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pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

04 Jun 2008 at 12:41 - 201

since my previous post is deleted because the reason i give is deemed "unacceptable" i will give you a better one. and the answer is still a NOT SIGNED.

but I am will to give you an unless for the sake of money sink.

ONTOP of Reputation points ectos is a must. This is only fair since to get zaishen keys which is a title some of you consider to be a PvE title and yet we still need to farm it in PvP area, so to be fair, PvP character can get chaos Glove ONLY IF they also need to buy or farm for ectos.

so not signed until then.

Sai Rith

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/

04 Jun 2008 at 17:03 - 202

Quote:

Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

since my previous post is deleted because the reason i give is deemed "unacceptable" i will give you a better one. and the answer is still a NOT SIGNED.

but I am will to give you an unless for the sake of money sink.

ONTOP of Reputation points ectos is a must. This is only fair since to get zaishen keys which is a title some of you consider to be a PvE title and yet we still need to farm it in PvP area, so to be fair, PvP character can get chaos Glove ONLY IF they also need to buy or farm for ectos.

so not signed until then.

lol wut? This completly ruins the idea of having this anyway. If they have to farm for it, then might as well just not even introduce it as a pvP reward.

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

05 Jun 2008 at 15:19 - 203

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sai Rith

lol wut? This completly ruins the idea of having this anyway. If they have to farm for it, then might as well just not even introduce it as a pvP reward.

lol is correct, that's what Anet did to the "suppose to be PvE Emote" here you go PvE players: an emote for PvE players, but wait, you have to buy Zkeys from PvP players

, see cos its easy to get gold, so you go farm and give all your gold to PvP players, okay and we give you an Emote that BOTH PvP and PvE player can obtain. Another way to get is, play some easy PvP, but remember this is a PvE Emote.

beaverlegions

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Siege Turtles

R/

05 Jun 2008 at 18:05 - 204

To me pvp in gw is like ufos, hear weird ppl that spend hours in front of their comps talking about it, but never saw the point. But why should a net care if pvp player cant get all the stuff that ppl have to spend time farming for. Forcing pvp players to go do pve which isnt rly interesting anymore because of the overpowered build, is just plain stupid, noone in their right mind would do pve now unless to get titles for gw 2
/signed

Barrett

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

W/

11 Jun 2008 at 15:14 - 205

/Notsigned

theres already enought ppl running around looking like Graphical Errors

Lydz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

The Crazy Dragons [TCD]

E/Mo

11 Jun 2008 at 17:59 - 206

/signed

I don't see why PvP characters shouldn't be allowed some new PvE items.

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

11 Jun 2008 at 22:41 - 207

/not-signed

75 ectos is not much. Sell 75 Z-keys from your PvP experience and and do EOTH (takes 2 days at most) and you will have the required materials for the exchange.

So many QQ PvPers here.

Emotes in PvE won't happen, so .... screw that too.

BirdMan33

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

vR

Mo/

19 Jun 2008 at 05:51 - 208

PLZ i need chaos gloves for my pvp monk... have been saving up 1000 rps not buying keys just cause there was a rumor saying chaos gloves will be unlocked soon..

/signed 110%

Targren

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Primeval Warlords[wuw]

R/

19 Jun 2008 at 13:38 - 209

Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdMan33

PLZ i need chaos gloves for my pvp monk...

Correction: You WANT chaos gloves for your pvp monk.

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

19 Jun 2008 at 13:44 - 210

with the prices of ectos going down everybody will have chaos gloves pretty soon ^.~

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

19 Jun 2008 at 15:59 - 211

There was a great idea made of pure awesome, posted in this thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10297285
It also automatically fixes this issue with GW:EN armor pieces not available for PvP chars - it's about letting people use PvE characters for PvP as if they were PvP characters - the GW2 way!
So the only way to get Chaos Gloves is still crafting them for 75 ectos but you can then play the character just like you did with a PvP only one, thereby removing the need for having 2 separate characters of the same profession on 1 account.

Thizzle

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

20 Jun 2008 at 06:27 - 212

To even get to the good items you have to play well in GvG. Here's a little something to remember "The armors and weapons are character based. If you delete the character, the armor and weapons will be gone", after reading that I see unlocking any PvP armor pointless. The cose to get Obsidian armor is 200 per piece, you most likely would have to be amazing in GvG and doing it all the time with a expert guild. Anyone walking around with Obsidian on their PvP character should be really feel like they're accomplished.

/signed.

itsvictor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

20 Jun 2008 at 07:09 - 213

Quote:

Originally Posted by mage767

Emotes in PvE won't happen, so .... screw that too.

Zrank is a buyable title hello(unrealistic to max but hey think about the tiers for PvP titles)...
/signed for those who would actually be able to get it deserve it. It takes far more skill to play GvG enough to get 1000's of RP than grind UW for a few hours. Evident by the fact Anet already has added RP armors, there's almost nothing that is mutually exclusive to PvE than titles and those few items.

NYC Elite

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

A/

20 Jun 2008 at 14:36 - 214

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thizzle

To even get to the good items you have to play well in GvG. Here's a little something to remember "The armors and weapons are character based. If you delete the character, the armor and weapons will be gone", after reading that I see unlocking any PvP armor pointless. The cose to get Obsidian armor is 200 per piece, you most likely would have to be amazing in GvG and doing it all the time with a expert guild. Anyone walking around with Obsidian on their PvP character should be really feel like they're accomplished.

/signed.

OK, by that logic, then what is the point of making Chaos Gloves added to PvP? One, it's pointless to add more features to a flawed mechanic. People would much rather spend it on ZKeys for items, title, and money. Two, you're essentially telling me it'll be exclusive to GvG players because of insane RP costs. So why would it matter if it's given to ANY PvPer? Why not just give them as rewards for placing in Top X in tournies? Because that's all who'll get them. And if you observe matches more, pretty much everyone's running around with a variety of 15k armor, FoW, Chaos Gloves, and tormented equipment. So why even bother adding it to a flawed system where even if not as flawed as it is, would only "benefit" (using that term loosely) the high-end PvPers?

Thizzle

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

20 Jun 2008 at 16:07 - 215

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYC Elite

OK, by that logic, then what is the point of making Chaos Gloves added to PvP? One, it's pointless to add more features to a flawed mechanic. People would much rather spend it on ZKeys for items, title, and money. Two, you're essentially telling me it'll be exclusive to GvG players because of insane RP costs. So why would it matter if it's given to ANY PvPer? Why not just give them as rewards for placing in Top X in tournies? Because that's all who'll get them. And if you observe matches more, pretty much everyone's running around with a variety of 15k armor, FoW, Chaos Gloves, and tormented equipment. So why even bother adding it to a flawed system where even if not as flawed as it is, would only "benefit" (using that term loosely) the high-end PvPers?

If they earned them in PvP which no one will truly now and they probably made a PvE character and bought armor and weapons for that character with all the faction they had for z-keys. If the system worked correctly then yes it is pretty much exclusive to GvG players. I think it would be much more worth it if the equipment you bought was unlocked permanently for every profession when you bought. This could go for PvP or PvE, like when you buy in PvE you unlock for PvP use. You could only make it so buy in PvP unlock in PvP permanently.

Teh [prefession]-zorz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

wisconsin

Spiders Lair Kurz [SpL]

W/A

20 Jun 2008 at 16:20 - 216

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avoc

If Anet makes the /rank title track linked to the KoaBD title, then perhaps.

What a shitty comment.

anyways, /signed cause atleast you cant ebay R/P's

BirdMan33

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

vR

Mo/

20 Jun 2008 at 16:42 - 217

i think all the people that argue that chaos gloves should not be unlocked for pvp are just those pvers that spend hours on end farming. yeah if i sell my keys ill make enough money to buy my equipment over again. but that means i need to create a pve then walk it through the quests, buy skills, and stuff that takes time. rather then pvp if you do well in at or predictions you can have what armor you want. if you suck on the other hand. it takes time for you to unlock all the exotic items and fancy armor.

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

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20 Jun 2008 at 17:43 - 218

I'm still waiting for the GWEN armors/weapons to be added, let alone any of this ultra hard to get stuff. Pretty sure Anet doesn't give a rats ass, it's been months since they said they would be adding them to the tournament npc.

BirdMan33

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

vR

Mo/

26 Jun 2008 at 01:54 - 219

any word by an offiicial if this is discussed or considered as an option?

Captain Herbalife

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Central United States

The Lords of Doom [LOD]

W/Mo

26 Jun 2008 at 21:01 - 220

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divinus Stella

I don't agree, i think that if you want pve items you should play pve.

All I can say is Amen.

sunnyaeemi1

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2007

North Carolina

Planet Unicorn [Heyy]

E/

28 Jul 2008 at 12:39 - 221

why would anyone want chaos gloves anyway? they're a terrible skin. they make your toon look like they have a horrible hand disease. "hi. i was such a bad player that the monsters ate my hands off and now all i have are these ghost things where my hands used to be." no ty.

any pvper with terrible taste should be allowed to wear them.

tagMaverick

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2008

[BANG]

28 Jul 2008 at 16:12 - 222

I don't sign because there are So Many things that ANet needs to be focusing on. Like, last months monthly Disaster. Any word on that? Teams loading in with between 0 and 2 people? Good teams not even making it to the playoffs while Luck entirely decided it's champion? No, I think that the last thing anet needs to worry about is how pretty the pvp community looks.

If you want pve equiptment, PvE.
If you want Zaishen Keys, PvP.

It's not hard. There is exclusivity to each side, and it balances out. Not to mention there is no need for anyone to waste rps on skins when they can sell Z-Key gold for Real money.

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

R/

28 Jul 2008 at 16:21 - 223

Give them the freaking gloves, the PvP crowd is so small anyway it makes no difference to the game or the ecto market if the get them for free even.
Or better, make them pay 75 Z-Key's for the gloves.

/signed

Freke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

N/A

D/

28 Jul 2008 at 16:23 - 224

/unsigned...
and take out their elite armors, they were meant for pve players in the first place.

roshanabey2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

[lion]

N/Mo

28 Jul 2008 at 16:30 - 225

problem to this argument some pve players will never feel that they have something unique to themselves

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

28 Jul 2008 at 16:45 - 226

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freke

/unsigned...
and take out their elite armors, they were meant for pve players in the first place.

The majority of PvP'ers also started in PvE.

Nice reasoning there.

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

29 Jul 2008 at 05:22 - 227

/signed

I don't see how this harms poor wittle PvE players. The smart ones know that PvP > PvE in every way imaginable. So, definitely, share the love.

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

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29 Jul 2008 at 07:23 - 228

Sure. If ANet also gives PvE players a /rank emote, linked to KoaBD title track.

Also don't link it to tournament points but just put a crafter in a PvP outpost. THe required materials can be gathered with a PvE char or bought.

Tamuril elansar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

N/

29 Jul 2008 at 09:49 - 229

if you ignore evey pve players comment on /rank on KoabD this thread makes sense.

we pvp players should be able to get more things from R/P's, especially GW:EN stuff.

I Is Special

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

NJ

To Gain Extra Mobility We Play [NUDE]

W/

29 Jul 2008 at 15:35 - 230

I agree, PVP players should be able to get PVE-only items without any PVE What so ever. Makes sense dun it?

/sarcasm

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

29 Jul 2008 at 16:06 - 231

If it was available to PvP it wouldn't be PvE-only.

As for your own argument, why should PvP'ers get PvE gear from PvP'ing?! Infact, they should remove that!

Banane-O-Man

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

A/

29 Jul 2008 at 16:11 - 232

/unsigned

Show-offs, I hate that.

Red Sand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

New England

Warriors of Wynd [WoW]

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29 Jul 2008 at 21:48 - 233

The thing I don't understand with all of these "who should have what" threads is "Why does anyone care what the other people have access to?"

Many of you play in two different communities and rarely meet: How does giving a PvPer who only PvP's some Elite armor hurt the PvE community?

Look inside and ask yourselves why do you care if a PvPer can follow a seperate progression and get PvE items?

There is no game mechanical advantage to anyone to have any special gear. All reasons to have Elite items fall under two categories: One, you like how it looks, or two, you like from having something that you earned that someone else can't get easily.

Lets face it: it's all about boasting and bragging.

You're so vain. I bet you think this song is about you.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

30 Jul 2008 at 00:05 - 234

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banane-O-Man

/unsigned

Show-offs, I hate that.

/Signed.

People who think this is going to hurt them, I hate that.

Vanity gives no player strength benefit.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

30 Jul 2008 at 03:08 - 235

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Sand

Look inside and ask yourselves why do you care if a PvPer can follow a seperate progression and get PvE items?

Because the average exclusive PvE player that browses these forums thinks PvE is difficult and not just time consuming. Also they're concerned about their dicks.

around

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Aussie Trolling Crew - Diplomatic Embassy

I Have Three Pennies [Pnny] - forever in my heart <3

R/

30 Jul 2008 at 03:10 - 236

If ANet are going to go and allow PvP'ers access to PvE items through reward points then they should go the whole mile and allow everyitem in PvE to be bought in PvP using aforementioned RPs.

Not doing so is just silly.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

30 Jul 2008 at 03:34 - 237

Quote:

Originally Posted by around

If ANet are going to go and allow PvP'ers access to PvE items through reward points then they should go the whole mile and allow everyitem in PvE to be bought in PvP using aforementioned RPs.

Not doing so is just silly.

Add that with the fact it's a hell of a lot harder to unlock Exotic Weapons through RP's than to get 75 ecto.

I Is Special

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

NJ

To Gain Extra Mobility We Play [NUDE]

W/

30 Jul 2008 at 03:39 - 238

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Sand

There is no game mechanical advantage to anyone to have any special gear. All reasons to have Elite items fall under two categories: One, you like how it looks, or two, you like from having something that you earned that someone else can't get easily.

Lets face it: it's all about boasting and bragging.

With your logic i should be able to get a gold trimmed cape doing things in PvE. It's just vanity, it doesn't give an advantage, I don't see what the problem would be. Rigghtt?

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

30 Jul 2008 at 03:40 - 239

make eveyone don shing jea armor gg

endtrhead

around

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Aussie Trolling Crew - Diplomatic Embassy

I Have Three Pennies [Pnny] - forever in my heart <3

R/

30 Jul 2008 at 03:50 - 240

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Is Special

With your logic i should be able to get a gold trimmed cape doing things in PvE. It's just vanity, it doesn't give an advantage, I don't see what the problem would be. Rigghtt?

Ok, capes would be awarded once something of comparative difficulty to winning an mAT is found in PvE.

owait, there aren't any...