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Originally Posted by ¿Evan¿
The pvp titles are the best, the other ones are just pve noob titles that don't mean anything.
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the most prestigious title?
Thierry2
Slabby
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Originally Posted by ¿Evan¿
The pvp titles are the best, the other ones are just pve noob titles that don't mean anything.
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cthulhu reborn
The idea that PvP requires so much more skill than PvE is entirely overrated and exaggerated especially having played more PvP lately I see no noticeable skill that impresses me.
Bottom line is that there are tricks for most titles anyway, PvE or PvP, so the whole PvP vs PvE thing is pointless to bring up yet again. Get over it.
Bottom line is that there are tricks for most titles anyway, PvE or PvP, so the whole PvP vs PvE thing is pointless to bring up yet again. Get over it.
carnage-runner
Treasure Hunter...
Legendary Gaurdian..
High rank PVP like Hero and Glad.
Legendary Vanq
God among Mere Mortals.. Seen 1. Basically that is as good as it gets. You see that and you know someone has invested most likely "too much time into GW" Or they are very rich. The one I saw was the latter of the two.
Obviously though Multi Maxed titles are where it's at now a days. No one cares for solitary Maxed titles anymore. But who's really impressed anyways?
It's just some words from some movie that were very meaningless in the scene.
Legendary Gaurdian..
High rank PVP like Hero and Glad.
Legendary Vanq
God among Mere Mortals.. Seen 1. Basically that is as good as it gets. You see that and you know someone has invested most likely "too much time into GW" Or they are very rich. The one I saw was the latter of the two.
Obviously though Multi Maxed titles are where it's at now a days. No one cares for solitary Maxed titles anymore. But who's really impressed anyways?
It's just some words from some movie that were very meaningless in the scene.
Esan
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Originally Posted by Thierry2
lolz ..and why are they just noob titles? have you ever tried getting them yourself?
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The Way Out
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Originally Posted by romeus petrus
You need to actually win 5 battles in a row to get a glad point. Im not defending the Glad title, it is probably easier to get than other PvP titles. Yet, it does involve at least some skill needed to win 5 battles in a row against human players. PvE title grinding invollves no skill to mention.
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romeus petrus
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Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
so beore ye moan about pve being easy take a look at pvp.
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The Way Out
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Originally Posted by romeus petrus
There is a difference between easy and utterly brainless.
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Now, Ursan is the equivalent of a cookie cutter PvP build (nuff said... guildwars made easy). Farming gold, faction, and PvP rank is all farming/grinding. The majority of PvE/PvP players do not use many builds, in fact, many only use one or two.
The only difference I have seen in guild wars comes when you are talking High End PvP vs High End PvE. I will side with anyone who says High End PvE is weaker than High End PvP. That only results because there is documentation in what you are going to face in PvE. In PvP, you never know what you are up against. Many people run builds that are great until they meet their counter build... or counter team build. In PvE, you are given the chance to prepare for what you will definitely face.
Last, I don't see the huge difference, they are just two styles of gameplay that don't really require that much more intelligence. I have met dumb players from both sides and also really great players from both sides.
Angelic Upstart
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Originally Posted by ¿Evan¿
The pvp titles are the best, the other ones are just pve noob titles that don't mean anything.
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LOL,
less of the sneering elitism....seriously it's a game
cthulhu reborn
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Originally Posted by romeus petrus
There is a difference between easy and utterly brainless.
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So hereby my invitation to you. Please stop talking down to people and just post when you have something more sensible to say than what you have produced in this thread so far. One might start to think that you are actually a troll that uses a less direct approach and I would certainly hope and think you have better to offer.
creelie
I decided to put everything I could into the big box of freebies for Saxifrage the Second, so I have to go for 20 maxed titles (I'm at 15 atm). But I have to say, I am still proudest of my Legendary Guardian title.
Zapper901
Vanquisher, Guardian, and Hero.
romeus petrus
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Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn
Of course you do not use any profanity or words like stupid and idiot
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Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn
but your condescending attitude, besides from being completely arbitrary and baseless
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Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn
should actually be enough to be banned from this forum
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Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn
as you are basically saying that no one can or should be taking any pride from their PvE experience, and that they are by your standards inferior if they do. You don't actually call PvE players stupid but that's exactly what you are saying nonetheless.
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Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn
So hereby my invitation to you. Please stop talking down to people and just post when you have something more sensible to say than what you have produced in this thread so far. One might start to think that you are actually a troll that uses a less direct approach and I would certainly hope and think you have better to offer.
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I voiced a concern shared by many in the game, that PvE titles have turned the game into a grind fest, and that titles that reward grinding should not be considered "prestigious" in response to the OP question. Whether you agree with it or not, it is clearly a valid point.
maraxusofk
ha is pretty predictable too. i mean u can pretty much be asured of what the next build ur gonna fight is, and wut the enemy is prob going to do.
romeus petrus
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Originally Posted by maraxusofk
ha is pretty predictable too. i mean u can pretty much be asured of what the next build ur gonna fight is, and wut the enemy is prob going to do.
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FeroxC
PVP is pointless,boring and detrimental to the games social atmosphere. Earning PVE titles is enjoyable and increases the replaybility of the game by a huge amount, ive now voiced an opinion many other players hold. Its a valid point, lol.
Snow Bunny
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Originally Posted by FeroxC
PVP is pointless,boring and detrimental to the games social atmosphere. Earning PVE titles is enjoyable and increases the replaybility of the game by a huge amount
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FeroxC
If you realy don't understand....
.defekt
Get over the dumb RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing cat pics.
I used to be impressed by r12 hero, but theres a lot of bad r12's now so it's not that impressive. I'm impressed by high Glad ranks, thas about it lol.
You can get basically any PvE title now with heroes and henchies so it's really not that impressive.
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This is ridiculous. I would really LOVE to see a bunch of PvE scrubs enter HA and try to grind some fame. See, the thing is, you have to actually have the skill to beat another team of actual people. Not a group of shadow elementals that do the exact same thing every time you agro them.
But sure, go ahead, I'd love to see how you do. I'm sure 5 fame will be a really good achievement.
I used to be impressed by r12 hero, but theres a lot of bad r12's now so it's not that impressive. I'm impressed by high Glad ranks, thas about it lol.
You can get basically any PvE title now with heroes and henchies so it's really not that impressive.
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Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
Also anyone can grind Ha all day for some fame,its not an impressive title at >R4 same with all pvp titles if you do it long enough you'll get it, so beore ye moan about pve being easy take a look at pvp.
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But sure, go ahead, I'd love to see how you do. I'm sure 5 fame will be a really good achievement.
FrAnt1c??
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Originally Posted by carnage-runner
Treasure Hunter...
Legendary Gaurdian.. High rank PVP like Hero and Glad. Legendary Vanq God among Mere Mortals.. Seen 1. Basically that is as good as it gets. You see that and you know someone has invested most likely "too much time into GW" Or they are very rich. The one I saw was the latter of the two. Obviously though Multi Maxed titles are where it's at now a days. No one cares for solitary Maxed titles anymore. But who's really impressed anyways? It's just some words from some movie that were very meaningless in the scene. |
For PvP it's the Champion Title imo...
You cant compare pvp and pve titles imo, they both take a lot of time to reach, but you just cant compare them because pve and pvp are almost two different worlds, and the discussion of which is better is just useless.
romeus petrus
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Originally Posted by FrAnt1c²
and the discussion of which is better is just useless.
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PvE titles are a grind fest, it is a simple well known fact. How else do u max your LB/SS/norn/asuran/vanguard/dwarven/drunkard/wisdom/treasure hunter/vanquisher...just to list a few.
Redfeather1975
How come you think all PvE titles are a grind fest?
I honestly can't see Legendary Guardian as a grind fest. I find beating bad players in PvP far less challenging and boring than getting masters in some missions in hard mode.
Many PvP titles can be achieved by beating bad players for a very long time.
I feel Champion however is the most prestigous PvP title, because you have no choice in how you get it. Sure you can use cheap builds, but it demands you are fighting a guild of high rank.
I still think Legandary Guardian and Champion are the 2 titles most accurately reflecting skill.
I honestly can't see Legendary Guardian as a grind fest. I find beating bad players in PvP far less challenging and boring than getting masters in some missions in hard mode.
Many PvP titles can be achieved by beating bad players for a very long time.
I feel Champion however is the most prestigous PvP title, because you have no choice in how you get it. Sure you can use cheap builds, but it demands you are fighting a guild of high rank.
I still think Legandary Guardian and Champion are the 2 titles most accurately reflecting skill.
pamelf
I don't look at them to be honest...
I D E L E T E D I
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How come you think all PvE titles are a grind fest?
I honestly can't see Legendary Guardian as a grind fest. I find beating bad players in PvP far less challenging and boring than getting masters in some missions in hard mode. Many PvP titles can be achieved by beating bad players for a very long time. I feel Champion however is the most prestigous PvP title, because you have no choice in how you get it. Sure you can use cheap builds, but it demands you are fighting a guild of high rank. I still think Legandary Guardian and Champion are the 2 titles most accurately reflecting skill. |
Titles such as Legendary Vanquisher, SS/LB, GWen Rep titles, etc now these are grind titles and although LV still requires a tad but of build making for your heros its still more of a grind than anything else.
kooomar
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This is ridiculous. I would really LOVE to see a bunch of PvE scrubs enter HA and try to grind some fame. See, the thing is, you have to actually have the skill to beat another team of actual people. Not a group of shadow elementals that do the exact same thing every time you agro them.
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maraxusofk
.........doesnt exactly take skill to win ha for the last time. wtfbbqomg
.defekt
Yeah, I understand, and yeah ofc I started with PvE. The dude was talking as though you can jump from PvE straight to PvP and win. Doesn't really work like that, you have to spend a fair bit of time learning tactics/maps and all that shit, not to mention low rank pug's fail ;b
Res Ipsi
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Originally Posted by .defekt
you have to spend a fair bit of time learning tactics/maps and all that shit, not to mention low rank pug's fail ;b
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The Way Out
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Originally Posted by romeus petrus
The discussion is about which one requires more skill and thus is more prestigious. It seems that some people insist that PvE titles and PvP titles require a comparable amount of skill. A point of view that I and a few other players in this forum strongly disagree with for reasons listed above.
PvE titles are a grind fest, it is a simple well known fact. How else do u max your LB/SS/norn/asuran/vanguard/dwarven/drunkard/wisdom/treasure hunter/vanquisher...just to list a few. |
Enter mission, live or die, change build, Enter mission, live or die, change build, Enter mission, live or die, change build... etc...
Neither PvP nor PvE are inherently hard. You just need practice at both. Also, when I first started PvE I sucked... now I don't. When I first started PvP I got pwnd by people, now I don't. I think PvP players have strayed to far from PvE to realize that it had challenge for them at some point. They assume that they can just waltz in and pwn everything. lol
FrAnt1c??
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Originally Posted by romeus petrus
The discussion is about which one requires more skill and thus is more prestigious. It seems that some people insist that PvE titles and PvP titles require a comparable amount of skill. A point of view that I and a few other players in this forum strongly disagree with for reasons listed above.
PvE titles are a grind fest, it is a simple well known fact. How else do u max your LB/SS/norn/asuran/vanguard/dwarven/drunkard/wisdom/treasure hunter/vanquisher...just to list a few. |
Imo Heroway/bloodspike/rangerspike/paraspike/whatever in HA is Fame grinding, so no difference in that imo...
romeus petrus
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Originally Posted by The Way Out
They assume that they can just waltz in and pwn everything. lol
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romeus petrus
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Originally Posted by FrAnt1c²
Imo Heroway/bloodspike/rangerspike/paraspike/whatever in HA is Fame grinding, so no difference in that imo...
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sunnyshine
To me, the most prestigious titles are skills and KoaBD. Only because I know how much work I have been putting into both. And I haven't been going for the drunkard/sweet tooth titles because, to me, they are a waste of my time. But I don't go for titles for recognition but because I enjoy it and I want it. To the point where I can become slightly obsessive. I just find titles a fun part of the game.
Dr Strangelove
Guardian and vanquisher matter because they take a degree of skill. The rest of the PvE titles are meaningless.
For the PvP titles, champion > hero > gladiator > Kurzick/Luxon > hero battles
For the PvP titles, champion > hero > gladiator > Kurzick/Luxon > hero battles
The Way Out
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I can tell you one little difference: You are using them against real human players who are trying to counter you. Not some brainless AI that does the exact same thing every time you aggro.
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tmakinen
Well, I don't think that there is any competition, Champion wins hands down. If you think of any PvE title, it's just a matter of tenacity. Anything on the PvE side yields when you throw enough resources at it (and naturally avoid being a total moron as well). On the PvP side, for every title except Champion you must only be better than some percentage of the playerbase and the points will eventually accumulate. Even the worst player in the game may get the occasional point when leeching off of a PUG. If you are strictly average, 50% of matches you'll be beaten to pulp but it doesn't matter since the other 50% of matches you're facing even worse players than you. Now Champion is totally different. You must be among the most skilled 0.01% of the entire playerbase to even get a go at it, and you actually have to win somebody of the same magnitude to earn that point.
I'm a predominantly PvE player myself and I see my currently maxed 28 titles as an indication of time spent doing PvE, just the same as people who farm Hero, Gladiator, Gamer or Commander points - to each their own. However, I do take notice when I see a Champion, since no amount of time will give you that title if you aren't pretty darned good at what you're doing.
I'm a predominantly PvE player myself and I see my currently maxed 28 titles as an indication of time spent doing PvE, just the same as people who farm Hero, Gladiator, Gamer or Commander points - to each their own. However, I do take notice when I see a Champion, since no amount of time will give you that title if you aren't pretty darned good at what you're doing.
Into White
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Originally Posted by tmakinen
Well, I don't think that there is any competition, Champion wins hands down. If you think of any PvE title, it's just a matter of tenacity. Anything on the PvE side yields when you throw enough resources at it (and naturally avoid being a total moron as well). On the PvP side, for every title except Champion you must only be better than some percentage of the playerbase and the points will eventually accumulate. Even the worst player in the game may get the occasional point when leeching off of a PUG. If you are strictly average, 50% of matches you'll be beaten to pulp but it doesn't matter since the other 50% of matches you're facing even worse players than you. Now Champion is totally different. You must be among the most skilled 0.01% of the entire playerbase to even get a go at it, and you actually have to win somebody of the same magnitude to earn that point.
I'm a predominantly PvE player myself and I see my currently maxed 28 titles as an indication of time spent doing PvE, just the same as people who farm Hero, Gladiator, Gamer or Commander points - to each their own. However, I do take notice when I see a Champion, since no amount of time will give you that title if you aren't pretty darned good at what you're doing. |
maraxusofk
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To me, the most prestigious titles are skills and KoaBD.
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Zaris
Champion r5+
And maybe r6 koabd
And maybe r6 koabd
Cure For Road Rage
having grinded 8 (count'em, they make me sick) glad points in one week, I can honestly say that no, glad title ain't easy to get. to all those of you who propose that glad title is nothing more than time/grind, let me ask: should sheer fanatical patience be applauded? i'm thinking, Hell Yeah! not that i'm fanatical or anything, of course.
as for legendary guardian=pay for runs. nuts.
p.s. stop bringing daze to pvp, it makes my life so much harder ^_^
as for legendary guardian=pay for runs. nuts.
p.s. stop bringing daze to pvp, it makes my life so much harder ^_^