Dragons Throughout Guild Wars
Free Runner
Thats just a statue. There are many like it in Cantha and that particular one is the same model as the two serpents from UW (which have nothing to do with the Ancient Dragons aswell). It should be noted that the Ancient Dragons are only visible in Eye of the North.
Konig Des Todes
If I recall correctly, there is also that snake-dragon thing in one of the HoH maps.
That dragon, and the two lighthouse dragons, have NOTHING to do with the Ancient Dragons, they are mearly statues that were designed to be used by the Dragon Empire.
I wish people would stop thinking those 5 things were Ancient Dragons... (those 5 things being the 2 lighthouses, the District head, and the twin serpents *which are probably what are seen in the HoH map*).
That dragon, and the two lighthouse dragons, have NOTHING to do with the Ancient Dragons, they are mearly statues that were designed to be used by the Dragon Empire.
I wish people would stop thinking those 5 things were Ancient Dragons... (those 5 things being the 2 lighthouses, the District head, and the twin serpents *which are probably what are seen in the HoH map*).
natmarie21
i'm not really big on gw lore, but i just had an idea...
what if tyria (the planet) was once infested with dragons-before humans, perhaps even before the great giants, they were at their peak, but then a natrual disaster caused the majority to be wiped out(a little like how the dinosaurs were wiped out). primordius maybe sensed that it was coming, like some animals can sense a storm, and told the most powerful dragons to hibernate, possibly told drakkar to freeze himself etc
at this point, kuunavang would still have been in his egg, and probably protected by it, maybe the disaster gave him more power. for a while after this, there was nothing, then the gods came along and the rest is gw history...
i'm probably wrong about this, but i thought that it could be pheasable and could explain a few things.
what if tyria (the planet) was once infested with dragons-before humans, perhaps even before the great giants, they were at their peak, but then a natrual disaster caused the majority to be wiped out(a little like how the dinosaurs were wiped out). primordius maybe sensed that it was coming, like some animals can sense a storm, and told the most powerful dragons to hibernate, possibly told drakkar to freeze himself etc
at this point, kuunavang would still have been in his egg, and probably protected by it, maybe the disaster gave him more power. for a while after this, there was nothing, then the gods came along and the rest is gw history...
i'm probably wrong about this, but i thought that it could be pheasable and could explain a few things.
Free Runner
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Originally Posted by natmarie21
i'm not really big on gw lore, but i just had an idea...
what if tyria (the planet) was once infested with dragons-before humans, perhaps even before the great giants, they were at their peak, but then a natrual disaster caused the majority to be wiped out(a little like how the dinosaurs were wiped out). primordius maybe sensed that it was coming, like some animals can sense a storm, and told the most powerful dragons to hibernate, possibly told drakkar to freeze himself etc at this point, kuunavang would still have been in his egg, and probably protected by it, maybe the disaster gave him more power. for a while after this, there was nothing, then the gods came along and the rest is gw history... i'm probably wrong about this, but i thought that it could be pheasable and could explain a few things. |
Something may of caused the Ancient Dragons to enter their deep sleep. But i doubt it was something like a natural disaster. I'm pretty sure they would of thought of a way to escape the disaster without having to sleep - and even when sleeping how could they have avoided such a disaster. Two of the Ancient Dragons we see are pretty exposed.
I'm thinking the dragons were forced into their sleep or pushed to a limit by something. They obviously had plans to wake up and i personally think each Dragon is independent. Alot of people seem to think Primordus would be the leader of the dragons due to him being the first to awaken and having a solid name but we cant be sure they follow anyone - even another dragon.
Oh and Kuunavang is a she. We only know that Kuunavang is at least 200 years old though - we dont know if shes as old as Glint. Which is what i was saying about the whole origin thing. We're given Glints origin but Kuunavang is the seer of Factions with little backstory given. She only serves to drive the heroes forward like the seers did and we're not told anything other than she was a dragon that was trapped in the harvest temple - but what was a dragon doing inside the Harvest Temple in the first place? just being inside it must of meant that she had some importance.
Lishy
In the catacombs in pre-searing, under a bridge, you can see the corpse of a HUUUGE dragon.
It really is worth checking out.
It really is worth checking out.
Free Runner
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In the catacombs in pre-searing, under a bridge, you can see the corpse of a HUUUGE dragon.
It really is worth checking out. |
natmarie21
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Originally Posted by Free Runner
and even when sleeping how could they have avoided such a disaster. Two of the Ancient Dragons we see are pretty exposed.
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good idea though about being forced into hibernation. and has anyone considered that these ancient dragons could be gods? we know that they can make life, we know that they are powerful, i read somewhere that they could 'challenge the gods themselves'. could these 'gods' have ruled over a once powerful civilisation, which the true gods ended up wiping out or something, so the dragons 'played dead' and will return for revenge on the true gods by wiping out their civilisation at it's peak, and rebuilding their own?
i don't think that there would have been any records of thme for 3 reasons:
1. they might not have been able to write
2. scholars in present day guild wars might not be able to translate them(asssuming that if records were written at all, they would have been written in a different language)
3. it was a long time ago, and records could have been lost or destroyed over time
you may be thinking that dwayna would be able to tell if they were dead or just in deep slumber, seeing as she is the god of life, well, what if all of these dragons attuned to something-ruled over something. if this were so, i'd guess that drakkar was god over water & ice, grothmar was god of land, and primordius....i don't know about him yet, maybe fire, or dungoens(?) i'm making these guesses based on their locations in EotN. them ruling over these things may make them harder to spot even by the gods, maybe there was a nature ritual or something. they seem to all have been well equiped in these places, known how to survive, even though some were in the open, nothing stopping natures harsh winds and snowstorms able to take its toll on the sleeping dragons, or maybe that was just because they were born survivors.
i'm probably wrong about this, but i thought that it could explain alot.
Capua
I don't think the dragons and the current gods have never seen, or faced each other, simply because I've always been of the understanding that the pantheon aren't as old as the Dragons.
Though i may be wrong?
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Sleeping monsters, aeon's old, have awakened. They crawled from beneath the earth, razor claws sinking into stone and ground over a world that has not seen their like in millennia
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Free Runner
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Originally Posted by natmarie21
they could have cast a spell(we can safely assume that they use magic as vekk said that the place around primordius 'practically bleeds magic') or something to keep them safe, to 'fasten their seat-belts'. also if it happened to the planet tyria, they wouldn't be able to escape. and gw as far as i know doesn't include space ships.
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Well if they had powerful magic that could help them to survive i'm sure they would of used it without sleeping for thousands of years.
Also the gods theories are popular ones. They range from the dragons being defeated by a previous set of gods, the dragons being a previous set of gods and the dragons being weapons of the gods. There are quite a few of them out there.
And of course Tyrias history only begins to be recorded at the disappearence of the Giganticus Lupicus (and the Dragons stretch back further than that). So nobody knows the dragons exist until they physically show themselves.
Konig Des Todes
As Free Runner already commented on most of what natmarie said, I'll only comment on this part.
If the Ancient Dragons where once gods, of the dragons we know of it would be this:
Primordus: Earth and Fire
"Drakkar": Snow and Ice
"Grothmar": Nature
"Undead Dragon": Life/Death (maybe one, maybe both)
"Deep Sea Dragon": Water (maybe darkness, as it sleeps in the "darkest, deepest area of the sea")
"Desert Dragon"(if it is not the same as "Grothmar"): ?Sand? (too little on this one if it is a separate dragon from Grothmar)
Personally, until it is proven, I tend to think the "chronology of the gods" were this:
1. Ancient Dragons
2. Ancient Gods (Arachnia*if not a tossed concept*/Dhuum were a part of, maybe Abaddon)
3. "True Gods" (Dwayna, Balthazar, Melandru, Grenth, Lyssa, Kormir)
With that idea, I would say that the Ancient Dragons were beaten by the "Ancient Gods," but not killed, like how Dhuum and Abaddon *first time* were. Then the "Ancient Gods" were killed off by the "True Gods" because the "Ancient Gods" were unjust and cruel (it is known Dhuum and Abaddon were unjust and/or cruel, and if Arachnia is not a tossed concept, then she/it would probably have been as well).
Until it is proven other-wise, that is the one of a million "Dragons as old gods" ideas that I go with.
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what if all of these dragons attuned to something-ruled over something. if this were so, i'd guess that drakkar was god over water & ice, grothmar was god of land, and primordius....i don't know about him yet, maybe fire, or dungoens(?)
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Primordus: Earth and Fire
"Drakkar": Snow and Ice
"Grothmar": Nature
"Undead Dragon": Life/Death (maybe one, maybe both)
"Deep Sea Dragon": Water (maybe darkness, as it sleeps in the "darkest, deepest area of the sea")
"Desert Dragon"(if it is not the same as "Grothmar"): ?Sand? (too little on this one if it is a separate dragon from Grothmar)
Personally, until it is proven, I tend to think the "chronology of the gods" were this:
1. Ancient Dragons
2. Ancient Gods (Arachnia*if not a tossed concept*/Dhuum were a part of, maybe Abaddon)
3. "True Gods" (Dwayna, Balthazar, Melandru, Grenth, Lyssa, Kormir)
With that idea, I would say that the Ancient Dragons were beaten by the "Ancient Gods," but not killed, like how Dhuum and Abaddon *first time* were. Then the "Ancient Gods" were killed off by the "True Gods" because the "Ancient Gods" were unjust and cruel (it is known Dhuum and Abaddon were unjust and/or cruel, and if Arachnia is not a tossed concept, then she/it would probably have been as well).
Until it is proven other-wise, that is the one of a million "Dragons as old gods" ideas that I go with.
Free Runner
I've added some of the concept art and fixed a couple of broken links.
Wouldnt Primordus be Fire with Grothmar being Earth? Melandru is the God of Earth and Nature with Balthazar being the God of War and Fire.
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Primordus: Earth and Fire
"Drakkar": Snow and Ice "Grothmar": Nature "Undead Dragon": Life/Death (maybe one, maybe both) "Deep Sea Dragon": Water (maybe darkness, as it sleeps in the "darkest, deepest area of the sea") "Desert Dragon"(if it is not the same as "Grothmar"): ?Sand? (too little on this one if it is a separate dragon from Grothmar) |
Flinte
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The Underworld dragons were twin brothers who challenged grenth and lost, how you see them is their punishment. |
Free Runner
Its stated by the Reaper of the Twin Serpent Mountains:
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"Long ago, the god of death was challenged to a duel by two brothers. Grenth was so angered by these two mortals, that instead of simply granting them the sweet peace of death, he turned them into twin serpents and forced them to serve him in the Rift for the rest of eternity. This mountain stands as a reminder to all those who serve Grenth. Be careful that you do not incur such a punishment."
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Konig Des Todes
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Wouldnt Primordus be Fire with Grothmar being Earth? Melandru is the God of Earth and Nature with Balthazar being the God of War and Fire.
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The corruption is also what I used for the labeling.
Primordus corrupts stone and fire
Drakkar corrupts ice and snow
Grothmar corrupts nature
The Deep Sea Dragon corrupts water *noticeably, in a very similar way to Abaddon with the tendrils*
The Undead Dragon corrupts the undead and living.
Edit: Would like to mention that you do not have the Deep Sea Dragon on the front page
. Need a concept art? I got one, look at the attachment.
Free Runner
Ah yes you can put that down to multiple edits. I've readded the Deep Sea Dragon though i cant find any possible concept art so it will have to do with just a description.
Gmr Leon
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Edit: Would like to mention that you do not have the Deep Sea Dragon on the front page
. Need a concept art? I got one, look at the attachment. |
Free Runner
Yes i dont think a Goat Sucker would do well as a Deep Sea Dragon.
Konig Des Todes
The picture is called chupacabra, but I've seen many many concept arts with weird or unusual names. It seems they are mostly just names.
If you don't think it's the Deep Sea Dragon, then don't use it. I think it matches the concept perfectly, a fish-like creature jumping out and back into the water. I don't think a goat eater would do that.
If you don't think it's the Deep Sea Dragon, then don't use it. I think it matches the concept perfectly, a fish-like creature jumping out and back into the water. I don't think a goat eater would do that.
stouda01
found this on gamesradar.com in gw2 screenshots..look at the horns..look's slightly like grothmar's horns 
..I know it's not 100% same but which concept art is same as ingame model?
Isn't it some tormented cerature? xd
..I know it's not 100% same but which concept art is same as ingame model? Quote:
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Edit: Would like to mention that you do not have the Deep Sea Dragon on the front page . Need a concept art? I got one, look at the attachment. |
Konig Des Todes
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found this on gamesradar.com in gw2 screenshots..look at the horns..look's slightly like grothmar's horns
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draxynnic
Check the concept art section of the magazine that has the Ecology of the Charr article - the 'chupucabras' apparently became one of the subspecies of Skelk.
Konig Des Todes
If you mean this:
I don't think that is the same creature. as the drawing it is talking about *I believe it is the necromancer skelk, uses same model as the Raptors* does not have any fish-like parts.
Another thought on the name of the picture I showed above, perhaps the "nickname" for the Deep Sea Dragon was a chupacabra until they could think of a real name. That is, if it is the Deep Sea Dragon, although I would think the name Cthulhu would fit better
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An initial chupacabra design for Eye of the North. The anatomy is based on rattlesnakes, velociraptors, and insects. This creature later became a member of the Skelk family
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Another thought on the name of the picture I showed above, perhaps the "nickname" for the Deep Sea Dragon was a chupacabra until they could think of a real name. That is, if it is the Deep Sea Dragon, although I would think the name Cthulhu would fit better
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Free Runner
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found this on gamesradar.com in gw2 screenshots..look at the horns..look's slightly like grothmar's horns
..I know it's not 100% same but which concept art is same as ingame model? |
I am also going to be treating the Dragon in Grothmar Wardowns as a different Dragon to the one in the desert until we gain more info. Also the concept art i have in place for the Undead Dragon of Orr and the Desert Dragon is not confirmed and was chosen only due to names and appearences. The only concept art verified is the one of Primordus and the one of "The Dragon of Grothmar Wardowns" - and you should note that the concept art is very exaggerated in terms of size.
Neo Atomisk
Well, the discussion in the other topic was getting very, very off topic, so I figured I should make a new one. (I also want to bring up a few new things.
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/kapra/newGW/gw040.jpg
Upon the first view of this image, you'll realize I'm REALLY bad in MS paint.
But, there were a few things I wanted to say.
Red Dot = Primordus' starting location (where he went to sleep)
Red Line = Primordus' flight path over Ascalon down to the Crystal Desert (if he does do that). I feel like Primordus would be the Dragon to fly down over Ascalon, as the far north Dragon is preoccupied with the Norn, the Ice cliff serpent doesn't appear to have wings, Drakkar will most likely be in the north, and Grothmar is too fat to fly.
Green Dot = Far north dragon's estimated starting point
Green Line = Far north dragon's estimated flight path down to the crystal desert (if he does do that)
Dark green line = The far north dragon's conquest of the far shiverpeaks (thus pushing the norn south). I feel like he is the most likely one to push the Norn south, as it could easily "push" them south, whereas Drakkar or the Ice cliff serpent might have geographic problems.
Blue dot = Drakkar
Blue arrow = Drakkar pushing the norn south. He is the alternative to the far north dragon moving the Norn out of their homes, but I feel for some reason that he stays in the north, I don't know why. (maybe Drakkar is the dragon from the far northern peaks?)
Pink dot = Malchor's rising point
Pink Line = I think that this would be about Malchor's area of control if he is the dragon that controls the Crystal Desert. The only conflict here would be with Primordus, so if Primordus is the dragon that flies down, cut out the SE corner of his territory.
Light blue dot = Grothmar
Purple dot = Ice cliff serpent.
Red Box = Wth is this thing? I've wanted to know forever. I feel like it might be the Volcano where the Charr found the titans, but we haven't seen any proof that Charr can use boats, so I doubt it.
Black lines = AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES THIS? I swear to god that Kryta and the body of water south of it are a face.
Well, I have no clue what I'm even saying, so if you don't follow my logic, meh. I know that a lot of things I've said in this post make no sense or conflict with other statements, so if there's something wrong, please correct me. I'm trying to make a visual organizer of what's going on in Tyria, as I have trouble keeping up with the non-visual topics.
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/kapra/newGW/gw040.jpg
Upon the first view of this image, you'll realize I'm REALLY bad in MS paint.
But, there were a few things I wanted to say.
Red Dot = Primordus' starting location (where he went to sleep)
Red Line = Primordus' flight path over Ascalon down to the Crystal Desert (if he does do that). I feel like Primordus would be the Dragon to fly down over Ascalon, as the far north Dragon is preoccupied with the Norn, the Ice cliff serpent doesn't appear to have wings, Drakkar will most likely be in the north, and Grothmar is too fat to fly.
Green Dot = Far north dragon's estimated starting point
Green Line = Far north dragon's estimated flight path down to the crystal desert (if he does do that)
Dark green line = The far north dragon's conquest of the far shiverpeaks (thus pushing the norn south). I feel like he is the most likely one to push the Norn south, as it could easily "push" them south, whereas Drakkar or the Ice cliff serpent might have geographic problems.
Blue dot = Drakkar
Blue arrow = Drakkar pushing the norn south. He is the alternative to the far north dragon moving the Norn out of their homes, but I feel for some reason that he stays in the north, I don't know why. (maybe Drakkar is the dragon from the far northern peaks?)
Pink dot = Malchor's rising point
Pink Line = I think that this would be about Malchor's area of control if he is the dragon that controls the Crystal Desert. The only conflict here would be with Primordus, so if Primordus is the dragon that flies down, cut out the SE corner of his territory.
Light blue dot = Grothmar
Purple dot = Ice cliff serpent.
Red Box = Wth is this thing? I've wanted to know forever. I feel like it might be the Volcano where the Charr found the titans, but we haven't seen any proof that Charr can use boats, so I doubt it.
Black lines = AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES THIS? I swear to god that Kryta and the body of water south of it are a face.
Well, I have no clue what I'm even saying, so if you don't follow my logic, meh. I know that a lot of things I've said in this post make no sense or conflict with other statements, so if there's something wrong, please correct me. I'm trying to make a visual organizer of what's going on in Tyria, as I have trouble keeping up with the non-visual topics.
riceangel
That is one scary face. Anyway, EoTN added a lot of land to the map, i was hoping we would get to explore those areas(like the big black island). Also who is Malchor, coudlnt find anything on wiki
Also according to this Grothmar flys south
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Grothmar
Also according to this Grothmar flys south
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Grothmar
Neo Atomisk
Until Grothmar's flight has been confirmed by Anet, it can't be taken seriously. (look at the Grothmar topic)
I'm going to edit that page on gww2.
Malchor is the undead dragon, you wont find it on the wiki, which is a horrible source for lore.
I'm going to edit that page on gww2.
Malchor is the undead dragon, you wont find it on the wiki, which is a horrible source for lore.
Dont Nerf The Perma
Yeah i hope that island is the volcano the charr found. I wonder if the dragons become the new charr gods? Mabye your charr charecters are the good charr who are trying to kill the shamans. That'd be a pretty cool sidequest from the main story line.
Neo Atomisk
The Shaman caste has already been overthrown in gw2.
Dont Nerf The Perma
Yeah but that was just one shaman, what about the shaman's relatives or their children? They probably make a come back in GW2.
I hope they do at least.
I hope they do at least.
Neo Atomisk
Similar to Justicar Naveed's quest chain? that would be an intresting sidequest...
Gmr Leon
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Yeah but that was just one shaman, what about the shaman's relatives or their children? They probably make a come back in GW2.
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Also, Neo, does Guru not have a spoiler tag function? That image is stretching the page irritatingly.
draxynnic
Actually, from my own memory of the Ecology of the Charr, the Shamans are still around in GW2... but are barely above slaves on the social ladder, kept around because they're useful with the rest of the Charr determined to keep them in their place. Depending on just how broad the Charr define 'shamans' to be, this could have interesting ramifications for Charr magic-using professions in GW2, with some or all potentially facing prejudice. (This could in fact be a reason for Charr PCs to go renegade and possible join human guilds... making a reversal of the non-Shaman alliance with humans in EOTN.) Of course, the presence of Charr spellcasters in Pyre's warband might suggest otherwise, but it still wouldn't surprise me if the GW2 Charr keep the martial professions firmly on top just in case.
Regarding Drakkar... I think it's quite reasonably for Drakkar to push the Norn south. Most Norn population centres are in fact south of Drakkar Lake, and those that aren't may well be the first to fall. Or it's also possible that some Norn were pushed north as well as south, but those that were pushed north either perished or found themselves isolated.
Regarding Drakkar... I think it's quite reasonably for Drakkar to push the Norn south. Most Norn population centres are in fact south of Drakkar Lake, and those that aren't may well be the first to fall. Or it's also possible that some Norn were pushed north as well as south, but those that were pushed north either perished or found themselves isolated.
Konig Des Todes
fixed the Grothmar article for you Neo. Grothmar IS the water dragon, just unknown if he's the one who flies south.
The Shaman Caste was overthrown 40 years after EN, for good. Also, Gold Legion is NOT the Shaman Caste. Shamans were leaders of all four legions the Flame Legion took the blunt of everything though for finding the Titans and attempting to be the prime legion. [Edit: Also, Shamans were not all casters, there are Charr Shamans in EN which are Warriors]
Leon: No, it doesn't.
I fear to comment on the map.... especially the black lines... >_>
Malchor's territory looks too big if he was the Desert Dragon. Primordus just seems illogical to be such (he'd have all the depths to himself, if he wanted domain, he'd have plenty along with the perfect attack spot, underneath everyone)
You forgot Grothmar on the map
I do think that Drakkar is the Dragon of Snow and Ice, due to Svanir, the comment on the concept art for it, the monsters on top of it, and its location is all I need to think such.
The Mursaat area is off topic.
The Shaman Caste was overthrown 40 years after EN, for good. Also, Gold Legion is NOT the Shaman Caste. Shamans were leaders of all four legions the Flame Legion took the blunt of everything though for finding the Titans and attempting to be the prime legion. [Edit: Also, Shamans were not all casters, there are Charr Shamans in EN which are Warriors]
Leon: No, it doesn't.
I fear to comment on the map.... especially the black lines... >_>
Malchor's territory looks too big if he was the Desert Dragon. Primordus just seems illogical to be such (he'd have all the depths to himself, if he wanted domain, he'd have plenty along with the perfect attack spot, underneath everyone)
You forgot Grothmar on the map
I do think that Drakkar is the Dragon of Snow and Ice, due to Svanir, the comment on the concept art for it, the monsters on top of it, and its location is all I need to think such.
The Mursaat area is off topic.
draxynnic
The impression I have is that the Shamans from the other legions were either recruited or subverted (depending on whether there was a shaman caste before the discovery of the Titans) by the Flame Legion as part of the bid for control - but the Flame Legion was certainly the power behind Titan worship (and, later, Destroyer worship). Furthermore, I think it's at least implied that the Gold Legion continues in at least some shamanistic practises.
I'll have to have another look at the article when I get home.
I'll have to have another look at the article when I get home.
Konig Des Todes
Not sure if the Shamans were around before the Titans, but it sounds like they were (because if they had to agree to worship the Titans, it should mean that they were not all Titan Shamans from the get go). The Shamans are "a source of magic" so to speak, and that is why they were kept alive, however not all Shamans are magic users and not all magic users seem to be shamans.
Also, Neo please shrink your image!!!!!! It's too big. >_<
Also, Neo please shrink your image!!!!!! It's too big. >_<
Helix Dreadlock
No underworld dragon? (Serpent mountains)?
it'd explain the tails coming out've rocks...maybe thats why the CB's are so mean :P
it'd explain the tails coming out've rocks...maybe thats why the CB's are so mean :P
Gmr Leon
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Not sure if the Shamans were around before the Titans, but it sounds like they were (because if they had to agree to worship the Titans, it should mean that they were not all Titan Shamans from the get go). The Shamans are "a source of magic" so to speak, and that is why they were kept alive, however not all Shamans are magic users and not all magic users seem to be shamans.
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The Gods gave the humans more magic, I imagine, and it's with this that they pushed back the Charr in the first place, and then began killing each other. Which is also why they had to introduce the Bloodstones.
Konig Des Todes
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No underworld dragon? (Serpent mountains)?
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Edit: Also, Definition of Shaman:
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–noun (esp. among certain tribal peoples) a person who acts as intermediary between the natural and supernatural worlds, using magic to cure illness, foretell the future, control spiritual forces, etc.
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Operative 14
I'm sorry, but this has been bugging me since the other topic. How do we know that Grothmar is the water dragon?
Gmr Leon
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I'm sorry, but this has been bugging me since the other topic. How do we know that Grothmar is the water dragon?
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Also, here's my version of Neo's map, note, the map was not created by me, merely modified by me to note the presence of the dragons and other groups to exist in GW2. I left out the Sylvari and Primordus as with the latter I'd have to cover practically the entire map, and the former, is basically a minority.
Edit: Er..Photobucket is down for site maintenance at the moment, so whenever that finishes I'll post my image. And yes, I refuse to use Imageshack.
And here it is.