Solo 4-Part UW Build
thebullion24k
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Originally Posted by Trader of Secrets
I cleared the bone guys, no ecto. Have never tried dryders in pool.
Bone pits drop ectos, and so do the dryders...
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ecto
Use this for reference.
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ecto
Use this for reference.
Trader of Secrets
Yeah I know they do. Just saying that it isnt worth going to bone pits, better off starting another run.
Th Fooster
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Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte
You can always outrun them with a speedboost 
My guide on terra tanks has jsut been updated with videos that show the route up the mountain and how to beat them.
in one vid, i was forced to turn and fight as the other guy folowing me got crippled and would have died. but i clearly made it away in time.
My guide on terra tanks has jsut been updated with videos that show the route up the mountain and how to beat them.in one vid, i was forced to turn and fight as the other guy folowing me got crippled and would have died. but i clearly made it away in time.
luwe80
awesome guide!
/bow
/bow
Transluecent51
Anyone notice a huge difference in drop rate all usudden? Did 4 runs earlier, 2 runs with 2 ectos each then 2 full chaos plaines clears with not one ecto drop. Just wondering if it's the weekend maybe, overall drop rates or just my bad luck.
Within Power
So, overall i think this is a great build, and i have to say it works and it works great..
I spent around 40k getting all the equipment, needed a Elite tome and all, ive been able to solo the labyrinth and the Ice Wastes but when i come running to the Chaos plains i dont make it , i dont mean i die trying to get there, what i mean is i survive until the very end (that is if i get hit by traps) and the patrol will be camping at the chaos plains. I read residents idea and am about to try it now, and speed? i dont understand how u can run there when u haveto recast Sfa every 15 seconds, though the build is great
If you can like i dunno lol give me some tips or sumin to help me get there will help loads.
Lost 80k so far T_T
Thx Donut, i got to the chaos plains for the first time not casting stone saved alot of time
I spent around 40k getting all the equipment, needed a Elite tome and all, ive been able to solo the labyrinth and the Ice Wastes but when i come running to the Chaos plains i dont make it , i dont mean i die trying to get there, what i mean is i survive until the very end (that is if i get hit by traps) and the patrol will be camping at the chaos plains. I read residents idea and am about to try it now, and speed? i dont understand how u can run there when u haveto recast Sfa every 15 seconds, though the build is great
If you can like i dunno lol give me some tips or sumin to help me get there will help loads.
Lost 80k so far T_T
Thx Donut, i got to the chaos plains for the first time not casting stone saved alot of time
Scarn
You don't have to recast Stoneflesh. All you have to do is dodge the few random behemoth attacks. FDH isn't necessary for the run, but it makes it quicker.
speedy21589
been having some fun with this build lately, thanks a lot! just wondering, what aggro routes people have been using in the chaos planes to pull larger mobs?
Bo Fairfield
Those are my usual aggro paths. if something is X.5, that means I aggro the BDR while killing waves of mindblades from BDR #X. The BDR in the top right which I didn't number sometimes gets aggroed with #1, but if it's far away/I don't feel like walking to it under OF, then I just leave it. With these aggros, and killing the first 8 terrorwebs in Spawning Pools, I have a 35 minute run on average.
EDIT: sorry for the tiny fonts, paint=fail
joshuarodger
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Originally Posted by Transluecent51
Anyone notice a huge difference in drop rate all usudden? Did 4 runs earlier, 2 runs with 2 ectos each then 2 full chaos plaines clears with not one ecto drop. Just wondering if it's the weekend maybe, overall drop rates or just my bad luck.
i don't think i've ever cleard the planes and gotten less than 3 ectos. of course the most i've ever gotten is 8. don't know what kind of luck others have to be getting 11. must be nice.
Within Power
So far im succeeding in every 1 in 10 runs lol
I cant get past the labyrinth, imo labyrinth hardest part
Run in , nights rend everything gets me, and if some run back 1 aatxe comes and i get hit once before i hide behind benton, surviving at about 12hp the night finishes me off.
That or bodyblocks on the way to the ice wastes colds, the run to chaos is no problem, if only i could kill the grasps =S, frustrated and pissed when its so easy..
Cleared Chaos once, tho thought id get sumin like 6 ectos cuase of my first time, instead i got 1 >>
I cant get past the labyrinth, imo labyrinth hardest part
Run in , nights rend everything gets me, and if some run back 1 aatxe comes and i get hit once before i hide behind benton, surviving at about 12hp the night finishes me off.
That or bodyblocks on the way to the ice wastes colds, the run to chaos is no problem, if only i could kill the grasps =S, frustrated and pissed when its so easy..
Cleared Chaos once, tho thought id get sumin like 6 ectos cuase of my first time, instead i got 1 >>
Trader of Secrets
Noticing my average drop is lower too, went from like 5 minimum to now 1-2. Mayb its cuz i only use this char to farm this one spot.
Transluecent51
Yeah the rates have seemed extremly low. 2 days ago I was getting 6-8. Maybe Anet pulled out the nerf bat behind the scenes since they do love to do that.
MisterT69
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Originally Posted by Transluecent51
Yeah the rates have seemed extremly low. 2 days ago I was getting 6-8. Maybe Anet pulled out the nerf bat behind the scenes since they do love to do that.
I think it may be possible. I cleared bone pits and chaos plains, only 2 ecto (WTF!!!!!) they prolly took a big swing at those spectres and knocked all the ecto out of em like a pinata.
Transluecent51
Yeah it seems like it, just waiting to see how many others are getting reduced rates.
Yobs
Haven't run it this weekend (double AB faction ).
I usually do the spawning pools cause im cheap and have spent the 1k to get there. The best ecto rates are from mindblades (I had 6 drop in one run last week) and the fastest farm if your good at running to the plains is probably mindblades and the first group of terrorwebs alone. However if your crazy like me and like the adrenaline from killing that annoying blackness that just hangs around until your ward is nearly gone and sliver is finished then runs in with shock and whirlwind while your at low health then the pools is for you. Ecto is very variable but I think the best I have gotten is 3 and normally 1-2 for a complete clear. Complete clear takes 20-30 mins depending on blackness.
Even as cheap as I am I have given up on the bone pits. Easy but slow and crappy ecto rate.
If your having troubles in the Labrynth use HERO's..gee the 20th time people have mentioned this. Atm I am using a monk (WoH and Prot spirit), ele (Star Burst or searing flames) and Ebon Dust Aura derv which seems to work out well. Just keep prot spirit on the EDA Derv and call aataxes if they come down so she attacks it...also stop BEFORE the hero's so you get the rend if a DN pops up and drags his friendly aataxe with him. Then enjoy the Prot spirit micro fun. Also wand the DN to death as if it rends EDA your all dead. Not as fast as a healer and 2 ele's but safer unless Melloni gets stuck behind an npc =/.
Yobs
).I usually do the spawning pools cause im cheap and have spent the 1k to get there
. The best ecto rates are from mindblades (I had 6 drop in one run last week) and the fastest farm if your good at running to the plains is probably mindblades and the first group of terrorwebs alone. However if your crazy like me and like the adrenaline from killing that annoying blackness that just hangs around until your ward is nearly gone and sliver is finished then runs in with shock and whirlwind while your at low health then the pools is for you. Ecto is very variable but I think the best I have gotten is 3 and normally 1-2 for a complete clear. Complete clear takes 20-30 mins depending on blackness.Even as cheap as I am I have given up on the bone pits. Easy but slow and crappy ecto rate.
If your having troubles in the Labrynth use HERO's..gee the 20th time people have mentioned this. Atm I am using a monk (WoH and Prot spirit), ele (Star Burst or searing flames) and Ebon Dust Aura derv which seems to work out well. Just keep prot spirit on the EDA Derv and call aataxes if they come down so she attacks it...also stop BEFORE the hero's so you get the rend if a DN pops up and drags his friendly aataxe with him. Then enjoy the Prot spirit micro fun. Also wand the DN to death as if it rends EDA your all dead. Not as fast as a healer and 2 ele's but safer unless Melloni gets stuck behind an npc =/.
Yobs
sinusoid
I also think that it may be possible that the drop rates got nerfed a little bit. I used to get 4-6 ectos per chaos planes run, but lately I've been getting 2-3 although it might just be variable since I got a nice 5 ecto run today.
joshuarodger
i think you guys may just be overfarming the area or trying too many times consecutively. i had my best run yet on saturday. 9 ectos. i was pretty pleased. however, my worst run came sunday. full chaos clear only 1 ecto. i read something somewhere about drop rates decreasing when you enter and exit a zone repeatedly in a certain time frame. it just so happens that my run on saturday was my first attempt that day. and my run sunday was my 5th attempt-1 stupid time i didn't use any speed boost in chamber, 1 time i stupidly targeted a bladed somehow and cast meteor shower on him, 1 bad behemoth spawn at entrance to mountains and one bad behemoth spawn at entrance to planes. i mean i have no other evidence to prove this, but it makes me comfortable to believe this, so i will.
Trader of Secrets
Yea, it is probably the fabled "anti-farm code". I suggest go do something like a mission/quest for a while with the ele then come back.
Washi
Yeah it's the dreaded "coooooode". I know a secret combination of emotes that make the cooooode go away. Seriously... 
Transluecent51
I had bad runs and didnt repeat in succession to really qualify for the anti farm code. Did mine probably 20 mins apart. Went to GH, stuff like that. Still bad runs. No ecto runs tho...seems I'm the only to manage that so far?
Yobs
Well I did one run last night for 10 ecto ...plains and pools. Ele hasn't been anywhere else for a while but I did spend all weekend in Alliance Battles and not farming. maybe that has something to do with it?
Also remember its all just random so there will always be no ecto runs and nothing to say they will not be consecutive. Dumb luck plays the biggest role.
Yobs
...plains and pools. Ele hasn't been anywhere else for a while but I did spend all weekend in Alliance Battles and not farming. maybe that has something to do with it?Also remember its all just random so there will always be no ecto runs and nothing to say they will not be consecutive. Dumb luck plays the biggest role.
Yobs
NeHoMaR
Aatxes are the reason I don't farm ectos 
I hate that bitches! plus 1k entrance.
I hate that bitches! plus 1k entrance.
Mr.Kotte
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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
Aatxes are the reason I don't farm ectos I hate that bitches! plus 1k entrance.
Easily avoidable, either with heros or run skill
I hate that bitches! plus 1k entrance.
Easily avoidable, either with heros or run skill
Trader of Secrets
True that. If you are scared to farm ectos just because a slow moving cow that gives up easily is along the path, you are missing out.
Abedeus
And since there are some builds that can farm them AND smites, use them! Because, like, Aatxes have 4% chance to drop ecto. 4 times more than smites ;d And are easier to kill thx to no self-heal.
Jhadur
Been trying this today and have yet to reach the chaos plains
Twice on the trot was blocked at entrance to mountains also had AAtxe not breaking agro and a random charged blackness in the middle of the mountains all by himself.
I'll try this again tomorrow
Twice on the trot was blocked at entrance to mountains also had AAtxe not breaking agro and a random charged blackness in the middle of the mountains all by himself.
I'll try this again tomorrow
Transluecent51
Apparently no nerf then. I blame my horrid luck. Thankz for the feedback peeps.
Within Power
The so called "Farm Code" i believe is also known as Loot scaling, and if it is loot scaling then Ecto has nothing to do with it, ecto was remvoed from loot scaling long ago, i dont know if its luck but i done 1 run cleared chaos plains and got 1 ecto, i done a run after and i got 4 ecto a ruby saphire and a white dye. and then the next run i got 2, its completely unpredictable in my case, regardless i always get more then 1 ecto in my runs.
Some of us dont have nightfall, or heroes!
Some of us dont have nightfall, or heroes!
ejp
What is the most up-to-date build for this i will be using cupcakes and heros so no GoC and no FDH
thebullion24k
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Originally Posted by ejp
What is the most up-to-date build for this i will be using cupcakes and heros so no GoC and no FDH
You can do what I do and use a celerity and a cupcake (I make so much more profit so I could care less).
In return I use lava font and aftershock instead of FDH and GoS...
I use lava font to kill the mind blades and aftershock for an explosive spike for the dreams and graspings...
With this, I can clear chambers and plains in roughly 25 minutes... But that's mainly because I sometimes pull 4 dreams, but most of the time it's 3.
In return I use lava font and aftershock instead of FDH and GoS...
I use lava font to kill the mind blades and aftershock for an explosive spike for the dreams and graspings...
With this, I can clear chambers and plains in roughly 25 minutes... But that's mainly because I sometimes pull 4 dreams, but most of the time it's 3.
Lawliet Kira
DOes this still work with the FDH nerf
ejp
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Originally Posted by thebullion24k
You can do what I do and use a celerity and a cupcake (I make so much more profit so I could care less).
In return I use lava font and aftershock instead of FDH and GoS...
I use lava font to kill the mind blades and aftershock for an explosive spike for the dreams and graspings...
With this, I can clear chambers and plains in roughly 25 minutes... But that's mainly because I sometimes pull 4 dreams, but most of the time it's 3. doable w/o essence and can u post a ss or put it in code on forums im a visual type of guy
In return I use lava font and aftershock instead of FDH and GoS...
I use lava font to kill the mind blades and aftershock for an explosive spike for the dreams and graspings...
With this, I can clear chambers and plains in roughly 25 minutes... But that's mainly because I sometimes pull 4 dreams, but most of the time it's 3. doable w/o essence and can u post a ss or put it in code on forums im a visual type of guy
MisterT69
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Originally Posted by Avatar The Element
DOes this still work with the FDH nerf
You don't even need to put [flame djinn's haste] in your bar anymore, just bring a cupcake for the speed boost. This allows you to add more damage, most popular (and powerful) imo is [lava font] and its the 4 sec recharge that makes this such a useful spell
ejp
i have now wasted about 20k and been unable to make it to the 1st group of obsidians can someone who takes the left path w/ heros show me?
Yobs
You leave the hero's flagged in the chamber, they don't come with you as it looks like your taking them in your post. I guess you could take them to kill the aatxe and 3 grasps you run past but why bother? Basically you have to watch the aatxe and grasping patrols (look right and press control key to see who is who on your minimap) in the large room you run through and when its clear (just after the 2 aatxe leave the tunnel to this room is a decent run time for smites) get your running shoes on and go fast.
Or how about spending a few minutes after killing the grasps in the chamber just watching the aataxe and grasp patrol in the adjacent room and learning their pattern and then calculating when would be the best time to run...there is a HUGE window for you to run through unscathed. This would be faster than posting here as well....do people not look at these things...obviously not? You only have to avoid the grasps (don't even need to dodge these if using a cupcake or run stance) and not get caught by aatxe in the tunnel, they are easily run around out in the open.
Yobs
Or how about spending a few minutes after killing the grasps in the chamber just watching the aataxe and grasp patrol in the adjacent room and learning their pattern and then calculating when would be the best time to run...there is a HUGE window for you to run through unscathed. This would be faster than posting here as well....do people not look at these things...obviously not? You only have to avoid the grasps (don't even need to dodge these if using a cupcake or run stance) and not get caught by aatxe in the tunnel, they are easily run around out in the open.
Yobs
Washi
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Originally Posted by ejp
i have now wasted about 20k and been unable to make it to the 1st group of obsidians can someone who takes the left path w/ heros show me?
The question is why would you take the left path? Go right.
Master Mayhem
I wasted 15k on running to chaos and getting used to it.
One my first proper run i got 4 ectos, today i did half a run and got 4 ectos + 1black dye. My runs average around 40mins.
Gonna do more after my exams
One my first proper run i got 4 ectos, today i did half a run and got 4 ectos + 1black dye. My runs average around 40mins.
Gonna do more after my exams
joshuarodger
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Originally Posted by ejp
i have now wasted about 20k and been unable to make it to the 1st group of obsidians can someone who takes the left path w/ heros show me?
i easily wasted 25-30k before i was able to clear the chamber, then get the run through the mountains down, then get the skill timing down in the chaos planes, then get the proper aggro time for a decent time to clear the planes. this was all before the video in the OP was posted too. watch the video and do almost exactly what he does. pay attention to patrols in the room across the lake from the first chamber (where you kill grasps). when the coast is clear, just go and don't stop until you have to wait for the blacknesses at the entrance to the mountains. if you do aggro the group of grasps, they will break aggro when you reach the "safe spot" as long as you didn't stop running. then all you have to hope for is no bad behemoth spawns in the mountains. then you're almost guaranteed 3 ectos, in my experience. i now have over 500k in storage and 27 ectos, which i haven't gotten around to selling yet.
fushichou
Bah, not only was I barely getting to grips with this build, by the time it starts working for me, GoC gets nerfed permanently to 1 spell. Now what?