3-Necro HM Build
trandhuil75
i have a Rt,but i don't know how to combine is with sabway, can anybody of u make like my build+the necro's builds?
Super Igor
any Rt build will do, doesnt matter what your own build is when youre running sab's.
trandhuil75
ye but if i combinate it's stronger/better...
Super Igor
Not in the rits case lol.
Those necroes do every possible job you could do with your rit but they do it much, much better.
You can take an SS Scythe build though so you do good damage and benefit from melee hexes better. Dont worry about having low armor, with so much defense it's simply irrelevant.
Those necroes do every possible job you could do with your rit but they do it much, much better.
You can take an SS Scythe build though so you do good damage and benefit from melee hexes better. Dont worry about having low armor, with so much defense it's simply irrelevant.
Sir Lime
I'm necro myself and will probleby run the SS variant, so wich third hero shuold i use? I'd like advices for both 4-man and more members build 
And also, should i add any PvE skill like Necrosis since ill run SS?
And also, should i add any PvE skill like Necrosis since ill run SS?
biscuitasylum
i tried sabway as a four man in hard mode.
wasnt impressed at all.
if ure looking for fast kills and a reliable healer in a 4 man... sabway falls short of it.
however if you're the one healing... its not a bad build.
just my opinion.
wasnt impressed at all.
if ure looking for fast kills and a reliable healer in a 4 man... sabway falls short of it.
however if you're the one healing... its not a bad build.
just my opinion.
Paul Dawg
What do you recommend instead?
Sankt Hallvard
Hai guise.
Just wondering about spiteful spirit on the cursenec. What are your opinions of this choice? Will not mr Masters hex the target you are currently engaging, meaning SS will only be active for a short while? Or are heroes pro enough to cast it on whoever seems to be spamming/attacking the most and AVOID hexing your target?
I've removed SS from my honorable hero setup in teambuilder for this reason. However, I only create builds I never playtest them. PvE is mostly too boring to actually play.
Just wondering about spiteful spirit on the cursenec. What are your opinions of this choice? Will not mr Masters hex the target you are currently engaging, meaning SS will only be active for a short while? Or are heroes pro enough to cast it on whoever seems to be spamming/attacking the most and AVOID hexing your target?
I've removed SS from my honorable hero setup in teambuilder for this reason. However, I only create builds I never playtest them. PvE is mostly too boring to actually play.
MercenaryKnight
Thus the downfall of sabway build. They will focus on what your targeting and thus your main damage source of SS will result in low damage. If you have the option to run the SS yourself all the better. No don't flame me I didn't say it's the only source of damage. Yeah I know splinter weapon and all the extras like minion bombing and what have you. Just that you can have all of those same benefits with discordway so comparing it on an elite basis SS is inferior for a bad ai.
Otherwise just run discordway and don't worry about it.
Otherwise just run discordway and don't worry about it.
T1Cybernetic
Has anyone had any success vanquishing joko's domain and the rest of the desolation with this type of hero team?
I could not take down the paragon boss in joko's domain (after 20 minutes and -60 death penalty) and i've not had a chance to try since a few days ago but i was wondering what everyone else did when tackling the desolation vanquishes?
I think i will be fine on the rest of the desolation as i have finished crystal overlook with no problems and no deaths
Anyhow these are my last 5 areas to vanquish so i thought i would ask...
I could not take down the paragon boss in joko's domain (after 20 minutes and -60 death penalty) and i've not had a chance to try since a few days ago but i was wondering what everyone else did when tackling the desolation vanquishes?
I think i will be fine on the rest of the desolation as i have finished crystal overlook with no problems and no deaths
Anyhow these are my last 5 areas to vanquish so i thought i would ask...
Lodar Aric
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Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic
Has anyone had any success vanquishing joko's domain and the rest of the desolation with this type of hero team?
I could not take down the paragon boss in joko's domain (after 20 minutes and -60 death penalty) and i've not had a chance to try since a few days ago but i was wondering what everyone else did when tackling the desolation vanquishes?
I think i will be fine on the rest of the desolation as i have finished crystal overlook with no problems and no deaths Anyhow these are my last 5 areas to vanquish so i thought i would ask...
I assume you are talking about Arneh?
I struggled a few times with him, just managed to vanquish the area today and killed him pretty easilly this time.
I dropped the 3 discord necros i usually use, took 3 ray of judgement smiter monk heroes, 1 equipped with frozen soil to stop the res's. I was an ele primary, but went spirit spammer:
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Any/Rt_Spirit_Farmer
Hench wise i took Domination, Blood, Healer and Monk.
I just placed all the spirits, flagged the heroes behind and pulled Arneh and his group. He went down pretty quickly.
I could not take down the paragon boss in joko's domain (after 20 minutes and -60 death penalty) and i've not had a chance to try since a few days ago but i was wondering what everyone else did when tackling the desolation vanquishes?
I think i will be fine on the rest of the desolation as i have finished crystal overlook with no problems and no deaths
Anyhow these are my last 5 areas to vanquish so i thought i would ask...
I assume you are talking about Arneh?I struggled a few times with him, just managed to vanquish the area today and killed him pretty easilly this time.
I dropped the 3 discord necros i usually use, took 3 ray of judgement smiter monk heroes, 1 equipped with frozen soil to stop the res's. I was an ele primary, but went spirit spammer:
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Any/Rt_Spirit_Farmer
Hench wise i took Domination, Blood, Healer and Monk.
I just placed all the spirits, flagged the heroes behind and pulled Arneh and his group. He went down pretty quickly.
T1Cybernetic
I forgot to say i am a primary warrior 
i have completed legendary vanquisher on my necromancer but that was a long time ago and i can not remember that boss being so hard :P
I think i might have to give those RoJ monks a blast and see how it goes
i have completed legendary vanquisher on my necromancer but that was a long time ago and i can not remember that boss being so hard :PI think i might have to give those RoJ monks a blast and see how it goes
ajicorath
Yeah his mob and those around him have a lot of rez skills.
Any decent hero setup plus Frozen Soil and it shouldn't be too difficult.
Any decent hero setup plus Frozen Soil and it shouldn't be too difficult.
Brakkis
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Originally Posted by Sab
N/Mo Jagged Bomber, Main Build
[build prof=N/Mo death=12+1+3 sou=9+1 pro=9] I'm rather new to the game, well, I've had it since release, but never really played it much, just dabbled, but now I'm trying to get more into it.
I would simply like to know what 12+1+3 is supposed to mean? I know that Superior Runes gives +3, and Minor Runes give +1, since I've bothered to check the Wiki, but I also know that they don't stack. So is there something else that can be done to give +1 or +3 to an attribute?
[build prof=N/Mo death=12+1+3 sou=9+1 pro=9] I'm rather new to the game, well, I've had it since release, but never really played it much, just dabbled, but now I'm trying to get more into it.
I would simply like to know what 12+1+3 is supposed to mean? I know that Superior Runes gives +3, and Minor Runes give +1, since I've bothered to check the Wiki, but I also know that they don't stack. So is there something else that can be done to give +1 or +3 to an attribute?
Kafiri_Mkorogai
Armor pieces for your head slot give +1 to one of your attribute lines. When you have armor crafted, you have to select which of these attributes that head armor will give a bonus for, and this bonus stacks with another rune for the same attribute. So, it would look like this:
12(base attribute) + 1 (helmet) + 1/2/3 (minor/major/superior rune)
12(base attribute) + 1 (helmet) + 1/2/3 (minor/major/superior rune)
The Weasels
Hi,
Whats a good alternative if you only have access to 2 necros? Due to lack of 1 expansion. What would be the best mix and what to use to fill the gap?
Cheers
Whats a good alternative if you only have access to 2 necros? Due to lack of 1 expansion. What would be the best mix and what to use to fill the gap?
Cheers
FyrFytr998
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Originally Posted by The Weasels
Hi,
Whats a good alternative if you only have access to 2 necros? Due to lack of 1 expansion. What would be the best mix and what to use to fill the gap?
Cheers That depends. Are you if gonna keep the healing necro or not. I would run the MM and SS necros, and throw in a either a Searing Flames or Mind Blast ele..
Whats a good alternative if you only have access to 2 necros? Due to lack of 1 expansion. What would be the best mix and what to use to fill the gap?
Cheers That depends. Are you if gonna keep the healing necro or not. I would run the MM and SS necros, and throw in a either a Searing Flames or Mind Blast ele..
The Weasels
Paul Dawg
Pain of disenchantment is definitely not as good as spiteful spirit. Do the math. At 14 curses, pain of disenchantment will do 94 damage to adjacent foes every 15 seconds (that's the recharge) IF the target had an enchantment (which, to be fair, it usually does, if the AI is running the bar). At 14 curses, spiteful spirit will do 33 points of damage to adjacent foes every time the target attacks or uses a skill, which is going to be a good 10-15 times in the same 15 seconds. That adds up to way more damage than 94.
If you don't like the fact that spiteful spirit is wiped out when the target dies, don't forget that you have the same problem with pain of disenchantment, and at least spiteful spirit has a quicker recharge (10 vs. 15 secs.).
I really don't think it's even close.
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Originally Posted by Sankt Hallvard
If you don't like the fact that spiteful spirit is wiped out when the target dies, don't forget that you have the same problem with pain of disenchantment, and at least spiteful spirit has a quicker recharge (10 vs. 15 secs.).
I really don't think it's even close.
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I just didn't find SS on par with the other elites. I'll use pain of disenchantment over it, but not all areas feature enchantments.
kanuks
MasterSasori
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Originally Posted by The Weasels
Hi,
Whats a good alternative if you only have access to 2 necros? Due to lack of 1 expansion. What would be the best mix and what to use to fill the gap?
Cheers SOS Rit spammer + 2 discord, 1 mm, 1 healer/curse
enough hexes and conditions for you to not contribute.
Whats a good alternative if you only have access to 2 necros? Due to lack of 1 expansion. What would be the best mix and what to use to fill the gap?
Cheers SOS Rit spammer + 2 discord, 1 mm, 1 healer/curse
enough hexes and conditions for you to not contribute.
Trader of Secrets
Sabway was always reliant on you doing the damage, it did dish out massive heals. Back in the days of ursan, ran 2 healers and the bomber. Cleared out many places only b/c ursan was doing damage and being supported by the necros. In these days melee has it better with sab b/c there is splinter.
Showtime
Hope this is the right place.
Equipment:
I've been using Sabs or the discord version on my ranger and war for a bit and it's been great in HM. Lately I've been running discord team with my necro. I have a question about equipment for the heroes and my necro. Mainly if it's better to use a 20/20 all set or a staff.
I think the 40/40 sets for the restor and mm hero is fine, but 40/40 on curse seems like a waste since there's only 4 curses and his main attack is discord. I hex and condition right off the bat AP/YMLAD. I switched to a 20/20 all on him and don't see much of a difference. Did the same for my primary necro. Is it generally better to run a 20/20 all set or a staff with HP for HM?
They are equiped with torementors and vitae runes. Doesn't seem to be a better option for hm. I leave a bloodstained on the mm since I switch between mm and discord builds or hybrid.
Equipment:
I've been using Sabs or the discord version on my ranger and war for a bit and it's been great in HM. Lately I've been running discord team with my necro. I have a question about equipment for the heroes and my necro. Mainly if it's better to use a 20/20 all set or a staff.
I think the 40/40 sets for the restor and mm hero is fine, but 40/40 on curse seems like a waste since there's only 4 curses and his main attack is discord. I hex and condition right off the bat AP/YMLAD. I switched to a 20/20 all on him and don't see much of a difference. Did the same for my primary necro. Is it generally better to run a 20/20 all set or a staff with HP for HM?
They are equiped with torementors and vitae runes. Doesn't seem to be a better option for hm. I leave a bloodstained on the mm since I switch between mm and discord builds or hybrid.
aymanxy
can someone tell me whats better, discord or sab?
Myotheraccount
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Originally Posted by aymanxy
can someone tell me whats better, discord or sab?
Neither. Run Spiritway.
Darwin Iznang
I hustled through NF just so I could get the third Necro hero (I choose Margrid instead of MoW), just so I could try this team build. I am sure it wont work in all areas, but where it does work, it works very well. I play as a Mesmer, so I call targets, and put my stuff on them, and watch them die quickly.
What I really like about this build is that when you switch to the next target, they usually already have substantial health loss. Maybe now I can do those silly WiK quests.
What I really like about this build is that when you switch to the next target, they usually already have substantial health loss. Maybe now I can do those silly WiK quests.