Runescape has a better economy then GW, how come?

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ty3c
Wilds Pathfinder
#121
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Originally Posted by fanatic 's faith
It's a fact that this f2p game has a better economy then guildwars ATM.
I've been wonering how this comes, is it because of customizing armor?
I think theres really something going wrong with GW economy, share your toughts about this.
Sorry for my bad grammar.
NO, not anymore, runescape has capped rares and limited the GP paying, so the rares are crashing and ive already lost over 40 million...........

GW is ALOT better, at least when they put a limit of 100k we still have ectos
Dylananimus
Dylananimus
Lion's Arch Merchant
#122
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Originally Posted by Tiny Killer
If the economy is so bad, I wonder why I never run out of money. I spend what I have rather freely and there always seems to be more of it available. If having the money to always get what I need is the result of a poor economy, I am in full favor of a poor economy.
Me too

This 'bad economy' keeps me in nice fancy armor quite effectively, thankyouverymuch
NeHoMaR
NeHoMaR
Desert Nomad
#123
Both Runescape and WoW have skills (professions) for make things and sell it: Crafting, Mining, Fishing, whatever ... both are very deep in that part, people should make things, not just NPCs selling everything. Lineage II too, it have crafted things, recipes, soul something (dont remember), etc., NOT availabe in ANY store in game, no NPC sell that, that's the trick.

In GW the only you need is Gold, and go and buy everything in NPCs with everything always available there, like black dyes, ectos, blah, blah ... no one craft that things in GW, there are no auction/trade house because there are nothing to sell, greens are nothing and as I said, materials are sold in NPCs, and if this is not enough, expensive things like FoW armor and Chaos gloves are 100% the same as 1k armors, no real bonus at all.

GW is good, really good, but in this part, economy, buying, selling, is very simplistic and casual.

ArenaNet if you are reading this (you should), in GW2, add Armors, Weapons, NOT available in NPCs at all, not even available as drops, that at the same time needs materials NOT available in NPCs at all neither, only a PLAYER can make it and sell it, via Auction/Trade House or just making a personal store (sitting) like Lineage II and buy/sell EXCLUSIVE things.
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DarkFlame
Desert Nomad
#124
RS is crap on a stick. Even if its economy is better then GW(which I doubt), its still crap on a stick and you couldn't pay me enough to touch it.

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Originally Posted by fanatic 's faith
Weapons should become rarer, Money should become easilyer made.
What exactly does this accomplish? Decrease the supply while devauling the currency? That means pretty soon you'll have to pay 100k + xectos just to get a non-max white.

*Off-topic 15 hours and 7 pages later, and not a single cat pic. Thats kind of a record no?
{IceFire}
{IceFire}
Forge Runner
#125
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Originally Posted by CyberNigma
EDIT: In fact, you can download America's Army without payment.
Do you pay taxes?
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Musei Karasu
Lion's Arch Merchant
#126
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Originally Posted by Shuuda
I find it pathetic how people judge the game on it's economy so much. Does it really matter that much? (well yes if your one of them "I like to have moar monay than evey1 else" types.)
A good economy is a sign of a good game. If the economy crashes because there are no new players moving up to take the spot of the old players who are leaving then the game is not drawing enough new players therefore dieing. So yes, it does matter.
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bam23
Lion's Arch Merchant
#127
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Originally Posted by {IceFire}
Do you pay taxes?
America's Army is a completely free game. No payment whatsoever.
Nemesis of God
Nemesis of God
Lion's Arch Merchant
#128
...economy, economy, economy... *sigh*
NOTHING wrong at this second. Armbrace's price is dropping, meaning normal people can afford it. And I'm meaning by normal people these players, who play around 1-2 hours/day. And when someone cry that he/she can't afford Obsidian (FoW) armor...CRY MORE! Obsidian armors are most expensive thing in game, after mini-pets, what ones are only about 30-100/each.
Obsidian armour are for so said Elite, who aren't n00bs like these whiners.
If everyone could buy Obsidian armour, no one would buy it anymore.

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Originally Posted by fanatic 's faith
WRONG. The gw economy is like this. 0.01% (or less) can affort fow/... due to early start of playing/now powertrading because they have much mony.
some 50% has less then 50plat most of the time the other people can get much mony, but still won't be able to get anywhere near the 0.01% wich have stacks of ectos/armbraces/... Thats wrong.
0,01%...have you ever even played this game? I'm more than sure that over 30% of players (not characters) have 15k armors, maybe FoW too.

Due too early start...another big LOL. In Runescape (which is crap), people who started early gained items which cost hundred millions(Santa's hat, Party hat). So nothing wrong there, almost all games give at start to first players some extras.

And last LOL, stack of armbrace and stack of ectos...are they required for something? NO! Those who have stacks of armbraces are either hard-core players, or very lucky.


I repeat again. If all people would be rich, no one would be in.Paradox.
Stop crying.

Record?
Velise_Snowtorm
Velise_Snowtorm
Lion's Arch Merchant
#129
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Originally Posted by Tiny Killer
If the economy is so bad, I wonder why I never run out of money. I spend what I have rather freely and there always seems to be more of it available. If having the money to always get what I need is the result of a poor economy, I am in full favor of a poor economy.
I have to second this as well. I don't even think twice about making impulse buys when passing through Kamadan, and yet I still have more money than I'll ever use.

Most likely though, in all honesty, is because at this point in the game I have just about everything I want and need. The trinkets I buy now are just fun toys to supplement what I already have.
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MoriaOrc
Lion's Arch Merchant
#130
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Originally Posted by bam23
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Originally Posted by {IceFire}
Do you pay taxes?
America's Army is a completely free game. No payment whatsoever.
And yet somehow the developers still get paid... I wonder where that money comes from?
bathazard
bathazard
Krytan Explorer
#131
i think inscriptions was the downfall of the econemy. I hated them since they came out. i remember getting a req9 hand axe thats was 15^50 for the first time after farming sorrow's for ages and ages since i new they dropped there. then along cam inscriptions and bye bye value on my now 'Crap' weapon. weapons that a farmed in prophecies are worthless compared to the factions and nightfall weapons. And don't let me get started on Gwen.

Well i am, GweN affically stuffed us up big time mainly through Ursan. Though all these great amours' came out and now runes and items' go down to a rediculous price!

I personally am annoyed at the market ecomeny and am going as low as using greens after 3yrs of play ;( . i was never a 'Rich' player though i did get the rare drop, drop now and then.

Farming has also been stuffed up. ok there a lots of people who still farm, i might even get my monk another set of 55 amour. But what is the point unless u go ursanway what is noobish to me, and if you dicide to do any other form of farm you get no drops?

but why do we still argue about this? why is the econemy failing? i think it is because people are getting bored, bored of guildwars. how many people want to do the same mission's again and again?

See before some of the newer versions came out guildwars was a fun new game but now people who have been playing for awhile are only left with PvP to get some originality. Personally i don't HA im a hybrid player i don't do hardcore PvE or PvP though i like a little of both. And im not really getting the fufullment of Guildwars that i used to, its become another game.

Req7. lets talk about these. the only req7 ever got was a blue sephis axe(if that how you spell it) that was max damage +3 amour or something like that. I was in love with this weapon, but sold it for 75k or something rediculous, and now it would be worth less? why? because mainly inscriptions, this is how i will end this 'Reply' Inscriptions are a pain in the econemys' butt, they stuffed it up in my mind dissagree or agree? It was inscriptions to me.
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bam23
Lion's Arch Merchant
#132
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Originally Posted by MoriaOrc
And yet somehow the developers still get paid... I wonder where that money comes from?
I wouldn't know, but I never had to pay a cent.
Cacheelma
Cacheelma
Desert Nomad
#133
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Originally Posted by Musei Karasu
A good economy is a sign of a good game. If the economy crashes because there are no new players moving up to take the spot of the old players who are leaving then the game is not drawing enough new players therefore dieing. So yes, it does matter.
A good economy is a sign of a good game THAT NEEDS ECONOMY.

GW's gameplay NEVER EVER relies on the in-game economy. If GW's gameplay is based on economy like it is in WoW, the game would've died in 2005 due to lack of good trading system.
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phoo slaya
Academy Page
#134
the rs and gw economies are completely different. guild wars just has a much simpler economy, which means really really simple. and no, the grand exchange in rs actually made the economy a lot worse in my opinion, i dont play anymore, but i did check out the ge when it came out, convenient, but bad.
Snow Bunny
Snow Bunny
Alcoholic From Yale
#135
I enjoyed GW's economy when Fellblades, Stormbows, Mursaat Bows, Magmas Shields, Zodiac weapons, and Sephis Axes were the stuff to have.

Also, I am going here, but inscriptions seriously devalued item drops.

I can say with a great degree of certainty that +5e/15^50 Voltaic Spears would be immeasurably more valuable if they were auto-uninscribable.
zwei2stein
zwei2stein
Grotto Attendant
#136
While all this hate to inscribable items is understandable (instead of having to be lucky with req AND mod,) they need to exists to allow people access to well modded items.

Besides, it is GWs version of crafting: get skin, get mods, mod it up.

Maybe rare stuff should be uninscribable with common stuff inscribable. That would help a bit.

If you want to nitpick errors in itemization, it were greens which killed most of demand for mods and perfect golds. Hell, greens killed market for each other:

* Droknar's Maul
* Durgon's Maul
* Eldritch Maul
* Forgotten Hammer
* Havok's Maul
* Jormungand's Thunder
* Kanaxai's Mallet
* Vera

They all have same stats, they all offer best stats. Really, why would anyone ever buy gold item to mod and use?

Greens are blessing and curse here: Easy access to stats, but maybe too easy. Somehow i liked quirky greens of Sorrows furnace with one odd mod that made you go out and look for gold item to replace it but which didn't really hurt their usability or tradeability.
NeHoMaR
NeHoMaR
Desert Nomad
#137
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Originally Posted by Cacheelma
A good economy is a sign of a good game THAT NEEDS ECONOMY.

GW's gameplay NEVER EVER relies on the in-game economy. If GW's gameplay is based on economy like it is in WoW, the game would've died in 2005 due to lack of good trading system.
That was the very first idea of GW as a casual game, but it turned into a hardcore one with time, I mean some people play this game thousands of hours, that is not "casual"; this game needs an economy today, not in 2005. ArenaNet already know this, so GW2 will be some type of "World of Guild Wars" or something, that isn't bad anyway, specially if they continue with the philosophy of fast jump into PvP with top level character, and somethings like that making the game casual and hardcore at the same time.
maraxusofk
maraxusofk
Desert Nomad
#138
im just ur typical poor gw player



the economy doesnt affect me one bit cuz i play for fun.
Cacheelma
Cacheelma
Desert Nomad
#139
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Originally Posted by maraxusofk
im just ur typical poor gw player



the economy doesnt affect me one bit cuz i play for fun.
I feel sorry for you. My heroes won't even touch those stuff. They're allergic to cheap items you see.

garethporlest18
garethporlest18
Forge Runner
#140
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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
I enjoyed GW's economy when Fellblades, Stormbows, Mursaat Bows, Magmas Shields, Zodiac weapons, and Sephis Axes were the stuff to have.

Also, I am going here, but inscriptions seriously devalued item drops.

I can say with a great degree of certainty that +5e/15^50 Voltaic Spears would be immeasurably more valuable if they were auto-uninscribable.
I agree with that one, minus the silly font. Give me 06 before Factions and Sup Absorption rune nerf back. I was rakin in the money then because weapons and mods were worth something! Oh well.

Inscribable items lets me get an item I want right away, so I suppose that's good but yeah certainly borked people who want to make money w/o working hard.