Solo 4-Part UW Build
MisterT69
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Originally Posted by Washi
No, you can't keep OF permanently without GOS.
Except with essence, but it's not worth it for 1 run in UW.
Trader of Secrets
If you cant get GoS, essence is totally worth it as long as u dont screw up a lot trying to get there.
spun ducky
I know not everyone has an elementalist so heres a ranger variation that takes essence of celerity to work but it is most certainly worth it because of drops since the run there is easier as well. The norn skill also makes the charged blackness a complete non issue to your casting chain in the spawning pools since they cant knock you down.
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12 EARTH
10 FIRE
12 WILDERNESS SURVIVAL(HAT + SUPERIOR RUNE)
Max Norn Title makes you immune to knockdown/cripple with essence of celerity keeping the recharge down along with more armor for the mountain run.
[skill]Obsidian Flesh[/skill],[skill]Glyph of swiftness[/skill],[skill]stoneflesh aura[/skill],[skill]sliver armor[/skill],[skill]lava font[/skill],[skill]"I am unstoppable!"[/skill],[skill]storm chaser[/skill],[skill]stone striker[/skill]
This isn't anything all that new but I have played the role of a terra tank in uw clearing teams with this as well as this farm which is the main purpose. I also use heroes to clear the grasping darkness at the start.
ATTRIBUTES:
12 EARTH
10 FIRE
12 WILDERNESS SURVIVAL(HAT + SUPERIOR RUNE)
Max Norn Title makes you immune to knockdown/cripple with essence of celerity keeping the recharge down along with more armor for the mountain run.
[skill]Obsidian Flesh[/skill],[skill]Glyph of swiftness[/skill],[skill]stoneflesh aura[/skill],[skill]sliver armor[/skill],[skill]lava font[/skill],[skill]"I am unstoppable!"[/skill],[skill]storm chaser[/skill],[skill]stone striker[/skill]
This isn't anything all that new but I have played the role of a terra tank in uw clearing teams with this as well as this farm which is the main purpose. I also use heroes to clear the grasping darkness at the start.
Trader of Secrets
Cool, never thought of that. You probably swap out GoS if u gonna use essence in that build.
Washi
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Originally Posted by Trader of Secrets
If you cant get GoS, essence is totally worth it as long as u dont screw up a lot trying to get there.
You missed the point where he said he cant get GoS cause he have no EoTN... So he would have to buy essence from players and that would be even more expensive.
snodaard
what's the avarage amount of ecto's on a chaos plains run? becouse i did it 3 times now and max i got was 2 ecto's..
Mr.Kotte
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Originally Posted by snodaard
what's the avarage amount of ecto's on a chaos plains run? becouse i did it 3 times now and max i got was 2 ecto's..
It used to be 6-11 (for me)
The ecto droprate have been decreased alot lately though, probably because everyone can do it now.
The ecto droprate have been decreased alot lately though, probably because everyone can do it now.
joshuarodger
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Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte
A Birthday Cupcake works just aswell and it only costs about 150-250g each 
no a b-day cupcake only helps with the run. celerity helps with cast time and recharge time. making it nearly impossible to forget to renew obs flesh. btw it costs 50 feathers and dust which kind of sucks but is worth it in my opinion.
no a b-day cupcake only helps with the run. celerity helps with cast time and recharge time. making it nearly impossible to forget to renew obs flesh. btw it costs 50 feathers and dust which kind of sucks but is worth it in my opinion.
MisterT69
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Originally Posted by joshuarodger
no a b-day cupcake only helps with the run. celerity helps with cast time and recharge time. making it nearly impossible to forget to renew obs flesh. btw it costs 50 feathers and dust which kind of sucks but is worth it in my opinion.
It's worth it if you're the kind of guy that sells their ecto after every run. 10 ectos in one run=48k easy, so you have more than enough to buy more celerity. Only prob is some people save their ecto, whether it be for gloves, armor, or weps, and it'll b a lot harder to keep buying celerity every run.
joshuarodger
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Originally Posted by MisterT69
It's worth it if you're the kind of guy that sells their ecto after every run. 10 ectos in one run=48k easy, so you have more than enough to buy more celerity. Only prob is some people save their ecto, whether it be for gloves, armor, or weps, and it'll b a lot harder to keep buying celerity every run.
that's a good point, and actually i'm farming ectos for a guildie who's working on FoW armor so i can usually afford a celerity after a run if i make it. the only thing that sucks is if you don't actually make it to the planes. there goes about 2k down the drain (including entrance fee)
It's A Me
i havent really seen a drop in ectos, 3 a run minimum is the usual for me, it obviously goes lower osmetimes but rarely. max ive ever gotten is 6.
Trader of Secrets
Same here. Averaging 4 ecto a run, a usual UW scroll or two, and maybe 1 gold item
Yobs
Drops about the same for me as well. Unusual to get lower than 3 ecto from Plains. From Plains + Pools I have gotten 11 before
Yobs
Yobs
Abonai Laguna
how do u do pools?
Washi
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Originally Posted by Abonai Laguna
how do u do pools?
try actually reading the whole thread before asking questions that were already answered?
Dragonsoulx4
I dont know if its my armor or my skills or something, but I just cant seem to get past the beginning. The part with the graspings... If possible can i tag along with someone, I would just die at the beginning and you can have all my drops. I will even pay entrance fee.. If possible please pm me at Chaos Slasher Max or Esoteric Emperor
Yobs
The graspings are killed by hero's not you if your going to run an optimised build.
You MUST have a speed boost on when pulling graspings (cupcake, SDH, FDH) AND flag your hero's to a corner away from where you are pulling from. Every now and then an aataxe will follow if a Dying nightmare pops up, this is bad luck. If you have a monk hero with prot spirit you can survive if your good at micro, if not you likely blew your 1k. btw this is why I don't use the necro/rit hero they blow up to aataxe. I often survive if only one comes down as I micro who the monk prot spirits. I also try to get the aataxe and graspings aggro on me on the dias and then don't move. I use 2 SF hero's.
Feel free to whisper me ign: Anopheles Yob if you want a tour although I play Australian pm hours which are not even close to US prime time.
Yobs
You MUST have a speed boost on when pulling graspings (cupcake, SDH, FDH) AND flag your hero's to a corner away from where you are pulling from. Every now and then an aataxe will follow if a Dying nightmare pops up, this is bad luck. If you have a monk hero with prot spirit you can survive if your good at micro, if not you likely blew your 1k. btw this is why I don't use the necro/rit hero they blow up to aataxe. I often survive if only one comes down as I micro who the monk prot spirits. I also try to get the aataxe and graspings aggro on me on the dias and then don't move. I use 2 SF hero's.
Feel free to whisper me ign: Anopheles Yob if you want a tour although I play Australian pm hours which are not even close to US prime time.
Yobs
Dragonsoulx4
hmm... I didnt know we had to use heroes to kill the graspings... Although i think i will take you up on your offer of the tour since i really have no clue what im doing at this point and probably have wasted over 15k doing this.
thebullion24k
Why do you have to use a melee weapon to run?
I'm guessing because what the BDR casts on you depends on what weapon you have?
I'm guessing because what the BDR casts on you depends on what weapon you have?
Washi
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Originally Posted by Dragonsoulx4
But if you insist on killing them by yourself I can show you. Spearmarshal Washi.
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Originally Posted by thebullion24k
Why do you have to use a melee weapon to run?
I'm guessing because what the BDR casts on you depends on what weapon you have? Why people don't read the topic and then ask the same questions over and over again? Behemots. MetalMan
I don't know if this has been answered, but sometimes on ym run through the mountains a blackness group reaches the gates to the plains before i do, rendering me unable to enter. Is there a way to circumnavigate these?
Thanks for any help 
Mr.Kotte
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Originally Posted by MetalMan
I don't know if this has been answered, but sometimes on ym run through the mountains a blackness group reaches the gates to the plains before i do, rendering me unable to enter. Is there a way to circumnavigate these?
You can always outrun them with a speedboost
MetalMan
Tried outrunning using FDH but shock stopped me and that was that...
Mr.Kotte
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Originally Posted by MetalMan
Tried outrunning using FDH but shock stopped me and that was that...
In that case you are way to close, they should be on the edge of your aggro radar.
MoreArrows
I made my pure ele farmer 2 weeks ago and i have the desire to do this but before i waste my cash (which i know i will :P) on uw fees are there any places you can practice this? I'm talking about mindblades mainly.
And also is there a map of the route from the labyrinth spawn point to the Chaos Plains?
Mr.Kotte
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Originally Posted by MoreArrows
I made my pure ele farmer 2 weeks ago and i have the desire to do this but before i waste my cash (which i know i will :P) on uw fees are there any places you can practice this? I'm talking about mindblades mainly.
And also is there a map of the route from the labyrinth spawn point to the Chaos Plains? 1. Try Perdition Rock or Titans. Both are good practice areas. 2. Check the first page
Trader of Secrets
When tanking mindblades just make sure you use GoS before each OF and maintain SF and OF. Use GoS for only OF. OF is priority over SF, so if they run out and recharge about the same time cast OF first. You can pretty much practice the tank in noobish areas like, fire imps out side LA, they shouldnt even land a spell on you.
MoreArrows
Ah right, okay. Thanks guys.
Oh and also... what is the best thing to do in case of a dying nightmare?
joshuarodger
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Originally Posted by MoreArrows
I made my pure ele farmer 2 weeks ago and i have the desire to do this but before i waste my cash (which i know i will :P) on uw fees are there any places you can practice this? I'm talking about mindblades mainly.
And also is there a map of the route from the labyrinth spawn point to the Chaos Plains? actually the best practice spot is the glacial stone farm with all the vaettirs. they're just about the same as the mindblades. if a nightmare pops on the run, just ignore it and keep running. there shouldn't be any that spawn once you reach the chaos planes. kicks66
Btw a tip for heroes at the start
I take an Nrt (Can be monk if you want), SF ele and then an Ineptitude/Clumsiness/Wandering eye mes. It does pretty decent damage by itself but also means any aatxes wont be much trouble.
Lhim
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Originally Posted by MetalMan
Tried outrunning using FDH but shock stopped me and that was that...
I always use [i am unstoppable], it makes the run a lot easier in case you set off some traps or aggro some charged blacknesses. It takes some timing to kill the charged blacknesses later on in the Spawning Pools though since you can't keep it up all the time like [ward of stability]. A higher Norn rank helps, I'm only r5.
joshuarodger
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Originally Posted by MoreArrows
I made my pure ele farmer 2 weeks ago and i have the desire to do this but before i waste my cash (which i know i will :P) on uw fees are there any places you can practice this? I'm talking about mindblades mainly.
And also is there a map of the route from the labyrinth spawn point to the Chaos Plains? there's a video in the original post and a map a few posts down from that. Trader of Secrets
For the running part I both FDH and SDH, therefore if a nightmare pops I can cast either and run.
Yobs
There is no way the charged blackness should be waiting for you if you run it properly, even without cupcakes. Perhaps if you get rended twice AND crippled twice. As others have said look closely at the video on page 2 or 3 or so of this thread it shows you everything you need to know in great detail. Even so I will explain as well as I can what you should be doing. Pay attention to whats moving on the minimap !! When you run over the bridge you should see 3-4 red dots moving up to the first obsidian behemoths at the start of the mountains. Stop in the little chamber there and remove balthazars, switch to you melee set and cast glyph (5air = 2 spells), Stoneflesh AND Flame djinn or storm djinn. Then run, don't worry the blackness will have run off before you get close. Also make sure no aataxe or grasps are going to be aggro'd. If a nightmare pops up just past the first obsidians (somewhat common) keep walking to the place you turn right which should be out of range of the first group of behemoths you ran past and either kill it (sometimes there are 2 there) or just recast your run skill (this is why you use the glyph) and get going. If no nightmare, you have the luxury of casting stoneflesh and your run skill here. Now it is easy to get to the little safe spot between the cliffs (see video for the correct route..its hard to describe but easy to see). Stop here and recast glyphed stoneflesh and your run skill and get going...never pause !! the only time you stop is to cast. Stoneflesh will run out just keep going and cast it and your run just before the last group and the entrance to the chaos plains. The blackness should be on your right side quite a ways away. Run to chaos and your done.
I am unstoppable helps, stormdjinn's helps as do essence or cupcakes of course. Actually with these you sometimes have to wait for the blackness to get out the way in the middle of the run. With a cupcake the only thing that should kill you is getting blocked by a bad spawn or a DN rending you just after you get crippled if its a really bad obsidian spawn. Basically spend the plat to learn the route and don't stop. Initially this was the hardest thing to get down, now it's easy once you know where to run and how to run AROUND behemoths...only ever get as close as you need to, LOOK AHEAD and always pick the side with the largest gap even if it means running right AROUND the mob of them. You will avoid getting crippled which will slow you down even more. Hmm sry its a little longer that I thought  Yobs
thebullion24k
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Originally Posted by Yobs
Basically spend the plat to learn the route and don't stop. Initially this was the hardest thing to get down, now it's easy once you know where to run and how to run AROUND behemoths...only ever get as close as you need to, LOOK AHEAD and always pick the side with the largest gap even if it means running right AROUND the mob of them. You will avoid getting crippled which will slow you down even more.
It's definitely a great investment...
Here's some screen shots of some bad times. http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9320/gw024vm4.jpg http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9020/gw025oi4.jpg Yes I use celerity and GoS, Gos is for MS mainly... With an essence I can finish main room, chaos plains (I skip smites, too annoying), and the first dryders in spawning pools at around 30-35 minutes~
Mr.Kotte
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Originally Posted by thebullion24k
It's definitely a great investment...
Here's some screen shots of some bad times. http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9320/gw024vm4.jpg http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9020/gw025oi4.jpg Yes I use celerity and GoS, Gos is for MS mainly... With an essence I can finish main room, chaos plains (I skip smites, too annoying), and the first dryders in spawning pools at around 30-35 minutes~ If you're going with Essence, there's no need for Glyph of Swiftness. I'd suggest you replace it with Ward of Stability then go for Spawning Pools too 
Resident
Well, they drop less stuff if they die at the same time. Let burning finish the job
thebullion24k
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Originally Posted by Resident
Well, they drop less stuff if they die at the same time. Let burning finish the job
I always do...And where are your sources for that first statement? XDeadboltX
With good ping, you can actually set off traps without being affected, just incase anybody ever needs to. Just thought Id throw it in there incase a situation arises where theres only a tiny gap to get through the behemoths.
Hows the ecto drop rate in the spawn pools and that other place? Trader of Secrets
I cleared the bone guys, no ecto. Have never tried dryders in pool.
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