer related topic.
linux.about.com/od/quake_games/a/hwtqwk09t08.htm

# A person new to a concept or game. This is often used in chat as an insult against other players in a game (ex: "You're such a fracking NOOB"), but can be used in the gentler form to relay your inexperience (ex: "Hi, I'm sorry, but I'ma newbie at this. Can you please help me?")
tech-terms.com/index.php

# The word newbie is used mostly in Internet gaming culture. Its definition is to be new to something, mainly video games or an internet service. There are variant spellings, such as newb, n00b, nob, noob and nub, although noob is sometimes used as another definition.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noob

Sanji

Sanji

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

To me, a bad player is someone who knowingly and repeatedly hinders the fun for other players and shows absolutely no remorse for it.

Also noob is a ridiculous word and nobody should say it much less argue what their definition of it is. Ever.

afrika18

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terraban
People who refuse help from an assassin with 15k Kurzick armor for Vizunah Square mission because "assassins suck".
I don't care what kind of armor an assassin has....they could be encased in marble and be invincible and do 1,000,000,000 dps.....if they are assassin, they don't get into my party because assassins suck. I won't even accept an assassin if that is all that is available. When ever that happens I just log off. I don't even talk to assassins because anyone who plays one must be a real loser in real life too.

I wouldn't even accept an assassin in my party if I were PAID in REAL CASH to do it. Not for any amount of money...to do so would engender being called a n00b.

RavagerOfDreams

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

A/

a bad player would b the guy who just posted a thread telling everyone how great he is and how he is going to kill us

unfortunately a mod either moved the thread to someplace where no one will ever find it or deleted it which makes me sad cuz it was funny

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

watch my guild leader play, there should sketch you a good idea what bad truly is.

Earth

Earth

Always Outnumbered

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by afrika18
I don't care what kind of armor an assassin has....they could be encased in marble and be invincible and do 1,000,000,000 dps.....if they are assassin, they don't get into my party because assassins suck. I won't even accept an assassin if that is all that is available. When ever that happens I just log off. I don't even talk to assassins because anyone who plays one must be a real loser in real life too.

I wouldn't even accept an assassin in my party if I were PAID in REAL CASH to do it. Not for any amount of money...to do so would engender being called a n00b.
There's one for you right there!

Master Knightfall

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faure
You do know noob is slang for newbie?

# (link / top) Short form of newbie, someone who is new to RPGs. Also written as “n00b.”
www.treasuretables.org/rpg-glossary

# Newbie. Someone new to a computer related topic.
linux.about.com/od/quake_games/a/hwtqwk09t08.htm

# A person new to a concept or game. This is often used in chat as an insult against other players in a game (ex: "You're such a fracking NOOB"), but can be used in the gentler form to relay your inexperience (ex: "Hi, I'm sorry, but I'ma newbie at this. Can you please help me?")
tech-terms.com/index.php

# The word newbie is used mostly in Internet gaming culture. Its definition is to be new to something, mainly video games or an internet service. There are variant spellings, such as newb, n00b, nob, noob and nub, although noob is sometimes used as another definition.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noob
That's not the definition of NOOB/NEWBIE where I come from.

NOOB = Idiot Moron Stupid Dumb Ignorant Retard Loser

NEWBIE = New to the game or experience: Just beginning to learn (they have a short period of time to catch on about 2 weeks and if they haven't by then then they are moved up in ranks to NOOB!) <grin>

Sorry, but, wiki isn't the be all know all of definitions and what they mean if you believe that then YOU are a NOOB! haha

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

I like you, Master Knightfall.

Bad players have terrible awareness and bad judgement.

RavagerOfDreams

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by afrika18
I don't care what kind of armor an assassin has....they could be encased in marble and be invincible and do 1,000,000,000 dps.....if they are assassin, they don't get into my party because assassins suck. I won't even accept an assassin if that is all that is available. When ever that happens I just log off. I don't even talk to assassins because anyone who plays one must be a real loser in real life too.

I wouldn't even accept an assassin in my party if I were PAID in REAL CASH to do it. Not for any amount of money...to do so would engender being called a n00b.
Click here please sin hater

we love you to

[DE]

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

A noob is someone who refuses to learn and take advice. If someone is willing to listen to a more experienced player than they have a chance to not be bad.

visitor

visitor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kronos HQ

W/

A bad player is someone who doesnt (or wont) learn from his/her mistakes

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by RavagerOfDreams
Very nice website.

And Faure, that is not the correct definition of "noob" and "newb." Noob is an isult. Newb is a new player.
Words can have connotactions that go beyond the actually meaning. For example, if you look up the word "cold" and the word "chilly" they might both give you the exact same definition (to not be hot). But "cold" is generally used to mean colder then "chilly."

RockmanHero

RockmanHero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Belmont, CA

Dancin' On Graves

Mo/

According to all the monk guides I read, I am a bad player. I am awful; I am horrible; however, because of heroes and henchmen, I don't have to care.

shru

shru

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by afrika18
I don't care what kind of armor an assassin has....they could be encased in marble and be invincible and do 1,000,000,000 dps.....if they are assassin, they don't get into my party because assassins suck. I won't even accept an assassin if that is all that is available. When ever that happens I just log off. I don't even talk to assassins because anyone who plays one must be a real loser in real life too.

I wouldn't even accept an assassin in my party if I were PAID in REAL CASH to do it. Not for any amount of money...to do so would engender being called a n00b.
It's narrow minded idiots like you who drove the final nail in the coffin that is the PvE sin.

Edit:
come to think of it, it was you who killed the pug too. You can argue this and that about rhe death of pugs, but when it comes down to it, it was the elitism and general racist type actions that forced us to seek better options.(guild groups/henchies and heros) Sure there were bad players, but even with a few weak links, it was hard not to accomplish PvE objectives (there's just not much to them.)

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Quote:
Originally Posted by afrika18
I don't care what kind of armor an assassin has....they could be encased in marble and be invincible and do 1,000,000,000 dps.....if they are assassin, they don't get into my party because assassins suck. I won't even accept an assassin if that is all that is available. When ever that happens I just log off. I don't even talk to assassins because anyone who plays one must be a real loser in real life too.

I wouldn't even accept an assassin in my party if I were PAID in REAL CASH to do it. Not for any amount of money...to do so would engender being called a n00b.
Would you take........(dramatic pause)....... a Mesmer? Only bad players can't recognize the things that each of the various professions bring to the table.

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by afrika18
I don't care what kind of armor an assassin has....they could be encased in marble and be invincible and do 1,000,000,000 dps.....if they are assassin, they don't get into my party because assassins suck. I won't even accept an assassin if that is all that is available. When ever that happens I just log off. I don't even talk to assassins because anyone who plays one must be a real loser in real life too.

I wouldn't even accept an assassin in my party if I were PAID in REAL CASH to do it. Not for any amount of money...to do so would engender being called a n00b.
My guess is that his fire ele gets owned by them in AB.

some guy

some guy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

SPAWN CAMPING YOUR HOUSE

We Speed Clear H O H [ HsC]

Quote:
Originally Posted by afrika18
I don't care what kind of armor an assassin has....they could be encased in marble and be invincible and do 1,000,000,000 dps.....if they are assassin, they don't get into my party because assassins suck. I won't even accept an assassin if that is all that is available. When ever that happens I just log off. I don't even talk to assassins because anyone who plays one must be a real loser in real life too.

I wouldn't even accept an assassin in my party if I were PAID in REAL CASH to do it. Not for any amount of money...to do so would engender being called a n00b.
I'm sorry, but you are just asking for flames.
A true noob is some 1 who don't know what each profession can do.

kooomar

kooomar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

Pow Pow Pow [myau]

Mo/E

Any monk with healing breeze.

t_the_nihilst

t_the_nihilst

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Columbus, OH

So Goth We Crap [Bats], Friday The [13th]

Me/

To me:

Good player: Plays to the best of their ability. They might not know everything about the game, but they try and attempt to grow as a player.

Bad player: Doesn't try, doesn't listen, doesn't pay attention. Doesn't matter how long they've been playing or what rank they are.

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
A combination of multiple negative personal attributes.

A 'bad player' and a new player are distinguishable because a newbie can be excused for his ignorance whereas a bad player retains his ignorance, bad habits and attitude throughout and shows little sign of adapting. For example, people still run Mending wammos in RA that have been playing for a long while despite widespread knowledge that is it a sub-par build with negligible damage and weak healing.

The same applies to people in HA and GvG who farmed fame and champion points with IWAY, Spiritway etc and have an inflated sense of self worth as a result. They fail to realise that their achievements are a result of exploiting imbalances and using builds straight from pvxwiki without applying any sort of real talent, skill or cooperation.

There's also a spectrum of maturity that contributes to a good and bad player. The whole "learn2play", "gtfo noob" and alike Internet clichés give players a bad reputation too.
Too many hours on the forums?

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

A bad player? lol..... stares at everyone....

<3

Quite honestly, it the stubborn players that actually yell at you or call you foul names when you make a friendly suggestion about whatever to help them improve.

bungusmaximus

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

Skilled player that refuses to work together = bad player
Noob that refuses to work together = human waste
Noob that works together = good player after a while
skilled player that works together = good player

Master Sword Keeper

Master Sword Keeper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dead Isle

Farmers Of Woe [FoW]

W/

i dunno really...I suppose a bad player is someone who is level 20 and still has starter armour and think he/she is a good tank... or someone who just rushes in and doesnt know "DO NOT GO THERE" means...

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

A bad player is someone who says 'afk for a few', then quietly goes and burns their neighbours house down and kills their dog, then comes back without even flinching.

Very bad person.

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

darn you catched me? :S

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleikki
darn you catched me? :S
Yeah, I was the guy on the sidewalk who sold you the gasoline.
I kinda stayed on the sidewalk and saw the whole thing.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by afrika18
I won't even accept an assassin if that is all that is available. When ever that happens I just log off.
Putting all the sin bashing aside - this explains you can't even H/H stuff.

What is a bad player? afrika18.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Today I googled "bad player" and it linked me to afrika18's profile on guru.
Coincidence? I think not!

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

A bad player is someone who is bad. This will be immediately apparent to those who are not bad, and maybe not to those who are.

Doesn't get any simpler than that, really.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Bad player aka ~99% of PUG players in GW:

- Brings a crappy, totally useless skillbar with him, often insanely crappy and useless
- Has crap armor, weapons. Has no runes, no insignias. Has weapons that are totally inappropriate for his class.
- Has attributes that are specced in a way that is totally inappropriate for his class
- Never pulls, probably doesn't even have a bow
- Doesn't know how to avoid aggroing multiple mobs at the same
- Doesn't know to run away from an un-winnable engagement that is sure to result in the death of every party member who doesn't run away (this usually occurs due to the aforementioned multiple aggroing by very same bad player)
- If monk, doesn't bother to heal vital NPCs who's death results in insta-failure
- Aggroes enemies onto vital NPCs, which results in insta-failure
- Ragequits at the first time he or anyone in the party dies, even though his or their deaths is/are entirely the result of his own terrible playing
- Goes AFK in the middle of the game

Ouchie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

[Leet]

R/

A bad player will always be

everyone but you............

Squishy ftw

Squishy ftw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Your backline

W/

A bad player ?

Someone that thinks he's good, and stops trying to improve.

Trelliz

Trelliz

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by afrika18
I don't care what kind of armor an assassin has....they could be encased in marble and be invincible and do 1,000,000,000 dps.....if they are assassin, they don't get into my party because assassins suck. I won't even accept an assassin if that is all that is available. When ever that happens I just log off. I don't even talk to assassins because anyone who plays one must be a real loser in real life too.

I wouldn't even accept an assassin in my party if I were PAID in REAL CASH to do it. Not for any amount of money...to do so would engender being called a n00b.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faure
You do know noob is slang for newbie?

# (link / top) Short form of newbie, someone who is new to RPGs. Also written as “n00b.”
www.treasuretables.org/rpg-glossary

# Newbie. Someone new to a computer related topic.
linux.about.com/od/quake_games/a/hwtqwk09t08.htm

# A person new to a concept or game. This is often used in chat as an insult against other players in a game (ex: "You're such a fracking NOOB"), but can be used in the gentler form to relay your inexperience (ex: "Hi, I'm sorry, but I'ma newbie at this. Can you please help me?")
tech-terms.com/index.php

# The word newbie is used mostly in Internet gaming culture. Its definition is to be new to something, mainly video games or an internet service. There are variant spellings, such as newb, n00b, nob, noob and nub, although noob is sometimes used as another definition.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noob
I don't care what Wikipedia and various websites say; gaming says that a Noob is a person who deliberately plays badly or causes grief and a Newbie is someone who is new.

Also, another example of a bad player is one who insists on using their favourite build when another build would be better for the task and so worsens the experience for everyone.