Rollerbeetle Racing Guide : Namkey + Yuri

I wanna start with Namkeys Guide because thats still the basic to get times like 478. But ull need a lot of small changes to get times about 483.

Hints: - Start: In fact u cannot control the superstart (55% speed from beginning) but there're a few possibilities to increase the chance of getting it. (try and observe new stuff)
- Dash is a much more powerful tool, when you use it after your beetle gains his maximum speed by himself with no speed boosts.
- Checkpoint 1: The fastest way is the right one.
- Checkpoint 2: U can take the s-curve as tight as possible. Lagg wont throw u back there.
- Dont take both boxes in the water, they steal too much time. One box should be enough. Race close to the corner.
- Checkpoint 3; cowcave: Chance to get SRB from the left box is nearly 0% (Im not the only one who noticed that)
- Checkpoint 4: If u got SRB u always can go through the water. Same again... Dont take boxes in the water! They steal more time than u probably think. (U can take as much boxes as u want if u dont got the echo+srb combo)
- Checkpoint 5: U shouldnt take the spiral bride tightely - just stay in middle for no laggs. Dont hit boxes any longer.
- checkpoint 6-7; Gate7: Ram + dash + ram doesnt work that well there. Try some new stuff. Stay left at the top of the hill to minimize lagg.
- Ram: Ram works the best for short distances because it causes big speed decreases. It shouldnt be used for long distances (max. 2 seconds)

- I NEVER use ram to KD other people.
- All bugs were fixed. Concentrate on ur own. Cry less and practise more.
- It doesnt matter how many enemies u beat 1 000 099 or 1 000 030. But it would be nice if Anet let the Top100 available only once per acc/name.

Good Luck to everybody and Have Fun. Give ur best. Wanna have some competition

Yuri

Edit:

Gogo top 100 meeeee! ;D

ty very much

Or you could just play the bloody thing for fun instead of being a whiner about losing or a knob about winning.... but I guess that's not an option.

I'll never understand why MMO players insist on trying to reduce a video game to a set of manipulatable rules. It just seems like your time researching things like this could be spent on so many other useful things.

But, whatever. To each their own, I suppose.

I can understand where you come from but at the end of the day knowledge is power. If you understand how mechanics work then you can manipulate them to your will

Anywhom, I will be trying for top 100 this year during my attempts to get R1 Gamer (I seriously don't know why after 1 and a half years I only have 500~ points) and this has helped alot, thanks!

Thanks for reposting - now I won't have to pretype "google namkey rollerbeetle map, third page of old guru thread" every time

Some additional notes:

1) Connection and FPS are essential, connection more than FPS. I find that a ping north of about 250 leads to one of two undesirable outcomes - either I lag out on another beetle at the start or I rubberband the beach. Your threshold for where it becomes impossible to post a time may vary.

FPS in the 10-15 range just won't get it done - you just can't take corners tightly. However, I've managed 481k on a machine in the low 20s. Not my regular machine - that one has an old Radeon 9600, something along the lines of an Athlon 1800 and 768k of RAM, to give you an idea of 'minimum' specs.

2) Contact with other beetles is BAD. Because of the slight delay to and from server for everyone, other beetles are little lag monsters that will desynch you if you touch them. Assume that every beetle is about two beetle-lengths ahead of where they appear to be on the screen and react accordingly, and take pains to ensure that they do not come into contact with you if at all possible.

You can use this to your advantage, however. If you get saddled with a KD powerup at the first box (Spit/Blast), you often can stack up several beetles in the chokepoint on the way to the right box. This will almost always ensure that you never see anyone again; it's like a ten second penalty for the beetles involved. Easy way to get a win if you start cleanly.

3) Zoom all the way in. You take corners more smoothly that way. I generally take the first seven seconds or so zoomed out, then zoom in once I'm clear of traffic and stay that way for the duration.

4) Dash at the start really is bad. It LOOKS like a good idea when you hit the first checkpoint at :17, but it ends up costing you momentum to the second checkpoint, leading to a net loss of time. However, if you get the high momentum start, the Dash start is preferable.

Interesting observation on the left cow box. I rarely hit that one; if you are at combo speed, you have to lift off the accelerator for a brief moment to hit it, and I've never cared for that.

We're competitive people facing a function that meets the criteria for the existence of a maximum. Anything that can be optimized should be optimized, and the test is whether or not you can do it better than millions of other people. If you don't want to do it "right", that's your own business, but consider:

1) The faster I win, the faster I get a new match. More gamer points = good.
2) If I do well, everyone can see that I do well. This is good for the ego.

The time investment in figuring out how a system like this works usually more than pays for itself.

Dont get me wrong. Im loving RBR thats why its easier to win.

An Additional hint for the beginning. U never know where u are, in front, behind or next to ur enemy? The Highscore never lies, take a look for 1. 2. 3. place to exactly know where u are. Keep in mind ure often much more behind than it probably looks like.

That research, followed by playing with the benefit of what you've learned, is one of my fav things about GW. It takes a lot of different folks to make a world.

Woot Roller beetles is come up again since dragon festival in july

Much Love Angel~

Can we do these yet?

You didn't really have to post your strategy. You've proven time and again you're better then the rest. With or without the bugs. I guess this way it'll put an end to all the sore losers and crybabies in the past from calling you a cheat. They suck and they are in denial. I really hope you still maintain your top100 just to prove a point to these lamers.

Yea, I'm not disagreeing with the overall premise of the process and accomplishments, just observing that the ability to recognize structure like this is a valuable skill that is kind of wasted on a video game, especially one that's going to be shut down someday no matter what you accomplish in it.

Although, really, it was just the snotty "cry less" comment in the op in combination with the lazy textspeak that set me off, not the subject itself, so much. I hate lazy children using textspeak... my precioussssss

I like RBR and prefer to play it for fun, so this doesn't really affect me one way or another.

Please uninstall the Internet

i never been good at this maybe this year i have a chance

Yuri's first language is not English. That affect your opinion any?

I assure you that my grammar would be horrid if I were typing Spanish on this board, ya know?

Thanks for the hints,
If people go back in time, things will proberly end up into a flamefest.
So try adn stay on topic><

I guess it's a good job that isn't possible then

LOL finally a chance to finish off that R3 gamer and im going on holiday on the 4th-7th

If you have more than 200 ping, then don't even try playing this game. You won't win top 100 very easily. Just my .02 cents.

The lag may end up somehow working in your favor

Considering 'cry less' has become the general term for anyone trying to be an internet toughguy, I wouldn't say it's a result of a language barrier.

I'm sry guys but I'm still young. I was mainly learning the English language from the internet.

I please u all to collect ideas and hints to get this guide even better.

Wish I could help. However the lag spikes are rediculous. At the hill again at 1.20 got to the spiral at 1.23 and got slammed by a 30k lag spike. went from first to 3rd.

And no worries on your english from me. its fine.

Thanks a lot. Had a 75th Place. A little bit luck is good to have. I had nice players. They didn't knockdown. A little SRB and I had 470.703

I actually did get an SRB there a few times, but it's pretty rare that's true. I'd say about 2-5%? I usually skip this box if I get an early echo-srb combo, to avoid any chances of lag/rollbacks there (and it saves maybe a few tenths of a second as well).

I still use ram - dash - ram there, I have tried some other things but if you time it right the old method should work just as well. I usually experience minimal speed loss there at least and it almost got me a 482k time once. So it can't be that bad I think.

The start is where it's all at imo, if you know how to get consistent good and fast starts then it's only a matter of time until you start making highscore times. I used to start with ram at gate and dash at 5-6 seconds and although it's a very consistent start with minimal risks it's definitely not the fastest. You can get an early echo-srb combo at 40 seconds this way with a possible end time of 480-481k, which is good but there are ways to get the combo at 38 seconds or even 37 if you use a different albeit more risky (= more close contact with other beetles) starting strategy. This means 483-484k times are possible, as has been solidly proven by Yuri. Sadly my own times haven't been that great yet (478k max), mainly because of bad luck with getting echo-supers and whenever I did get one I had a lousy start with KD's, or lag/rollbacks because of contact with other beetles. But the weekend has just begun so we'll see what's possible. I'm having fun anyway.

Using this guide and a huge stroke of luck (I got echo SRB from the two boxes in the water), I managed to get 466k, which is approx 5-6k under top 100. My second highest was like 440k. Anyways, I just wanted to thank you for writing this guide!

Edit:

Yeah, uh, I'll make a note the next time I rubberband from the start to the finish.

Questions:

1. The start. It seems that no matter what I do, I get rammed somewhere before the first checkpoint. If I don't toss up my shield immediately, I get rammed right out of the gate. If I do toss up my shield immediately, I get nailed just before the corner. Any tips on how to get a decent start? Or do I just have to keep trying until I get lucky with a group that doesn't ram me.

2. Which boxes are you picking up? From the image, it looks like you're grabbing (1) the right box after cp1, (2) the right box after cp2, (3) the right cow box after cp3, and (4) the right water box after cp4. Is that correct?

3. Speaking of the water after cp4, should you still take this path if you don't get the combo? I usually don't, and I seem to come out ahead of people who do take the water.

4. Assuming you get the combo, when do you use it? Immediately?

5. Is one combo enough for a top-100 time? Once (just once) I managed to get the combo quite late, but it only got me a 450ish score. Does the combo have to be early? Or do you need the combo plus an extra SRB? Or do I just suck?

6. Repeats? How many races are you doing to post one good time? I'm starting to feel like the odds of not getting rammed off the start and then getting the combo are infinitesimally small.

1. There's only one way to get clear starts. U have to use ram immediatly after beginning. But u'll lose about 2 sec of ur highscore.

Other way is to save ram, the way that Lain described already.

2. If u get the combo by the first two boxes, dont hit them any longer.

3. I prefer the water if i'm not having an echo. (need the box)

4. U need the combo right after the first two boxes. As later u'll get the combo as worse it'll work.

5. Its possible to score 483-484 with only echo+srb.

6. I get that early combo all 3 hours once.

just wondering, what is ur best time whitout srb?
mine is 456.xxx

so i have an idea how fast i am if i get the combo

go play real Mario Kart
OSHI-

Best score without anything : 464.187
Best score echo only : 471.147 (New Method )
Best score srb only : 475.203 (Pink Oo)

actualy higher than i thougth

i should be able to get in high if im luckey

Martin, nice tip with first person view. I've always used zoomed out because it's how I normally play, but 1st person looks like it's quite a bit more useful after you break away from the main group.

I'll throw up some hints, too, though all the major points have been hit already.

I set up my RRPM bar like this (the exp bar is ~25%):

It helps add a visual marker for "how much dash can add."

It seems like the super-start (55%) is most common in the green box, though I've seen my RRPM bar jump extra in others as well.

When I get E+SRB, I check the time I used the first SRB, and add 30s to know when the echo will revert. I usually save the echo until a few seconds before reversion (usually sits for 25-27 seconds, don't chance it against lag or missing the button).

It seems to me that the RRPM bar actually changes instantly (updating about once a second). The smooth transition is just a client-side effect on the bar. The upshot of this is that if you know your bar will move to (say) 60% on a certain patch, you don't have to wait until the bar actually gets to that amount to use a dash, just until the bar starts moving.

You have to spawn and clear the lag before the race starts.

Couldn't even play it in the first 2 dragon festivals because I spawned too late.

I really need to know when to use my speed boosts, i just got 2echo and 2srb(4 supers) and only got 469....

So Australians are fluffied? =[

Well the first problem is that you kept hitting boxes after getting the first E+SRB. Every box (period) that you pickup results in a longer path then if you hadn't, or an additional terrain hazard you wouldn't have gone through (mostly water). Some boxes don't add too much (top of the first hill is basically free, for example), but a good time will never be a result of more then 3 or 4 box pickups.

Another tip: You do not need more then one E+SRB. There is very little time improvement from an extra SRB in there. Once you have the combo, smart use of dash and ram can keep you going for the rest of the race.

Yuris posted Namkey's map in the first post, with dots on it for where he uses dash, ram, and both SRBs. It's a good run, and if you want some specific "use this here" type info, it's a good place to start.

On the start - I've always felt that you have two real options:

1) Ram at start, Dash at some point after Ram ends: This will get you clear, and it's your only option if you're lagging. If you just want to get on the board, do this.

2) Ram at start, Dash at bottom of first hill - this will keep your RRPM bar full all the way to the water boxes if you do everything else right. Note that I am extremely aggressive and burn my Dash from the second checkpoint on the way down to the water boxes. This kills my ability to post a decent no-SRB time.

The longer you can save the Dash, the faster you will get to the boxes, but the more exposure you have to noob Rams in bad places. Proper shield usage helps, but it's impossible to get to the bottom of the hill without being exposed to a bad Ram at some point.

Why Ram out of the gate?

1) Knock down other beetles adjacent to you, improving your chances of not getting Rammed later
2) Avoid contact with other beetles during the first five seconds - if your reaction time is good, the threats are the players that Dash out of the gate, and you know which beetles are the threats, so you know when to shield.

Now, Yuri and Lain hold Ram until very, very late. I've never had success with this, but they seem to be getting to the boxes at the same time I do with the very late Dash, so to each his own.

Best bit of advice: Get ahead early, because most racers are idiots and never target the guy in front.