I don't know about others but for me it seemes that there's not much challenge in PvE anymore. I have to admit that recently i have no idea what to do when i log on, since nothing is really rewarding or fun anymore like in the good old times.
It may be the lack of fresh content or just lack of the "WOW!" feeling about something in PvE to make you want to work hard for it. Everything de-valued, and the KoaBD title track is all that is significant in the game right now - which also de-values PvP and kills the fun out of the game.
It may just be me... but doing things "for fun" feels very very pointless, when title achievements have gotten so overrated and significant for the next game and became the only reason to keep people playing.
The whole vast world of gw has shrunk to the few areas people grind out 60% of the titles. The only reason to do anything in the game is for the titles, it's like "Why should i waste an hour of my time on this when it won't be marked anywhere and i'll get a lousy green i'll npc at the end."
Title-this, title-that, isn't this getting out of hand?
Your opinions?
PvE dried out?
nekopowa
Chushingura
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I don't know about others but for me it seemes that there's not much challenge in PvE anymore.
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Ate of DK
Last few weeks I've had the same feelings about PvE and PvP.
Neo Nugget
Of course, i've you've done it multiple times over the past 3 years, it is boring..... 
But farming ectos and spending money is fun
But farming ectos and spending money is fun
guildwars hero22
i agree titles are all theres left to do. in other games you can level make and do actual stuff here the level cap is so low u hit it 20 right away, and yes the game is all about titles unfortinaly and there isnt anything left to do, it gets boring and repetitve i dont see how theres any gloary in gwamm i mean anyone can sit at there computer for mindless hours but theres no fun in that , then when u hit the granddaddy of em all what do u get, nothing just another title.......boring
GloryFox
Titles killed my fun in PvE.
Too many titles, too many characters.
Bring on Guild Wars 2
Too many titles, too many characters.
Bring on Guild Wars 2
Rhamia Darigaz
oh i see ur problem. ur still playing gw for its pve.
try pvp, its awesome.
and by pvp i mean gvg
try pvp, its awesome.
and by pvp i mean gvg
guildwars hero22
yea i agree with previous postes pve is dead, ursan perma sin, title weekends come up so often too that there just doing it to have players stick around till gw2, peronally i think by having double this double that title weekends they cut the so called honor in half for gwamm(that is if it had any at all)
Taisayacho
PvE + [ursan blessing] = no fun anymore.
jiggles
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Originally Posted by nekopowa
I have to admit that recently i have no idea what to do when i log on, since nothing is really rewarding or fun anymore like in the good old times.
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ah well hopefully i can start pvping alot more
Snow Bunny
Post date: 2008
Wait a minute..............thought we were talking about late '06 here.
Wait a minute..............thought we were talking about late '06 here.
cosyfiep
if you are not having fun anymore no one is forcing you to play...
there is still lots to do (when was the last time you did sorrows furnace?? did you do last day dawns with only 4 people????).....have you played all 10 classes thru all of the chapters etc....lots to do to keep interest, though it would be nice if anet added say...another realm of the gods?????????????
there is still lots to do (when was the last time you did sorrows furnace?? did you do last day dawns with only 4 people????).....have you played all 10 classes thru all of the chapters etc....lots to do to keep interest, though it would be nice if anet added say...another realm of the gods?????????????
Koricen
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(when was the last time you did sorrows furnace?? did you do last day dawns with only 4 people????)
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I think most everyone will slowly lose interest in the game. I can hardly stand to play it anymore if I don't have a friend on to play with.
Enix
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Originally Posted by GloryFox
Titles killed my fun in PvE.
Too many titles, too many characters. Bring on Guild Wars 2 |
The most unfortunate thing is that Titles don't mean you are a GOOD PvE player. They should have an account-based "Pug-worthy" title, where you earn points for successful completion of missions or areas and lose points for fails.
Pugs used to be fun - when good players were forced to play with others. Now we have heros and hench with decent skillsets. Makes me sad.
Rhamia Darigaz
pve=play in ursan elite area group farms, play good fun builds with h/h, or play a good fun build while the rest of your pug group plays wammos and "dps" casters and rangers.
pvp=play disorganized, casual pvp whenever you want or wait for your guild to come on so you can gvg.
why cant there be 7 other humans who will be on gw whenever i am and play with me in whatever format i want
kinda like being able to have 7 heros, except when you add those heros, real ppl with brains come on and play them!!!!
gw should totally do that, with no monthly fee too.
pvp=play disorganized, casual pvp whenever you want or wait for your guild to come on so you can gvg.
why cant there be 7 other humans who will be on gw whenever i am and play with me in whatever format i want
kinda like being able to have 7 heros, except when you add those heros, real ppl with brains come on and play them!!!!
gw should totally do that, with no monthly fee too.
Theus Latius
i enjoyed guild wars, loved the pve, would always take a step back and admire the scenery in a new area... but once you have beaten each campaign 2 or 3 times (yes i know a lot of people have done it more times) things get a bit boring... all i really have left to do is title grind and fill my hom on my main char. and thats no fun. i have no desire to log on because i know when i do its going to be repetitive mindless gameplay... ill do it sometime, just not now... meh
Rocky Raccoon
Nothing is keeping any one from staying and playing. If the game isn't fun to you anymore please find something else to play or do.
Gregslot
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Originally Posted by cosyfiep
if you are not having fun anymore no one is forcing you to play...
there is still lots to do (when was the last time you did sorrows furnace?? did you do last day dawns with only 4 people????).....have you played all 10 classes thru all of the chapters etc....lots to do to keep interest, though it would be nice if anet added say...another realm of the gods????????????? |
We already already following a storyline, you cant just add BAD GUYS to peaceful realms.
Theres Menzies annoying Balthazar and remants of Dhuum&Pals at Grenth's realm.
Who would be causing trouble for Melandru and the others?
Aerian_Skybane
Guild Wars, like any good game, does not deteoriate with age. Doing anything for a long time (and I shudder to think what people in MMOs think of as "long"), it will probably get stale and boring. So take a break. Play another game. GW isn't going anywhere.
I love Guild Wars, but haven't logged on much lately due to a slew of great other games. Is this bad and a sign of darkness? Hell no, I am a gamer, and I like playing games. Guild Wars is one of them. I get itching to play it just as I get itching to beat Duke Nukem 3D every blue moon.
I love Guild Wars, but haven't logged on much lately due to a slew of great other games. Is this bad and a sign of darkness? Hell no, I am a gamer, and I like playing games. Guild Wars is one of them. I get itching to play it just as I get itching to beat Duke Nukem 3D every blue moon.
Killed u man
Heroes killed PvE.
At the end of the day, we're playing a MMO. MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE (If I'm not mistaken)
What happens when U take out the multiplayer? Yeah, you got basic RPG. And if you want that, you're better off with Fable or Oblivion.
I remember most PUGS I had. They were fun. Yeah, we ALL got pissed off that we had that one Wammo who decided to monk, because it is clearly ALOT better than a real monk, because he can't die...
But it's that exact thing that puts feelings into the game. You are actually pissed-off. Humans are social beings by nature. Ok, we're playing a game, and most of us leave the basement once a month, but still... You ARE in fact playing with other ACTUAL people. It's that what makes MMO's so fun, the fact that U CAN show off your e-peen, the fact that U CAN be pissed-off at other people, ...
Olias doesn't care if you fcuk up. Master of Whispers doesn't cry when your party whiped after a 3 hour vanquish. They ARN'T REAL. Pugs are...
Yes, I "herowayed" alot in PvE, but whenever I had the chance to take a real life person for a Vanquish, I'dd gladly kick a hero, for the pug (with whatever random bar he has). In another thread, I explain how good leadership can be the succes of a pug. Well, I myself (when I pug), I get 1 thing clear with the other people, and that is that they won't rage and/or do acts out of rage. (Screw up the vanquish because some guy over-aggrood)
At the end of the day, we're playing a MMO. MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE (If I'm not mistaken
)What happens when U take out the multiplayer? Yeah, you got basic RPG. And if you want that, you're better off with Fable or Oblivion.
I remember most PUGS I had. They were fun. Yeah, we ALL got pissed off that we had that one Wammo who decided to monk, because it is clearly ALOT better than a real monk, because he can't die...
But it's that exact thing that puts feelings into the game. You are actually pissed-off. Humans are social beings by nature. Ok, we're playing a game, and most of us leave the basement once a month, but still... You ARE in fact playing with other ACTUAL people. It's that what makes MMO's so fun, the fact that U CAN show off your e-peen, the fact that U CAN be pissed-off at other people, ...
Olias doesn't care if you fcuk up. Master of Whispers doesn't cry when your party whiped after a 3 hour vanquish. They ARN'T REAL. Pugs are...
Yes, I "herowayed" alot in PvE, but whenever I had the chance to take a real life person for a Vanquish, I'dd gladly kick a hero, for the pug (with whatever random bar he has). In another thread, I explain how good leadership can be the succes of a pug. Well, I myself (when I pug), I get 1 thing clear with the other people, and that is that they won't rage and/or do acts out of rage. (Screw up the vanquish because some guy over-aggrood)
nekopowa
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oh i see ur problem. ur still playing gw for its pve.
try pvp, its awesome. and by pvp i mean gvg |
I did some gvg but i can't really play in top400, since i'm not able to use a mic efficiently
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there is still lots to do (when was the last time you did sorrows furnace?? did you do last day dawns with only 4 people????).....have you played all 10 classes thru all of the chapters etc....lots to do to keep interest, though it would be nice if anet added say...another realm of the gods?????????????
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And omg no, playing through all chapters with all 10 professions. I'm not a masochist
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Nothing is keeping any one from staying and playing. If the game isn't fun to you anymore please find something else to play or do.
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Pesi
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Originally Posted by Chushingura
PvE was hardly, if ever, a challenge.
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lucky me i dont pve no mores
Tyla
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Heroes killed PvE.
At the end of the day, we're playing a MMO. MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE (If I'm not mistaken )What happens when U take out the multiplayer? Yeah, you got basic RPG. And if you want that, you're better off with Fable or Oblivion. |
But before heroes, I can admit to it being a 50/50 between a bad pug and a good pug. If it were a 25/75 split, it wouldn't be heroes to blame in alot of peoples minds. The reason why heroes "took over" is because of the huge chance of bad PuGs.
Overall, this game in my opinion still has the best PvP gametype I've ever seen out of ANY online game that's an RPG. Even now at it's downfall point.
Although this game would have been one huge breakthrough, I believe Anet blew it from Factions onward. Grind (Yes, small but it counts) needed to continue into the story, and new professions, aswell as mechanics came into play. Shadowstepping being used makes positioning redundant, as you're at one end of the guy's aggro bubble, then you're at him, or with Return, you're away from him. The main part on Rits now is Ancestors' and Splinter Weapon.
Then came Nightfall, and with it the power creep. Scythes, spears, Paragons, Dervs, and all those stupid skills that had to be hit.
GW:EN, killed all build construction by introducing a new skill, Ursan (Along with Volfen and Raven) Blessing.
In a nutshell, this game has gone downhill.
NickelPlate
I guess my take is that it's just a game and nothing lasts forever. If you've done everything there is to do and it's not fun anymore then it's probably best to move on and/or wait for GW2. I have my moments where I get bored with it and don't play for awhile, and then I just get a spurt of energy and get back on to go grind for something, title, money etc.
BlackSephir
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Heroes killed PvE.
At the end of the day, we're playing a MMO. MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE (If I'm not mistaken ) |
Angel Killuminati
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Originally Posted by nekopowa
I don't know about others but for me it seemes that there's not much challenge in PvE anymore. I have to admit that recently i have no idea what to do when i log on, since nothing is really rewarding or fun anymore like in the good old times.
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pfaile
It's called hitting the wall, you reach a point were it is no longer fun or rewarding to play. I hit it about 2 weeks ago. Logging in day after day to do the same thing over and over for my HoM, just no longer fun. Took the chance and rolled with another MMORPG, having fun so far, checking back to see when we will get a tiny glimpse of GW2, hope they get it togethor soon.
Randvek
No new content = a lot of us playing other stuff. Will we come back? Nobody knows, and that seems to be a pretty big risk to take. The weekend events have been pretty lame, too, so not much incentive there (double Aspenwood? double tournament points? talk about limited appeal.).
I might even settle for some fan-made content at this point. There's just nothing new.
I might even settle for some fan-made content at this point. There's just nothing new.
super strokey
Why the hell do you people play this game anymore? You constantly hack on it and hate it to pieces. DONT PLAY IT ANYMORE THEN, move on to another game if you really hate it that much. You have gotten far more value out of the game than what it costed you.
Tyla
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Why the hell do you people play this game anymore? You constantly hack on it and hate it to pieces. DONT PLAY IT ANYMORE THEN, move on to another game if you really hate it that much. You have gotten far more value out of the game than what it costed you.
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quickmonty
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Rift
@super strokey: Because there just isn't anything else out there at the moment that's as good as GW. Look at all the boomerangers.
Although this can seem to currently be good for Anet, I think GW2 will also be casualty of its previous successes.
Although this can seem to currently be good for Anet, I think GW2 will also be casualty of its previous successes.
Buster
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Of course, i've you've done it multiple times over the past 3 years, it is boring.....
But farming ectos and spending money is fun |
Painbringer
The challenge is there you probably just stick to the same o ways of defeating everything.
Same group dynamics kills the fun of this game (searing flame setup/necro resto healer and minion factory setup / usan etc…) or you following the norm
You need to challenge yourself.
PUG the whole game… Random PUG from the beginning on
Start from scratch and do it again with one character use only skills you never used before.
Use only heroes you never used before run Koss as a Sin for fun or dunkoro as a mesmer
I posted this before and I have fun doing it from time to time… Start from scratch a new character and do not access storage and only use primary only skills. Buy armor if you can afford it only (no access to gold in storage) Use weapons found on the way.
Same group dynamics kills the fun of this game (searing flame setup/necro resto healer and minion factory setup / usan etc…) or you following the norm
You need to challenge yourself.
PUG the whole game… Random PUG from the beginning on
Start from scratch and do it again with one character use only skills you never used before.
Use only heroes you never used before run Koss as a Sin for fun or dunkoro as a mesmer
I posted this before and I have fun doing it from time to time… Start from scratch a new character and do not access storage and only use primary only skills. Buy armor if you can afford it only (no access to gold in storage) Use weapons found on the way.
Rothan Celt
Pve is still fun despite the titles and ursans i love vanquishing its just so much fun to 100% explore a area anyway i still enjoy pve and i dnt think that will change anytime soon. However titles did kinda make pve all about ....working
anyway i still enjoy pve and i dnt think that will change anytime soon. However titles did kinda make pve all about ....working
untouchable
I've been playing gw almost since its came out, and I've never been at a loss to find something to do. But maybe its because of my lack of interest in the content, I havn't watched any of the cut scenes after GoK, I've never watched any in factions, nf, or gwen either, the only time i've ever played with gw sound on was when i was FIRST playing.
I also strongly disagree with the hero comment, heros were the best thing they introduced into the game. When people suck, and henchmen suck, you wish you can make bars for the henchmen, theres nothing more frusterating that trying to play with some goof and i know alot of people would agree with me. Pugs suck almost 100% of the time, heros own almost 100% of the time.
I also strongly disagree with the hero comment, heros were the best thing they introduced into the game. When people suck, and henchmen suck, you wish you can make bars for the henchmen, theres nothing more frusterating that trying to play with some goof and i know alot of people would agree with me. Pugs suck almost 100% of the time, heros own almost 100% of the time.
Jetdoc
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It may just be me... but doing things "for fun" feels very very pointless...
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Riceboi
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If you're playing the game for anything but "having fun", you might want to re-evaluate why you are playing the game. Sounds like you might be ready to take a break if all of the alternative "rewards" in the game are jading you.
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Lagg
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Originally Posted by Killed u man
Heroes killed PvE.
At the end of the day, we're playing a MMO. MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE (If I'm not mistaken )What happens when U take out the multiplayer? Yeah, you got basic RPG. And if you want that, you're better off with Fable or Oblivion. I remember most PUGS I had. They were fun. Yeah, we ALL got pissed off that we had that one Wammo who decided to monk, because it is clearly ALOT better than a real monk, because he can't die... But it's that exact thing that puts feelings into the game. You are actually pissed-off. Humans are social beings by nature. Ok, we're playing a game, and most of us leave the basement once a month, but still... You ARE in fact playing with other ACTUAL people. It's that what makes MMO's so fun, the fact that U CAN show off your e-peen, the fact that U CAN be pissed-off at other people, ... Olias doesn't care if you fcuk up. Master of Whispers doesn't cry when your party whiped after a 3 hour vanquish. They ARN'T REAL. Pugs are... Yes, I "herowayed" alot in PvE, but whenever I had the chance to take a real life person for a Vanquish, I'dd gladly kick a hero, for the pug (with whatever random bar he has). In another thread, I explain how good leadership can be the succes of a pug. Well, I myself (when I pug), I get 1 thing clear with the other people, and that is that they won't rage and/or do acts out of rage. (Screw up the vanquish because some guy over-aggrood) |
Right on the head. It's where you've hit the nail.
wu is me
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Dude, they just cant add a realm of god like that.
We already already following a storyline, you cant just add BAD GUYS to peaceful realms. Theres Menzies annoying Balthazar and remants of Dhuum&Pals at Grenth's realm. Who would be causing trouble for Melandru and the others? |