Update - Thursday, May 8, 2008

rohara

rohara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Rt/

guess i'm alone on this one...i think its cool gives me a reason to use my keys rather than just immediately go to balth and hock them.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by [DE]
This title track made me cry. If anything the emotes should be for the KoaBD title track, not a money sink
For like the 5th time today, this title is NOT a money sink. Money sinks remove income from the game, not transfer it to other players.

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

Holy enormous second update... 5 megs

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

Uh oh what did they do?

Gattocheese

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

New Mexico

GWEN

Two reasons

1. GW is getting boring

2. The economy needs another killer money sink


These titles are Anets only course of (easy to do) action to provide endgame content. Instead of giving us a new found hard ars dungeon to explore, they create a title that takes a lot of time and money for a GW player. A dungeon or more content would require taking too many human resources away from GW2, instead a few people can create an emote fairly quickly and add some code for a title track.

Lucky for me i dont title farm because i find it a stupid excuse for endgame content.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

One of the odder updates in recent history. And this is an ENORMOUS money sink.

2nd update just ruined some nice GvGing - better have an excellent reason

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

Quote:
Uh oh what did they do?
My first thought was somebody was already exploiting something regarding the new title, but with an update that size, there's probably some graphics in it. Maybe they just had a problem with the emotes or something.

Celestial_Kitsune

Celestial_Kitsune

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
2nd update just ruined some nice GvGing - better have an excellent reason
Update #2 - Thursday, May 8, 2008
Bug Fixes

* Fixed a crash bug.

Miscellaneous

* Corrected an issue with the Guild Wars updater. When you restart Guild Wars, the gray splash screen may appear an extra time. This is normal and will not recur after the update is applied.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial_Kitsune
Update #2 - Thursday, May 8, 2008
Bug Fixes

* Fixed a crash bug.

Miscellaneous

* Corrected an issue with the Guild Wars updater. When you restart Guild Wars, the gray splash screen may appear an extra time. This is normal and will not recur after the update is applied.
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at least they fixed a bug...

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
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at least they fixed a bug...
Heh.. yea, but it was probably added in with the code from the ztitle update

Angelica

Angelica

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Aussie land

Me/E

I really don't care anymore!

Fates

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kanuckistan

Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

R/

I am amazed at how many people are calling this a money sink. This does not remove any money from the game, it just redistributes it. Money sinks remove money from the game. All armour, for example, are a money sinks. They actually remove money from the game.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

"fixed a bug" ...

Aint that a cute update log filler
"Something got nerfed but you're too busy with new Z-sh*t to see it now"
is more like it

j/k, that was a funny entry anyway

jammerpa

jammerpa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Sunny FLA

Omega Knights

N/Me

For those that haven't seen it, the new tonic is very kewl!

Turbobusa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

By the Luxon Scavenger

The Mentalists [THPK]

N/

I don't see what's wrong with the update.
What bothers you about the new title if it's a pain to max?
And players have been asking for another emote title for months now.

I never thougth Andrew Patrick was so true when he said that you only see the angry players on forums, and never have/nearly have none positive feedback because those are playing the game.

MStarfire

MStarfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

[SOS]

Rt/

This is more of a time sink/bad decision.

Sniper22

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wow, so now I'm gonna get ranked by a bunch of noobs who bought their keys? If anything they should have at least made it so you can't sell keys to other players. Bad was to gain this title. It should show only pvp skill, but thats not the case here.

Ec]-[oMaN

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

Time to make use of those 1600+ RP's.

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

Bambi is no longer such a mickey mouse emote, THIS IS IN IT'S ENTIRITY.

Yoshikuni Mahsu

Yoshikuni Mahsu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

Is it bad that the only thing about this update that remotly interests me is the dwaynas sorrow hero AI update?

The Meth

The Meth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fates Monk
I am amazed at how many people are calling this a money sink. This does not remove any money from the game, it just redistributes it. Money sinks remove money from the game. All armour, for example, are a money sinks. They actually remove money from the game.
That is a money sink from Anet's point of view, but from a players point of view you can define anything that costs money is a money sink.

Jamison0071

Jamison0071

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Melbourne, Australia

Morporkian Mercenaries

N/Me

Don't affect me too much, but atleast I'll make more profit off selling keys :-)
The new tonics look like fun though. Monster filled Kamadan FTW!

OOshadeOO

OOshadeOO

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

UK

Stop Stealing[agro]

W/A

i wonder why the new consumable/key titles added dont count the ones already used before the title was made. i think it was managed when the gladiator rank was changed a while back(eg added all the 5 wins points to the title so some people found they had more glad points that before)
just wondered why it was able to update for that and it doesnt do it for the party animal and zaishen chests:|

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by OOshadeOO
i wonder why the new consumable/key titles added dont count the ones already used before the title was made. i think it was managed when the gladiator rank was changed a while back(eg added all the 5 wins points to the title so some people found they had more glad points that before)
just wondered why it was able to update for that and it doesnt do it for the party animal and zaishen chests:|
The gladiator rank was converted based on your previous rank. They weren't recording how many chests you opened since they added it so they can't do the same.

OOshadeOO

OOshadeOO

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

UK

Stop Stealing[agro]

W/A

didnt the update add all the 5 win points(1 to title) to the total :S i thaught it did

novawhiz

novawhiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

A/

sigh....of all the titles they could have given a new emote to it was to another money sink title. ah well that anet fer ya

Gregslot

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Meth
That is a money sink from Anet's point of view, but from a players point of view you can define anything that costs money is a money sink.
You are forgetting one thing my friend, zaishen keys CAN give a huge ammount of money back.
Imagine yourself getting a everlasting tonic? How much would people pay? 100k +100 ectos? Isnt that worth it?
Renewing the everlasting tonics will give us each month a new way to keep that high price for THE NEW everlasting tonic just going up and up. So this way theres allways going to be something worth getting there.
So you can say this is most likely a gamblers title or a hardcore pvp title (getting 4500 at GvGs is worth 900 keys at the title).
This way you can play pvp and get some awsome gold/reward. If you want to.

So what is someone shoves an emote in my face! The least ill say is "ok, you stay here and ill have sex with my girlfriend, brb".
Life > no-life

I wont be making use of this anyways, i like the casual pve/pvp thing.
I wish they could improve much more the assassins AI, like using their attacks more frequently would be a good start. (acutally the melee in general)
I made a post about the assassin's AI, but like usual, people dont bother saying something about it to get it done and just like to complain, wanting things to fall from the sky into their hands and be treated like kings (also known as spoiled).
Some things i posted and i bet some of you never even considered on saying something:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10284956
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10279810
Guess what Andrew Patrick said is true.

note: do not need to post something on those threads, i just used them as an example to prove my point

OOshadeOO

OOshadeOO

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

UK

Stop Stealing[agro]

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregslot

So what is someone shoves an emote in my face! The least ill say is "ok, you stay here and ill have sex with my girlfriend, brb".
rofl xD i thaught that was funny

itznitro

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

We are your friends

R/

... This update must be a belated April Fools... Right?

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmoon
So intead of making emotes for KoaBD which you can not buy( yes u can buy a few of the titles, but not all), they add this buy a emote title. Why is Pvp getting any more rewards. Only thing i can see how fix this is to allow people to trade in skill points for Zkeys.
I like that idea

Rampager

Rampager

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Australia

Mo/

how many days until someone has bought the title?

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rampager
how many days until someone has bought the title?
How long will it take to buy all the keys and then open the chest 20,000 times? A very long time...

Rampager

Rampager

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Australia

Mo/

ill give it 5 days then

Yuhe Ji

Yuhe Ji

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Los Angeles

E/

Kinda a pointless title. Now they're rewarding people for opening some chest and even giving them an emote to spam for opening those chests! But I really want to know, why the emotes?

[DE]

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuhe Ji
Kinda a pointless title. Now they're rewarding people for opening some chest and even giving them an emote to spam for opening those chests! But I really want to know, why the emotes?
Emotes make you cool. And some of the PvE community has been begging for their own emote since the prophecy only days. It's funny how people finally got their wish but it was so badly implemented it's disliked by most.

The Red Messenger

The Red Messenger

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

America

It's a lot like treasure hunter title: the keys cost twice as much as lockpicks, but the chest is a lot easier to find.

ANET needs ways to keep people from getting too bored undil GW2.

This was aimed at getting more people into PVP, which is a good thing imo.

The fact that you can purchase another title is bad...it definately should have been aimed towards actual pvp, like balth faction gained or something.

My predictions: Z keys will cost 3k again soon enough, and the GW player base will reduce slightly from lack of interest. If they think updating with gold sinks that dont change gameplay at all is going to keep players interested...GTA4 ftw

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

LOL at money title.

I'm selling off all my keys. Yay for more nonelite tomes.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Covah
ROFL ROFL!!!

*When you use a Zaishen Key on a Zaishen Chest, you get 5 Zaishen Reputation Points.

Thats over 20k Z keys to max the title. @ 2.5k each thats over 50 mill.
I hurd theres a way to get z keys other then buying them.

I've actually been making a lot of money selling keys, shall i keep selling or try for a lame emote. And wow key prices have shot up to 5k ><, theres your answer.

Altho this finally could prove the end of the 'im gna report you for ranking my corpse' whiners, now anet are condoning it ;p

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elnai
Learn to retroactive titles
Good luck with that, they still haven't done it for the Kurzick/Luxon titles (they owe me 150,000+ points in the Luxon title and a little under 100,000 in the Kurzick one, dammit!)...

You Look Grim

You Look Grim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

Ecnegilletni Laicifitra [朔mud]

i just spend 40 keys on that chest.
i regret it and should've kept the 200k i could
have made selling the keys.