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Citan Uzuki

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

You bedroom......O SHI

United Federation of Elites [UFoE]

R/

30 Jul 2008 at 07:31 - 241

Quote:

Originally Posted by MdoubleV

But why should you work so hard with a PvE character for it, iff you simply could make a PvP character and play with obsidian armor. It would make PvE not fun anymore.

...

About 90% of the PvP population will never get enough Reward Points for Obsidian Armor. You don't just make a PvP character and POOF! you have access to all the armors.

It takes a lot of skill to get enough RPs for Exotic Armor. It takes a lot of time and grinding to get enough money for High-End armor.

As many people have already said, "It balances out".

Chris37320

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Soldiers Of Shadowsssssssssssss (ssss)

Mo/

30 Jul 2008 at 08:44 - 242

/signed because people who make a ton of rps could just go buy the chaos gloves by selling z keys. It's not too tough to farm ectos with all those big buffs to the pve side of the game don't see why pve'ers think they deserve chaos gloves because they farm mindlessly for ectos. RPS doesn't come too fast for an average PvPer so I would imagine you would have to work hard for it.

D E C E P T I V E

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

30 Jul 2008 at 11:00 - 243

/signed conditionally

I think it would be great if these items could be unlocked for pvp players as long as they were unlocked by obtaining them on a pve character....so if you got it on one PvE character it would be unlocked for use with any of your PvP characters. All items and armors should be able to be unlocked in this way for use in PvP. Tourney reward points are okay for unlocking too as long as they are consistant with the amount of time people put into unlocking this stuff in PvE. Adding an unlock like I suggested just allows those that have actually earned the item in PvE not to have to earn it again in to use on a PvP character.

nix1016

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

30 Jul 2008 at 13:05 - 244

/signed along with making all the other pve skins available in pvp by unlocking with RPs pls... also would be great to be able to get BMP weapon skins on pvp chars too if you own BMP... though I doubt that would happen

Red Sand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

New England

Warriors of Wynd [WoW]

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30 Jul 2008 at 20:51 - 245

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Is Special

With your logic i should be able to get a gold trimmed cape doing things in PvE. It's just vanity, it doesn't give an advantage, I don't see what the problem would be. Rigghtt?

Honestly, it would not hurt my feelings in the slightest if PvErs could get a special trim cape to acknowledge the accomplishment of lack of a better example: Legendary Guardian. I'm good with it.

I hope that answers your question.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

30 Jul 2008 at 21:13 - 246

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Is Special

With your logic i should be able to get a gold trimmed cape doing things in PvE. It's just vanity, it doesn't give an advantage, I don't see what the problem would be. Rigghtt?

Tell me something in PvE that is just as difficult as winning a MAT? I certainly can't think of any. If you do find something, then I will gladly agree with this.

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

30 Jul 2008 at 21:24 - 247

Try and win a mAT. Is there anything as difficult in Guild Wars PvE as defeating a top guild in GVG?

Let KOABD have an /emote, I don't care.

Why do you care that PvPers can get high-end PvE skins?

The base PvP armor can be obtained in PvE, as can base PvE skins.

shinta_himura

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

D/

30 Jul 2008 at 21:33 - 248

Bonhart, pvp was never meant to be equal to PvE, that's why PvP characters get the 'J' item creation and account wide unlocks. I don't agree with PvP even having fancy skins to unlock. You get tormented weapons by delving into the Domain of Anguish and sticking it to the bad guys, not by handing points to a zaishen guy who magically makes these things appear.

PvP is for PvP, if you want anything else buy a campaign, get some motivation and welcome to Guild Wars.

EDIT: Ya, PvP is difficult, that's why you get cape trims, gladiator titles, golden Deer, Lions and Phoenixs oh my, etc. while PvErs and average PvPers DO NOT. High end weapons and armor are for everyone else.

PvP:
-Uber Leet flashy animals and fancy capes that outweigh the meaning of any 15k armor set.
-Press J for perfect gear, lol

PvE:
-fancy weapons and armor.
-buying skills and mods for EVERY character and piece of armor/weapons.

Frankly, PvPers have plenty of recognition and PvE doesn't have enough, now that everyone thinks high end armor = ursan ursan ursan!

Bottom line is you can't have everything. Just like how PvE can't have everything.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

30 Jul 2008 at 21:36 - 249

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinta_himura

Bonhart, pvp was never meant to be equal to PvE, that's why PvP characters get the 'J' item creation and account wide unlocks. I don't agree with PvP even having fancy skins to unlock. You get tormented weapons by delving into the Domain of Anguish and sticking it to the bad guys, not by handing points to a zaishen guy who magically makes these things appear.

PvP is for PvP, if you want anything else buy a campaign, get some motivation and welcome to Guild Wars.

You still fail to state, like anyone else who disagrees with this, how giving PvP players a chance to unlock PvE items hurts the game. The only reason you give is "Well, you should play PvE to get PvE items like I did", which really doesn't make any sense since almost every other PvE item is obtainable through PvP.

shinta_himura

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

D/

30 Jul 2008 at 22:09 - 250

Hurting the game? No. That's completely irrelevant and not a point of the original topic, and isn't required to disagree. I'm saying PvE is PvE and yeah, if you want PvE content you need to play PvE. That's how the game was designed and should stay. If i want /rank, than I need to PvP.

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

30 Jul 2008 at 22:11 - 251

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinta_himura

Hurting the game? No. That's completely irrelevant and not a point of the original topic, and isn't required to disagree. I'm saying PvE is PvE and yeah, if you want PvE content you need to play PvE. That's how the game was designed and should stay. If i want /rank, than I need to PvP.

Kurzick/Luxon title.

shinta_himura

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

D/

30 Jul 2008 at 22:35 - 252

What about it?? I was talking about bambi rank.

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

30 Jul 2008 at 22:38 - 253

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinta_himura

What about it?? I was talking about bambi rank.

I don't care.

The Kurzick/Luxon title is a PvP title obtainable by mindlessly grinding the same pve quests.

Chaos gloves are a pve item that should be obtainable by mindlessly grinding out the same PvP tournament.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

30 Jul 2008 at 22:38 - 254

In that case why don't you go make a thread petitioning the removal of PvE armoursets and weapons being obtainable in PvP?

shinta_himura

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

D/

30 Jul 2008 at 22:50 - 255

It's not exactly a pvp title then is it?

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

30 Jul 2008 at 22:54 - 256

Then make a petition to remove the ability to earn K/L in PvP!

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

30 Jul 2008 at 23:42 - 257

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinta_himura

What about it?? I was talking about bambi rank.

1 special gold emote shouldn't be something that raises this whole "BAWWW" stinkfest. It grants no bonus, and is kind of stupid, when it all boils down. BTW, No one is forcing you to get a bambi, it's just something you think would elevate your status in the game, and would probably end up showing off to all your friends in Kamadan. I /sign every God-forsaken "ZOMG GIVE KOABD AN EMOTE ELITIST PVPERZZZZZZ" thread that pops up on a weekly basis just so it may be possible for the PvE community to stop incessantly whining.

Go start a thread to remove all PvE-item rewards from PvP.

I Is Special

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

NJ

To Gain Extra Mobility We Play [NUDE]

W/

31 Jul 2008 at 04:36 - 258

Why are people talking about K/L titles?

And i don't play too much anymore, but since when are they PvP titles? I thought people considered AB and aspendwood PvE? The Fact that there is an entire campaign based around them must not affect that either. lewlz

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

31 Jul 2008 at 13:37 - 259

I believe the only reason people call it PvE is becasue players there are often as stupid as this game's AI. Logically, it is PvP.

Teutonic Paladin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

TW

W/

31 Jul 2008 at 14:46 - 260

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonhart

AN Don't push pvp players to play something they don't want to get something they want (

).

Is this a joke? What exactly was going through your head when you wrote this?

Lord Natural

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

Black Crescent [BC]

W/

31 Jul 2008 at 20:42 - 261

If you haven't been able to make your PvE char setup and look pretty in 3 years, quit the game. No excuses now, since z keys are a gold income for pvp'ers.

/notsigned

no talent

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Africa

Scions of Carver [SCAR]

E/Me

01 Aug 2008 at 00:44 - 262

/signed

...everyone should at least have a shot at looking half as sexy as my ele :P

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

02 Aug 2008 at 00:31 - 263

this is cool, but i would think that there would have to be an emote for pve players, or give us the PvP emote for our rank in the Kind of a Big Title Track.
There has to be trade-offs here and i get sick of seeing peeps on this forum whine about us PVE'ers not EVER having a chance to get their emotes. Why would we concede our luxuries to you then? If it's a give/take im all for it.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

02 Aug 2008 at 00:42 - 264

^

A two step guide to earning an emote:

Step one: Get 250k worth of Zaishen Keys. You can PvP for them, or PvE for them.
Step two: Go to Isle of the Nameless and press the space bar over and over.

There is your emote.

Or even go to HA, PuG Sway or get some mates and farm fame until rank three, there's an emote.

I Is Special

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

NJ

To Gain Extra Mobility We Play [NUDE]

W/

02 Aug 2008 at 01:51 - 265

^
To get chaos gloves...Play through GWEN and buy them.

Gogogo!

Freke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

N/A

D/

02 Aug 2008 at 01:59 - 266

PVP gets everything PVE gets now, and more! Ah, at long last, the tiny battle maps are better than an entire 3 continents worth of designed creation.

Wouldn't mind if theres something that's pve exclusive. (No, not pve skills, that's nothing. Something that you can actually show to be different) Like, the statue in your HoM pops up and is like
"I R FUL LIT, NUB"

then dissapears, I wouldn't mind having that. Even though mines not lit at all, that'd be hilarious.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

02 Aug 2008 at 02:08 - 267

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Is Special

^
To get chaos gloves...Play through GWEN and buy them.

Gogogo!

You mean like how I should have to play through Factions to get my 'Sin armour? Oh, I can get that through reward points.

Vanity isn't power. It's not like this directly harms anyone.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

02 Aug 2008 at 02:52 - 268

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Is Special

^
To get chaos gloves...Play through GWEN and buy them.

Gogogo!

Get Chaos Gloves --> Play PvE

Get a special emote --> Play PvP OR PvE (just because it's not an animal doesn't mean it's not cool enough)

Gogo logic rangers!

BirdMan33

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

vR

Mo/

11 Sep 2008 at 22:08 - 269

pvp chars dont get gwen items. is fair for pvp chars to get what they want for the right price.. i went through 2500 rps just to be able to have all armors unlocked (not including the armors i bought) if chaos gloves cost 300 rps that means they are really close to what chaos gloves cost in pve.

newbie_of_doom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

WTFPRIVACYDUDE

Endangered Feces [DoDo]

W/Mo

12 Sep 2008 at 08:12 - 270

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayson

Pvp players have no effect on pve play or the community. I say let them have whatever they want for thier toons. As a pve player I know for a fact that whatever they're doing isn't hurting me. Anet can just add all that extra stuff in for free for all I care.

Herd zkeys were actually worth money. Herd you get them in pvp.

stale

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

canada

Bong Wielding Maniacs

R/Mo

12 Sep 2008 at 18:24 - 271

you know what? let them have them - they're fugly anyway.

however, i want gold trim on my PvE guild's cape, for having gotten gwamm on my main.

sound fair? could care less if it is - that's my "I want it! I want it! I want it!" in response to the PvP "I want it! I want it!"

neither one of us will have done whats required to get what we want, but we'll both still have what we want.

BirdMan33

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

vR

Mo/

13 Sep 2008 at 16:45 - 272

pve people are so jelous. is funny

Nude Nira

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

inside a tanning bed

It's Raining Fame Hallelujah 【傘回傘】

Me/

13 Sep 2008 at 16:53 - 273

Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdMan33

pve people are so jelous. is funny

You missed the point of his statement, if you used your brain instead of just saying, "lulzzz silly pve uso jealous" then you'd realize what he was trying to say. PvE has things exclusive to PvE (chaos gloves etc) and PvP has things exclusive to PvP (trims, rank emote, etc.)

Oh, why should PvP get chaos gloves when they have some of the leetest skins, exclusive to PvP?

Quote:

Originally Posted by stale

you know what? let them have them - they're fugly anyway.

however, i want gold trim on my PvE guild's cape, for having gotten gwamm on my main.

sound fair? could care less if it is - that's my "I want it! I want it! I want it!" in response to the PvP "I want it! I want it!"

neither one of us will have done whats required to get what we want, but we'll both still have what we want.

My best guess is you stopped reading after line number two. You should read the last few lines, and actually think about it.

fireflyry

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

New Zealand

A/D

15 Sep 2008 at 02:02 - 274

/notsigned

Purely on principle.

If you want it, earn it.

If you disagree you obviously don't want it enough.

Taddayo Kun

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2008

in the land of no return, kinda like xth

[nerf]

A/

20 Sep 2008 at 21:39 - 275

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonhart

I'd like to propose a little update which would make pvp characters equal to pve ones.
AN let us (pvp plyers) have some wepons skins and armors for RP (tournament reward points). Anyways pvp characters still can't wear sunglasses, chaos gloves or blindfold. My proposition is to let pvp players have it for rp.
I think it's obvious that such things shouldn't be easy to get. I think that all of them should require fancy armor unlock or we can even make "Exotic Armors" which would be GWEN collector's items.

My idea of price list is simple: Chaos Gloves would cost 300rp and the rest of this GWEN colletor's items would cost 100 rp each except glasses which would be 50rp.

AN Don't push pvp players to play something they don't want to get something they want (

). Make it expansive, but possible to get for RP.

/Signed

Yennefer Mesmeriser

that's a stupid idea, if you want chaos gloves, work for them.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

20 Sep 2008 at 21:45 - 276

You will be working for Chaos Gloves if it does become available for PvP characters. Don't throw a post on something you have no clue on. If you want to know how they are earned, simply make a PvP character and try to get exotic gear right off the bat.

Oh, and I also agree PvP exclusive skins should also be available to PvE characters. It's only fair.

CE Devilman

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

hell

Do U Trust Anet

N/Mo

20 Sep 2008 at 22:36 - 277

/notsigned

Baku_The_Killer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

Spain

My heros are my own guild.

W/

20 Sep 2008 at 22:37 - 278

The time that you lose with that,you can use it to farm and get them.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

21 Sep 2008 at 08:17 - 279

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baku_The_Killer

The time that you lose with that,you can use it to farm and get them.

What?

I'm tempted to flame you here simply because you can also use the time you gather up reward points you'll probably have alot more PvE armoursets than the time you get the reward points you want.

Some people don't play PvE at all, or some people enjoy PvP more. And I can say that PvE right now is 90% boring.

brightblade13

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Vindictive Malevolence

Mo/N

11 Nov 2008 at 00:34 - 280

I like the idea of a balance between PvE and PvP cool items, but why not make PvP exclusive items as well. As a way to distinguish the two types by different common armor pieces. Give the PvP players something that the PvE players can't get. Make it interesting, give people a dilemma.

I do like the idea though. Give the people what they want.

/Signed