the most prestigious title?

Dono

Dono

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

Cleethorpes

We Like To Spank Your [Mum]

Mo/

I'm far more impressed with PVP titles than PVE, as I see PVE titles as less skill and more time while PVP titles you won't have them unless you have the skill.

Raiku

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Legendary Treasure Hunter on a Presearing.

Fantus

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

PvP: Champion, Hero
PvE: KoaBD, Legendary Guardian, Legendary Survivor (if the person gained it not by doing HFFF or boxing that is)

Murmel

Murmel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Land of Confusion

[swea]

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The coolest title I know of = Slayer of Imps
Just kidding Now the serious reply.

PvE: This ones hard... umm.. hehe.. Think it must be God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals. But as you need like 25 maxed titles of whatever, I'll take one of the other ones
Legendary Guardian i preety cool I think sounds cool anyway *roll eyes*

PvP: Definetly (or however it's spelled) the Hero title track. Who doesn't want to be a "Hero"

But this is just what I think.

take_me

take_me

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

Europe

Country Roads [HOME]

Canthan Explorer (60%)

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dono
I'm far more impressed with PVP titles than PVE, as I see PVE titles as less skill and more time while PVP titles you won't have them unless you have the skill.
- What makes you think that PvP titles are skill over time? Sorry dude, but if you put 6 hours a day to HA you get any rank no matter what.

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

Quote:
Originally Posted by aapo
- What makes you think that PvP titles are skill over time? Sorry dude, but if you put 6 hours a day to HA you get any rank no matter what.
I do hope for your sake that you are not serious.

First 6 hours a day is a rate not an absoulte amount of time. For example 6 hours/day for 3 years is a lot more time than 6 hours/day for a week. Simple fact.

Secondly, maxing out your hero title is HA takes a lot more than just time, it takes a lot of skill, coordination, and dedication. A whole lot more than any title in PvE can ever require.

A simple proof is not a single player in GW has an R15 hero title at this time. Compare that to the masses with "GWAMM".

I rest my case.


/edited to R15

Dallcingi

Dallcingi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

The Black Parades [死人死]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by romeus petrus
I do hope for your sake that you are not serious.

First 6 hours a day is a rate not an absoulte amount of time. For example 6 hours/day for 3 years is a lot more time than 6 hours/day for a week. Simple fact.

Secondly, maxing out your hero title is HA takes a lot more than just time, it takes a lot of skill, coordination, and dedication. A whole lot more than any title in PvE can ever require.

A simple proof is not a single player in GW has an R16 hero title at this time. Compare that to the masses with "GWAMM".

I rest my case.
ya thats cause there is no r16 for hero....
and try sway all day, no skill required... you still get fame for winning first 3 maps though.

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallcingi
ya thats cause there is no r16 for hero....
and try sway all day, no skill required... you still get fame for winning first 3 maps though.
My bad, I meant R15

Vanquisher

Site Contributor

Join Date: Mar 2005

Herts, UK

One Hitter Quitters [QQ]

All titles are grinding. The most prestigious would have been Champion if it was still 1500 and lots of resets, but when it got changed to 1200 the awesomeness of it just got taken away.

Legendary Shiz

Legendary Shiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by aapo
- What makes you think that PvP titles are skill over time? Sorry dude, but if you put 6 hours a day to HA you get any rank no matter what.
Meh, not really.

If you put 6 hours into PuGing every day you'll eventually get a wolfy but probably not much more.

If you put 6 hours into guild groups, that's obviously a bit different.

Want to know why? Because one team has skill, the other doesn't.

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

I'm impressed by champ and hero titles. Well, "impressed" isn't the right word, really, as even hero (12) isn't exceptionally rare anymore. They're just notable.

miles

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

The Best Guild In The Game [Best]

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any of the crazy high maxed pve titles are pretty impressive imo, also high ranked glad titles. KoaBD 5 and up is nuts, aswell as the vanquishing titles. its not that they are difficult to get, but that i could never see myself putting in that amount of effort over soemthing so tedious/boring

.Qualengeist.

.Qualengeist.

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2008

Mo/

Legendary Treasure Hunter on a Presearing.

That is quite unbelievable... but very nice

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallcingi
ya thats cause there is no r16 for hero....
and try sway all day, no skill required... you still get fame for winning first 3 maps though.
Assume 5 fame on average (not always going to win first 3 maps).
Takes 5-10 minutes per fight, 3 fights, plus an extra 5 minutes for the Zaishen and wait times between fights. So let's go with 30 minutes per round. That's 5 fame in 30 minutes. That's 6000 minutes = 100 hours playing HA (not including group formation times) to get rank6, 466.5 hours for rank9, and 2160 hours for rank12. I think it's fair to say that high Hero ranks require some measure of skill in order to reasonably achieve them. You could earn FoW armor farming mantids on Shing Jea island, but I doubt many people do that either.

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyy High
Assume 5 fame on average (not always going to win first 3 maps).
Takes 5-10 minutes per fight, 3 fights, plus an extra 5 minutes for the Zaishen and wait times between fights. So let's go with 30 minutes per round. That's 5 fame in 30 minutes. That's 6000 minutes = 100 hours playing HA (not including group formation times) to get rank6, 466.5 hours for rank9, and 2160 hours for rank12. I think it's fair to say that high Hero ranks require some measure of skill in order to reasonably achieve them. You could earn FoW armor farming mantids on Shing Jea island, but I doubt many people do that either.
I'd say assume 3 fame on average, for an average team, and you can't really throw out waiting times, they'd probably make up half of your "HA playtime".

Basically, I consider getting r9 with dumb grinding to be flat out impossible.

jamal555

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Dumb grinding...

u mean like Iway and all kinds of 3.2.1... spike... ranger, rit... whatever... thats dumb grinding... and some ppl got even r12 with that u know who u are... and start flaming... now...
exploiting imba skills before they are nerfed and gaining massive amount of fame by that... there is no skill there...

There is just no skill in those builds... just mashing buttons... like ursan... excuse me but it is like that... i mean they get even to hoh if they dont run into any normal guild... ask any of the players that play balanced and/or gvg's in the early days... when we had prophecies only...

And thats how u farm pvp hero rank... easy... afcourse its impossible for solo players... of newbies... or any1 who started playing gw a year ago or so... but ppl had very high ranks lot before even factions came out... ppl in a competent guild... or even one that know to copy a build and practice it over and over again...

i have some friends from my town... they are a little retarded... no really are like 2 left hands... like the worst players u ever saw at pvp or pve... type of guys that run 1on1 on mesmer with their mending wamos and are convinced they will win... those type... they copyed other ppls builds including some that our guild gave them... they all are r9 and even 2 are r10... they just played insane amount of time... 6-9 hrs a day... 3 times got to hoh and lost... and they have r9-10... every time i see them in ha... i remember that EVERYTHING CAN BE GRINDED... they really didnt understand what they were playing... they memorized how... and who does what... and went with it...

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Gladiator,Fame and Drunkyard.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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PvE title: GWAMM
PvP title: Close to max Champion *or whatever the GvG title is* seeing how that is the hardest to work on in PvP in my opinion.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

incorrigible ale hound. Sure it doesn't take gameplay skill, but it takes dedication, effort, and a good bit of attention to detail to perform your tasks as well as keep the drunk going. If you sit in town with a click-bot...maybe not so much. But if you get the title while doing other things....definitely in my book as one of the higher-up PvE titles.

Legendary Guardian is another good one simply because many mission bonuses /masters are dependent on speed/coordination, and having faster enemies with more armor/power/health/damage dealing than the mission was originally intended to have, all the while having smaller party sizes in many of them compared to the enemy level....oy. Great Northern Wall...huge enemy groups at times, 4 party size, and 25% faster run on the charr chasing you at the end. "Charge!" ?

gone

Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

when the "farmer's line" of titles are intro'd they will be the absolute cream of the crop.

Team Ramrod

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

[Here]

Quote:
Originally Posted by romeus petrus
I do hope for your sake that you are not serious.

First 6 hours a day is a rate not an absoulte amount of time. For example 6 hours/day for 3 years is a lot more time than 6 hours/day for a week. Simple fact.

Secondly, maxing out your hero title is HA takes a lot more than just time, it takes a lot of skill, coordination, and dedication. A whole lot more than any title in PvE can ever require.

A simple proof is not a single player in GW has an R15 hero title at this time. Compare that to the masses with "GWAMM".

I rest my case.


/edited to R15
No @ the skill part, and nobody has r15 as it takes an insane amount of time to get it, even if youre winning halls all day.

JR

JR

Re:tired

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

Champ title is the only title that isn't entirely time based.

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Ramrod
No @ the skill part, and nobody has r15 as it takes an insane amount of time to get it, even if youre winning halls all day.
Definitely requires more skill than anything linked to PvE.

Res Ipsi

Res Ipsi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Canada

Angel Sharks [As]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
Definitely requires more skill than anything linked to PvE.
Yeah, I'd say PvP is on par with Polymock <snicker>

Leetwalrushunter

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

Buffalo NY

Wandering Eye (Perv)

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
I can understand your logic but from my own experience, people with that title tend to be arrogant, elitist and downright anti-social. Of course, not all of them are like that and I can't tar everybody with the same brush. That title has negative connotations for me.

The titles I like are the level 7 Treasure Hunter and Wisdom titles. Even if someone ebayed the gold for Wisdom and bought the unidentifieds from botters, it still sticks out like a sore thumb. 10,000 rare IDs and chests opened. DAYYYUM.



I agree and disagree. On one hand, some players earned their wins in a truly competitive way and win matches with top 20 guilds. On the other hand some people farm lower ranked guilds with spiritway.








HOw do u farm lower ranked guilds, to get a point both guilds have to have 1200 rating and up, meaning top 150ish

Team Ramrod

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

[Here]

Quote:
Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
Definitely requires more skill than anything linked to PvE.
Well obviously it does, and you make it seem like I was defeneding pve titles, when I wasn't and didn't metion them at all....

Rothan Celt

Rothan Celt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Aura

Mo/R

my opinon Legandray defender of aschlon and the explora titles. Quite simply for the explora because its so big and noticable when ppl scroll over you.

Rothan Celt

Rothan Celt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Aura

Mo/R

Most pvp titles are impossible to get unless you have a decent guild or have been playing on Guildwars for years. Getting accepted into HA teams are near impossible if u do not get a decent team from ur guild. Or maybe you can get urself in as a monk.

rkubik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaker
I also think that titles are mostly for your own sense of personal achievement, but many people are impressed by them anyway.
The titles that most impress me are the ones such as the Vanquishing Titles, or Skill Capping titles, or Protector titles that most often indicate that the wearer has actually done something (although even they could be "leeched".)
The silly ones, such as the Sweetooth and Drunkard titles are just for the kiddies and don't impress anyone really. Cartography titles are somewhere in between - you do have to actually do something to get them, but it takes more grind than ability.
PKM
I disagree with you on the point where you mention it takes more grind than skill. To a certain extent there are some missions in Tyria that require a lot of skill and patience to get the cartographer title. Ex Dunes of Despair. The majority is grind which is true but I think you are discounting there is some skill involved. I still think Vanquishing are the gold standard for titles. It is not about just getting through a mission but you have to go through areas you might not usually go to and kill everything. Patience, skill, and knowledge are a big part of those titles.

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Ramrod
No @ the skill part, and nobody has r15 as it takes an insane amount of time to get it, even if youre winning halls all day.
I hate to break it to you but R15 in Hero title is not impossible. There are at least 2 players that I know of who will probably get it before the end of this year. And sure it takes time, but unlike most PvE titles it also takes skill.

miskav

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

Mo/

KOABD r6 :P.

Prestigious for time spent, not really ''skill'' involved.

Team Ramrod

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

[Here]

Quote:
Originally Posted by romeus petrus
I hate to break it to you but R15 in Hero title is not impossible. There are at least 2 players that I know of who will probably get it before the end of this year. And sure it takes time, but unlike most PvE titles it also takes skill.
Did I say it was immpossible? No, I didn't.

VOTD

VOTD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

only titles i woud turn my head becouse is champion and KoaBD in r6

kuza_the_ps

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Slovenia(Ljubljana)

Hey Mallyx [icU]

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"God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals" FTW
r 15 hero FTW(takes TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)and that is lame

FrAnt1c??

FrAnt1c??

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Belgium

Legion Of Sacred Light [LSL]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kuza_the_ps
"God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals" FTW
r 15 hero FTW(takes TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)and that is lame
Needs moar " !!!!! " or " 111 " wichever you prefer.

oracle.delphi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

ontario, canada

Steel Beasts

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I have to agree that titles are important to those who have them Obviously people who pvp alot ( and i'm not one of them yet because people are really mean to "newbs" and our guild was previously tiny and mainly just me and the bf) the pvp titles are important
Personally skill hunuter titles are a it right now. I have one...tyrian..random boss spawn mean mega pain...and i thought about the elite tome...but couldn't quite bring myself to do it...so it's sort of a badge of honour for me right now. Legendary quardian is right up there too
my props off to those pvpers who have maxed out their titles...i really and truly appreciate the skill assoiated with that type of play...hopefully i won't suck at it for too much longer

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

Champion title is most prestigious... you can farm fame... you can't farm champ points ( but you actually can in good guilds )

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Ramrod
Did I say it was immpossible? No, I didn't.
Then do you agree that it is possible just insanely hard?

If so then that backs my point that PvP titles will always be more prestigious than anything PvE has to offer. And if you agree on that point too, then there is no point in continuing this discussion as we both have reached an agreement.

Proff

Proff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rothan Celt
my opinon Legandray defender of aschlon and the explora titles. Quite simply for the explora because its so big and noticable when ppl scroll over you.
LDoA is easy to get if you can find the time for 500 hours of afk and legendary cartographer can be gotten in a couple days with a running build and texmod...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rothan Celt
Most pvp titles are impossible to get unless you have a decent guild or have been playing on Guildwars for years. Getting accepted into HA teams are near impossible if u do not get a decent team from ur guild. Or maybe you can get urself in as a monk.
I'm guessing you haven't HA'd much, right now there's tons of no ranked sway groups there. Sure you won't ever win halls but you can still get some points.