What are some of the most useless skills in GW? - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Dark Kal

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

13 Mar 2008 at 14:03 - 1

I was just wondering what you consider some of the most useless skills in GW and I really mean the skills nobody uses, skills even noobs don't touch, excluding all PvE only skills to prevent flaming. Just a few examples I find nearly completely useless:

Assassin

Fox Fangs
Shroud of Silence [E]
Wastrel's Collapse [E]

Elementalist

Elemental Flame
Iron Mist
Swirling Aura
Energy Boon[E]
Ether Prodigy[E]
Mirror of Ice[E]
Second Wind [E]

Mesmer

Etheral Burden/Kitah's Burden
Persistence of Memory

Monk

Healing Ring
Light of Dwayna
Protective Bond
Amity [E]
Balthazar's Pendulum [E]
Peace and Harmony [E]

Paragon

"The Power Is Yours!" [E]
Incoming [E]

Ranger

Expert's Dexterity [E]

Ritualist

Armor of Unfeeling
Restoration
Weapon of Aggression
Xinrae's Weapon [E]

Warrior

"You Will Die"
"Watch Yourself!"
Deflect Arrows
Enraged Smash [E]

I'll add/remove to the list as needed.

Edit:
Gift of Health removed from the list

Headbutt removed from the list [I was aware of the W/N plague option, but 15 energy seems a lot and there are better ways to cause dazed IMO, regardlessly enough people mentioned it to be removed.]

Amity added to the list [I was kind of reluctant to add it since I can see some use for the skill (e.g. to disable a group of enemies and picking them off one by one, although practically it's not very realistic), also there is a non-elite skill alternative that can mostly replace it, only difference is that it only disables one enemy (i.e. a boss) which I do feel could be usefull so I will not be adding "Pacifism", and enough people mentioned it.]

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

13 Mar 2008 at 14:05 - 2

"Watch Yourself!"

Edit: I mean, it used to be commonly ran in AB... now I never see it anymore, not in any PuGs, not in AB, not in RA... RIP watch yourself, you will be loved and missed.

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

13 Mar 2008 at 14:05 - 3

Peace and Harmony has to be the worst elite ever.

Jack The Wretched

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

We Eat At Kfc [PuKe]

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13 Mar 2008 at 14:06 - 4

Gift of Health? ... 2 monk backline RC mebbeeee?
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Imo, every skill is useful, as long as you find a purpose for it, orrrrr a combination of skills thats decent with that 1 skill.

DDL

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

13 Mar 2008 at 14:12 - 5

[skill]Wastrel's Collapse[/skill]?

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

13 Mar 2008 at 14:16 - 6

if you serch this, this is kind of an old thread, and im not usually one to complain about that, im just warning you that there are other elitist that will be kinda jerky once they see that...

imo Wastrels and Visions of Regret. I also dont like Xinraes anything.

Inferno Link

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

E/R

13 Mar 2008 at 14:18 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDL

[skill]Wastrel's Collapse[/skill]?

Seriously.. What the hell is the purpose of that lol.

qazwersder

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

I'll be looking soon

E/

13 Mar 2008 at 14:23 - 8

Out of the three you mention, to my knowledge only Light of Dwayna has never been useful. The original 55's used protective bond. Gift of health is very useful when running a prot build, it provides a lot of health for your level in healing prayers, used to be used all the time in 2 monk backlines.

There are other threads about this tho, worst elite skills and worst skills.

Im not sure on my opinion of the worst.

Loli Krasivaya

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Divine Order of Heroes (DOoH)

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13 Mar 2008 at 14:24 - 9

o.O @ Wastrel's Collapse. Taking up an elite space, really?

/shame

I used Peace and Harmony on my monk through the jungle

I was new and thought it was oh-so-shiny.

draico

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

The homes of svennar (SWE)

GoE

N/

13 Mar 2008 at 14:32 - 10

Wastrels Collapse really sucks...

Wail of Doom FTW!

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

13 Mar 2008 at 14:39 - 11

they should really change that skill :/
if they're editing skills like WoD why don't change WC :/
should start making some oppinions on how to change WC into something useful

RiKio

Krytan Explorer

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Plato's Cave

W/E

13 Mar 2008 at 14:40 - 12

[skill]Iron Mist[/skill] owns

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

13 Mar 2008 at 14:41 - 13

Er, I still use Gift of Health on my hybrid monk heroes for some nice heals. They're too dumb to use Dwayna's Kiss to full effectiveness.

Light of Dwayna did have a purpose at one time, when EoE bomb was run in Halls. They put Mark of Protection on a mesmer with it, everyone sacced, the mesmer survived and ressed everyone, everyone sacced again. GG (against idiots who didn't interrupt the mes, kill the spirit, or run out of range...)

bungusmaximus

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Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

13 Mar 2008 at 14:42 - 14

<trollmode>Ursan Blessing</trollmode>

What apes are saying Gift Of Health is useless btw? it has been used a lot on prot bars :S

DDL

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

13 Mar 2008 at 14:42 - 15

Chain echo Iron mist in RA is guaranteed to get some laffs, I imagine. Just..not from your own team.

Flem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

NA

N/Me

13 Mar 2008 at 14:46 - 16

As stated earlier, pretty much all skills have a use. It's your job to find it.

Dark Kal

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

13 Mar 2008 at 14:54 - 17

Didn't know this was already discussed so much, sorry for the repeat I was just intrested in creating a list of least used skills. Didn't know how to search for these kinds of threads I'll try searching "worst skills" threads.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flem

As stated earlier, pretty much all skills have a use. It's your job to find it.

Explain to me how Light of Dwayna, Protective Bond could possibly have a use? It's a utopian thought that all skills have a use.

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

13 Mar 2008 at 15:03 - 18

Where you the one I killed in RA last night useing [skill]primal Rage[/skill]

I pm erveryone before the match that i was using a crappy skill. And killed a poor sin who was trying to type a LOL message. 100 plus hits

Firefly21

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Florida

[ball] Guild

W/Mo

13 Mar 2008 at 15:13 - 19

Warrior
Axe Mastery
[skill]Penetrating Blow[/skill] & [skill]Penetrating Chop[/skill] (Both really the same skill, and there are better damage attacks out there.)
[skill]Whirling Axe[/skill] (Never seen anyone use…)
Hammer Mastery
[skill]Enraged Smash[/skill] (Never seen anyone use… Kind of sucks...)
[skill]Overbearing Smash[/skill] (Never seen anyone use… I think it cost too much adrenaline)
[skill]Staggering Blow[/skill] (Another Hammer attack that gives weakness… also it cost six adrenaline….)
Strength
"I Meant to Do That!" (Never seen anyone use it)
[skill]"You Will Die!"[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it)
[skill]Battle Rage[/skill] (I think it just sucks)
[skill]Charging Strike[/skill] (Never seen anyone use)
[skill]Flail[/skill] (Never seen anyone use)
[skill]Headbutt[/skill] (What kind of shitty elite is this! I wouldn’t use it even if it wasn’t an elite!)
[skill]Rage of the Ntouka[/skill] (Never seen anyone use)
Swordsmanship
[skill]Quivering Blade[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it)
Tactics
[skill]"Retreat!"[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it…)
[skill]Auspicious Parry[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it…)
[skill]Deflect Arrows[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it…)
[skill]Disciplined Stance[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it…)
[skill]"On Your Knees!"[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it…)
[skill]"You're All Alone!"[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it…)
[skill]Frenzied Defense[/skill] (Everyone seem to just use Frenzy)
[skill]Skull Crack[/skill] (Never used, I think it cost too much adrenaline)
Allegiance Rank
"Save Yourselves!" (Cost too much adrenaline and doesn't last very long)

This is all just for the warrior I didn’t feel like making a list for the other classes…

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

13 Mar 2008 at 15:21 - 20

I use Gift Of Health on my ZB prot hybrid build, works well so far... and Peace and Harmony has one and only one purpose to me: Foundry 3-man HM farming (famine/QZ/EOE ranger, 600 monk and... Peace and Harmony smiter).

Trying to think of more useless skills. I'm gonna get a list and edit my post in a few.

- Supportive Spirit.
- Pacifism
- Dark Fury

... too lazy to keep searching =_=;;

Nightmares Hammer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

W/

13 Mar 2008 at 15:24 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firefly21

[skill]Flail[/skill] (Never seen anyone use)
[skill]Quivering Blade[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it)
"Save Yourselves!" (Cost too much adrenaline and doesn't last very long)

Lol... Just lol.

SuTiH

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Whats Going On [sup]

Mo/

13 Mar 2008 at 15:25 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDL

[skill]Wastrel's Collapse[/skill]?

I guess you can get some weird build with diversion...

DDL

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

13 Mar 2008 at 15:26 - 23

Also, [skill]Headbutt[/skill] plus [skill]Plague Touch[/skill] is a pretty nasty combo.

Noel Hope

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

America

[SBP]

Mo/

13 Mar 2008 at 15:26 - 24

[skill]Peace and harmony[/skill] [skill]unyielding aura[/skill] [skill]healing breeze[/skill][skill]protective bond[/skill][skill]infuse health[/skill]

Did I forget to mention Ursan Blessing? *cough* ;p

Flem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

NA

N/Me

13 Mar 2008 at 15:38 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Kal

Explain to me how Light of Dwayna, Protective Bond could possibly have a use? It's a utopian thought that all skills have a use.

LoD used to be used in Minion Factory often. It's possible to resurrect your whole Guild if it's a close battle and lots of bodies in one area, esspecially if used with "We Shall Return!"

Prot. Bond could be really useful against foes that hit super hard but not very often, possibly. Conbine with energy recover skills and this could be held of the whole fight.

I'm sure there are several other uses for both skills, but I'm not sure of others. Like I said, it's the users job to find the best use for it.

rayd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

No Veo Na [xX]

13 Mar 2008 at 15:39 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firefly21

[skill]Flail[/skill] (Never seen anyone use)
[skill]Rage of the Ntouka[/skill] (Never seen anyone use)
[skill]Disciplined Stance[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it…)
[skill]"You're All Alone!"[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it…)
[skill]Frenzied Defense[/skill] (Everyone seem to just use Frenzy)
"Save Yourselves!" (Cost too much adrenaline and doesn't last very long)

Wait... WHAT

And: LOL at infuse health above

Amity, best elite skill in the game, hax

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

13 Mar 2008 at 15:39 - 27

Unyielding aura to use when you res someone you hate ;D
Quivering blade is a good skill
explanation: good damage, low adrenaline use and if it is blocked it's 4 seconds disabled and you're dazed
i don't see anything bad
unless you're a hopeless wammo >_>
Flail is also a fine skill rly
the very worst skill to me in the entire game is
[skill]wastrel's collapse[/skill]
seriously... wtf?????!
i mean what were they thinking when they made this skill

Flem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

NA

N/Me

13 Mar 2008 at 15:41 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noel Hope

[skill]Peace and harmony[/skill] [skill]unyielding aura[/skill] [skill]healing breeze[/skill][skill]protective bond[/skill][skill]infuse health[/skill]

Did I forget to mention Ursan Blessing? *cough* ;p

Infuse Health? Healing Breeze? Really? I thought those are generally known as useful skills...

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

13 Mar 2008 at 15:45 - 29

Breeze is commonly used yet still sucks, infuse however is commonly used and actually good (used to save spikes in 8vs8 pvp and, in my case, in elite missions).

shogun avatar

Krytan Explorer

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Croatia

Precko Boys [PREX]

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13 Mar 2008 at 15:48 - 30

@Firefly21

Axe Mastery
[skill]Whirling Axe[/skill] - very spammable axe attack
Strength
[skill]Flail[/skill] - are you serious?
[skill]Headbutt[/skill] this + plague signet
Swordsmanship
[skill]Quivering Blade[/skill] - spammable high DPS sword attack
Tactics
[skill]Auspicious Parry[/skill] - used in riposite builds
[skill]"On Your Knees!"[/skill] - used commonly in combination with gladiator's defence
[skill]"You're All Alone!"[/skill] - very commonly used in pvp
Allegiance Rank
"Save Yourselves!" - dragon slash, for great justice. With rank 1 can be kept up for a LONG time

Just some skills you say suck and i think are great

Tutis Evito

Krytan Explorer

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England,UK

Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM]

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13 Mar 2008 at 15:52 - 31

[skill]expert's dexterity[/skill]

X Ice Man X

Frost Gate Guardian

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England

13 Mar 2008 at 15:53 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firefly21

Warrior
Axe Mastery
[skill]Penetrating Blow[/skill] & [skill]Penetrating Chop[/skill] (Both really the same skill, and there are better damage attacks out there.)
[skill]Whirling Axe[/skill] (Never seen anyone use…)
Hammer Mastery
[skill]Enraged Smash[/skill] (Never seen anyone use… Kind of sucks...)
[skill]Overbearing Smash[/skill] (Never seen anyone use… I think it cost too much adrenaline)
[skill]Staggering Blow[/skill] (Another Hammer attack that gives weakness… also it cost six adrenaline….)
Strength
"I Meant to Do That!" (Never seen anyone use it)
[skill]"You Will Die!"[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it)
[skill]Battle Rage[/skill] (I think it just sucks)
[skill]Charging Strike[/skill] (Never seen anyone use)
[skill]Flail[/skill] (Never seen anyone use)
[skill]Headbutt[/skill] (What kind of shitty elite is this! I wouldn’t use it even if it wasn’t an elite!)
[skill]Rage of the Ntouka[/skill] (Never seen anyone use)
Swordsmanship
[skill]Quivering Blade[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it)
Tactics
[skill]"Retreat!"[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it…)
[skill]Auspicious Parry[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it…)
[skill]Deflect Arrows[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it…)
[skill]Disciplined Stance[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it…)
[skill]"On Your Knees!"[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it…)
[skill]"You're All Alone!"[/skill] (Never seen anyone use it…)
[skill]Frenzied Defense[/skill] (Everyone seem to just use Frenzy)
[skill]Skull Crack[/skill] (Never used, I think it cost too much adrenaline)
Allegiance Rank
"Save Yourselves!" (Cost too much adrenaline and doesn't last very long)

This is all just for the warrior I didn’t feel like making a list for the other classes…

You need to play some people other than H/H, loads of people use those skills. Maybe not all of them but you've listed quiet a few good elites there.

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

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13 Mar 2008 at 16:06 - 33

[skill]lava arrows[/skill] anyone?
[skill]mirror of ice[/skill] never actually saw anyone LOOK at it.
[skill]ride the lightning[/skill] it's crappy

Also I don't know why you guys hate Iron mist so much. Used properly it can really screw a lone warrior or melee toon.

aTT!kus

Krytan Explorer

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U.S.

[FluX]

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13 Mar 2008 at 16:17 - 34

ride the lightning is used alot on AB's

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

13 Mar 2008 at 16:22 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by prism2525

Also I don't know why you guys hate Iron mist so much. Used properly it can really screw a lone warrior or melee toon.

Gadd.

Also, Iron Mist used to be one of the skill that an E/Mo griefer in aspenwood would use... throw up Iron Mist on Gunther, or a siege turtle, and they become a pain to kill. So I'd guess a lot of people have had bad memories with Iron Mist.

[skill]Double Dragon[/skill] Unfortunately, the name of this skill is a magnet for all those little noobies you find in AB. A/E with Double Dragon and 6 in Fire Magic anyone...

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

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13 Mar 2008 at 16:26 - 36

I love Iron Mist. I throw that and 7 fire nukes on my bar when fighting Doppleganger.

As stated earlier, every skill is useful someplace. You just have to figure out where.

Boogz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

Variable Speed Farmers[VsF]

Mo/

13 Mar 2008 at 16:29 - 37

for monks :
Amity
Supportive Spirit
Pacifism
Mark of Protection
Peace and Harmony
Spell Shield
Healing Ring
Shield Guardian
Scourge Sacrifie
Kirin's Wrath / Symbol of Wrath
Word of Censure
Ressurect
Vengeance
Purge Conditions
Unyelding Aura
Protective Bond

mesmers :
Persistence of Memory
Symbolic Celerity
Symbolic Posture
Symbols of Inspiration
Air of Disenchantment
Kitah's Burden / Etheral Burden
Shared Burden
Extend Conditions
Keystone Signet
Lyssa's Aura
Tease

elementalists :
Glimmering Mark
Gust
Thunderclap
Iron Mist
Magnetic Aura
Stone Sheath
Enery Boon
Ether Prism
Ether Prodigy
Ether Renewal
Glyph of Energy (the current one)
Double Dragon
Elemental Flame
Armor of Frost
Ice Spear
Flare
Icy Prism
Mirror of Ice
Swirling Aura

ritualists :
Clamor of Souls
Caretaker's Charge
Gaze from Beyond
Lamentation
Signet of Spirits
Spirit Boon Strike
Weapon of Aggresion
Wailing Weapon
Armor of Unfeeling
Defiant Was Xinrae
Dulled Weapon
Restoration
Signet of Ghostly Might
Xinrae's Weapon
Lively Was Naomei
Mending Grip
Spiritleech Aura
Tranquil Was Tanasen
Vocal Was Sogolon
Spirit to Flesh
Weapon of Renewal

phan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

phantasmagoria

13 Mar 2008 at 16:33 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack The Wretched

Gift of Health?

used with :

rc

zb

sod

old matyr builds ;

Quote:

Originally Posted by prism2525

[skill]ride the lightning[/skill]

Its great fun

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noel Hope

[skill]infuse health[/skill]

Oh my god -.-

Quote:

Originally Posted by the end is near

I don't see much of a use for Slippery Ground. Might just be me though.

glyph of immolation - steam - slippery grounds =)

BTW : there is probably a use for every skill in the whole of GW ; so pls just close this lame tread ..

flclisgreat

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been using this avatar IRL for ever

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13 Mar 2008 at 16:35 - 39

firefly, not sure what your smoking but flail is the shit

End

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Rubbing Potassium on water fountains.

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

N/A

13 Mar 2008 at 16:37 - 40

I don't see much of a use for Slippery Ground. Might just be me though.