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mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

26 Mar 2008 at 14:11 - 1

Well most of you already know the heated discussion we have about LS and if it should be removed if rmt works.
Another reason Anet suggested for applying LS was because they wanted players to rather trade with each other through drops by playing the game.

1 Year Later: On 9 chars I have and 4 tabs of storage space, i have 20spaces open for drops from the game, across all chars & storage space. All other spaces are filled with mods & inscriptions. 80% of Which can't be sold due to no demand, and massive supply. What's even worse most of those items are double, and are of the exact same type.

As there are no auction houses, or traders that buy inscriptions or mods, the only thing todo is either trash them, or merch them. Which offcourse is against the whole principal of people making money by trading.....

So my question is should Mods & Insignia's become stackable now? Or should the players just merch it, and buy the inscription when they really need it? Or keep all their storage spaces filled?

Another suggestion would be to have a merchant for Inscriptions + Mods, which would be the best option in my opinion.

Perhaps this could become a Poll?

/sign for Stackable.
/sign for Merchant.
/notsigned I'm fine keeping stuff in storage, or merching it.
/I want Pie, I don't care.

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

26 Mar 2008 at 14:14 - 2

/notsigned
it's fine as it is
if youw ant perfect weapons get greens
/notsigned for stack and merchant
but i like pie

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

26 Mar 2008 at 14:14 - 3

/sign for trader.

Stackable seems overkill, but improving trading is always a good idea.

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

26 Mar 2008 at 14:14 - 4

Although this seems more like a suggestion that would go into the main threads on the matter in Sardelac, I'm all for #1 or #2. There really isn't a reason that they'd be mutually exclusive, either (e.g. see materials and dyes).

matsif

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Warriors of Factions [WOF]

E/Me

26 Mar 2008 at 14:15 - 5

/sign for stackable
/sign for mod/insc trader npc

I think its a good idea

Fear And Horror

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

Heroes Ascent

German Trade Elite [ ]

Mo/

26 Mar 2008 at 14:17 - 6

/sign for trage
/sign for stackable... i asked gaile... 1 month ago... she didnt told me anything on her last visit xD

Squishy ftw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Your backline

W/

26 Mar 2008 at 14:19 - 7

/sign for stackable.
My mules would love this.

Silverblad3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

UK

I use to love CB :(

Mo/

26 Mar 2008 at 14:21 - 8

/signed stackable
/signed merchant
/signed need better trading/auction system

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

26 Mar 2008 at 14:22 - 9

What part of "GW1 is EOL'd" haven't you understood yet? Also, there is a specific forum for suggestions, and your particular suggestions have been made before. GW1 is what it is; stop inciting endless threads about changes that will never happen.

grizzla

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2008

Exclusive Club [EKA]

A/R

26 Mar 2008 at 14:27 - 10

/sign stackable
/sign trader

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

26 Mar 2008 at 14:27 - 11

/ signed for stackable (also, stackable runes and insignia, damnit!, alno minipets and collector reward items and greens ... anything that is guaranteed to be exact same item.)
/ signed for trader. seriously, i am tired of looking for elemental mod for hours.

/ signed for XMP

AbalaDoon

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

anubis empire

N/Mo

26 Mar 2008 at 14:30 - 12

/signed

across the board

Cronk

ive been lookin for a mod trader for a while. i think it would bring some stability to the mod market. inscriptions= BIG fail

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

26 Mar 2008 at 14:30 - 13

This is one of those ideas that people post over and over in Sardelac, then put a question mark at the end and put it in Riverside in hope that ANet will see it, isn't it?

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

26 Mar 2008 at 14:30 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_groovy

80% of Which can't be sold due to no demand, and massive supply. What's even worse most of those items are double, and are of the exact same type.

The merch will buy it for 25 gold.
OR you can waste 10 bucks and get a new char slot.

Seriously - I do the SAME thing - but at the end of the day - it's us that are the problem here.
WE DON'T NEED ALL THE CRAP WE SAVE.
And I am always thinking - maybe I'll need it!
And I never do.

Having said that - I wouldn't mind your if there was a special merch for it and if they were stackable. It would make the game more enjoyable.

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

26 Mar 2008 at 14:31 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esan

What part of "GW1 is EOL'd" haven't you understood yet? Also, there is a specific forum for suggestions, and your particular suggestions have been made before. GW1 is what it is; stop inciting endless threads about changes that will never happen.

What part of this being a "FAN" site don't you understand? We are all on this forum because we like the game. And in the current state of gw, things need to be adressed and changed. Do you really think that gw how it is will survive untill 2010 or later?

Just /notsigned or /I want pie. Your not helping the discussion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

This is one of those ideas that people post over and over in Sardelac, then put a question mark at the end and put it in Riverside in hope that ANet will see it, isn't it?

It has been a long time that they have been anywhere near the Sardelec. Also in the current state of gw, imo changes must be made. Here's for wishfull thinking. >.>

Sub Frost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Portugal

R/

26 Mar 2008 at 14:33 - 16

/I want Pie, I don't care.

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

26 Mar 2008 at 14:36 - 17

GW1 will "survive" as long as the servers are live, i.e., as long as it remains economically viable to keep them up. I don't personally expect the servers to be up until 2010. The PC gaming and MMORPG genres are moribund and in the hard times ahead Anet should be sensible and put their full force behind GW2.

Mattman243

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Four Star Christian Force

W/Mo

26 Mar 2008 at 14:37 - 18

/signed for everything (trader, stackable)

It would be a nice addition to the game.

Also, esan, GW1 is STILL constantly changing. What about the BMP, Design a Weapon contest, the new traders for our guild halls? Don't forget about the new Party Animal Title(and maybe even XMP someday). And the servers will still be around 2010 and beyond, Anet said that when they first announced GW2.

Talarian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Ninth Legion [TNL]

E/

26 Mar 2008 at 14:38 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esan

What part of "GW1 is EOL'd" haven't you understood yet? Also, there is a specific forum for suggestions, and your particular suggestions have been made before. GW1 is what it is; stop inciting endless threads about changes that will never happen.

So we should stop posting what changes we would like made to GW, and shouldn't post about what we would like to see in GW2...

What's the point of these forums then?

BTW /signed

flyinhigh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

meh

wtfpwned

N/

26 Mar 2008 at 14:38 - 20

/signed trader
/signed stackable

creelie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Alberta

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Mo/

26 Mar 2008 at 14:38 - 21

/signed for stackable and trader (for max mods and inscriptions only)

wise range master

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

none as of now

R/Mo

26 Mar 2008 at 14:41 - 22

mabye they should do the trader and have a 6 slot like the 5 slot for materials but not stacking 6 slot just unlimited wepon mod holder no stacking that would kill econmy even more
/signed
stacking would be very bad but other ideas are you came up with

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO]

E/Me

26 Mar 2008 at 14:41 - 23

/signed for stacking...anything that is exactly the same should be stackable. If it were though I'd have like 4 stacks of that stupid green bow outside Rhilon Refuge by now

stretchs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

Untimely Demise [Err了] - SOHK

26 Mar 2008 at 14:47 - 24

/not signed for stackable, but definitely signed for trader

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

26 Mar 2008 at 14:48 - 25

/signed for merchant

i cant stand trading with real players in LA or Kamadan, if i need an inscription it would be so nice to just go and get it from merchant. And it would be much easier to sell off my other inscriptions i dont really need that are just sitting there taking place, waiting or a guildie to say "does anyone have I can See clearly Now" inscription"

/notsigned for stackable, the merchant would probably solve this issue as well. i think its overkill

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

26 Mar 2008 at 14:48 - 26

Two different matters here, really. Can't say I'm too concerned with them being stackable, but the more pressing issue here is making them have a trader - to which I wholeheartedly agree. It doesn't make sense to have these two assets be the only thing that you have to ask for in general chat.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

26 Mar 2008 at 14:51 - 27

Let's consider everything:
- They are upgrades. Just like runes. And they even work quite like them: 25 price unidentified, 26...+100 identified, variable prices, not stackable, salvageable...
- PvP-only accounts don't have a way to mod Zaishen and HoH drops, other than trading with other players or more Zaishen and HoH drops.
- There are rune traders in all PvP outpost.
- If you depend on other players to get them, there will be ALWAYS a lot of upgrades that NO-ONE will sell, NEVER, no matter how much time you wait or where you ask. Why? Because no one would pay for them enough for players to bother to sell them. An example? Most +2 runes.
- If a PvP-account character depend on Zaishen/HoH cests for the upgrades... well... it would be like having a Ferrary with a bike pedal engine. PvP is NOT meant to work so slow. With traders and Xunlai Market they could sell Zaishen/HoH rewards while playing and buy upgrades with the cash.
- Just like runes, if they were stackable, some people would start to use the most expensive ones as currency, like it would happen to superior vigor runes.

So, we end up that traders would be by far the best option:
- They work as storage, so you don't need to store the cheaper ones, only the most expensive that you are planning to use soon. And buy them for just 100g when you need them.
- There will be always or almost always a way to get an upgrade, regardless of people selling it or not.
- People will REALLY know average prices for them, since demand is much easier to see in traders.

So, all upgrades should work the same, all upgrades should have traders, but not be stackable.
If you need an upgrade, you go to the trader(not to your storage), if you don't need it, you sell it to the trader (you don't keep it).
If the upgrade is rare or expensive, you keep it, but you canno keep a lot of them.

"Traders" and "Not stackable" is the best option for upgrades.

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

26 Mar 2008 at 14:52 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_groovy

/sign for Stackable.
/sign for Merchant.
/notsigned I'm fine keeping stuff in storage, or merching it.
/I want Pie, I don't care.

Stackable: Hell yeah. Tired of having like 5 or 6 15^50 inscriptions taking all those spaces in my inventories but I can stack materials. Or the amount of Zelnehlun's Longbows I got during last weekend (8 or 9...).

Merchant: Yeah. Tired of not being able to sell anyone anything... mod/inscription merchant would give me less money but hey, still more money than the usual merchant (2.5k vs. 25g, anytime).

Can I have pie even if I care? D=

Vaal 84

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

UK

R/

26 Mar 2008 at 14:57 - 29

/signed for both.

/signed for pie.

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

26 Mar 2008 at 15:00 - 30

/Signed for Traders.

That would make things a hell of a lot easier, no more endless searching for Niche or even common incriptions etc.

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

26 Mar 2008 at 15:00 - 31

I'm also in the

/signed trader
/signed stackable

I have 12 character slots, 1 primary pve character, and 1 pvp slot. Rest is storage.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

26 Mar 2008 at 15:06 - 32

/notsigned for stackable mods. Giving people the means to stockpile items is bad.

/signed for a trader. It works for other resources, so I'm confident it'll work for mods too.

Twonaiver

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

S??o Paulo Brasil

R/

26 Mar 2008 at 15:08 - 33

/signed for stackable
/signed for trader

should fix the craving for mods and inscriptions, i agree im tired to try and find mods for my eles, and it would help my mules that have like 30 inscriptions on them, and since i need my first mod id like a mod trader.

take_me

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

Europe

Country Roads [HOME]

26 Mar 2008 at 15:09 - 34

Better idea:

Make a new NPC who customizes mods for your own use. And those will be stackable.
The item itself will not be customized but the mod will be, so someone could still buy the item, but would have to change the mod on it.

dunky_g

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

[SNOW]

26 Mar 2008 at 15:11 - 35

/signed stackable

dont think a trader would be that worthwhile as it would just stop people selling mods and would reduce player to player trading.

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

26 Mar 2008 at 15:14 - 36

/signed trader They waste my space and if I was lucky to get an item that is worth upgrading i would love to go to a trader instead of checking 10 characters inventory to see if I have one

/ not signed no stacking too many chipmonk nut horders already

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

26 Mar 2008 at 15:17 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

This is one of those ideas that people post over and over in Sardelac, then put a question mark at the end and put it in Riverside in hope that ANet will see it, isn't it?

yes it seems to be all the rage lately.

wheeeee....
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...archid=2224409
*shrugs*

yes to traders, yes to stackable preferably in the Grimoire format (because i like grimoires).

GaaaaaH

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

W/

26 Mar 2008 at 15:17 - 38

/sign stackable (if theyre the same values)
/notsign trader

Richardt

Jungle Guide

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http://friendsofloa.com/forum

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26 Mar 2008 at 15:19 - 39

/trader

/undecided for stackable

/pie

But only if it's apple!

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

26 Mar 2008 at 15:20 - 40

If no one wants to buy them, why hold on to them? Just go to merchant and sell them.