Well,
the 117 players a couple months ago that got banned, got a permanent ban.
why only a 3 day ban?
If the 3 day ban is true.....this makes no sense...
Buying gold would be much more of a serious offence than exploiting the game.
My reasoning for this is...
Are the Gold sellers and Gold buyers not required to kick some sort of royalty back to Anet. I mean, it's there game, so it's, there Gold. If you sell "there" gold for a profit, wouldn't you think they would have to pay Anet a royalty?
So even tho the Gold sellers got banned.....they STILL made a huge profit.
as someone had posted earlier...somewhere in the area of 42,000 dollars...WOW!!
But the gold buyers get the gold stripped...and a 3 day ban?
so....why didn't the Mallyx exploiters get all gold and loot stripped and a 3 day ban?
Stats on RMT Actions
Fates Cry
Alex the Great
woo hoo anet!!
HawkofStorms
Excellent job.
And to paraphrase Monty Python and the Holy Grial "she's not quite dead yet." Good to see Gaile still around.
And to paraphrase Monty Python and the Holy Grial "she's not quite dead yet." Good to see Gaile still around.
Phineas
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Also, I don't think these 'stats' amount to much in the way of information. It's like when politicians produce stats to show themselves in a favourable light, making sure only the facts that they want to show are revealed.
Moral55
Still I've noticed an positive effect, no matter how I look at it.
Gaile Gray
Oh, and hey, on this topic. When we say we "removed" the gold, in truth we "destroyed" the gold. Something a player said to me last night made me think that there was this image of millions of "reclaimed" gold hidden away in some cyber vaults at ArenaNet. 
When we remove the gold, it's deleted from the game.
When we remove the gold, it's deleted from the game.
judgedread33
Gaile with most of the bots gone is there any way we can get rid of lootscaling.
I'm not ranting i just want to know if there is any hope in it making a disappearance.
I'm not ranting i just want to know if there is any hope in it making a disappearance.
Gaile Gray
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Gaile with most of the bots gone is there any way we can get rid of lootscaling.
I'm not ranting i just want to know if there is any hope in it making a disappearance. |
Lord Sojar
I have to say Gaile, bravo, bravo!
Now, give me ectos, or I will tell Jon Sharp and Izzy to tickle you.
That Xunlai Chest in Kaineng Center is awfully suspicious. Mind giving me the key? 
Now, give me ectos, or I will tell Jon Sharp and Izzy to tickle you.
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Oh, and hey, on this topic. When we say we "removed" the gold, in truth we "destroyed" the gold. Something a player said to me last night made me think that there was this image of millions of "reclaimed" gold hidden away in some cyber vaults at ArenaNet.
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Medic
no more PM's, so GG Anet. Also GG for banning Taiwan.
Commander Kanen
Its good that Anet finaly decided to take action... but this would have been alot better if it was put in place a couple years ago before the economy went down the loo...but still GG
Master Knightfall
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GG Anet. No more spamming. Prices will hopefully drop some. I just hope ya'll intend on changing, or even expunging, Loot-Scaling from the game so that players can enjoy the fruits of their farming labors. It's a shame that all the damage the botters, cheaters, dupers, exploiters, etc.'s dealt cannot be reverted. Nonetheless, it's progress. =]
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Woo
Lovely!
Thanks Anet!
Thanks Anet!
MrSlayer
190.2 million gold in 2 weeks? o_O Jesus..
Numa Pompilius
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Thanks Gaile, and relay my thanks to whomever did this!
EDIT: ...and I second Master Knightfalls suggestion above.
Commander Kanen
I agree more with Fates Cry .. Buying Gold is far worse than a game bug the 117 should have had there items removed and a 3 day ban.. Anet messed up with that one...however loot scaling wont be removed thats what HM is for end of !
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who knows how many things besides armbraces got duped?
not to mention a full 100 plat in inventory each time.
besides that buying the amount of gold they made in minutes is nothing.
also how about the literally thousands of people who traded honest high value items for free duped items............take thair armbraces also?
i hope Anet was not kidding when they said legal action was proceding against the exploiters
Commander Kanen
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a carefully exploited bug that had been going on for a long time until some stupid ashat got super greedy.
who knows how many things besides armbraces got duped? not to mention a full 100 plat in inventory each time. besides that buying the amount of gold they made in minutes is nothing. also how about the literally thousands of people who traded honest high value items for free duped items............take thair armbraces also? i hope Anet was not kidding when they said legal action was proceding against the exploiters |
You just answerd my point.. 1 duper could make more money in 10 mins than 117 people doing nothing else but the mallyx bug for 3 months solid. Anet knew people would find out about the bug i know of 15 people who reported it months before anything hapened about it... as i said anet was too harsh on them as they had no bannings for any of the other game bugs people exploited and 3 day ban for gold buyers is a joke. i also take it that its only recent gold buyers that got there gold taken from them. people have been selling gold from day one again anet knew about it and only just implomented a "fix" and because its alot more people than the mallyx bug anet couldnt ban them or 1/6 of the gw population would be gone.
I Is Special
Anyone know about how much gold is in the entire game atm? I'm curious to see how much 190 mill is compared to how much is in all of guildwars.
Longasc
And did anything change for you, did you notice a major price drop yet?
They got 771.
How many thousands did they NOT get?
Not really sorry to point out the negative sides, I still know two guys with duped items and large cash stocks that did not get banned. :>
They got 771.
How many thousands did they NOT get?
Not really sorry to point out the negative sides, I still know two guys with duped items and large cash stocks that did not get banned. :>
Ork Pride
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For those, like me, who enjoy a nice tidy bunch o' statistics, we have an interesting Dev Update today that provides data for the last couple of weeks. The update outlines the effectiveness of latest policy and practice enhancements for RMT-related activities.
Guild Wars players have expressed interest in learning how our actions in support of the recently expanded Real-Money Trading Policy have affected the game. We’d like to provide you with some facts and figures following the first two weeks of the new policy’s implementation. During the first two weeks, we did the following:
Head here for the Dev Update. |
Ulterion
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Oh here we go trying to turn yet another thread into a "remove loot scaling" thread. Moderators please keep these people on topic and send them to their one loot scale removal thread instead of hi-jacking every other one on here with their whines about loot scaling please.
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Get over it. It's just a frickin' post! *Hands Masterless Fall a baby bottle filled with milk.*
Ctb
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QQ.. onoz! This thread's going to hell?! Somebody call the waaambulance! /wrists!! Waahaaahaaa...! /////
Get over it. It's just a frickin' post! *Hands Masterless Fall a baby bottle filled with milk.* |
Your failure. It is epic.
CyberNigma
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You should have given it back to all the players who don't break the rules.
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w00t
HawkofStorms
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And did anything change for you, did you notice a major price drop yet?
They got 771. How many thousands did they NOT get? Not really sorry to point out the negative sides, I still know two guys with duped items and large cash stocks that did not get banned. :> |
I mean, what's the point of arresting murderers or drug dealers, murders are still going to happen and drugs will still be on the street right?
Idiots...
Albert Algorn
Sweet, I can go back to the Temple of Balthazar again and the whispers have stopped. Thanks for reclaiming the game!
Creeping Carl
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QQ.. onoz! This thread's going to hell?! Somebody call the waaambulance! /wrists!! Waahaaahaaa...! /////
Get over it. It's just a frickin' post! *Hands Masterless Fall a baby bottle filled with milk.* |
Ctb
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Wow. Just when I thought forum goers couldnt get any more childish.
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Ulterion
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Haha oh wow.
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Commander Kanen
I think alot of people on this thread need there posts removing and a 3 day ban... XD
lacasner
Imo, the reason that these stats were even made public is to just manipulate peoples thoughts about this. Nobody really knows the impact botters/dupers/gold sellers had on this economy.
The reason? Well, since it can be done, and since no one bothered to do it, I'll just say that no one really cared about it. Then again, this is nothing more than a product sold to us by a bussiness, and is by no means a service that needs to be maintained. I think people need to realize this before they immerse themselves in this game any more than just a little temporary entertainment source.
The reason? Well, since it can be done, and since no one bothered to do it, I'll just say that no one really cared about it. Then again, this is nothing more than a product sold to us by a bussiness, and is by no means a service that needs to be maintained. I think people need to realize this before they immerse themselves in this game any more than just a little temporary entertainment source.
Bront
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Oh, and hey, on this topic. When we say we "removed" the gold, in truth we "destroyed" the gold. Something a player said to me last night made me think that there was this image of millions of "reclaimed" gold hidden away in some cyber vaults at ArenaNet.
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Good job on the removal. I've noticed a decrease in spammers over the last few weeks, and that's a good thing.
As for the "Effect on the economy", beyond Ectos possibly going up in value a bit due to less gold to buy them, I don't think it will have any other real effect. That's likely a drop in the bucket in terms of money.
Musei Karasu
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I can imagine the next general assembly of the UBotMyMMO RMT company:
Boss: Ok what's up with the business guys? Chairman: They removed 90% of our botters in GW! Technical boss: Yep, and they banned our IP addresses. Chairman: And they're even bragging about their actions on fansites! Boss: What? You mean we can't parasite their game anymore? Technical boss: Oh, we'll find a way, we'll always be smarter (that's what fans say). Finance boss: Yes but we need money, fast and it needs to flow guys. Boss: We need to take action and take back the business that belongs to us! (violently hit the table and crunches the Gaile Gray doll) Jeff Strain (flying through the window of the 27th floor office): Ah ah! We pwned you RMTers, you shall now know the power of the bot-killer, in the name of the customer protection! |
I can imagine the following general meeting of the company of UBotMyMMO RMT:
Chief: Was a certain something recognized the business person? C
hairman: They removed the 90% of our botters of gigawatt!
Technical chief: It was, and prohibited their our IP addresses.
Chairman: And those are the uniform thing which you brag concerning the behavior of fansites!
Chief: What? Intermediate we the parasite their game is not possible anymore?
Technical chief: Well, rather than those which we say ventilate (always and) being we the smart you find the method of being.
Chief of public finance: If it is and but is fast our money, necessary the person it is necessary to flow.
Chief: It is necessary to take the business where we take disposal, belong to us! (To be extreme the collision table and the doll of gray of crunching Gaile)
tension of ジェフ (the flight which passes through the window of the office of the 27th floor): At the time of the ampere well! As for us being name of protection of the customer, power of the bot killer who now of RMTers has known, pwned!
because we all know the RMTers have rather broken Enrgish.
Fril Estelin
Very interestingly, the "other side" is also publishing some stats:
http://www.playnoevil.com/serendipit...s-winning.html
Slight increase in price from $6 to $8 in the February-April period apparently explained by holidays in China (strange!).
Most interestingly, it seems that MMO companies are failing to put obstacle in the way of RMT companies, as can be seen in Runescape and EQ2's legit RMT.
(comments on the article are both interesting and funny, particularly the hilarious message from an RMT employee...)
http://www.playnoevil.com/serendipit...s-winning.html
Slight increase in price from $6 to $8 in the February-April period apparently explained by holidays in China (strange!).
Most interestingly, it seems that MMO companies are failing to put obstacle in the way of RMT companies, as can be seen in Runescape and EQ2's legit RMT.
(comments on the article are both interesting and funny, particularly the hilarious message from an RMT employee...)
Abedeus
Guess what's even funnier? Poland's Ebay, allegro.pl, has created a category ,,guild wars'' so people can sell items/gold easier... Yet they don't allow illegal copies of games/music/films to be sold. What's the difference damn it? Does the fact that money is in game makes this money any worse? Or they choose laws for themselves? :O
Fril Estelin
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illegal copies of games/music/films to be sold. What's the difference damn it?
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manitoba1073
Fril dont you think its funny WoW is doing the exact opposite of GW and there gettig rid of RTM's faster.
Fril Estelin
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Fril dont you think its funny WoW is doing the exact opposite of GW and there gettig rid of RTM's faster.
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P.S.: anyone knows how much 50k GW gold compares to 300 Horde Gold in WoW? (RMT price says Wow's 300go is worth 3 times more than GW's 50k)?
Kashrlyyk
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1) If it was the case, I don't think it'd be funny as RMT is a plague (you probably didn't intend your sentence to sound like it's really funny, but I thought I'd say it anyway);
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2) I don't think it's the case that they're doing the opposite (both Anet and Blizzard made official announcements against RMT) and that Blizzard is more successful at tackling this issue (until further evidence).
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I noticed something...
Blizzard added "Daily Quests", which allow a high-end player to get about $5-$10 worth of gold every day w/o too much time investment. Anet added "keyless chests", which allow a high-end player get about <$1 worth of gold every couple of months. Blizzard > Anet? |
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P.S.: anyone knows how much 50k GW gold compares to 300 Horde Gold in WoW? (RMT price says Wow's 300go is worth 3 times more than GW's 50k)?
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MrSlayer
Pretty cool to see the stats...
Shame it appears that in the anet link about RMT, they've spelt it RTM (this is going off the links on the current in-game reminder message)
Shame it appears that in the anet link about RMT, they've spelt it RTM (this is going off the links on the current in-game reminder message)