GJ for Anet and TY to Gaile for info.
How does the removal of 190.2M gold from the game affect the economy? Will it make the cost of items cheaper? or 190.2M gold is insignificant compared to the total gold in circulation?
Is 771 players are the only buyers of gold or they are the only players who were caught having unexplained gold in their accounts? How about those who bought gold and expend it in game? Are they included in the list?
Stats on RMT Actions
Bluefeather
Moral55
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Originally Posted by Buddhaofwar
that all sounds well and good, but what does it mean for the average player like myself? Other than reduced spam.
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Less QQ on the forums about this subject
Less Bots over all,
Less bandwidth used by others
Oofus
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
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Creeping Carl
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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
Yet it is the simple conclusion. More demand less ability for some people to afford those things because of LS. What else are they going to do. But I guess simple stuff is a little to complex for some to grasp.
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Darksun
scweeeeet...
Drop of Fear
yey numbers look cool.
we need something like this in guild wars 2 from day one...
we need something like this in guild wars 2 from day one...
jadedragoon
Awesome job A-net!
mr_groovy
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by Creeping Carl
Only idiots jump to conclusions without looking at the whole picture.
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Nevin
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Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
Well progress is progress
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tmakinen
Good job so far, but if it's a 'free stats day', then because I'm interested in the current state of the in-game economy two graphs that I'd love to see would be those that show the frequency of all player-to-player and player-to-NPC transactions involving gold, as functions of the total amount of gold transferred, for some representative period of time like a week. Log scales both ways, please 
It's hard to discuss economy when you don't have any statistical indicators to rely on.
It's hard to discuss economy when you don't have any statistical indicators to rely on.
Kashrlyyk
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Originally Posted by Winterclaw
You should have given it back to all the players who don't break the rules.
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Angelic Upstart
Halted online distribution of demo accounts to combat spamming
Noted a significant reduction in RMT spamming
Blocked 391 abused IP addresses
Terminated 4,876 accounts associated with RMT networks
Removed 190,200,000 purchased gold from 771 players
Witnessed a substantial reduction in botting activity in the game
Witnessed a substantial drop in RMT account creation and RMT transactions
A good start keep it up.
Noted a significant reduction in RMT spamming
Blocked 391 abused IP addresses
Terminated 4,876 accounts associated with RMT networks
Removed 190,200,000 purchased gold from 771 players
Witnessed a substantial reduction in botting activity in the game
Witnessed a substantial drop in RMT account creation and RMT transactions
A good start keep it up.
Lycan Nibbler
Now of only upi will do something about the people botting hff out of Lutgardis in Korea, Russian, Polish and other districts. I think with the number in specific guilds I saw and the amount of faction they were getting, that there was something over 1 Mil gold a day entering the system (and Im sure thats not the whole picture either)
Back on topic, good job on the RMT and stopping the spamming . Thanks for the update Gaile.
Back on topic, good job on the RMT and stopping the spamming . Thanks for the update Gaile.
Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I hope to be able to do that from time to time. I'm proud of what our Support Teams are accomplishing, and I'd love the chance to brag a bit about their numbers!
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Boss: Ok what's up with the business guys?
Chairman: They removed 90% of our botters in GW!
Technical boss: Yep, and they banned our IP addresses.
Chairman: And they're even bragging about their actions on fansites!
Boss: What? You mean we can't parasite their game anymore?
Technical boss: Oh, we'll find a way, we'll always be smarter (that's what fans say).
Finance boss: Yes but we need money, fast and it needs to flow guys.
Boss: We need to take action and take back the business that belongs to us! (violently hit the table and crunches the Gaile Gray doll)
Jeff Strain (flying through the window of the 27th floor office): Ah ah! We pwned you RMTers, you shall now know the power of the bot-killer, in the name of the customer protection!
Balan Makki
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
For those, like me, who enjoy a nice tidy bunch o' stats . . .
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Great Job
Though it's a shame you guys have to remove demo distribution. Should maybe add a spam filter to the Demo Account chat, being that online is likely the best place to market a demo. . . Think that's how I found you guys, and how I usually sell friends who may be interested in GW.
Keep up the great work--on everything.
FrAnt1c??
Nice, good to see some positive devellopments, but doesnt affect deleting 190 million gold the guildwars economy?
Iuris
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Commissar Gaile, I fully support this five year plan. Long live our enlightened absolute ruler Anet
DreamWind
I need to play devil's advocate here (because that's what I do).
I really question why these stats have been released, and never any other stats in the history of Guild Wars to my knowledge (besides copies sold). To me, the releasing of these stats seems like some sort of scare tactic or a "hey what we do works!" type of release.
I don't see anything useful coming out of these stats, and if you are going to release game stats, there are a LOT better things I'd like to know about.
I really question why these stats have been released, and never any other stats in the history of Guild Wars to my knowledge (besides copies sold). To me, the releasing of these stats seems like some sort of scare tactic or a "hey what we do works!" type of release.
I don't see anything useful coming out of these stats, and if you are going to release game stats, there are a LOT better things I'd like to know about.
makosi
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Witnessed a substantial reduction in botting activity in the game
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In fact, there are virtually no bots at all nowadays.
spun ducky
Awww no more spam bots now who will listen to my drunken rambles at 3am and act like they are listening always giving me kind responses like gold will make me feel better. roflz Good riddance to those annoying things.
Mr. Undisclosed
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Originally Posted by StormDragonZ
For those of you who hate division, that's approximately 246.6k per player.
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distilledwill
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Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed
Because they each had the exact same ammount of gold? lol
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Anyway, GJ Anet, and cheers for the stats Gaile. I havent seen any bots recently, so I assume its working (Although, I havent spent much time in the prime botting spots.)
Witchblade
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Terminated 4,876 accounts associated with RMT networks
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Ku Ku
I'm glad to see anet taking the bull by the horns so to speak! You guys are tackling this from every angle - nice work. (P.s. Impliment marketplace now :P?)
Arduin
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Originally Posted by Witchblade
5124 to go for maxed title
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But seriously, job very well done. It makes playing a lot more fun without all those gold sellers spamming you as soon as you log in.
thral
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Oh, now, see? I like your way of thinking. And I say minipets -- the super-rare and amazing text minipets! -- for all!!
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. Were still waiting for a minipet giveaway here(South Africa).(Dont forget the people in Australia and New Zealand, i know its the same for you guys too.)Good Job by the way. International district is so much quiter and i dont get adverts whisped to me every hour
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MagmaRed
Nice stats. I agree that we are weak on stats for the game though. Is it possible to have some sats released that people might be interested in? Ones I'm curious about, especially after seeing the stats like those are:
- Total # of accounts (we know 5 million copies sold, but how many are people who own 1 game only, and how many with multiple games linked?)
- Total # of bots banned (not including bans for EULA abuse, just the bots)
- Activity levels (max, min, and average players in a 24 hour period maybe)
- Total number of guilds (not including disbanded ones, just ones active)
- Total number of alliances (comparison between Kurzick and Luxon)
- Total number of PvP characters and PvE characters (would fluxuate due to deletion, but would be neat to see)
I'm glad we get stats, I just wish we got more.
- Total # of accounts (we know 5 million copies sold, but how many are people who own 1 game only, and how many with multiple games linked?)
- Total # of bots banned (not including bans for EULA abuse, just the bots)
- Activity levels (max, min, and average players in a 24 hour period maybe)
- Total number of guilds (not including disbanded ones, just ones active)
- Total number of alliances (comparison between Kurzick and Luxon)
- Total number of PvP characters and PvE characters (would fluxuate due to deletion, but would be neat to see)
I'm glad we get stats, I just wish we got more.
Holly Herro
That's alot of gold Gaile..
Buy yourself a new set of shiny armor? :P
Buy yourself a new set of shiny armor? :P
FrAnt1c??
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Originally Posted by MagmaRed
Nice stats. I agree that we are weak on stats for the game though. Is it possible to have some sats released that people might be interested in? Ones I'm curious about, especially after seeing the stats like those are:
- Total # of accounts (we know 5 million copies sold, but how many are people who own 1 game only, and how many with multiple games linked?) - Total # of bots banned (not including bans for EULA abuse, just the bots) - Activity levels (max, min, and average players in a 24 hour period maybe) - Total number of guilds (not including disbanded ones, just ones active) - Total number of alliances (comparison between Kurzick and Luxon) - Total number of PvP characters and PvE characters (would fluxuate due to deletion, but would be neat to see) I'm glad we get stats, I just wish we got more. |
Solas
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Originally Posted by Nevin
.... You is not thinking straight my friend.
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.....it's a figure of speech-.-
On Topic- yeah i havn't been pm'd once by bots since the update
good call.
truemyths
wow
190 Million in gold!
So if you divide this by 100K lots, that's 1,902 lots... multiplied by 22 bucks per lot, then that's roughly 42 thousand dollars in real money that people spent to get that 190M.
One of the things I'm thinking is either it's really hard to make money selling gold, or that 190M is just a drop in the bucket. And when I see it as 190M I think to myself yeah, that would screw up the economy.
190 Million in gold!
So if you divide this by 100K lots, that's 1,902 lots... multiplied by 22 bucks per lot, then that's roughly 42 thousand dollars in real money that people spent to get that 190M.
One of the things I'm thinking is either it's really hard to make money selling gold, or that 190M is just a drop in the bucket. And when I see it as 190M I think to myself yeah, that would screw up the economy.
Master Knightfall
It's all well and nice, but, after 3 years I think it's a tad bit too late now. The economy is already ruined, prices have slumped to an all time low. Nobody is really buying anything anymore (I know I'm not) cause the game is old and many people already have what they want or need (you see them say this in almost every economy thread or how much ingame money do you make etc. etc.)
With hard mode one can play the newbie areas and get great drops of superior vigors, all the 15^50 inscriptions you want all the +20% ones you want and play them solo or with 2 or 3 heroes even. Perfect weapons galore. It's just not a "believeable" world anymore it's more of just a romper room online mmo anymore.
It was so much better in the beginning days when things really had value and people weren't exploiting the game all over the place (running through the content just to get some elite skills and max armor then coming back to newbieland and stomping through 3/4ths of the entire game without worry). When people didn't complain about your builds or laughed at others because they weren't like them or used MENDING. lol
The best days are already gone so even booting the gold sellers and botters around isn't doing anything, but, making those that love watching other people get into trouble happier and give them something to ewwww and ahhhhh about. And brown nose to Anet staff of course.
With hard mode one can play the newbie areas and get great drops of superior vigors, all the 15^50 inscriptions you want all the +20% ones you want and play them solo or with 2 or 3 heroes even. Perfect weapons galore. It's just not a "believeable" world anymore it's more of just a romper room online mmo anymore.
It was so much better in the beginning days when things really had value and people weren't exploiting the game all over the place (running through the content just to get some elite skills and max armor then coming back to newbieland and stomping through 3/4ths of the entire game without worry). When people didn't complain about your builds or laughed at others because they weren't like them or used MENDING. lol
The best days are already gone so even booting the gold sellers and botters around isn't doing anything, but, making those that love watching other people get into trouble happier and give them something to ewwww and ahhhhh about. And brown nose to Anet staff of course.
Ulterion
GG Anet. No more spamming. Prices will hopefully drop some. I just hope ya'll intend on changing, or even expunging, Loot-Scaling from the game so that players can enjoy the fruits of their farming labors. It's a shame that all the damage the botters, cheaters, dupers, exploiters, etc.'s dealt cannot be reverted. Nonetheless, it's progress. =]
Gli
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It's all well and nice, but, after 3 years I think it's a tad bit too late now.
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Whisper Evenstar
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Originally Posted by Gli
I don't think it's a stretch to assume that the introduction of a working anti-RTM/botting strategy in this game has much to do with the new one currently under development.
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GG Anet - keep it up!
Fates Cry
Gaile,
"Removed 190,200,000 purchased gold from 771 players"
Were theses 771 accounts banned?
I would hope so. I recall, a couple months ago, 117 players were banned for breaking the EULA.
Is gold buying not against the EULA?
"Removed 190,200,000 purchased gold from 771 players"
Were theses 771 accounts banned?
I would hope so. I recall, a couple months ago, 117 players were banned for breaking the EULA.
Is gold buying not against the EULA?
Siirius Black
Kudos for you anet.
Hopefully you will remove loot scaling now that the introduction of money (190,000,000) to the game would not be that much, and people will be able to earn their money with honest farming.
That's a lot of money confiscated !!! that would have gone into the GW economy.
Hopefully you will remove loot scaling now that the introduction of money (190,000,000) to the game would not be that much, and people will be able to earn their money with honest farming.
That's a lot of money confiscated !!! that would have gone into the GW economy.
Siirius Black
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Originally Posted by Fates Cry
Gaile,
"Removed 190,200,000 purchased gold from 771 players" Were theses 771 accounts banned? I would hope so. I recall, a couple months ago, 117 players were banned for breaking the EULA. Is gold buying not against the EULA? |
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i'm hella hung over and not about to look further into it to do the math, but i'm sure it would have been a nice take for someone.