Will you be purchasing Guild Wars 2?

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Originally Posted by Alleji
With Starcraft 2 out, I see no reason to buy GW2.

I have faith in Blizzard - they have yet to turn out a crappy game (ok, WC3 wasn't all that great, but far from crappy).
Blizz are doing the same thing as Anet, making the game alot eaiser
in past and the next patch changes like this have happened:

Leveling from 20-60 requires less experiance and an increase in quest rewards are given

Lowering the mount lv. required from 40 to 30

And introduced Around 18 daily quests that maybe take around 1 to 2 hours to complete giving around 200g a day, which really is alot.

They are also making the newest 5 man dungeon easier (after it was released 2 or 3 months ago, was on a break then)

I liked war3 but more for the mods then the game, and i know i just mentioned WoW but thats the main one i have exp. with


On topic:
Yeah proberly will buy it, will i play it much? depends on how good it is.

Avarre

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Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
WoW stuff
They've also announced a game which is being designed specifically for competitive multiplayer, in a franchise that has been one of the most successful competitive games (and e-sports) ever. I don't know how much of what I've seen from the Q&As and released info I like, but judging details at this point is silly.

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Originally Posted by Thizzle
I couldn't find the poll option so I went with the next best thing. Reply with a yes or no and maybe a reason why or why not. I personally will be purchasing it right away because Guild Wars was probably the most addicting game I ever played even when Arena Net nerfed all the things they did. I look back on it the game before I was banned and remember all the good times I had just finishing the game.

Avarre : Added a poll.
Lol you got banned from GW and now you are banned from this forum? lol That's two two two kicks in one hahah.

But, anyways as far as buying GW2 yeah I'm pretty sure I will buy it since it's going to be more like WOW and less like skill>time which got boring pretty fast. I like continous neverending goals in my online games and even the offline ones like "Daggerfall" and "Oblivion" are great...only bad one was Morrowboring out of the series, the combat was too simple and wasn't fun to use.

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Originally Posted by Avarre
There are quite a few other games coming out. Not everyone is addicted to the Guild Wars franchise and can't bear to play anything else.
those that moan about the game are more addicted than those that enjoy the game, that is the sad truth.

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Originally Posted by roshanabey2
those that moan about the game are more addicted than those that enjoy the game, that is the sad truth.
People who complain about games complain because they like the game, and something changed/there's something that they don't like. Complaining has nothing to do with addiction.

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Yes of course I will. I have had to much fun with GW not to purchase the sequel. All the Elite people who do nothing but complain on the forums all day about how ANET sucks and does not care is in no way going to influence my decision to buy GW2. I'm going to Pre-order as soon as it is available. An Open Beta would be sweet and ill be there if that ever happens.

Gli

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Maybe, with a strong likelyhood of turning into no, based upon what little info is out there right now. I need more concrete info, and it needs to be compelling. Very compelling.

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Originally Posted by Stockholm
That is one more reson to buy GW2 .
I wouldn't say that if some customers weren't happy then why would they.

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If it's a good game, I'll get it. If not, then I won't. Simple as that.

Stockholm

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Originally Posted by Age
I wouldn't say that if some customers weren't happy then why would they.
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That is only those on The Guru though out of how many are registered compared to how many who have voted.I would say the majority have moved on and possibly gave up on this game.


If the majority of whiners here on Guru have quit and moved on that in it self will be an improvement, making GW2 worth buying.

Get it now?

eagleblade

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i wont even consider it if there is a subscription fee

if they start that they have truly destroyed gw


now if there is No Subscription Fee you can count me in!

samifly

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There is no subscription fee... that's one of the few things we do know.

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If GW2 has assassins and paragons, the world PvP doesn't get labeled as mass-ganking and the the "8 skills each, 8 party members, instanced" doesn't get overhauled too bad then I'm sure I'll buy it the moment it gets released (meh, even pre-order it)

If it doesn't I'll wait a week, check the GWII guru forums then decide if it is worth it or not.

Sleeper Service

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm

If the majority of whiners here on Guru have quit and moved on that in it self will be an improvement, making GW2 worth buying.

Get it now?
win win situation for real.

shoogi

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Join Date: Jun 2007

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Assuming that Gw2 will be a dedicated pve game, or in other words: A copy of WoW for people that can't afford it, I won't buy Gw2.
I hope for you guys that Anet will learn from their poor management of Gw1 and Gw2 will be as great as gw1 was.

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I voted maybe, but at the moment I'm leaning towards no.
I will play the beta weekends (if it has any) and make my final decision based on what I see there.

Considering how much GW has changed since release, my faith in ANet is not strong.

Avarre

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm

If the majority of whiners here on Guru have quit and moved on that in it self will be an improvement, making GW2 worth buying.

Get it now?
Oh man, if you think the Guild Wars community is bad you're going to have a great time when the game because more mainstream.

Akaraxle

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
Blizz are doing the same thing as Anet, making the game alot eaiser
in past and the next patch changes like this have happened:

Leveling from 20-60 requires less experiance and an increase in quest rewards are given

Lowering the mount lv. required from 40 to 30

And introduced Around 18 daily quests that maybe take around 1 to 2 hours to complete giving around 200g a day, which really is alot.

They are also making the newest 5 man dungeon easier (after it was released 2 or 3 months ago, was on a break then)

I liked war3 but more for the mods then the game, and i know i just mentioned WoW but thats the main one i have exp. with
What you say is true, only... it's something completely different from what ANet did.
With these changes, Blizzard is making the game faster for people starting now to get on par with the veterans. Heck, I started with patch 2.3 and I loved the exp boost -- it allowed me to play very casually while still feeling a sense of progression. They're slightly adjusting the game to the income of new players, while still keeping the veterans busy with more grind.
On the other hand, ANet made the game dumber. Compared to Prophecies days, the endgame is actually plays "slower" and the game feels more bland; the result is that veterans feel bored and screwed over, and newbies get bored quickly and don't get the chance to experience the same fun we did.

One of the things I didn't like about WoW 2.3 is how they removed most of the unnamed elites in the game world: it was done to aid solo play, but I think it removed some of the challenge and chances to group together (although this gets normally harder at lower levels as the game gets older). That aside, IMHO what Blizzard and ANet did were probably both for similar purposes, but applying two entirely different approaches.

Stockholm

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Originally Posted by Avarre
Oh man, if you think the Guild Wars community is bad you're going to have a great time when the game because more mainstream.
Never said I thought the Guild Wars community was bad, Only some of the GW Guru community , Big diffrence, even if you (the GW Guru community) think you represent the Guild Wars community, (NEWS FLASH) you don't.

BlackSephir

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Originally Posted by Stockholm
Never said I thought the Guild Wars community was bad, Only some of the GW Guru community , Big diffrence, even if you (the GW Guru community) think you represent the Guild Wars community, (NEWS FLASH) you don't.
Gosh, too bad GWG is a part of guild wars community.

Ate of DK

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I don't know yet.

I first want to know what GW2 has to offer. I wanna see screenshots, video's and read about it before I buy a game that changes many things in a way that makes people leave.

Most important, I must have that undescribable GW-feeling when I see/play it! If I don't get such a feeling then it's /fail and I buy a Playstation 3 + Final Fantasy XIII.

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
Gosh, too bad GWG is a part of guild wars community.
Not as big as you think. Don't forget that once your registered on Guru you can't delete your account, so the members count is very misleading.

BlackSephir

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Originally Posted by Stockholm
Not as big as you think. Don't forget that once your registered on Guru you can't delete your account, so the members count is very misleading.
I know 2 "big" GW forums. One is GWG, the other one is GWOnline. These are also forums where the GW devs have their account and sometimes "talk". Any more? What other forums might represent GW community?
People who don't voice their opinion don't have the right to whine if something changes.

Rocky Raccoon

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
I know 2 "big" GW forums. One is GWG, the other one is GWOnline. These are also forums where the GW devs have their account and sometimes "talk". Any more? What other forums might represent GW community?
People who don't voice their opinion don't have the right to whine if something changes.
They are also the same people whom play the game and don't complain. Are they right or wrong, who are we to say?

Stockholm

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
I know 2 "big" GW forums. One is GWG, the other one is GWOnline. These are also forums where the GW devs have their account and sometimes "talk". Any more? What other forums might represent GW community?
People who don't voice their opinion don't have the right to whine if something changes.
As far as I'm concerned any one who PLAYS GW is part of the GW community, whether they chose to join a fan site or not.

That is my biggest grip with people here on Guru, a small % of the player base trying to act as self appointed representativs of all players.

When those people move on to other games GW will be much better off.

BlackSephir

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Originally Posted by Risky Ranger
They are also the same people whom play the game and don't complain. Are they right or wrong, who are we to say?
If they don't voice their opinion in any way, how can the be right or wrong?

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As far as I'm concerned any one who PLAYS GW is part of the GW community, whether they chose to join a fan site or not.
But not everyone who plays GW is a member of vocal gw community, so AN can't know what they're thinking. You don't know opinions of someone who doesn't talk.

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That is my biggest grip with people here on Guru, a small % of the player base trying to act as self appointed representativs of all players.
How do you know GWG is a small % of the vocal community? First you'd have to know how big is GW vocal community.

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When those people move on to other games GW will be much better off
Yeah, it's not like the community had some good ideas (how to improve the game, fix skills etc) and AN totally ditched them, right?

Stockholm

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
How do you know GWG is a small % of the community? First you'd have to know how big is GW vocal community.
5 million copies sold, registerd GWG members around 100. 000 ACTIVE GWG members what? 5000 or perhaps 10.000, thats a small % of the PLAYER BASE anyway you look at it.


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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
Yeah, it's not like the community had some good ideas (how to improve the game, fix skills etc) and AN totally ditched them, right?
And what says that AN would not have done better without the community input? One mans good ideas is another mans idea of crap.

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depends:

if diablo 3 is out i might try that (though THAT depends if it is pay to play though)

on reviews

how hacked off at GW I am when I see GW2 in the shop

what classess

how cookie cutter it is

and if I can find an explination as to how all the things that are bad in GW are fixed

BlackSephir

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Originally Posted by Stockholm
5 million copies sold, registerd GWG members around 100. 000 ACTIVE GWG members what? 5000 or perhaps 10.000, thats a small % of the PLAYER BASE anyway you look at it.
I SAID VOCAL COMMUNITY, VOCAL PEOPLE TALK. PEOPLE WHO ARE SILENT DON'T TALK.
If the rest is too lazy to voice their opinion then it shouldn't matter since no matter what path AN takes, it will please them. And if not, it's their own fault for not voicing their opinions.

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And what says that AN would not have done better without the community input?
AN's history.

Stockholm

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
I SAID VOCAL COMMUNITY, VOCAL PEOPLE TALK. PEOPLE WHO ARE SILENT DON'T TALK.
If the rest is too lazy to voice their opinion then it shouldn't matter since no matter what path AN takes, it will please them. And if not, it's their own fault for not voicing their opinions.
Then why do you think You or anyone else needs to speak for them? BTW, you anwserd to MY post and I never specified vocal community.

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
AN's history.
And that is the same as GW, so we don't know what would have been if they had not listend to the SMALL minority of players that hang out on forums, Do we?

Nevin

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I'll play beta, then I'll decide if I want to buy it or not.

Clarissa F

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@Stockholm: You argue that all the games sold and active members mean it's a good game? Hellgate:London hit record sales on its release in Korea, and I don't think anyone would argue that is a worthy successor to Diablo 2.

As far as listening to the forums, it isn't from blind faith that the opinions given on the forums are God. How else would you suggest they get opinions of people playing the game: on General Chat? A read of LA AD1 shows the huge fail of that idea. A "forum" is where people meet to discuss public business, or in the case of GW, Guild Wars business. As mentioned before, the devs come on with their own accounts to guru and GWO to test the waters. You will see a lot of correlation, if you read them, between certain buffs and nerfs and opinions voiced on the forums. It's arguable that the skill split and PvE skills were from opinions voiced about the affects of PvP adjustments on PvE. The devs don't have time enough to play this game long enough to see how well things work over time. Forums give them a window into the game, without affecting time spent doing their job: keeping the game working.

The "vocal minority" are also the ones who are the best word of mouth to advance a game. If a sizable group of that minority has a negative view, or if you don't listen to that group, they will have a low opinion of the next thing you produce. When you go into something with a negative view, that affects what you see. People are just voicing that they feel the direction a part of the game, PvE, has taken has changed the structure of the game from what got them interested in the game. The whole part of the PvE side, before, was to build a character up with skills and training, going through a paced storyline, to a level which they would be ready to start in PvP. You can't say PvE challenges you that way, now.

That being said, yeah, we voice our disappointments on how the game has gone, and post in this thread our disagreements, but we all know, if we're honest, that Anet has created their niche out of a simple formula:free to play. They don't need to create a game better than any out there. If it's decent, the animation is good, and it looks pretty, they will SELL GAMES. In large numbers. We're lucky they have enough of a conscience to have CR that post regular on the forums and listen(whatever your opinion of the later). The new game will be free to play, probably start out all in Tyria, and expand, like Wow did with Burning Crusade/Lich King, into Elona and Cantha. It will look great and be good enough to justify dumping 50 bucks a pop.

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Originally Posted by Clarissa F
@Stockholm: You argue that all the games sold and active members mean it's a good game? Hellgate:London hit record sales on its release in Korea, and I don't think anyone would argue that is a worthy successor to Diablo 2.
Just terrible. Just terrible. Never compare that crapfest Hellgate with the gem that is Diablo. The asian market loves to grind mindlessly no matter how bad other parts of the game are. You should of read the article released by the one of the Devs on Hellgate on how bad it really is.

Yichi

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Will I buy it: Possibly. It will depend on a number of things, more so depending on real life things that my wife and I are planning will depend on if I decide to invest the time into GW2 or if I even buy it.

So my choice was I'm enjoying sitting on the fence.

Nomme Moon

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When ArenaNet convinces me that the game actually exists, I'll consider it. Until then, it's a myth to me.

Akaraxle

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Hey, if it turns out to be bad we can always ask the "Will It Blend?" dude to deal with it for us.

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i will be. i still enjoy the game, and all the friends i made within it and guided to it will be joining GW2, so it's only natural for me to progress onto it.

as disappointed as i have been about some of the things anet have done to the game, overall, i still enjoy it and am looking forward to seeing what they do with GW2... though some press release, general info, even some screenshots would be fantastic...

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How much content will be in GW2? Will it be WoW big or Prophecies big? Will it look like Guild Wars, WoW, or AoC? The more I think about it. The scarier it becomes.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm
5 million copies sold, registerd GWG members around 100. 000 ACTIVE GWG members what? 5000 or perhaps 10.000, thats a small % of the PLAYER BASE anyway you look at it.

What made me lawl at that post is that you made the point of saying only 5,000 people are still active on here - while of the supposed "5 million copies" how many of those are:
1. Secondary accounts
2. Still active

I know people that have 4-5 accounts. Also 75% of the people I know that played GW no longer play. Only a few are left.


Anyway - I am going to wait and see how it looks before buying.

Ctb

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I make all my buying decisions long before the products I'm discussing actually come out! Yay! I'm a fool!

If it were coming out soon, probably not, just because I'm kind of fed up with MMOs in general. Just quit WoW for the third time because it's just a damn boring game for anything more than a month. And, really, there isn't anything else out now that looks interesting. Eve is neat, but CCP is crooked. LOTRO is cool, but the spam and RMT problem is just insane. EQII is dead in the water. AoC is the same old crap with a little gimmick on top.

Meh. We'll see what Warhammer offers, I guess...