There are a shortage of monks in the Hell's Precipice mission. I have a monk. Is it wrong to change a party some amount of gold to go through the mission with them?
i am broke and could use the $$ and parties need monks.
Monks in Hell's Precipice
morimoto
Moloch Vein
If any group is bad enough to not be able to do that mission with hench monks they deserve to be ripped off.
Jetdoc
Nope - it's the equivalent of being a runner, IMO. We saw the same thing at Thunderhead Keep way back when before heroes.
Beeb beeb
You can easily do that mission with hero monks. Or maybe even Mhenlo and Lina.
Dr Strangelove
If you can find someone to give you the money, it's not wrong.
However, the mission is easy enough that hench monks will do, even in hard mode. Monking for a team where those aren't enough sounds like an exercise in frustration.
However, the mission is easy enough that hench monks will do, even in hard mode. Monking for a team where those aren't enough sounds like an exercise in frustration.
X Silent Embrace X
To be honest i think you'll find a severe lack of people willing to pay for the mission. Plenty of monks doing Hells that arent charging, as they also want some of the new skins.
Ctb
Go nuts. If they need a monk and can't manage the hench, they'll pay.
Leighwyn
I feel like I just took a time machine back to 2005 with this thread! At least we know that everything is as it was before, regardless of all the changes in the game since 
Navaros
I agree with Moloch. If they are so bad that they cannot do such a mission with H/H, then they would in effect be greatly leeching off of any monk who has the misfortune to join their party. Therefore any fee charged by the monk to put up with a party of such players would be more than reasonable.
From the monk's shoes, doing the mission with them would probably would not even worth the money for the monk that he will be paid to let them leech off of him. A monk who helps them and gets paid, is still doing a very generous service to them, and the monk is getting ripped off, not the bad PUGers.
From the monk's shoes, doing the mission with them would probably would not even worth the money for the monk that he will be paid to let them leech off of him. A monk who helps them and gets paid, is still doing a very generous service to them, and the monk is getting ripped off, not the bad PUGers.
Olim Chill
Remember that key skills like [protective spirit] & [extinguish] can be brought along and effectively used by /Mo players.
Yeah, henchie monks are certainly good enough.
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Originally Posted by Moloch Vein
If any group is bad enough to not be able to do that mission with hench monks they deserve to be ripped off.
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Painbringer
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Originally Posted by Beeb beeb
You can easily do that mission with hero monks. Or maybe even Mhenlo and Lina.
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Stranger The Ranger
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Originally Posted by morimoto
There are a shortage of monks in the Hell's Precipice mission. I have a monk. Is it wrong to change a party some amount of gold to go through the mission with them?
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You're a Monk, not a prostitute
Sir Pandra Pierva
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i remember when monks would charge in guildwars i am glad those days are beyond dead.
but if the pug is too stupid to know how to use henchmen. They deserve to be charged
Trvth Jvstice
Yes I remember the Monks strike in THK. And a few monks charging - though I usually advertised to Monk for free just to piss them off.
I no problem using Ogden with 2 condition removals - an all interrupt Gwen - a support/dmg paragon hero - Lina, Mhenlo, Cynn and Little Thom - Me a D Slash Warrior spamming SY when needed.
I no problem using Ogden with 2 condition removals - an all interrupt Gwen - a support/dmg paragon hero - Lina, Mhenlo, Cynn and Little Thom - Me a D Slash Warrior spamming SY when needed.
Taisayacho
If you can actually get people to pay you to join them, go for it I say. I just h&h'ed the mission today, anyone should be able to :P
CagedinSanity
I did the run twice with guildies/allies. We used two hero monks.
We did fine.
Normal mode, mind you.
We did fine.
Normal mode, mind you.
WarKaster
I always use Mhenlo and Lina never had a problem did it with my dervish last night even.
But to answer your question...if there are people willing to pay for the service your offering that's entirely up to them..i don't see a problem with it.
But to answer your question...if there are people willing to pay for the service your offering that's entirely up to them..i don't see a problem with it.
Winterclaw
If you have another char, you can probably make money easier. Likewise there are probably easish farms you can do with your monk.
Turtle222
its easy peasy lemon squeasy
Arduin
You ought to pay me for killing all those monsters.
Lyphen
Pay me because I look good.
No, I'm an escort, not a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO!
No, I'm an escort, not a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO!
MithranArkanere
If they are willing to pay you, it's fine as long as you do the job correctly.
If you take the money and leave, or you are a bad monk, they it's not ok.
If you take the money and leave, or you are a bad monk, they it's not ok.
Age
I don't haved a problem with this as with MithranArkanere said you play it right and don't leave.I never had problem lastnight with my Ranger got 2 good ones to.Monks are very weary of the quality of players today as opossed to 2005.
xshadowwolfx
I made a monk due to shortage and found out that I like playing it alot, its my main now.
Shortage? Yea well most ppl like killing over healing so meh can't be helped. If you pay its your own deal thingy and isn't really right or wrong. I personally don't take money for help, but yea I don't enjoy being stuck with morons whoo aggro everything and run crap builds and still blame EVERYTHING on me.
Shortage? Yea well most ppl like killing over healing so meh can't be helped. If you pay its your own deal thingy and isn't really right or wrong. I personally don't take money for help, but yea I don't enjoy being stuck with morons whoo aggro everything and run crap builds and still blame EVERYTHING on me.
R_Frost
if a group of 6 cant beat hells with the 2 henchie monks or 2 hero monks, they need to slow down or uninstall the game.
KamikazeChicken
I stood in Hell's Precipice for a good 5 minutes half afk without a single group trying to invite me. I doubt there's that much of a shortage, especially with heroes being a viable alternative to humans. It's not like NM Hell's Precipice is difficult. :\
TheLordOfBlah
Sure you can charge for it, however you better hope there are NO other monks, and you better be damn good at it because heroes are pretty decent in an easy mission like that one...
Pandora's box
If you want to charge, good luck! a hero/hench team can do the mission without much problems, only a little patience is needed for aggroing and taking out the prince's minions first and after that the lich's helpers first (twice).
Zinger314
I spammed for ten minutes trying to find a group with my Monk for HP. NO INVITES WHATSOEVER. The only people looking for Monks were Ursanways...
BlackSephir
If people are ok with it, it's cool. Just don't ragequit ~~
Parson Brown
I did it in hard mode with hench monks last night with little problem. The only thing remotely tricky is when there's mobs with 3 sparks.
The only thing that cheesed me off is that I managed to aggro the boss as I was trying to sneak around the corner to activate the bonus and the Seer ended up dead.
But as for the OP's question, if someone wants to pay, who are you to say no.
(just make sure to offer a double money-back guarantee of success!)
The only thing that cheesed me off is that I managed to aggro the boss as I was trying to sneak around the corner to activate the bonus and the Seer ended up dead.
But as for the OP's question, if someone wants to pay, who are you to say no.
(just make sure to offer a double money-back guarantee of success!)
Dr Strangelove
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I spammed for ten minutes trying to find a group with my Monk for HP. NO INVITES WHATSOEVER. The only people looking for Monks were Ursanways...
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I can sort of understand being bad at the game and using it as a crutch to beat the elite missions, but it just seems silly to use it for easy stuff.
Navaros
The reason PUGs only Ursan is because if they do anything other than Ursan it would take a million times longer and result in an absymally awful party comprised of players with ludicrous skillbars. H/H is still way faster and better than Ursan PUGs.
But if one is going to PUG, doing anything other than Ursan is a really bad idea. In fact, it's so bad of an idea that that's what killed PUGs completely dead in the first place. Until Ursan came. Going back to pre-Ursan quality PUGs would be a terrible downgrade. Actively seeking to join a PUG like that is insane IMO.
But if one is going to PUG, doing anything other than Ursan is a really bad idea. In fact, it's so bad of an idea that that's what killed PUGs completely dead in the first place. Until Ursan came. Going back to pre-Ursan quality PUGs would be a terrible downgrade. Actively seeking to join a PUG like that is insane IMO.
Admael
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i remember when monks would charge in guildwars i am glad those days are beyond dead. but if the pug is too stupid to know how to use henchmen. They deserve to be charged |
kobey
I tried puging that mission for some fun. There were 2 ursans in my group and the others were normal classes (SS, D-slash: me, monks). Well either the 2 ursans were really in a rush, or they forgot how to play the game. They were rushing all the way, EVEN at places where we need to stop to let the titans past through. And guess what, they blamed it on the others for not moving fast enough.
Perhaps they forgot how to play the game the non-ursan way.
Perhaps they forgot how to play the game the non-ursan way.
strcpy
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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice
Yes I remember the Monks strike in THK. And a few monks charging
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It's within the game mechanics so it isn't "wrong" per se. However I would find it fairly unethical (you are simply a team member, it's not like are running the mission) but that seems to stop few people even when dealing with you face to face let alone in a video game. Since it is a matter of ethics that is your choice if it is wrong or not. Since there are now better alternatives I doubt you will get many takers - even back when they only had hench those monk "services" didn't get used much.
kobey
If the monk is doing so much in the group to the extend to being indispensible, then go ahead and charge. But I doubt the group can afford to pay anything worth your time.
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Admael
I remember when they charged and weren't very good at monking either.
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Aera Lure
No need to charge to monk a normal mode mission. Used to use healer henchmen when my warrior went through it alone and that wasnt a problem. I cant even begin to imagine a team that cant do it with heroes, so all you'll do is encourage that. Would actually be nice to see teams of players doing it imho.
Heroes did kill PUGs. The monk strike had nothing to do with that.
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Originally Posted by strcpy
I recall those days too - and people say heroes killed PUGs.
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cthulhu reborn
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There is nothing wrong with making some money. If people feel they need a real monk instead of a henchie and are willing to pay for it, then go for it. They are paying you for your skills, you're not selling your body...again this was one of the dumbest comments ever.