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Originally Posted by Lykan
The only cure for this is common sense.
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Why are people still falling for the oldest trick in the book?
CyberMesh0
Th Fooster
well the issue to me is one of this:
what kind of loser imature smal minded person would even bother taking the time to actuly pull this scam? i mean really how hard is it to go farm your own
item? what ever it is, look it up and wiki tells you whaere it drops, what the monsters in the area... and thier skill bars even! so go farm it!
as for weather or not pple are retarded, no they are not.
not every one has been playing guild wars for 3 years. some just got the game last week. that makes them a noob. not a retard.
its the guy that falls for it twice that lacks common sense.
if you get scamed suck it up and learn .. dont QQ ti anyone about it. it will only get you laughed at and give the scammers the satisfaction.
as for the scammer, what ever floats your bot to make yourself feel better in this illusionary world, just remember it has no bearing on your real life inwitch you probably FAIL at.It does however reveal who you truly are when no one can see you behind your computer screen.and that is.. a thief!
now even though guild wars is just a game and you may think that pple are different in real life,
if they would be dis honest in something so trivial as a game what would they do given the opportunity in real life where the stakes are higher? if you steal in a game you have it in your nature to steal for real. and you area thief in your heart.
the only thing that stops a thief from stealing is the fear of getting caught and exposed. so in real life , you are the kind of person that would steal
if you didnt think you would get caught. that makes you.. a thief IN YOUR NATURE regardles weather or not you actualy physicaly steal, you remain the same at heart, a thief.
and only a thief will get upset at what i posted.
what kind of loser imature smal minded person would even bother taking the time to actuly pull this scam? i mean really how hard is it to go farm your own
item? what ever it is, look it up and wiki tells you whaere it drops, what the monsters in the area... and thier skill bars even! so go farm it!
as for weather or not pple are retarded, no they are not.
not every one has been playing guild wars for 3 years. some just got the game last week. that makes them a noob. not a retard.
its the guy that falls for it twice that lacks common sense.
if you get scamed suck it up and learn .. dont QQ ti anyone about it. it will only get you laughed at and give the scammers the satisfaction.
as for the scammer, what ever floats your bot to make yourself feel better in this illusionary world, just remember it has no bearing on your real life inwitch you probably FAIL at.It does however reveal who you truly are when no one can see you behind your computer screen.and that is.. a thief!
now even though guild wars is just a game and you may think that pple are different in real life,
if they would be dis honest in something so trivial as a game what would they do given the opportunity in real life where the stakes are higher? if you steal in a game you have it in your nature to steal for real. and you area thief in your heart.
the only thing that stops a thief from stealing is the fear of getting caught and exposed. so in real life , you are the kind of person that would steal
if you didnt think you would get caught. that makes you.. a thief IN YOUR NATURE regardles weather or not you actualy physicaly steal, you remain the same at heart, a thief.
and only a thief will get upset at what i posted.
scythefromunder
What do you expect from a MMO that doesnt req a monthly?
Exactly.
Exactly.
WNL
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Originally Posted by scythefromunder
What do you expect from a MMO that doesnt req a monthly?
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scythefromunder
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Originally Posted by WNL
Talk like as if there are no scam tricks in other MMOs, even those that require monthly fees.
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Ones with monthly payment requires ppl with more brains causing less scams. Opinion, Thats my 2 cents.
Edge Martinez
Regina, a simple dialogue box that pops up and says, "Dropping this item may result in you losing it.", would be enough. Much effort does not have to go into this. I'm fairly certain this scam doesn't apply to 99.99% of the population.
WNL
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Originally Posted by scythefromunder
Non-monthly MMO's have some people that just wont think for a $100.
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BodhiNightwind
Until there's an Auction Hall or a Mail system or a shared guild bank, you can't get rid of the drop item feature.
As it is, it's a pain in the butt to share items among guild mates. It's easiest right now to go out into explorable areas and drop crap you dont want for guildies/friends rather than open 50 odd trade windows.
I'm all for fixing this problem, but doing away with what's primitive but really the only way to share crap with friends, is not the answer.
As it is, it's a pain in the butt to share items among guild mates. It's easiest right now to go out into explorable areas and drop crap you dont want for guildies/friends rather than open 50 odd trade windows.
I'm all for fixing this problem, but doing away with what's primitive but really the only way to share crap with friends, is not the answer.
BodhiNightwind
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Originally Posted by Edge Martinez
Regina, a simple dialogue box that pops up and says, "Dropping this item may result in you losing it.", would be enough. Much effort does not have to go into this. I'm fairly certain this scam doesn't apply to 99.99% of the population.
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Yeah...."dropping this item makes it "up for grabs" and any player may pick it up"
would probably solve the problem.
Thecrocodile
Ya I have that skill I love it...only lasts for awhile 
kobey
Suggestion:
Add scam prevention lessons into the tutorial
If noobs are clueless, the tutorial should help them a bit.
If its a veteran, and he still fall for such trick, then no amount of help given to him is helpful. Just let him be.
Add scam prevention lessons into the tutorial
If noobs are clueless, the tutorial should help them a bit.
If its a veteran, and he still fall for such trick, then no amount of help given to him is helpful. Just let him be.
silara_jorinset
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Originally Posted by Tatile
Surely they need to playing with parental supervision, if I remember the EULA correctly? Which would mean that the parent (usually with world experiences) would tell them that it's most likely a scam.
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Tatile
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Originally Posted by silara_jorinset
Do you really think all parents are always going to be sitting and supervising everything their child does in a game? (or have even read the EULA for that matter). Often parents don't take note of any age markings at all as "it's just a game", hence all the Grand Theft Auto outcries. There's been large discussions in the UK recently about remarking of age certificates for games and educating parents about them as they are quite naive on a games possible content.
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Nightmares Hammer
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Originally Posted by Tatile
No I do not think that parents acutally give two hoots what their child is doing, so long as it isn't illegal, which saddens me.
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On-Topic: What do they think will happen when they drop their item...?
Lykan
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Originally Posted by Edge Martinez
Regina, a simple dialogue box that pops up and says, "Dropping this item may result in you losing it.", would be enough. Much effort does not have to go into this. I'm fairly certain this scam doesn't apply to 99.99% of the population.
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Stupid people cannot be protected.
'Hi im the ecto inspector i need to inspect your ecto's'
The Meth
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Originally Posted by scythefromunder
What do you expect from a MMO that doesnt req a monthly?
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...Have you even HEARD of the xbox?
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Originally Posted by Lykan
'Hi im the ecto inspector i need to inspect your ecto's'
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Tatile
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Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer
It's just a game...
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Well, that last point isn't meant to be negative, but I guess it could be if you don't like certain types of ideas.
Tatile
On Topic: Perhaps the pop-ups would be similar to Nanny-statism, but there's only so much you can do when people aren't thinking for themselves, or not questioning motives. I highly doubt they'd let a stranger 'borrow' their car for a quick nip to the shops.
Antheus
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He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool. Shun him. He who knows not, and knows that he knows not is simple. Teach him. He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep. Waken him. He who knows, and knows that he knows is wise. Follow him. |
Yichi
We just need a little check box when you first create a character that says "I'm New" or for an account thats over 6 months old that says "I'm an idiot". You check this box and you are immune to doing anything without a warning box comming up that asks if thi is what you really want to do.
Problem solved.
Problem solved.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Th Fooster
well the issue to me is one of this:
what kind of loser imature smal minded person would even bother taking the time to actuly pull this scam? i mean really how hard is it to go farm your own item? what ever it is, look it up and wiki tells you whaere it drops, what the monsters in the area... and thier skill bars even! so go farm it! |
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as for weather or not pple are retarded, no they are not. not every one has been playing guild wars for 3 years. some just got the game last week. that makes them a noob. not a retard. |
Darkobra
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Originally Posted by Yichi
We just need a little check box when you first create a character that says "I'm New" or for an account thats over 6 months old that says "I'm an idiot". You check this box and you are immune to doing anything without a warning box comming up that asks if thi is what you really want to do.
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Maximumraver
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Originally Posted by Darkobra
I must have ticked that box in Factions then. "Do you really want to continue? Really? Really? REALLY?"
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Targren
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Originally Posted by Tatile
Removing the Drop feature would be bad a change to me, I often end with just... stuff filling my inventory when I'm farming, vanq'ing or in a dungeon, I need to shift this 'stuff' to get better 'stuff' into my inventory (I travel with a fair amount of stuff as it is, don't really have the storage space for it).
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Tatile
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Originally Posted by Targren
There's a trash can on your bag-bar in the inventory screen for that, you know...
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I've had a few bad experiences with Mr. Trash Can.
zelgadissan
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Originally Posted by Lykan
'Hi im the ecto inspector i need to inspect your ecto's'
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RTSFirebat
As I say to people at work regarding some of our more 'special' customers... "You can't fix stupid" 
Commander Ryker
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Originally Posted by -Lotus-
why? they didnt really do anything wrong. sure, its not the "right thing to do," but getting idiots to do wtupid thins is a part of life. they drop items of their own free will. no one makes them do it. if people are stupid enough to try and trade without the trade function they deserve to lose all of their items.
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HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by zelgadissan
I'm totally doing this later tonight. Obviously not going to actually do anything about it, just want to see what kinds of responses I get when I spam it in Kamadan. I'll be just like the "Want to buy accounts for storage Prophecies = 300k etc." guy!
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Xx_Sorin_xX
probably because same old trick, but new dumb people.
Targren
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I've had a few bad experiences with Mr. Trash Can.
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Sometimes it's hard to remember that grown men don't cry...
Miss Puddles
there is a pop-up confirming if we really want to trash an item, if we really want to accept a trade, if we really want to customize/dedicate an item, if we really want to do this and that...
why not one to confirm that we want to drop an item? even the trash pop-up says that you will lose this item forever or something to that effect.
why not one to confirm that we want to drop an item? even the trash pop-up says that you will lose this item forever or something to that effect.
Shayne Hawke
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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
* Change it so that players must give explicit permission for another player to pick up their dropped item, and display a pop up notification asking the player whether they want to allow another player to pick up their dropped item(s).
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If a player gets scammed past that, ignore it, because that's... Ugh. I can't even comprehend words to describe how silly that notion would be.
Hermos
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Originally Posted by Lyphen
Natural Selection.
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Medion
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Originally Posted by -Lotus-
why? they didnt really do anything wrong. sure, its not the "right thing to do," but getting idiots to do wtupid thins is a part of life. they drop items of their own free will. no one makes them do it. if people are stupid enough to try and trade without the trade function they deserve to lose all of their items.
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sure, its not the "right thing to do,"
Now I think you are talking about two different ways of looking at it? The technical one (is there anything about it in the EULA or does Anet officially do anything agains it) and the moral one (is the action of scamming someone something a 'perfect' person would do?).
Personally I prefer looking at things the second way as the first way is just an excuse why you can do it (much like people who through a loophole in the law aren't punished for commiting a crime (which isn't a crime because of the loophole)).
Free will...I think it was Sartre who said you always have a free will? Even if asked to pay money with a gun to your head, so by that logic: people who pay should be laughed at because they could also have chosen to be shot? Now I know this situation is entirely different but I just want to point out that you should watch out a little with saying such things (and I off course wanted to sound clever
)To the people laughing/pointing at those who fall for this scam. I think what you are doing is to be looked at as a 'punishment' to the person who fell for it. I also think the bible says:
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N1ghtstalker
if you're stupid enough to drop your stuff you earn it
sometimes i like dropping stuff on the ground and annoy ppl with it
but that's when they're like 2 aggro's away from me lmao
sometimes i like dropping stuff on the ground and annoy ppl with it
but that's when they're like 2 aggro's away from me lmao
Paul thy god
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Originally Posted by Aussie Boy
Because people (New people to GW) don't know about this
the rest are just plain greedy and out for what they can get. I once was selling something about 4 or 5 months ago and this guy asked to go outside for me to drop it etc etc. I played along for a laugh and at the time dropped a chitten frag and boom he took it and and was gone. I was laughing so hard when he PMed me saying he was going to report me for scamming "him" if i didn't give the proper item to him. I said go ahead mate and report me then. LOL |
Chthon
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Does anyone have any suggestions for the this drop item function in particular that would help reduce the number of scams?
For example, and I'm just fielding some ideas for general consideration: * A pop up notification, asking players if they really want to drop their item(s) * Change it so that players must give explicit permission for another player to pick up their dropped item, and display a pop up notification asking the player whether they want to allow another player to pick up their dropped item(s). * A timer which would prevent another player from picking up dropped item(s) until time ran out * Remove the drop item feature altogether (very drastic) * Something else? |
FrAnt1c??
happened 15 minutes ago, was quite funny though... If you want I can post his IGN...
Pleikki
awww. frantic, you should have falled on that trick, you know ppl try make their living.. jk its hilarious