honestly what was the point of the Anc Rage nerf?
aegis...why is this skill being changed after 3 years...isnt earshot enough of a kill?
Game Update Thursday April 17, 2008
kade
slowerpoke
ant yet another updating proving we need seperate skills sets in the various game modes
BlackSephir
And another farming build bites the dust!
VERY ANGRY SURPRISED FACE
I'm calling the waaaaahmbulance nao.
VERY ANGRY SURPRISED FACE
I'm calling the waaaaahmbulance nao.
Nude Nira
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/scarcasm for those that can't detect it.
RavagerOfDreams
o noes mah sins remedy!!!111!!!one!!1
Angelus...
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I don't see why all the paragon people are QQing. You guys first got tactics completely nerfed and because you are overabusing certain skill sets, you builds got nerfed.
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Nukey
I'll just use Blinding Flash
1 up and 2 down
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Most of the rit stuff was the effect they had on the GvG npcs.
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they dont affect things in gvg
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lrn2read
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I seriously hope you are joking...
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MarlinBackna
Not happy about continued Paragon nerfs....
The others are meh. Continued Ward nerfs got me worried too. Nobody will use them at all soon.
Are paragons really that much of a problem in GvG?
I swear, it will be a great day when we find in GW2 that PvE/PvP have separate skills sets....*looks to the sky
The others are meh. Continued Ward nerfs got me worried too. Nobody will use them at all soon.
Are paragons really that much of a problem in GvG?
I swear, it will be a great day when we find in GW2 that PvE/PvP have separate skills sets....*looks to the sky
VitisVinifera
if there ever was a series of nerfs which screams the most obvious conclusion, that pve and pvp need to be seperate, this is the one
sersiously, this is just a joke, and a parody of how ill-conceived gw is in general
sersiously, this is just a joke, and a parody of how ill-conceived gw is in general
FrAnt1c??
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Yes I was joking.
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Teambuilder gogogo, cant wait to test some ideas in gvg
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You Look Grim
lots and lots of nerfs to GVG.
shockwave spike = gg
shockwave spike = gg
Faer
Holy Skill Balance, Batman! Passive defense got slammed!
I'm so happy! ^____________^
Thought you were calling them utter crap already?
Did you miss the update a few months ago when they lowered it from 15e to 10e?
I'm so happy! ^____________^
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Wow I'm glad I killed off my Paragon months ago. They are utter crap now it seems.
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aegis...why is this skill being changed after 3 years...isnt earshot enough of a kill?
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Winterclaw
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Overabusing? There is no reason not to use it. Tell me you wouldn't use it too if you had a Paragon. Plus IMO, it was never overpowered anyway really.
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IlikeGW
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I dont understand what all the fuss about the para's is all about though
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jimmyboveto
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Wow I'm glad I killed off my Paragon months ago. They are utter crap now it seems.
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Ummm.... did anyone use those skills anyways? Well, for PvE I believe everyone does the standard SY imbagon now.
Also mad about the rit nerfs to splinter and ancestors.... guess splinter couldn't own too long without being nerfed though.
warcrap
omfg another build essential ele skill ruined ffs every time i find a new build at least one skill from it gets super-nerfed.
FrAnt1c??
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that it's not fun to play a prof that gets increasingly shoe-horned into smaller and smaller amount of viable builds?
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Gregslot
What is irritated me about this update is that now i have a "EXPAND YOUR WORLD WITH CHARACTER SLOTS" on my screen but its like i dont have to worry about getting titles for Gw2 with more than 2 characters.
Seriously, i hope the "rewards" for titles are account wide, i have 5 characters and i had to consider 4 of them dead because i kills me (and im sure everyone else) to get multitple titles for multitple characters (like vanquishing with 2 characters)
ufff....
Oh yea, and now i have to stop using my paragon hero ebcause he will heal at each 30 seconds..........yay!
Seriously, i hope the "rewards" for titles are account wide, i have 5 characters and i had to consider 4 of them dead because i kills me (and im sure everyone else) to get multitple titles for multitple characters (like vanquishing with 2 characters)
ufff....
Oh yea, and now i have to stop using my paragon hero ebcause he will heal at each 30 seconds..........yay!
mrmango
Calm down and find a new meta warcrap.
Div
they nurfed mi paragon again! damn pvperz
Crom The Pale
Looks like they really put a good effort into making changes that would only effect PvP without tearing at the PvE lovers.
Well done, keep it up!
Well done, keep it up!
kade
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Did you miss the update a few months ago when they lowered it from 15e to 10e?
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Zesbeer
if there going to neff rit sprits that help they might as well do it for ranger sprits as well.
MisterT69
OK seriously, wat the hell. Who on God's green earth is gonna use death pact signet anymore. Every update, they add another second to the casting time. And aegis, wow, great "balancing" there. And GoC, 1 spell, seriously anet?
R.I.P paragons
R.I.P paragons
aleaf92
so bad......
MisterT69 para's wont RIP b/c there is something called Imbagon.
MisterT69 para's wont RIP b/c there is something called Imbagon.
FrAnt1c??
I'm most upset about Aegis I guess, a nerf was, in my opinion not needed as the skill was kind of balanced atm. But Aegis AND the ward vs melee nerf makes it baed... Cant get over it....
MisterT69
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so bad......
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R.I.P SoR paras in PVP
Teh [prefession]-zorz
ouchhh to all except mesmer xD
Darmikau
GG Anet. You take the still great Paragon defensive skills and nerf them almost to the point where they're unusable, and then have the audacity to not even buff any skills. Nerf nerf nerf nerf, when will Paragons get a desperately deserved defensive BUFF?
Shayne Hawke
I was wondering where our Thursday nerf had gone.
I'll be looking on the Developer Update page of the wiki later to see why GW has gotten so bad.
I'll be looking on the Developer Update page of the wiki later to see why GW has gotten so bad.
Faer
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the new ones that are unbalancing them should...
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Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be AFK praying for the old LoD to magically appear.
Age
This update may have hurt one of my farming builds using Shockwave but it seems that GoLE won't be so usefull on a Monks bars.I would tell them if they are going to increase Aegis to 15 agian make it out side of an earshot like it use to be.I will have to judge the rest later and am glad I didn't buy disarm yet.
RhanoctJocosa
omg they nerfed by bsurge bild wgtf do i do now with my ele usless.... i qyuti
eudas
Well, this is my feedback on those changes.
boo! this was much more useful to other classes (and specifically warriors) as a non-stance. before it was made into Skill, i never used it. afterward, i incorporated it into more builds because it was nice to have hex-avoidance that wouldn't cancel my IAS stances (and vice versa).
i actually thought that was a good innovation. i'm sad to see it go.
as if the death pact wasn't bad enough, then you made it 3sec to match res sig, and now you're nerfing it into oblivion? not to mention that it's linked to restoration magic. meh.
wth? i've played paragon, i'm familiar with these skills -- and that's a horrible nerf to core motivation skills. 20 sec wasn't great, but we could work with it due to some overlaps of functionality, but 30 sec is going to seriously damage their usefulness. looks like an overnerf to me.
Overall, I dislike the overnerf aspect, and what I feel is an overly gvg/pvp focused outlook of these changes.
Eudas
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Overall, I dislike the overnerf aspect, and what I feel is an overly gvg/pvp focused outlook of these changes.
Eudas
Cyb3r
Faer the big problem is
fact 1 there are way to much skills
fact 2 some things have gotten completely useless, Air magic was allready a piece of junk in both PVE and PVP (Rit spike's alot better than an air magic ele (which i thought was the idea behind Air Magic))
but it has gotten nerfed even more air magic is close to becoming a dead line in both areas of the game, i haven't played pvp for a while but i'm sure if i enter with my ele it won't be an air ele, Bsurge is out of the window, air spiking was out of the window ages ago
And the big problem is pvp and pve skills should have been separated in my opinion ages ago or don't give pve things such high armor (there are enough solutions but i'll wait till gw2 to see if anything has changed if not i'll stick to gw1)
And i agree on getting the total defense line out of the way in gvg, but there is a difference between fixing a broken thing or completely making it utter useless (look at ether renewal, it's an elite that's not even worth paying the 1 plat for to get the cap sig, heck not even with an elite tome it's justified)
And not ranting just trying to point out some things and discuss where things could be improved, cause nothing is perfect untill proven otherwhise
fact 1 there are way to much skills
fact 2 some things have gotten completely useless, Air magic was allready a piece of junk in both PVE and PVP (Rit spike's alot better than an air magic ele (which i thought was the idea behind Air Magic))
but it has gotten nerfed even more air magic is close to becoming a dead line in both areas of the game, i haven't played pvp for a while but i'm sure if i enter with my ele it won't be an air ele, Bsurge is out of the window, air spiking was out of the window ages ago
And the big problem is pvp and pve skills should have been separated in my opinion ages ago or don't give pve things such high armor (there are enough solutions but i'll wait till gw2 to see if anything has changed if not i'll stick to gw1)
And i agree on getting the total defense line out of the way in gvg, but there is a difference between fixing a broken thing or completely making it utter useless (look at ether renewal, it's an elite that's not even worth paying the 1 plat for to get the cap sig, heck not even with an elite tome it's justified)
And not ranting just trying to point out some things and discuss where things could be improved, cause nothing is perfect untill proven otherwhise
hallomik
• Glyph of Concentration: decreased number of spells affected to 1.
E/A HM raptor farming just got a bit more challenging.
E/A HM raptor farming just got a bit more challenging.
Master Ketsu
Izzy really needs to understand that buffs are what is needed now, not nerfs. By nerfing things over and over again people will simply shift upwards causing the meta to become even more stagnant.
Lest121
If I could Change the name of my Paragon, I would Name it MULE#3.
Age
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Faer the big problem is
fact 1 there are way to much skills fact 2 some things have gotten completely useless, Air magic was allready a piece of junk in both PVE and PVP (Rit spike's alot better than an air magic ele (which i thought was the idea behind Air Magic)) but it has gotten nerfed even more air magic is close to becoming a dead line in both areas of the game, i haven't played pvp for a while but i'm sure if i enter with my ele it won't be an air ele, Bsurge is out of the window, air spiking was out of the window ages ago |