Buff on the Mindblade Spectres in the UW
mrmango
Meh, the economy sucks as it is. making UW harder sounds fun for the heck of it. /signed.
PinkD
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very disagreed to nerf SF again. i also dislike the idea of people who afraid that somebody else make money more than they can.
i bought GW because i think it nice game, i do like farming as well and i enjoy the game so much. if you think SF making GW economy gone bad... you should be concern about 55 monk bots will return after buff mystic regeneration.
now stop posting about nerf SF...Anet should Nerf you instead. i'm sick of it. try something else more creative!
very disagreed to nerf SF again. i also dislike the idea of people who afraid that somebody else make money more than they can.
i bought GW because i think it nice game, i do like farming as well and i enjoy the game so much. if you think SF making GW economy gone bad... you should be concern about 55 monk bots will return after buff mystic regeneration.
now stop posting about nerf SF...Anet should Nerf you instead. i'm sick of it. try something else more creative!
itsvictor
/unsigned...Ecto prices are still stable, the only thing different is buying sh!t gets annoying when there are loads of other people next to you offering the same thing for an ambrace.
N1ghtstalker
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very disagreed to nerf SF again. i also dislike the idea of people who afraid that somebody else make money more than they can. i bought GW because i think it nice game, i do like farming as well and i enjoy the game so much. if you think SF making GW economy gone bad... you should be concern about 55 monk bots will return after buff mystic regeneration. now stop posting about nerf SF...Anet should Nerf you instead. i'm sick of it. try something else more creative! |
i'm not asking to nerf [shadow form] itself
just the place where they farm the most
DarkGanni
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man another one who doesn't read
i'm not asking to nerf [shadow form] itself just the place where they farm the most |
Sorry you /phail
Besides, 9 mindblades with signet of humility is capable of shutting down a whole group, they are already a caster's bane with their hexes and sig of humility is all they need to have to make them overpowered, and lets not forget these in HM
Ate of DK
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Besides, 9 mindblades with signet of humility is capable of shutting down a whole group, they are already a caster's bane with their hexes and sig of humility is all they need to have to make them overpowered, and lets not forget these in HM
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This also raises the question? Does Ursan Blessing get shut-down as soon as an enemy casts humility on them?
Radeus
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As stated above, this is just another not-so-indirect way to nerf the current SF farming craze. The only thing different in this thread, is that in the OP's streak of jealousy/outrage he hasn't thought about what his so-called 'suggestions' will do to other players.
Fiddling with the mobs in the fashion you suggest is just going to kill other groups whether balanced or not from completing UW.
I think it was mentioned before. All the PVE related buffs are there to make it easier for people to achieve the monuments in their halls.
Ursan is a great example of this. Prior to Ursan-way and EOTN, how many people would have cleared FoW or UW? How many have 'Eternal Conqueror of the Fissure of Woe' or 'Eternal Conqueror of the Underworld' monuments now, post-Ursan way and have experienced the completion of these areas?
'For the economy' the OP says. People's FoW armours will devalue, the OP says. What fail. Will anybody care that your FoW armour devalued in GW1 after you stuck it in your Halls and we all move on to GW2? I don't think so.
As stated above, this is just another not-so-indirect way to nerf the current SF farming craze. The only thing different in this thread, is that in the OP's streak of jealousy/outrage he hasn't thought about what his so-called 'suggestions' will do to other players.
Fiddling with the mobs in the fashion you suggest is just going to kill other groups whether balanced or not from completing UW.
I think it was mentioned before. All the PVE related buffs are there to make it easier for people to achieve the monuments in their halls.
Ursan is a great example of this. Prior to Ursan-way and EOTN, how many people would have cleared FoW or UW? How many have 'Eternal Conqueror of the Fissure of Woe' or 'Eternal Conqueror of the Underworld' monuments now, post-Ursan way and have experienced the completion of these areas?
'For the economy' the OP says. People's FoW armours will devalue, the OP says. What fail. Will anybody care that your FoW armour devalued in GW1 after you stuck it in your Halls and we all move on to GW2? I don't think so.
Targren
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Hi,
First of all i would like no negative criticism on this proposal |
Another 'omg t3h economy diez!!!!" QQ.
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Originally Posted by ate
This also raises the question? Does Ursan Blessing get shut-down as soon as an enemy casts humility on them?
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Yawgmoth
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Besides, 9 mindblades with signet of humility is capable of shutting down a whole group, they are already a caster's bane with their hexes and sig of humility is all they need to have to make them overpowered, and lets not forget these in HM
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Or a light but more fun version of this update - have the occassional (5% chance to spawn) different skillbar Mindblade also look differently so it can be avoided if - the farming run would require *skill* to do! Not every group could be aggroed then, sometimes you would need to run away, and the whole runs would yield less ectos. Not paying attention would mean fail. It would be a fun and still very well rewarding gameplay, still the most efficient solofarm in game.
But still, the main problem is the imba skill which can be used to farm just anything that can be farmed in this game... just nerf the damn SF and other overpowered stupidity.
RavagerOfDreams
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Besides, 9 mindblades with signet of humility is capable of shutting down a whole group, they are already a caster's bane with their hexes and sig of humility is all they need to have to make them overpowered, and lets not forget these in HM
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N1ghtstalker
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Yes but people aren't that dumb, and it clearly shows this is just another idea to nerf SF or any UW farming build.
Sorry you /phail Besides, 9 mindblades with signet of humility is capable of shutting down a whole group, they are already a caster's bane with their hexes and sig of humility is all they need to have to make them overpowered, and lets not forget these in HM |
but all that goes in UW are ursan PUG's
and while in ursan there's no elite to disable
Golgotha
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maybe
but all that goes in UW are ursan PUG's and while in ursan there's no elite to disable |
Bowstring Badass
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Originally Posted by RavagerOfDreams
because god forbid the UW actually be hard right?
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BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
maybe
but all that goes in UW are ursan PUG's and while in ursan there's no elite to disable |
RavagerOfDreams
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Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass
I remember people would cry because you pulled 2 groups. These days if you dont pull 3 groups your a noob.
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Master Necromanz
Why nerf it, take profit of this and go to the UW to farm instead of talking be smart... but people who are jealousy because they dont have it... i hate that... cmon farm ur ectos
N1ghtstalker
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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
This is pathetic, please stop.
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RavagerOfDreams
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Originally Posted by Master Necromanz
Why nerf it, take profit of this and go to the UW to farm instead of talking be smart... but people who are jealousy because they dont have it... i hate that... cmon farm ur ectos
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BlackSephir
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seeing your char is an assa i already know why you're so annoying >_>
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Oh, and for the record- I don't farm ectos. I don't see the point. Better luck next time with your retarded thread.
komma
this thread = FAIL on epic scale
MisterT69
This is really annoying, it's just another QQ thread. First we had all the ursan QQing, now we have a new topic, perma SF. Apparently just because a skill is imba or allows the average GW player to become rich makes all the "rich" players go WTF QQ, Y DA HELLZ DUZ DA N00B HAZ FoW ARMOR!!! Farming is pretty much defined as doing a repetitive task for profit, as seen in this SF craze.
Besides, you're not A-net, you don't work for them, you don't know them, and you sure as hell aren't aware of their intentions. It's their game, they can do w/e they want. Hell, they can give SF a 120 sec duration with 10 sec recharge, why? Because it's their game, they make the rules. For the hell of it, they can guarantee a 100% chance of ecto dropping from each mindblade, just to piss off the QQ'ers. So it's not out job to judge them. Because you know they can make some more insane buffs if they wanted. Yes, I'm looking at you [seed of life] and [there's nothing to fear]
Besides, you're not A-net, you don't work for them, you don't know them, and you sure as hell aren't aware of their intentions. It's their game, they can do w/e they want. Hell, they can give SF a 120 sec duration with 10 sec recharge, why? Because it's their game, they make the rules. For the hell of it, they can guarantee a 100% chance of ecto dropping from each mindblade, just to piss off the QQ'ers. So it's not out job to judge them. Because you know they can make some more insane buffs if they wanted. Yes, I'm looking at you [seed of life] and [there's nothing to fear]
Hailey Anne
No more QQ threads on SF please.
SF farming is NOT whats going to drop the ecto prices more.
Its the people who panic "omg so many SF farmers are going to destroy economy must sell ecto now" people who sell to merchent that will do it.
So stop bitching about SF already.
SF farming is NOT whats going to drop the ecto prices more.
Its the people who panic "omg so many SF farmers are going to destroy economy must sell ecto now" people who sell to merchent that will do it.
So stop bitching about SF already.
tmakinen
Ok, cool down 
My prediction is that ANet will do something to the Chaos Planes farming run. On one hand they are supportive of farming, as has been stated several times, and current PvE buffs (SF, Mystic Regen) confirm this. On the other hand they are wary of too good farming spots. The Loot Scaling mechanism in particular was tuned to keep the hourly income rate at a certain level which seems to be somewhere in the range of 10-20k per hour. The Chaos Planes run is currently a strong anomaly and if nothing is done, its yield will eventually decrease to a comparable level with other runs purely through the natural devaluation of ecto (this would indicate a stable ecto price at around 1-2k) This change is not instantaneous because there's a huge buffer of ecto in the economy already but the issue will eventually solve itself, one way or another, and our opinions have little effect in the matter.
Also, I am still of the opinion that adding a couple of patrolling Charged Blackness mobs to Twin Serpent Mountains would deter most solo farmers without causing any unexpected side effects to normal teams.
My prediction is that ANet will do something to the Chaos Planes farming run. On one hand they are supportive of farming, as has been stated several times, and current PvE buffs (SF, Mystic Regen) confirm this. On the other hand they are wary of too good farming spots. The Loot Scaling mechanism in particular was tuned to keep the hourly income rate at a certain level which seems to be somewhere in the range of 10-20k per hour. The Chaos Planes run is currently a strong anomaly and if nothing is done, its yield will eventually decrease to a comparable level with other runs purely through the natural devaluation of ecto (this would indicate a stable ecto price at around 1-2k) This change is not instantaneous because there's a huge buffer of ecto in the economy already but the issue will eventually solve itself, one way or another, and our opinions have little effect in the matter.
Also, I am still of the opinion that adding a couple of patrolling Charged Blackness mobs to Twin Serpent Mountains would deter most solo farmers without causing any unexpected side effects to normal teams.
N1ghtstalker
ecto went down to 4.5k
now people are gonna say: no it's not the permasin they have nothing to do it with
but they do farm the chaos planes alot and bring alot of profit
half the people running around in ToA are A/E
now people are gonna say: no it's not the permasin they have nothing to do it with
but they do farm the chaos planes alot and bring alot of profit
half the people running around in ToA are A/E
Kanyatta
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half the people running around in ToA are A/E
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Winterclaw
I disagree with nerfing this farm. If too many people do it, the prices of ecto will eventually go down enough that people will stop farming it in favor of something more profitable. At that point the prices will begin to stablize.
Dograzor
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Have given my reasons in other treads, its not farming mindblade spectres or the SF buff that causes the drop in ecto... And if for some reason ecto is dropping, let it be time that its replaced by a new form of currency... Z-keys maybe?
Have given my reasons in other treads, its not farming mindblade spectres or the SF buff that causes the drop in ecto... And if for some reason ecto is dropping, let it be time that its replaced by a new form of currency... Z-keys maybe?
Hailey Anne
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ecto went down to 4.5k
now people are gonna say: no it's not the permasin they have nothing to do it with but they do farm the chaos planes alot and bring alot of profit half the people running around in ToA are A/E |
how many times do people have to say this People have been farming Chaos PLains for a LONG time. Long before the buff to SF.
Theres videos of other classes solo farming CP.
Before the buff Perma SF was possible.
Not only that but I will say this AGAIN.
It is NOT the farming that causes the prices to drop.
It is the people who sell to the trader that makes the prices drop.
If people would just stop doing that then there is no problem.
Ive been farming in FoW/UW on my sin LONG before the SF buff.
Get over it seriously.
Monkey Slayer
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[Signet of Humility] seems like the better choice for normal team play so that people don't get raped by the vast numbers. [Blackout] would just destroy normal teams....
...wait, that means that Ursan skills would get blacked out. In that case, also give them [Echo] with it. /signed |
kratimas
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Hi,
First of all i would like no negative criticism on this proposal of all the Perma sin farmers here, i have been doing it myself but this madness has to stop before the economy takes another enormous hit |
I would love to see ecto's hit 1k and see all you little girls QQ,QQ,QQ and then QQ even more.
What a bunch a losers.
ITS A GAME, GET OVER IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kerpall
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OK, so what you are saying is "I got mine so FU.. the rest of you." What a hypocritical little bitch you are.
I would love to see ecto's hit 1k and see all you little girls QQ,QQ,QQ and then QQ even more. What a bunch a losers. ITS A GAME, GET OVER IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Anyways, ecto is getting to be too much of a problem, i have converted the last of my ecto into Zkeys recently, and "high end worthy" goodies. I would suggest the same to others, unless you want the armor, i now see no other reason for having ecto.
Infectious
So the rich people are starting to cry because the poorer people can now get ectos easily?
The in-game eco of GW's broke a looonnnnggg time ago so you can't use this as an excuse. I also read somewhere that somone seems to think the value of everything is dropping because of this. They are wrong, just because the price of ecto are dropping doesn't mean everything else is, they used the analagy that if something was worth 100e before, its still worth 100e now, which is bullshit. Prices have always fluctated, they always will, ectos will always be priced at what people are willing to pay for them no matter what, this is the beauty of the traders. These are used to keep the eco in check in a round about way.
Long story short...stop QQ'ing
I don't give a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO either way.
The in-game eco of GW's broke a looonnnnggg time ago so you can't use this as an excuse. I also read somewhere that somone seems to think the value of everything is dropping because of this. They are wrong, just because the price of ecto are dropping doesn't mean everything else is, they used the analagy that if something was worth 100e before, its still worth 100e now, which is bullshit. Prices have always fluctated, they always will, ectos will always be priced at what people are willing to pay for them no matter what, this is the beauty of the traders. These are used to keep the eco in check in a round about way.
Long story short...stop QQ'ing
I don't give a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO either way.
kerpall
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So the rich people are starting to cry because the poorer people can now get ectos easily?
I also read somewhere that somone seems to think the value of everything is dropping because of this. They are wrong, just because the price of ecto are dropping doesn't mean everything else is, they used the analagy that if something was worth 100e before, its still worth 100e now, which is bullshit. I don't give a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO either way. |
Wow, i got through a whole sentence without swearing like a big boy should
. Why don't you quit trying to be so hard-core, it's just a forum . I bet you'd just get your mouth filled with soap if you talked like that in Real Life ( i bet you already have xD ).
Thizzle
You're complaining about a skill.
/notsigned.
/notsigned.
fenix
Here's an easy way to fix;
Glyph of Swiftness moved to Estorage, and made 0...1...3 (or whatever it goes up to).
Sins can't use it then, bye bye A/E. As for A/Me, reduce SF duration so that it has 1-2 seconds down time even with Arcane Echo.
Glyph of Swiftness moved to Estorage, and made 0...1...3 (or whatever it goes up to).
Sins can't use it then, bye bye A/E. As for A/Me, reduce SF duration so that it has 1-2 seconds down time even with Arcane Echo.
kerpall
what about an a/rt with Ghostly Haste? Too much effort to nerf all the HSR skills :/. Better off to add a new skill, or new mob. Reducing drop rates on ecto would screw up party's, as they'd suffer too. Maybe altering drop rates for 1-man parties?
Abedeus
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Here's an easy way to fix;
Glyph of Swiftness moved to Estorage, and made 0...1...3 (or whatever it goes up to). Sins can't use it then, bye bye A/E. As for A/Me, reduce SF duration so that it has 1-2 seconds down time even with Arcane Echo. |
Although then most of the assassin would be useless...
Nerf Ursan, then nerf the rest.
Hailey Anne
Or dont nerf anything because its not the builds that are the issue.
Its the fact that people dont want others to have what they have(stack of ectos)
They are so scared that it will make the value of them less.
BUT its NOT the farming thats reducing the prices its the farmers that sell them to trader that is affecting the price.
Its the fact that people dont want others to have what they have(stack of ectos)
They are so scared that it will make the value of them less.
BUT its NOT the farming thats reducing the prices its the farmers that sell them to trader that is affecting the price.
Mindblade Spectre
Well, I don't usually post on forums, being an in-game character and all, but I figured now was the time to voice my thoughts on this issue.
I like my skillbar. Why should I have to change the way I play the game to accommodate people who are either too lazy or too full of themselves to let everyone else play the game they want? I've had a perfectly formulated skillbar that suits my exact playstyle for the last 3 years and I see no reason to change it now, especially since any "damage" to the economy already done.
On another note, if it wasn't for these shadow form sins coming down to visit me all the time, I'd get pretty lonely! All I used to see before they fixed Shadow Form was Ursans and Terra tanks, and to be honest, those just aren't the kind of people we Mesmers prefer to hang out with. I see eye-to-eye with my new Assassin friends, and I value their continued friendship. Not to mention there was about 3 times the number of FoW groups as there was UW groups. It's time we get some loving too, ya know?
In all your cries of "Nerf Nerf Nerf!", you need to think beyond yourselves and do what's best for everyone.
I'm a Mindblade Spectre, and I'm Pro-Shadow Form.
I like my skillbar. Why should I have to change the way I play the game to accommodate people who are either too lazy or too full of themselves to let everyone else play the game they want? I've had a perfectly formulated skillbar that suits my exact playstyle for the last 3 years and I see no reason to change it now, especially since any "damage" to the economy already done.
On another note, if it wasn't for these shadow form sins coming down to visit me all the time, I'd get pretty lonely! All I used to see before they fixed Shadow Form was Ursans and Terra tanks, and to be honest, those just aren't the kind of people we Mesmers prefer to hang out with. I see eye-to-eye with my new Assassin friends, and I value their continued friendship. Not to mention there was about 3 times the number of FoW groups as there was UW groups. It's time we get some loving too, ya know?
In all your cries of "Nerf Nerf Nerf!", you need to think beyond yourselves and do what's best for everyone.
I'm a Mindblade Spectre, and I'm Pro-Shadow Form.
Lazul
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Well, I don't usually post on forums, being an in-game character and all, but I figured now was the time to voice my thoughts on this issue.
I like my skillbar. Why should I have to change the way I play the game to accommodate people who are either too lazy or too full of themselves to let everyone else play the game they want? I've had a perfectly formulated skillbar that suits my exact playstyle for the last 3 years and I see no reason to change it now, especially since any "damage" to the economy already done. On another note, if it wasn't for these shadow form sins coming down to visit me all the time, I'd get pretty lonely! All I used to see before they fixed Shadow Form was Ursans and Terra tanks, and to be honest, those just aren't the kind of people we Mesmers prefer to hang out with. I see eye-to-eye with my new Assassin friends, and I value their continued friendship. Not to mention there was about 3 times the number of FoW groups as there was UW groups. It's time we get some loving too, ya know? In all your cries of "Nerf Nerf Nerf!", you need to think beyond yourselves and do what's best for everyone. I'm a Mindblade Spectre, and I'm Pro-Shadow Form. |
lol... Kudos to you, my friend, for the reminder that it's just a game. The purpose of a game is to have fun and enjoy friends, soloing, whatever it may be. It's too common nowadays for people to be selfish and not think about how what we say/do affects someone else. You picked a very fun, lighthearted way to say that.