Hi,
First of all i would like no negative criticism on this proposal of all the Perma sin farmers here, i have been doing it myself but this madness has to stop before the economy takes another enormous hit
as many of you know the perma sin has been farming the UW like crazy and people do it all the time, now i've been checking some skill lists and found some skills to buff the Mindblade Spectres that are being farmed on the Chaos Planes without violating the Core of the UW
so here is my suggestion
add [signet of humility] or [blackout] to the Mindblade spectres their skillbar
this would just nerf the farm and not directly ruin the perma sin so people can still farm with their loved perma sin on places other then the Chaos Planes
Thank you for reading and i hope to see some good comments on this
Alastor The Undead
Buff on the Mindblade Spectres in the UW
N1ghtstalker
RotteN
[[signet of humility] would be a possibility, as it's a core skill
[[blackout] however is a prophecies skill, so that won't be added to a core instance.
However, People will farm ecto's no matter what you try and do. Chaos Plains isn't the only place where you can farm them. I don't see any reason in OMG NERF THIS crying. So what if stuff gets cheaper ? imo that's a good change. That way we can all enjoy whatever we like best.
[[blackout] however is a prophecies skill, so that won't be added to a core instance.
However, People will farm ecto's no matter what you try and do. Chaos Plains isn't the only place where you can farm them. I don't see any reason in OMG NERF THIS crying. So what if stuff gets cheaper ? imo that's a good change. That way we can all enjoy whatever we like best.
joshuarodger
that would make actually clearing the UW with a real team much harder than it already is.
/notsigned
/notsigned
zwei2stein
Meh. Blackout is too strong and would ruin normal gameplay (there is enough of mindblades to blackout whole party and some more to wreak havoc.)
Humility sig looks decent but i have farmed stuff with humi sig on its bar and it was not very effective against me.
If you want something to harm permaers, add monster on chaos plains; random spawn upon agroing:
Fading Nightmare.
L 1 Mesmer monster. Permanent -1 health regen.
Signet of Disenchantment
Signet of Midnight
Leech Signet
Should be easy to handle for skilled, but would requite modified (aka, not mindless) tactics.
Humility sig looks decent but i have farmed stuff with humi sig on its bar and it was not very effective against me.
If you want something to harm permaers, add monster on chaos plains; random spawn upon agroing:
Fading Nightmare.
L 1 Mesmer monster. Permanent -1 health regen.
Signet of Disenchantment
Signet of Midnight
Leech Signet
Should be easy to handle for skilled, but would requite modified (aka, not mindless) tactics.
Marverick
IMO, give Banished Dream Riders Signet of Disenchantment. Leave the Mindblades alone.
This way, you can still farm Chaos Planes by luring SoD with cover enchantments, but no longer can you aggro every single Banished Dream Rider and kill them all together. This would slow down the run and put it on par with other runs.
This way, you can still farm Chaos Planes by luring SoD with cover enchantments, but no longer can you aggro every single Banished Dream Rider and kill them all together. This would slow down the run and put it on par with other runs.
N1ghtstalker
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[[signet of humility] would be a possibility, as it's a core skill
[[blackout] however is a prophecies skill, so that won't be added to a core instance. However, People will farm ecto's no matter what you try and do. Chaos Plains isn't the only place where you can farm them. I don't see any reason in OMG NERF THIS crying. So what if stuff gets cheaper ? imo that's a good change. That way we can all enjoy whatever we like best. |
the smite crawlers have [shield of judgment] wich is proph only
Abedeus
Yeah. I mean Marverick's post. Mindblades are okay, as soon as they target a caster without obsidian flesh/shadow form/spell breaker, he is unable to cast ANYTHING. Blackout would be too imbalanced.
But Signet of Disenchantment would greatly harm, if not totally kill Assassins there.
But Signet of Disenchantment would greatly harm, if not totally kill Assassins there.
joshuarodger
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Meh. Blackout is too strong and would ruin normal gameplay (there is enough of mindblades to blackout whole party and some more to wreak havoc.)
Humility sig looks decent but i have farmed stuff with humi sig on its bar and it was not very effective against me. If you want something to harm permaers, add monster on chaos plains; random spawn upon agroing: Fading Nightmare. L 1 Mesmer monster. Permanent -1 health regen. Signet of Disenchantment Signet of Midnight Leech Signet Should be easy to handle for skilled, but would requite modified (aka, not mindless) tactics. |
Mitchel
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So what if stuff gets cheaper ? imo that's a good change. That way we can all enjoy whatever we like best.
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zelgadissan
[Signet of Humility] seems like the better choice for normal team play so that people don't get raped by the vast numbers. [Blackout] would just destroy normal teams....
...wait, that means that Ursan skills would get blacked out. In that case, also give them [Echo] with it.
/signed
...wait, that means that Ursan skills would get blacked out. In that case, also give them [Echo] with it.
/signed
Joseph Leito
/signed.
Guild Wars is a team game, the elite areas should be more so. Besides, the SF Farmers are cheap bastards anyway.
Guild Wars is a team game, the elite areas should be more so. Besides, the SF Farmers are cheap bastards anyway.
zwei2stein
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so basically a mesmer version of a dying nightmare but easier to kill? no way this would work you just stay out of its range then wand it. or if it's a pop up you insta-target it and kill it. just like a dying nightmare. the only UW farmers that have problems with nightmares are low HP enchant heavy farmers. this would be the same thing.
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Sure you can wand it. That is it whole point. Its there to punish you for not paying attention/playing poorly, while not killing run totally.
Remeber, if it gets your SF with disenchant signet (it should have just enough time to do.) you are left with some 55 hp totally vulnurelable to everything.
Tyla
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All farming is easy, it's a matter of spawns and manipulation of the AI.
If it's a team game, nerf all solo farming and actually put the "elite" in "elite mission".
If you're going to nerf this, nerf all other solo farms aswell.
All farming is easy, it's a matter of spawns and manipulation of the AI.
If it's a team game, nerf all solo farming and actually put the "elite" in "elite mission".
If you're going to nerf this, nerf all other solo farms aswell.
angusyng2003
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that would make actually clearing the UW with a real team much harder than it already is.
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Sypherious
/notsigned
Sick of people complaining about the perma sin. Just leave it already. Sick of these threads, STOP MAKING THEM.
And to the OP. make a sin and use it, that will change your mind.
Sick of people complaining about the perma sin. Just leave it already. Sick of these threads, STOP MAKING THEM.
And to the OP. make a sin and use it, that will change your mind.
BlackSephir
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/signed.
Guild Wars is a team game, the elite areas should be more so. Besides, the SF Farmers are cheap bastards anyway. |
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If it's a team game, nerf all solo farming and actually put the "elite" in "elite mission". If you're going to nerf this, nerf all other solo farms aswell. |
Sora267
/notsigned
Perma SF was possible BEFORE the buff, using Arcane Echo. People have been farming ecto in Chaos Plains for AGES, and it hasn't affected the price at ALL.
Perma SF was possible BEFORE the buff, using Arcane Echo. People have been farming ecto in Chaos Plains for AGES, and it hasn't affected the price at ALL.
Motoko Chika
:P I like my perma sin..farm more ectos!!! PERMA SINS UNITE..Okay I'm done.
RhanoctJocosa
economy's been ruined for ages, get over it
/not signed
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RotteN
Rather than putting it on the mindblades i'd rather put [[signet of humility] or [[blackout] on the dream riders (all dream riders, also those in TotPK). It'd affect balanced teams that try to clear these area's less.
Or we could ofcourse just leave it as it is and stop making the 9878675643rd post about it ...
Or we could ofcourse just leave it as it is and stop making the 9878675643rd post about it ...
legacyofkain85
i like ectos price to get lower ,i would like them even being at 1k each or less,maybe i could finally get an fow armor than,i simply refuse to pay 500k+for an fow armor
xPIMPx
Take away my precious ectos !? No Thanks. Ectos easier to get, ectos getting cheaper so everyone is benefiting from it !
joshuarodger
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Originally Posted by RotteN
Rather than putting it on the mindblades i'd rather put [[signet of humility] or [[blackout] on the dream riders (all dream riders, also those in TotPK). It'd affect balanced teams that try to clear these area's less.
Or we could ofcourse just leave it as it is and stop making the 9878675643rd post about it ... |
Joseph Leito
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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
Yes, 55s, w/rts and other bastards are the good guys here.
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N1ghtstalker
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/notsigned
Sick of people complaining about the perma sin. Just leave it already. Sick of these threads, STOP MAKING THEM. And to the OP. make a sin and use it, that will change your mind. |
i have a sin, she's a year old and i've done the running
but all this has to stop before the ecto market crashes
Turtle222
/notsigned,
What's the point?
There really shouldn't have been an ecto market to begin with. Never in any other game did i have to resort to using pink blobs as cash tickets
What's the point?
There really shouldn't have been an ecto market to begin with. Never in any other game did i have to resort to using pink blobs as cash tickets
farmerfez
The economy has gotten better since the update imo. Ecto prices are actually fluctuating and not just stagnant like they used to be...
MisterT69
/not signed, it's not like the only way to farm UW is with [glyph of swiftness][deadly paradox][shadow form]. People have been farming with arcane echo and SF since NF came out and we had access to [deadly paradox]. So it's not like this entire phenomenon was created at the last update.
Lykan
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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
economy's been ruined for ages, get over it
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p.s and also as about 75% of this forum is doing the a/e farm i dont think you'll get much support for this suggestion.
Koricen
Enough of this "for the economy crap". The economy is the same as it's been for a long time, SF hasn't effected it.
You need to stop making that same arguement over and over, and learn to read.
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And to the OP. make a sin and use it, that will change your mind
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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
i have been doing it myself but this madness has to stop
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Molock
/signed for Signet of Disenchantment on the Banished Dream Riders.
This way the farm wouldn't be impossible but simply more complex and time consuming.
This way the farm wouldn't be impossible but simply more complex and time consuming.
Molock
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Originally Posted by legacyofkain85
i like ectos price to get lower ,i would like them even being at 1k each or less,maybe i could finally get an fow armor than,i simply refuse to pay 500k+for an fow armor
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EinherjarMx
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Or we could ofcourse just leave it as it is and stop making the 9878675643rd post about it ...
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Sypherious
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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
you're just proving you didn't read my topic clearly
i have a sin, she's a year old and i've done the running but all this has to stop before the ecto market crashes |
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So instead of nerfing SF (the root of the problem) you would rather buff mindblades so that it's tougher now for normal groups as well as farmers?
/notsigned
/notsigned
t00115577
Why nerf it?
the honest farmers arent the problem with GW economy, its the hackers,dupers,ebayers that are having an effect on it.
(you know who you are, and so does everyone else with just 1 quick glance at high end section :/)
Having stacks and stacks of ectos, bidding thousands of ectos on 1 item, thats whats wrong with economy. Everybody knows you ebay or benifited from that dupe hack a few yrs back. Its only ye who will suffer as 90% of ye're wealth is in ecto stacks, leave regular gamers alone.
/notsigned
the honest farmers arent the problem with GW economy, its the hackers,dupers,ebayers that are having an effect on it.
(you know who you are, and so does everyone else with just 1 quick glance at high end section :/)
Having stacks and stacks of ectos, bidding thousands of ectos on 1 item, thats whats wrong with economy. Everybody knows you ebay or benifited from that dupe hack a few yrs back. Its only ye who will suffer as 90% of ye're wealth is in ecto stacks, leave regular gamers alone.
/notsigned
N1ghtstalker
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Originally Posted by Sypherious
No, anyone who makes a thread relating to shadow form is complaining about it in some way. I read your post thoroughly, but it's still complaining IMO.
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just something to stop this farm as so many people are against it
if not
just give the skill specific to one from the entire group so it won't be overpowered
MithranArkanere
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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
but the UW always had core and proph skills in it
the smite crawlers have [shield of judgment] wich is proph only |
They started as the Prophecies elite missions.
But now they are core.
So builds should be reqowked there to include Core skills ONLY.
Sypherious
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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
i didn't post this to complain or QQ whatever
just something to stop this farm as so many people are against it if not just give the skill specific to one from the entire group so it won't be overpowered |
And really, there are few people who are against it, most of those people don't have factions and are jealous of other people using sins. The rest are just like "Hey, I SF farm, and i make tons of money, but nerf it, so i can't make as much money". Stupid shit like that makes no sense, and shouldnt even be considered.
Basically what you're saying to the SF farmers is, "Screw you, I don't want you farming anymore." How does Shadow Form possibly effect you? Why do you care enough about it to make this thread? Are you jealous that other people are getting shittons of money and you're not? I want an answer.
N1ghtstalker
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Originally Posted by Sypherious
Well, stop trying to stop SF farming. All these threads are doing is pissing people off that use SF, and everyone who makes a thread like this is making absolutely no influence at all.
And really, there are few people who are against it, most of those people don't have factions and are jealous of other people using sins. The rest are just like "Hey, I SF farm, and i make tons of money, but nerf it, so i can't make as much money". Stupid shit like that makes no sense, and shouldnt even be considered. Basically what you're saying to the SF farmers is, "Screw you, I don't want you farming anymore." How does Shadow Form possibly effect you? Why do you care enough about it to make this thread? Are you jealous that other people are getting shittons of money and you're not? I want an answer. |
i farm more then just ectos with my sin and i'm not a greedy f*ck like some other people that made sins just for this
but someone who worked for his fow armor is gonna see his armor devaluate with like 500k with this farm