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Talarian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Ninth Legion [TNL]

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18 Mar 2008 at 15:14 - 161

Quote:

Originally Posted by I D E L E T E D I

its an american forum? where does it say that i must have missed it, thought it was international

It is international - east coast, central, and west coast

American xenophobia FTW! (But that's a different thread entirely)

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

18 Mar 2008 at 15:19 - 162

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talarian

It is international - east coast, central, and west coast

What about the bible-belt?

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

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18 Mar 2008 at 16:17 - 163

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

If you're going to make an argument with english speakers on an American forum, I'd hope I'd be able to understand you.

Can we have an official statment on this.
If it is an AMERICAN FORUM I will petition ANET to remove the "Elit Fansite" status.

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

18 Mar 2008 at 16:17 - 164

Quote:

Originally Posted by cataphract

What about the bible-belt?

I'm not entirely sure they have computers there.

In fact, sometimes I wonder if some of them have discovered fire yet...

Quote:

American xenophobia FTW! (But that's a different thread entirely)

Apparently it's American common sense this time. If you look up the IP in ARIN it's owned by Rackspace which is based out of California. More importantly, the board is in English, is dominated by English speakers, and has always been that way.

The de facto board language is English, and if people can't make themselves understood in that language, too bad. Until some other language dominates, it's just common sense that the communication should be done in English and that it's the typers responsibility to meet that standard.

Though I won't disagree that mocking people who at least make an honest attempt at that is pretty crummy. I prefer to stick to mocking the bozos who insist on typing things like they're texting on a cellphone.

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

18 Mar 2008 at 17:08 - 165

I love making these sort of comments. They get people so riled up!

English is spoken predominantly here, and Phoenix has on occassion demonstrated an ability to communicate in English, I'd hope he keeps it up if he wishes to argue.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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18 Mar 2008 at 17:13 - 166

Its not just de facto. The de juri board language is English.

It's right in the forum rules to keep posts in English. This is done so moderators can mointer the boards (ie, if somebody cusses you out and harasses you severely in... Czcheoslavakian, the moderators aren't going to know to delete those posts and ban the guy because they can't read it).

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

18 Mar 2008 at 17:17 - 167

I suppose the arguments boil down to this for me.

PvP gets the emote, PvE gets the armor. It's a good balance

yum

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

W/E

18 Mar 2008 at 17:29 - 168

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

I suppose the arguments boil down to this for me.

PvP gets the emote, PvE gets the armor. It's a good balance

HA gets emotes
GvG gets gold trims
....
TA gets gothspike.

stale

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

canada

Bong Wielding Maniacs

R/Mo

19 Mar 2008 at 14:59 - 169

ok, aside from the recent americanism - and really, shouldn't we be pushing English??? not American? sorry, one is a language, other is a bastardisation. of course, so long as we're not using "leetspeak" and the other blatant perversions of the language (kthxbai - anyone???) it should be all good - for someone who ISN'T fluent in english to even TRY deserves respect in my book.

but the whole rest of the thread has fallen into PvP vs. PvE idiocy. hell, 2/3 of the posts can be summed up as follows.

(the below are blatant stereotypes, and don't reflect MY opinions)

PvPer: PvE is talentless grinding noobishness... because we're the all-powerful-talented-ubergodz of gaming, we deserve all the PvE-only items just for existing.

PvEer: PvP is all about E-peen, elitism, and sexist jokes between acne ridden basement dwellers! screw-em, and make them PLAY THE GAME!!!

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now, i've stated before, that i do spend a great deal of time split between PvE and PvP (mostly TA/GvG and AB). PvP only toons, IMHO, don't deserve ANY of the special stuff - but that's because i'm one of a dying type - ALL my PvP chars (cept the monk) started life as a PvE char. worked through the game, unlocked anything i thought i'd need, and i go back for stuff i want.

now, were all folks to PvP in that way, the issue would never come up. andfor why i don't believe that a PvP only character deserves anything from the PvE goodies rack? you get an instant lvl 20 char, with access to all the skills (no tossing around a few hundred K to get all the skills)and quick and easy access to every mod in the game. and the price you pay for this convienience??? you're boring looking. sorry, but it's true!

now, to all of the PvE folks - chaos gloves are going to come to PvP only chars - it's just a matter of time, and you are NOT going to get anything to trade for them - no emote's for KoaBD, no new special skins - nothing.

do like i do, suck it up, move on and accept that the bragging value of another set of hard to get stuff is GONE.

The Way Out

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

In my peanut brain

Zomg Zombies [OMG]

Mo/E

19 Mar 2008 at 16:31 - 170

Quote:

Originally Posted by stale

ok, aside from the recent americanism - and really, shouldn't we be pushing English??? not American? sorry, one is a language, other is a bastardisation. of course, so long as we're not using "leetspeak" and the other blatant perversions of the language (kthxbai - anyone???) it should be all good - for someone who ISN'T fluent in english to even TRY deserves respect in my book.

but the whole rest of the thread has fallen into PvP vs. PvE idiocy. hell, 2/3 of the posts can be summed up as follows.

(the below are blatant stereotypes, and don't reflect MY opinions)

PvPer: PvE is talentless grinding noobishness... because we're the all-powerful-talented-ubergodz of gaming, we deserve all the PvE-only items just for existing.

PvEer: PvP is all about E-peen, elitism, and sexist jokes between acne ridden basement dwellers! screw-em, and make them PLAY THE GAME!!!

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now, i've stated before, that i do spend a great deal of time split between PvE and PvP (mostly TA/GvG and AB). PvP only toons, IMHO, don't deserve ANY of the special stuff - but that's because i'm one of a dying type - ALL my PvP chars (cept the monk) started life as a PvE char. worked through the game, unlocked anything i thought i'd need, and i go back for stuff i want.

now, were all folks to PvP in that way, the issue would never come up. andfor why i don't believe that a PvP only character deserves anything from the PvE goodies rack? you get an instant lvl 20 char, with access to all the skills (no tossing around a few hundred K to get all the skills)and quick and easy access to every mod in the game. and the price you pay for this convienience??? you're boring looking. sorry, but it's true!

now, to all of the PvE folks - chaos gloves are going to come to PvP only chars - it's just a matter of time, and you are NOT going to get anything to trade for them - no emote's for KoaBD, no new special skins - nothing.

do like i do, suck it up, move on and accept that the bragging value of another set of hard to get stuff is GONE.

....

Go Canada... the other bastardized country in North America! I like when a bastard calls another bastard a bastard.

stale

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

canada

Bong Wielding Maniacs

R/Mo

19 Mar 2008 at 16:38 - 171

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Way Out

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Go Canada... the other bastardized country in North America! I like when a bastard calls another bastard a bastard.

lol, i was referring specifically to language, but hey, it's all good.

though, for what it's worth, there's English (the language) and American (the bastardised version of the english language)

in most, hell, many respects, canada and america are similar - but we still hold true to the King's English (Queen's English, if you prefer) and not the fun farce that is American English.

i will grant, language is one of the very few things i get discriminatory about - nobody using "leetspeak" or other abuses of the language (intentional abuses, that is) are welcome in my guild, or the alliance - they get a quick invitation to the world.

and hey, we're all just bastards around here, eh?

peace!

stale

*edit - as a quick test, pronounce the letter Z, or spell a few words. Colour, neighbour, behaviour, centre, etc, ad nauseum. minor differences, i grant you, but the sum of the differences makes for a completely different reading experience....

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

19 Mar 2008 at 21:06 - 172

Quote:

Originally Posted by stale

as a quick test, pronounce the letter Z, or spell a few words. Colour, neighbour, behaviour, centre, etc, ad nauseum. minor differences, i grant you, but the sum of the differences makes for a completely different reading experience....

Don't get me wrong, even though I'm American, I recognize the general superiority of the English, without whom, I would not exist. I prefer to spell words like "colour, armour, theatre" and others, because I feel that is the way the word was meant to be spelled. But, one thing I just couldn't grasp is the whole "Z = Zed" thing. I realize that there are letters that make no sense as to why they are called that (W = Double U anyone?). But most letters in the English language are said mostly the way they are used in words (i.e. D = Dee, such as debate) but, the letter Zed makes no sense to me, at all.

Sorry for off-topic, but that's just my 2 quid.

Zesbeer

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

LLJK

19 Mar 2008 at 21:14 - 173

the hole RP point system is mega fail anet says its a way to reward people in the game but yet you cant keep the stuff you get and you can get them for free from guessing. they should have just made it an unlocking system so if you get armor or that sort of shit in pve then you can ware it on a pvp ch. i for one only have one slot open for pvp so i remake that ch all the time.

Talarian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Ninth Legion [TNL]

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19 Mar 2008 at 22:03 - 174

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanyatta

I realize that there are letters that make no sense as to why they are called that (W = Double U anyone?).

Dunno why, but that made me chuckle, in context.

Emphasis added

Artorius.Maximus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rising Rebellion

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20 Mar 2008 at 00:50 - 175

Quote:

Originally Posted by stale

though, for what it's worth, there's English (the language) and American (the bastardised version of the english language)

Similar to the way that there is French (which is a language, also a salad dressing) and then there is Quebecois (which for the most part is French, but is really a bastardised version of the french language), not to mention there is Cajun (which could be really good food, but is another version of the french language).

Edit: Not stating that all of Canada speaks French, pretty sure it is just that one province and I understand that the majority of the country speaks English.

No, I am not even going to try to do this with Spanish since Spainiards, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, and whatever other central american country all have different dialects (fancy term for bastardised version of language).

Chinese is the same way.

Something about PvPers and PvEers all whining too much for something close to on topic.

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

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20 Mar 2008 at 01:38 - 176

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanyatta

I realize that there are letters that make no sense as to why they are called that (W = Double U anyone?).

In the Germanic languages W=Double V

Off topic again

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

21 Mar 2008 at 09:37 - 177

The jealousy and "NO ITS MINE U CANT HAVE IT" mentality of 5 years old is staggering.
very happy face

Lil Johnny has Master Chief toy so Johnny doesn't want others to have it.

Stella/Shin

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2008

London, UK

Mo/

21 Mar 2008 at 14:31 - 178

/not signed

PvE is also about getting good armor so if PvP characters are allowed to wear glasses , chaos gloves, etc... then that's taking a factor of PvE away and it makes the speciallity of those PvE only armor pieces go down and they wouldn't be somehting that everyone wants anymore. Besides, PvP isn't about the skins....

devilru

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

公平さの光 [微笑]

22 Mar 2008 at 02:13 - 179

I couldn't be bothered reading the whole thread so if this has already been suggested then my bad.

Why not let PvP characters equip already customized weapons and armour?
This would work like an already customized weapon being able to be equipped by a hero.

Pretty much this would let me use the 400k I have lying around in storage to buy 15k armour on my PvE Warrior and be able to use it on my PvP Warrior, that way I don't have to get UAX on my PvE Toons.

This could potentially create a 'WTS 15k Armour' problem, but perhaps A-Net could make it account based or something. (your PvP char. can only equip a customized item that has been customized by another char. on your account)

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

22 Mar 2008 at 03:22 - 180

Quote:

Originally Posted by devilru

Why not let PvP characters equip already customized weapons and armour?

If I understand you correctly, you just said "Why not get rid of Reward Points?" If we can unlock armours like skills, what's the purpose of RP's?

devilru

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

公平さの光 [微笑]

22 Mar 2008 at 04:50 - 181

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanyatta

If I understand you correctly, you just said "Why not get rid of Reward Points?" If we can unlock armours like skills, what's the purpose of RP's?

They can still be used to purchase Z-keys.

Also not all PvPers still have gold left in their storage as they probably don't play PvE anymore.
Another example is that I might have a PvP ele that I want to get cool armour for, however I might not have a PvE ele in the first place to buy the 15k armour, hence I would use reward points.

As it is now, you can already just purchase a cool weapon skin from PvE and use it on your PvP character, why not let us do the same with armour as well? And by making it account-based-customization-equippable-only, you eliminate the fears of people selling armour.

Cheevy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Tyria

Ocravia Deathblade /// Light Music Club [K-On]

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22 Mar 2008 at 23:31 - 182

/not signed

i will, if they let us find Crystalline Swords in Ascalonian Chest <lol>

X Ice Man X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

England

22 Mar 2008 at 23:56 - 183

I'll agree when I get fame for killing a mob in PvE.

If you want PvE stuff play PvE
If you want PvP stuff play PvP

Don't increase the PvE rewards for PvP when you get no PvP rewards for PvE.

Patrician

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

23 Mar 2008 at 01:57 - 184

well, u cant get few pvp items in pve(like kaineng wand) so it would be unfair if u could get all pve items in pvp...

Oleg

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

The Apologetti

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23 Mar 2008 at 01:58 - 185

If it's a PvE item you can just walk up and buy, make it available to PvP only chars. If it has a GW:EN race req don't make it available to a PvP char. Simple as that really.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

23 Mar 2008 at 02:15 - 186

Have said it before and will say it again:

Sure, you can have Chaos Gloves. As soon as you get r5 Delver on a PvP character.

IE never.

lazyrussian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

D/

23 Mar 2008 at 10:23 - 187

/signed

I'm currently using my PvP Dervish to farm Zaishen Keys sot hat I can purchase monument armor and chaos gloves on my PvE Dervish, which i will in-turn, bring to the PvP arenas.
I rather avoid this all together and allow myself to get the exotic armor with tournament rewards or with faction (balth or kurz/lux) or something of that sort.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

23 Mar 2008 at 14:33 - 188

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrician

well, u cant get few pvp items in pve(like kaineng wand) so it would be unfair if u could get all pve items in pvp...

If the Chaos Gloves are brought over to PvP, it would, essentially, be only fair if the PvE community got stuff like the Kaineng Wand. I don't think there'd be much fuss about that.

.Qualengeist.

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2008

Mo/

23 Mar 2008 at 20:20 - 189

/signed
my PvP Assassin would love it to have some chaos gloves

Itokaru

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

BC, Canada

Disciples of the Fish

R/Mo

27 Mar 2008 at 02:00 - 190

/signed
I think that PvE should only be played if it wants to be played, not to get the items that come with it.

yum

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

W/E

27 Mar 2008 at 02:45 - 191

How about changing chaos gloves' skin => cathan gloves' skin and vice versa

ALICE WInterLand

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

SINGAPORE

XMEN

Me/R

28 Mar 2008 at 13:04 - 192

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avarax

I heard wearing Chaos Gloves makes you better player!

/signed

(Cover mouth and laugh) LMAO!!

/not signed

there is a sense of rush of excitment and rewards for hard core Pvp...u can show off ur EMote all u wan.we will keep the Nice skin for ourselves thk u very much...its only fair

Posts Merged by Celestial Beaver: Please refrain from double posting.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

28 Mar 2008 at 14:23 - 193

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avarax

I heard wearing Chaos Gloves makes you a better player!

/signed

My sarcasm sensors are going wild!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALICE WInterLand

(Cover mouth and laugh) LMAO!!

My "person that has a hard time picking up sarcasm" sensors are going wild!

bas koopman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

Looking for a GvG guild

W/E

31 Mar 2008 at 21:09 - 194

people seem to forget that you get a rank in HA, but only get RP's in GvG and HB >.> They are not the same thing

MdoubleV

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

Lithor The Perfect

N/Mo

03 Jun 2008 at 17:55 - 195

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiquana

/signed

If pvp chars can wear obsidian armor they can wear chaos gloves and another gwen items too:P

But why should you work so hard with a PvE character for it, iff you simply could make a PvP character and play with obsidian armor. It would make PvE not fun anymore.

Sai Rith

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/

03 Jun 2008 at 21:53 - 196

/signed. PvPer's should be rewarded for their playing and wins.

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

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04 Jun 2008 at 07:24 - 197

hahahaha

/not signed! everytime PvE players ask for something, PvP players will not signed them and says noob play PvP! guess what? Play PvE if you want PvE stuffs :P~

Moloch Vein

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Reactive Hexing Sucks

[Thay]

N/

04 Jun 2008 at 07:53 - 198

I just want them to make full chaos ARMOR.

If they did then maybe I'd start worrying about getting the silly gloves...

NYC Elite

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

A/

04 Jun 2008 at 11:46 - 199

/notsigned

If you want Chaos Gloves, PvE for them instead of calling them scrubs all day and trying to have everything PvE has and more.

P.S. LMAO @ 12 page QQ fest.

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

04 Jun 2008 at 11:49 - 200

would be nice but thats all GW:EN stuff (PVE expansion)...
i wouldn't like it if have to get 75 ectos + 10k + more materials for such an item and others get it straight off the mark. Its not the same situation with armor though