Fire Element Overpowered

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BroodingEvil
Pre-Searing Cadet
#21
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Originally Posted by milkflopance
Warriors can deal more damage to single targets than fire eles. Clearly they need a nerf too.
Now that is a load of crap if I ever heard one. Warriors are the red-headed stepchild of guild wars. If you try to go all out attack with a warrior, you're likely going to hit the ground before you hit your enemy.
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
#22
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Originally Posted by BroodingEvil
Now that is a load of crap if I ever heard one. Warriors are the red-headed stepchild of guild wars. If you try to go all out attack with a warrior, you're likely going to hit the ground before you hit your enemy.
The more I find clueless idiots like you are posting, the more I lose faith in the community.
It's been backed up several times.

Infact, maybe I should dig up Ensign's "Why Nuking Sucks" thread.
And infact, that thread's info is still viable...

I can has backup statement?
Proff
Proff
Jungle Guide
#23
Monks don't deal a lot of damage does that mean they're useless and should be replaced by fire eles? Each element has it's use just like each profession has it's as well.
JR
JR
Re:tired
#24
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Originally Posted by BroodingEvil
Now that is a load of crap if I ever heard one. Warriors are the red-headed stepchild of guild wars. If you try to go all out attack with a warrior, you're likely going to hit the ground before you hit your enemy.
Are you playing the same game as the rest of us?
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milan
Desert Nomad
#25
Fire builds are generally simple 1,2,3,4,5 fire and forget scenarios while the other elements generally require at least a little thought.

With that little amount of thought I can outdamage fire with an air ele no problem.
Stormlord Alex
Stormlord Alex
Grotto Attendant
#26
This thread is full of silly people.
The OP thinks that burning is stronger than KD (rofl) - surely that should've been a threadlock right there...?

lol @ BroodingEvil. Just lol.
RPGmaniac
RPGmaniac
Desert Nomad
#27
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Originally Posted by BroodingEvil
Now that is a load of crap if I ever heard one. Warriors are the red-headed stepchild of guild wars. If you try to go all out attack with a warrior, you're likely going to hit the ground before you hit your enemy.
You don't need 8 attack skills to achieve great DPS. For a warrior, auto attacking alone is decent DPS assuming you have 14 weapon mastery (which is optimal for warriors anyway).

Back to the OP: there are only a couple of skills that are spammable that cause burning. One is searing flames, which is elite and pretty energy intensive without glowing gaze and an attunement. The other is immolate, which is decent but there are better skills out there. There's also mind burn, but if you try to spam that you'll tear through your energy in no time due to exhaustion.
Stormlord Alex
Stormlord Alex
Grotto Attendant
#28
And for what it's worth - you will see 99% of eles in AB as Fire because Fire is very good at blowing up Shrines and idiots. There's a large amount of both to be killed in AB, therefore Fire is a good element to play.

Fire, however, is in no way overpowered - basic positioning and kiting will neuter a lot of a Fire guy's damage, and any kind of interrupt or spell hate will leave him helpless. Fire is only dangerous if you're bad.
Randvek
Randvek
Krytan Explorer
#29
Fire is pretty powerful, we'll grant you that. But it's balanced by the fact that Fire can't really do anything but deal damage. No utility.

If you have a problem with Fire Elementalists, reconsider your build.
angmar_nite
angmar_nite
Jungle Guide
#30
The only thing good about fire in high end pve is Mind blast and rodgort's invocation and by extension fire attunement. Ward against Melee, Foes, Deep Freeze, Blinding flash, gale, are all far more useful than most fire spells.

And rofl and broodingevil.
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BroodingEvil
Pre-Searing Cadet
#31
RPGmaniac, have you ever heard of mark of rodgort?

Stormlord Alex, have you ever been in a meteor shower? Am I bad for being knocked down every three seconds and subsequently hammered with damage?
Squishy ftw
Squishy ftw
Desert Nomad
#32
you can like..you know.. get the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO out of the meteor shower ?

you can also see the meteor shower comming? those big rocks falling out of the sky?

get out when you see that..
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magicman117
Pre-Searing Cadet
#33
Not only does earths special of knock down occur with earth magic, But fire can knock down too! YAY
Alex the Great
Alex the Great
Jungle Guide
#34
warriors- more damage
sins- more damage (even with the nerfs)
rangers- *insert elite skill that gives condition*+ apply poison+ interupts= better

other classes- too lazy, so lets skip to the good part

fire- aoe damage, burning (burning is not that debilitating, the poblem is in ab you probably dont have a monk)

earth- makes you invinicible, party support

air- only element i ever run if i play Ab. full on melee shutdown, and sweet single target damage

water- ahhhh water sucks, i mean, who cares if they can't hit anything and cant move?



Quote:
Originally Posted by BroodingEvil
Now that is a load of crap if I ever heard one. Warriors are the red-headed stepchild of guild wars. If you try to go all out attack with a warrior, you're likely going to hit the ground before you hit your enemy.
jesus, do i have to explain this to everyone!!! I had to take a guildy to the master of damage, and with Dslash i did more dps than arcane echoed sandstorms. warriors do the most damage, becasue even though you MAY see high numbers on an ele, spells take time to cast, and have recharge times so dmage isnt constant. warriors can spam attacks, which add armour ignoring damage
angmar_nite
angmar_nite
Jungle Guide
#35
Do you want to stand in the same spot for 5 seconds waiting for damage and knockdown?? Furthermore, armor unignoring damage = bad damage in High end pve.
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OSUJay
Guest
#36
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Originally Posted by BroodingEvil
RPGmaniac, have you ever heard of mark of rodgort?

Stormlord Alex, have you ever been in a meteor shower? Am I bad for being knocked down every three seconds and subsequently hammered with damage?
Yeah we've all been in them, the difference between us and you though is we moved out of them and you stood there.
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Teutonic Paladin
Wilds Pathfinder
#37
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Originally Posted by BroodingEvil
RPGmaniac, have you ever heard of mark of rodgort?

Stormlord Alex, have you ever been in a meteor shower? Am I bad for being knocked down every three seconds and subsequently hammered with damage?
It takes me about two seconds to run from one side of a meteor shower to the other, far less if I'm standing in the middle. How long does it take you?
RPGmaniac
RPGmaniac
Desert Nomad
#38
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Originally Posted by BroodingEvil
RPGmaniac, have you ever heard of mark of rodgort?

Stormlord Alex, have you ever been in a meteor shower? Am I bad for being knocked down every three seconds and subsequently hammered with damage?
BroodingEvil, have you ever heard of: Remove Hex, Cure Hex, Divert Hexes, Holy Veil, or Deny Hexes?

Also, your character has these things called "legs". They allow you to move out of the way of AoEs. Try using them.
Stormlord Alex
Stormlord Alex
Grotto Attendant
#39
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Originally Posted by BroodingEvil
Stormlord Alex, have you ever been in a meteor shower?
I learned to press Q and E a long time ago.
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Am I bad for being knocked down every three seconds and subsequently hammered with damage?
Yes. Yes you are.
Jam Jar
Jam Jar
Krytan Explorer
#40
You've got to take in the fact that Ele's have low armor . Add in the fact that going /E is gimmicky, and you've got a squishy target .